Horse Racing questions and answers

[str]

Sorry folks. I took the 18 to win.
1–18 box exacta.
cashed twice but down a little going in.

GL everybody !!

[JBEX]

3 3's

[JBEX]

by army mule (2)..saturday

churchill R6 @ 1:53
pat day mile $600k

#3 california burrito (12-1)



woodbine R4 @ 2:53

#3 captain courtney (2-1)



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aqu R10 @ 5:24
fort marcy stakes

#3 deterministic (3-1)

[batt33]

Race 9 Churchill.... #9 15-1 morning line hovering around 9/2 as I type..... looking at the double and p-3 will pays you would think that it would be more in line with a lower morning line .......unless.... just watching the tote board....
oops meant to say the 7 ... ran 4th

[JBEX]

by army mule

gulfstream 5 @ 2:45
#6 militia (15-1)


churchill 4 @ 12:29
#8 grade a (12-1)




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[JBEX]

I picked a good day to bet the above horses! needed that! What a nice claim Dan ward Claimed ceepee gee for 12500 and turned around and get 78000 for the win! stalked and pounced!
Pinky Finger ran good... a little tired at the end and was glad to find the wire.
Glad to see World record come back strong!
I missed "inthearmynow race" as I was watching Churchill... okay just watched the replay..... nice easy lead .... no excuses that I could see....
Thanks JBX!

glad you were in today batt..yeah great claim by the oaklawn trainer winning with a huge step up in class ..his share almost 4x what they claimed him for

no big payoffs (expected) for WR and PF but both got it done .. think they are considering royal ascot for pinky finger and sure the bc sprint is what they're aiming for with world record ..he ran sub 1:08 going 21.1/ 43.4 (fifths) early

noticed something interesting with she's inthearmynow @ hawthorne..last 2 times she ran like she did today the next race came back to win with a drop in class..imo every level (claiming price) of race at oaklawn is tougher than fairgrounds so I consider her last win to be off a drop .. think the new connections will run at a lower level in her next start 2nd off the claim

[batt33]

by army mule (3) .. thursday

churchill 6 @ 3:27
#5 pinky finger (8-5)


oaklawn 7 @ 4:44
#6 ceepeegee (20-1)


hawthorne 5 @ 5:21
#6 she's inthearmynow (8-1)


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churchill R9 @ 5:13
#2 world record (5-2)


makes his 4yo debut






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I picked a good day to bet the above horses! needed that! What a nice claim Dan ward Claimed ceepee gee for 12500 and turned around and get 78000 for the win! stalked and pounced!
Pinky Finger ran good... a little tired at the end and was glad to find the wire.
Glad to see World record come back strong!
I missed "inthearmynow race" as I was watching Churchill... okay just watched the replay..... nice easy lead .... no excuses that I could see....
Thanks JBX!

[batt33]

Black Tie Optional at Los Al

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/BlackTieOptional_1746041657258/MP4/BlackTieOptional_1746041657258.mp4

Black Tie Optional had his first day of galloping at Los Alamitos this morning and can be spotted on the outside of MyRacehorse stablemate Misstrial. Assistant trainer Mike Marlow notes that it has taken some time for your son of Not This Time to adjust to his new surroundings but, per our previous updates, that doesn't necessarily surprise us. This is nothing of concern and nothing out of the ordinary for a young horse--especially a colt. As you will see in the video above, he galloped just fine in company.

[batt33]

I will be going to Laurel for Derby day. Time to see the old gang again. Can't wait.

Just printed out the form and have 2 days to read it.

I just looked at the 1st race so trying to get through it all. I have not looked at the Derby much at all but have read some about it.
Let's stay in touch through Saturday and find some winners.

Enjoy! I agree lets find some winners!

[Easy-Rider 66]

I will be going to Laurel for Derby day. Time to see the old gang again. Can't wait.

Just printed out the form and have 2 days to read it.

I just looked at the 1st race so trying to get through it all. I have not looked at the Derby much at all but have read some about it.
Let's stay in touch through Saturday and find some winners.

