Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

Without knowing anything at all about the horse, just seeing the race, I would guess he runs here back for 25k at Saratoga in about 2-3 weeks. Assuming she comes out well.
Didn’t like her getting out into the lane so I Assume she needs the relief in class to help offset what I saw. While that might have had an excuse attached to it, my guess is is something she is used to dealing with.
Again, total guess but that’s what I saw in that minute of running. Pleaselet me know if you see her entered. Thanks.

will do str..put up the lone one going tomorrow..11026

[str]

Without knowing anything at all about the horse, just seeing the race, I would guess he runs here back for 25k at Saratoga in about 2-3 weeks. Assuming she comes out well.
Didn’t like her getting out into the lane so I Assume she needs the relief in class to help offset what I saw. While that might have had an excuse attached to it, my guess is is something she is used to dealing with.
Again, total guess but that’s what I saw in that minute of running. Pleaselet me know if you see her entered. Thanks.

[str]

was thinking the same thing..already got a nice chunk of it back with the win 1st off the claim .. even a 2nd or 3rd vs these is a nice accomplishment
and possibly a win 2-3 races down the road makes it a nice pickup.. I have upgraded my opinion looking at it more closely from the pp side and not factoring the trainer and sire

Remember the conversation I have had where I said " It's easier to win 3 in a row sometimes than it is two in a row" ? Sounds insane but this is the kind of situation I was talking about.
Ricky pushed a button with her, for lack of a better explanation. She is happy, she showed it in her last race. Now, today happens. It is indeed a step up. Maybe a step and a half because of it being Saratoga. If she wins today, it will most likely made her better still. Not by a lot but mentally, no question about it. So a cool race to watch and just watch her. Her eyes, her response to commands, when she hooks up with one of those real solid horses at the 3/16ths pole or later. Those little things. THAT is what a horseman is looking for. Sure, the overall effort. But those little things that are different from before he got her.
Now I'm excited to watch the race. Will try and carve my day out to see it live.

Man, horses like that can rekindle and old fire in a hurry JBEX.
Especially Filly's and Mares. Always seemed to click with them more so than the boys.

Thanks

[JBEX]

She is indeed stepping up and it is logical and the next step . Unfortunately it’s Saratoga where every race is going to be tougher than normal.
I know that everyone wants a winner but in this case, while winning is the objective, it’s important for Ricky to measure the overall performance and see if it in indeed a continuation of assenting her overall ability or not.
Better than 50-50 she will achieve that between Ricky training her and Army Mule flowing through her veins.
It’s so fun to watch this stuff. The story behind the story.

was thinking the same thing..already got a nice chunk of it back with the win 1st off the claim .. even a 2nd or 3rd vs these is a nice accomplishment
and possibly a win 2-3 races down the road makes it a nice pickup.. I have upgraded my opinion looking at it more closely from the pp side and not factoring the trainer and sire

[str]

beautiful day forecasted there tomorrow

She is indeed stepping up and it is logical and the next step . Unfortunately it’s Saratoga where every race is going to be tougher than normal.
I know that everyone wants a winner but in this case, while winning is the objective, it’s important for Ricky to measure the overall performance and see if it in indeed a continuation of assenting her overall ability or not.
Better than 50-50 she will achieve that between Ricky training her and Army Mule flowing through her veins.
It’s so fun to watch this stuff. The story behind the story.

[JBEX]

a tough but logical spot off her win last out .. look forward to seeing her give it a go

beautiful day forecasted there tomorrow

[JBEX]

7/23 weds ****

sar 7 @ 4:40
#6 pam pam (8-1)

str..rick dutrow won with her 1st off the claim last start…



Me: So this is the kind of horse that Ricky can get to run very well every time she runs. Any of the Dutrow boys could get a horse like her to fire hard every time she runs. I almost mentioned that before in general. Now that Ricky has one, let’s see.

a tough but logical spot off her win last out .. look forward to seeing her give it a go

[str]

7/23 weds ****

sar 7 @ 4:40
#6 pam pam (8-1)

str..rick dutrow won with her 1st off the claim last start…



Me: So this is the kind of horse that Ricky can get to run very well every time she runs. Any of the Dutrow boys could get a horse like her to fire hard every time she runs. I almost mentioned that before in general. Now that Ricky has one, let’s see.

[JBEX]

updated results and weds up ... 11026

[str]

I posted this in Snowballs thread in Players Talk about betting at the track. I have talked about this a lot but anyone that has not looked into this, please word search this thread and get up to speed.

I promise you will be real glad you did.


Snowball,
As for Mountaineer, there is a bias that can exist there on the inside. It severely favors certain horses at certain times. If you are familiar with that, then you know what to look for. If not, I highly encourage you to go to my thread in horse racing and key word search bias, grading, inside, etc. This is information that 98% of fans do not understand or can spot. Simply put, it is an unfair advantage for those few that truly understand it, when it does exist. If it does not exist, that is fine as well, but you need to know when betting.
Not only do you gain insight from which horse HAD a great rail to run well on, even better, you gain information on why a horse did NOT run well, especially when expected to by the bettors.
Priceless info Snowball. Hope you read about it and feel free to ask a question in my thread about it as well, if necessary. Good Luck at the Mountain.

