Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

Several speeds in here to help set things up nicely. Cuts back off time from 1 mile races. The" if" is, can he close going 6F ? I don't know. At a short price I might just watch although the speeds don't do a lot for me.. I would think he might be more like 6-1 which makes him worth a look IMO.

agree but if he can think he's very tough in here..how about the dam's sire being pleasant colony .. he'd be 47yo this year lol !! johnny campo trained (sure you know that) who I'm guessing you might've mentioned in here along the way

[Easy-Rider 66]

The thing with MSW races are that with firsters, I feel others ( the connections) probably know more than I do. So while I always look, I am fine with most races but not particular to MSW.

I'm ok with anything but as you know, understanding each of the race conditions is a very big key for me.

THX. yeah see your point on the MSW races and I guess MDN Claimers as well.

[str]

Hey STR: what kind of race condition do you favor capping.? I lean toward MSW.

The thing with MSW races are that with firsters, I feel others ( the connections) probably know more than I do. So while I always look, I am fine with most races but not particular to MSW.

I'm ok with anything but as you know, understanding each of the race conditions is a very big key for me.

[JBEX]

It is a nice environment indeed JBEX. For me, the fact that he is based in Fla. now might have me send him back down for the next race. I have to think Chad is in Florida and if it was me, I would want to keep things exactly the same for the horse, that is, groom., exercise rider, stall, etc. I would want to see the horse daily or as often as possible and if Chad is down there, leaving him in NY has him away for that next race with everything different.
In today's world of shipping horses with such ease, Florida is the most likely choice Assuming all things are fine.

thanks str

probably the most important reason of them all is what you mentioned with chad being down in florida along with it being a nice place to be ..also keep him with the same people who work with him regularly .. kind of feel (w/o knowing the field) it's not crazy that he could run a nice race in the wood memorial (if they go that path) and then you have a shot with him in the derby at mega odds

[str]

by army mule

aqu R1 #4 remember the chief (3-1) @ 1:10

looks very capable vs these


also one much later at oaklawn..post tomorrow

Several speeds in here to help set things up nicely. Cuts back off time from 1 mile races. The" if" is, can he close going 6F ? I don't know. At a short price I might just watch although the speeds don't do a lot for me.. I would think he might be more like 6-1 which makes him worth a look IMO.

[str]

feel free to say if you don't care for him or like any others

I have not followed it very much this winter. I read the headlines but have not really looked hard at any big 3 yr. old Derby prep races yet so I just am not up to speed enough to have an opinion.

I respect your opinion on these so kind of futures. For me, I'm not sure I would know the true value of a stallion play at this point. Think I would be kind of lost.

[str]

hey str

mentioned in batt's thread that I liked garamond at a price in this round of future bets .. he was training at payson park coming up to the gotham stakes at aqu ..if chad were to send him back to payson park with the intention of shipping back to run in the wood memorial do you feel that's an advantageous scenario vs just keeping him at aqueduct? think we may have discussed a ways back that it's a deeper surface and good for getting a horse very fit for a race..maybe a nicer environment also and have him in a better state of mind for the race ?

It is a nice environment indeed JBEX. For me, the fact that he is based in Fla. now might have me send him back down for the next race. I have to think Chad is in Florida and if it was me, I would want to keep things exactly the same for the horse, that is, groom., exercise rider, stall, etc. I would want to see the horse daily or as often as possible and if Chad is down there, leaving him in NY has him away for that next race with everything different.
In today's world of shipping horses with such ease, Florida is the most likely choice Assuming all things are fine.

[str]

2nd start adding 2.5f. Looked a little green and possibly a bit ragged in the stretch. If you watch the race again STR I always watch the horses (Young) ability to rate first few starts. I think was a challenge as the horse/jockey has their eyes on the very fast front runner and maybe didn't see the 8 coming late outside???

I think he ran well but was getting tired, and understandably so, the last 1/8th. Not sure he much left in the tank if he saw that closer or not. He will be more fit next out but at low odds, I would be skeptical of assuming he just wins next out. It was a good effort, but I saw nothing special about it with the position he had and the leader early just running off.