OK sounds good sir. Look forward to your take. THX

[str]

Hey STR: that time of the year. Triple Crown Season. If you look over the form for 2025 KY Derby I am interested to get your thoughts on the race. THX in advance.

I will be going to Laurel for Derby day. Time to see the old gang again. Can't wait.

Just printed out the form and have 2 days to read it.

I just looked at the 1st race so trying to get through it all. I have not looked at the Derby much at all but have read some about it.
Let's stay in touch through Saturday and find some winners.

[batt33]

yeah no big deal not playing the last 2 ..

3 army mules tomorrow (which I'm going to put up later tonight) including the 2yo who blew out a field of maidens at kee not so long ago ..she's going in a $250k stakes race as the 8-5 ml favorite

on derby day "cal burrito" in the pat day mile and "deterministic" is running at aqu ..lot's of interesting stuff aside from the derby over the next few days

Copy that thanks JBEX! Yes busy weekend for sure following the horses!

[JBEX]

by army mule (3) .. thursday

churchill 6 @ 3:27
#5 pinky finger (8-5)


oaklawn 7 @ 4:44
#6 ceepeegee (20-1)


hawthorne 5 @ 5:21
#6 she's inthearmynow (8-1)


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churchill R9 @ 5:13
#2 world record (5-2)


makes his 4yo debut






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[JBEX]

Busy day tomorrow but I do want to watch and respond. If for whatever reason, I bypass that, please remind me.
Good question for sure.

might be too much going on to watch a replay of a 21 time maiden lol

[JBEX]

Hopefully I will be able to watch it tomorrow .... missed the Army Mule today.... well and yesterday too.... good and bad.

yeah no big deal not playing the last 2 ..

3 army mules tomorrow (which I'm going to put up later tonight) including the 2yo who blew out a field of maidens at kee not so long ago ..she's going in a $250k stakes race as the 8-5 ml favorite

on derby day "cal burrito" in the pat day mile and "deterministic" is running at aqu ..lot's of interesting stuff aside from the derby over the next few days

[batt33]

thursday

churchill R9 @ 5:13
#2 world record (5-2)


makes his 4yo debut





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Hopefully I will be able to watch it tomorrow .... missed the Army Mule today.... well and yesterday too.... good and bad.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Hey STR: that time of the year. Triple Crown Season. If you look over the form for 2025 KY Derby I am interested to get your thoughts on the race. THX in advance.

[JBEX]

thursday

churchill R9 @ 5:13
#2 world record (5-2)


makes his 4yo debut





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[JBEX]

yes he is..really should handle this field but will be an underlay for sure .. good effort and they have her next condition going on 5/17 , which they might consider doing based on the timing between her last 2 starts

win

[JBEX]

Excellently spotted. Always nice to see with AM's . Often times as we know, we see trainers trying to do too much too fast.

Patience grasshopper.

yes he is..really should handle this field but will be an underlay for sure .. good effort and they have her next condition going on 5/17 , which they might consider doing based on the timing between her last 2 starts

[str]

by army mule .. weds

tdn 8 @ 4:20

#6 holidays army brat (2-1)

Excellently spotted. Always nice to see with AM's . Often times as we know, we see trainers trying to do too much too fast.

Patience grasshopper.

[JBEX]

by army mule .. weds

tdn 8 @ 4:20

#6 holidays army brat (2-1)

[JBEX]

Busy day tomorrow but I do want to watch and respond. If for whatever reason, I bypass that, please remind me.
Good question for sure.

will do str

[str]

do you think a combination of training 2 or 3 of them along with some film study of others would shed some light on that ?

today's is now 0/21 with lots of 2nd's and 3rd's ..5 years old from the original crop and we've seen her ar least a couple of times along the way .. showed a lot of life and might be an interesting replay to watch .."parxracing" replays very user friendly if you wanted to take a look

Busy day tomorrow but I do want to watch and respond. If for whatever reason, I bypass that, please remind me.
Good question for sure.