[JBEX]

put up monday's result and tuesday's entries ..11026

[JBEX]

Last week almost felt like the Army Mules were just OK. Then you look again and about half of them were either 1st or 2nd. That's nuts !
In the long run, are there others out there that are that consistent? Can't be many.

they are extremely consistent with good efforts..looking at there pp's for over 3 years now and without being biased (which i could be accused of with the time investment) i am really amazed with what he's produced for a very low stud fee ..it's been more the last 3 years but the current runners including the 2 year olds fee was $10k or less

[str]

week 4 .. 7/21 -7/27
opening day sar to last day dmr (mid sept)
army mule progeny at ...

saratoga/del mar/monmouth/ellis/colonial
(del mar and colonial haven't begun yet)

monday and tuesday will look at all tracks ..weds to sunday the 5 above

everything for this week will be in this post
will be a notification when I post


7/21 monday ****

louisiana 3 @ 6:01
#7 battleoftheravine (8-1)
like this one

Last week almost felt like the Army Mules were just OK. Then you look again and about half of them were either 1st or 2nd. That's nuts !
In the long run, are there others out there that are that consistent? Can't be many.

[JBEX]

10959/10994/10999



week 4 .. 7/21 -7/27
opening day sar to last day dmr (mid sept)
army mule progeny at ...

saratoga/del mar/monmouth/ellis/colonial

monday and tuesday will look at all tracks ..weds to sunday the 5 above

everything for this week will be in this post
will be a notification when I post


7/21 monday ****

louisiana 3 @ 6:01
#7 battleoftheravine (8-1)
like this one

going in i thought he had a shot to get the lead and ,imo, when he didn't that was that .. feel he was an overlay in spite of where he finished
last @ 18-1


7/22 tuesday ****

parx 8 @ 3:53
#2 mission first (9-2)
2nd @ 8-1 .. 3-5 won $13 ex (2)

louisiana 2 @ 5:33
#3 be here now (4-5)
WON $2.40 ... easy


7/23 weds ****

sar 7 @ 4:40
#6 pam pam (8-1)

str..rick dutrow won with her 1st off the claim last start
out @ 14-1



7/24 thursday ****

colonial 5 @ 12:59
#2 master mule (5-1)
out @ 7-2


7/25 friday ****

nothing

7/26 saturday ****

saratoga 2 @ 1:07
#4 soldier n diplomat (8-5)
2 yo debut.. $950k auction purchase ..amazing for a $7.5k fee (in 2022)
WON $3.90


colonial 3 @ 1:30
#7 my stubborn lassie (5-2)
2yo debut
3rd @ 2-1


7/27 sunday ****

forgot to post today's lone runner .. sorry
sar 2 #6 backstretch rose WON $4.60







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[JBEX]

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[JBEX]

probably 4 or 5 years away from it running but it'll be interesting to see what danse macabre produces as a broodmare ..have to think they'll be using a premiere sire for her first mating

[JBEX]

nothing today

[str]

How can you not love a horse named 'Book 'em Danno'?

Agree. What a GREAT name.

That group of owners is such a cool thing to see. It is a dream come true scenario Nasher.

I have a group of friends that I grew up with, played sports with and even against sometimes, went to high school with, that after I became a trainer, we set up a similar small syndicate. A one or two horse at a time partnership. It was GREAT ! Just claimers, but that did not matter a bit.
We won races, lost races, had our highs and lows that all come with the game. The best part of all of it, win or lose, was sharing the experiences with people I grew up with. To this day, we still get together once, twice a year for the triple crown or BC races and sit around and tell old stories, a couple of lies, and many a fond memory. That never gets old Nasher. And the fact that overall, we win long term betting is even better. We don't win much. But we do win. Then each fall, we get a couple bushels of crabs and sit around for hours picking, drinking, telling stories, and it's all a blessing.
I love those guys. I love the ties that still bind today. It is a privilege to have been able to train for that group and after all these years, still partner up to try and win a couple of times a year.
At the end of the day Nasher, memories usually carry all the weight. That said, these guys with that horse are about a couple of wins away from having a movie made of their venture. Don't let them win a Breeders Cup Sprint this fall. And this horse has the perfect style to have a big chance at that. Lays off the pace, but not too far back. Fractions of 21-44 is almost guaranteed in the BC Sprint. It's a perfect setup for him. If it happens, it would be incredible. I know I'm rooting for them.

[stevenash]

How can you not love a horse named 'Book 'em Danno'?

[str]

Sorry to hear Bud. Stuff I'd brush off with little thought years ago takes its toll now. Hope you are on the upswing.

Doing fine now Madison. Appreciate the well wishes.