Not saying he will lose, but I would proceed with caution on this one in his next start.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Hey STR: what kind of race condition do you favor capping.? I lean toward MSW.

[JBEX]

by army mule

aqu R1 #4 remember the chief (3-1) @ 1:10

looks very capable vs these


also one much later at oaklawn..post tomorrow

[JBEX]

hey str

mentioned in batt's thread that I liked garamond at a price in this round of future bets .. he was training at payson park coming up to the gotham stakes at aqu ..if chad were to send him back to payson park with the intention of shipping back to run in the wood memorial do you feel that's an advantageous scenario vs just keeping him at aqueduct? think we may have discussed a ways back that it's a deeper surface and good for getting a horse very fit for a race..maybe a nicer environment also and have him in a better state of mind for the race ?

feel free to say if you don't care for him or like any others

[JBEX]

hey str

mentioned in batt's thread that I liked garamond at a price in this round of future bets .. he was training at payson park coming up to the gotham stakes at aqu ..if chad were to send him back to payson park with the intention of shipping back to run in the wood memorial do you feel that's an advantageous scenario vs just keeping him at aqueduct? think we may have discussed a ways back that it's a deeper surface and good for getting a horse very fit for a race..maybe a nicer environment also and have him in a better state of mind for the race ?

[JBEX]

So the even money favorite wins, Army Mule runs 2nd and the 11, that interesting firster runs 3rd and the triple is 154.80 for a dollar.

Jeez ! Hope someone had that.

not hard to put together.. logical to put the favorite on top of both of them

[batt33]

So the even money favorite wins, Army Mule runs 2nd and the 11, that interesting firster runs 3rd and the triple is 154.80 for a dollar.

Jeez ! Hope someone had that.

yeah missed it ... would have been a 50 center for me

[str]

I remember this one from 2 weeks ago.
Should improve today. I have to think he runs 1,2,3 in there somewhere.

The 11 is an interesting firster on paper at what seems like a nice price.

So the even money favorite wins, Army Mule runs 2nd and the 11, that interesting firster runs 3rd and the triple is 154.80 for a dollar.

Jeez ! Hope someone had that.

[batt33]

by army mule ..oak R2 #2 battleoftheravine (8-1) @ 2:03

we saw his race 2 weeks ago ..got some useful conditioning off a 2 month layoff and adds blinkers

I went to put a couple across and the race just went off.... ran pretty good!

[Madison]

Looks like he ran a decent race finishing 2nd. I did notice that the horse that beat him was one of only two horses that won from coming more than about 2 lengths off the lead all day. Did not watch all of the races but I do find that rather curious.

2nd start adding 2.5f. Looked a little green and possibly a bit ragged in the stretch. If you watch the race again STR I always watch the horses (Young) ability to rate first few starts. I think was a challenge as the horse/jockey has their eyes on the very fast front runner and maybe didn't see the 8 coming late outside???

[batt33]

uncle mo an excellent dam sire ..lot's of potential there!

I hope so! all 4 foals will hopefully be sold at a sale.... Not sure what ones... long way off for that! fingers crossed.

[batt33]

Yes. I think that is exactly what Lukas had on his mind in doing that with the stick. A teaching moment. Don't know if it worked or not. We will see when he runs. That can be a really hard thing to try and break with some horses. But, some horses still have a serious will to win but just by a head. I think it is attention to detail things like that, that help separate trainers from horsemen.

And that most likely will not correct the issue overnight, but it definitely plants a seed in the horses brain as he matures.

GL Batt. We will be rooting for you !

Thanks STR! I was kinda thinking the same thing ... it may take a little longer than just one workout... Found a post after ward ( not sure if it is true) that Lukas thought he would have won if the Jockey went to the left handed whip earlier.

[batt33]

Scary Batt. But... just another day at the barn. All the things that can happen. It is why I often say that no news is good news sometimes when it comes to horses.

Glad to hear she is OK.

Thanks!