[JBEX]

it's #2 la de peluche

[JBEX]

No question I would have claimed at least A COUPLE of them.

I would need to see what makes them all tick.

Can't believe they wouldn't win. Maybe for less, but they would win.

do you think a combination of training 2 or 3 of them along with some film study of others would shed some light on that ?

today's is now 0/21 with lots of 2nd's and 3rd's ..5 years old from the original crop and we've seen her ar least a couple of times along the way .. showed a lot of life and might be an interesting replay to watch .."parxracing" replays very user friendly if you wanted to take a look

[str]

prx R2

an AM finished 3rd by < 2 lengths in a mcl $10k going 7f ..off at 9-2

No question I would have claimed at least A COUPLE of them.

I would need to see what makes them all tick.

Can't believe they wouldn't win. Maybe for less, but they would win.

[JBEX]

prx R2

an AM finished 3rd by < 2 lengths in a mcl $10k going 7f ..off at 9-2

[JBEX]

by army mule .. tuesday

churchill 9

#8 bourbon state (15-1)
@ 4:55



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[str]

Here's what I find so frustrating about racing. LP R9 OC 56K. #3 out of my stable. Down to 5 entries. Days OFF 1-378, 3-216, 4-211, 5-98, and the 6-18. Unless you have inside insight why would anyone be betting here?

Well, that is true. However, the horses in your stable are seemingly top notch bred horses from big time racing which means you won't find many of those that are asked to run at lesser levels without being given every chance to be elite. It no problem having them in there but any horse who does not run for 9 months or more, has sustained a major problem most likely with at least one mayor surgery. Those types do take 10-15 months sometimes to be ready to go.
Nothing wrong with following the best bred horses but you will find that they are going to get extremely long layoffs compared to less expensive horses.
It goes with the territory of following the elite horses. And as a rule, these horses will be ready to win when they start back. Lesser quality horses (15K runners or less)most likely will not be afforded the same luxury due to cost. Bottom ;line is, less expensive horses are not able to afford the same luxuries as the high end might. Kind of the same as people unfortunately. Not trying to be blunt, just brutally honest and trying to show that there is a difference, again, unfortunately.

Any insight will need to be determined from the trainers stats with length of time off, the rider selected, the workouts, etc.
Hope that makes sense.

[Madison]

And my next stable horse. AQ R7 Now down to 3 horse field. #7 Baff/Irad now 3-5.

[Madison]

Here's what I find so frustrating about racing. LP R9 OC 56K. #3 out of my stable. Down to 5 entries. Days OFF 1-378, 3-216, 4-211, 5-98, and the 6-18. Unless you have inside insight why would anyone be betting here?

[JBEX]

be interesting to know in a situation like this where a sire has exceeded expectations in his first 3 or 4 crops is he likely to at least maintain performance as the fees go up.. realize you have to take into account being bred to higher quality mares

[JBEX]

All that sounds fine JBEX. The nice thing about these AM's is because they always seem to give everything each race, finding a troubled trip that muddies up the form is great because you know the effort from the horse will be there close to 100% of the time next out. That is saying a lot in that I'm not sure I have ever seen that before throughout a large group of horses by the same sire.

yes I had a feeling besides you really liking him in general that from your experience what he has done is something special ..
the consistent effort part which I would not be able to tell is a great thing to know ..can certainly ,as you mentioned, offer value betting them off a troubled trip


hopefully the new crop does well and already off to a good start with blowout winner pinky finger at keeneland

[str]

for the sake of being consistent with what I'm doing related to army mule
have decided that I am no longer going to post "results" for him.. having something to say about a trip or possibly the results of an important race might be an exception to that..if str,batt or anybody else wants to mention something about a result that's fine (really not necessary) but from me it'll just be a notice that one is running

All that sounds fine JBEX. The nice thing about these AM's is because they always seem to give everything each race, finding a troubled trip that muddies up the form is great because you know the effort from the horse will be there close to 100% of the time next out. That is saying a lot in that I'm not sure I have ever seen that before throughout a large group of horses by the same sire.