Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

sorry about SNC batt..sure after a few months away to recoup he'll have a nice year back at home

[JBEX]

yes saw the same thing.... legs looked good... wondering if it could be a breathing issue....

we'll see what str thinks .. hopefully he's ok

think ovetta's hobby got a lot out of that race and is primed for a big effort 2nd off the layoff

[batt33]

didn't look good with war mule..guess he was eased in the stretch and noticed when he crossed the wire his head was up and went side to side

yes saw the same thing.... legs looked good... wondering if it could be a breathing issue....

[JBEX]

didn't look good with war mule..guess he was eased in the stretch and noticed when he crossed the wire his head was up and went side to side

[JBEX]

(AM SA6)OH cold on the board ..6-1 w/3 mtp

[batt33]

I have not seen this race but I don't care for the " antsy" part. I was hopeful that he had matured somewhat away from that especially after his last 2 races. But in his defense, it does not take much , especially at a different venue, to get any horse wound up pre race.

Sorry that occurred Batt. Seems it might take an event like this to beat him between the pre race nerves and the bad break.

He will be back. I think your trainer has done a super job with him and most likely will off this race as well.

Just wasn't his day..... Yes Blacker has!

Straight No Chaser Post Race Update



Straight No Chaser bounced out of the G1 Golden Shaheen in good order this morning. Trainer Dan Blacker passed along the video above of him, reporting he jogged up sound and is good spirits. Straight No Chaser is currently scheduled to leave Dubai on Wednesday and we will follow up with any additional information.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...3917405044.mp4

[batt33]

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by army mule

santa anita 6 @ 6:09

#6 ovetta's hobby (7-2)

2 race win streak but first time on downhill turf course is tough .. rispoli (journalism jock) will be aboard for first time ..should be in a good state of mind

rispoli .... is another " Toro on the turf"! Fernando Toro was a grass race specialist .. back about 30 years ago. Berrios is another good turf rider.

[batt33]

by army mule ..sunday

oak R12 @ 6:38

#9 war mule (2-1)

This horse looks solid in this race.

Very surprised if he isn't right there in here.

I'm with you STR!

[JBEX]

That first run down the hill can be tough to overcome. But I don’t put anything past the AM,s.
She has never missed the board and getting better every start. Unreal.

yes I agree and lot's of repect from ml maker imo factoring she's never been on the grass..interesting to me 2 consecutive dirt wins ,second one being on new years day and they give her more than 3 months off and switch surfaces ..resumed workouts fairly quickly since that last race also

[str]

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by army mule

santa anita 6 @ 6:09

#6 ovetta's hobby (7-2)

2 race win streak but first time on downhill turf course is tough .. rispoli (journalism jock) will be aboard for first time ..should be in a good state of mind

That first run down the hill can be tough to overcome. But I don’t put anything past the AM,s.
She has never missed the board and getting better every start. Unreal.

[JBEX]

by army mule ..sunday

oak R12 @ 6:38

#9 war mule (2-1)

This horse looks solid in this race.

Very surprised if he isn't right there in here.

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by army mule

santa anita 6 @ 6:09

#6 ovetta's hobby (7-2)

2 race win streak but first time on downhill turf course is tough .. rispoli (journalism jock) will be aboard for first time ..should be in a good state of mind

[JBEX]

maybe allard will consider met mile on belmont stakes day .. at saratoga again..running style a good fit I would think for the wilson chute and big efforts both times going a mile..another interesting follow .. runs well fresh also

[JBEX]

[QUOTE=str;n29865480]

Thanks for the heads up JBEX.
Allard's horse ran great. He has always been a top notch trainer wherever he ran.
Let's see if Linda's horse, who ran a respectable 4th wins next out. That was a winning race in a lot of spots and she has always struck me as a trainer that when her horse gives a winning effort but cannot beat that competition, she makes it a point to get that horse in a spot next out where if it repeats that effort, it is good enough to win.
Let's see about that next race.

no problem str



yeah allard's horse ran great..did all the dirty work and just beat at the wire ..$120k difference in purse ..guess you feel good about the effort but the money part stings especially with all the effort to ship here

with linda rice's those races he ran at aqu carry an 80k+ purse and with what they won already with him might try that again .. maybe less chance he's taken for $80k also

just saw the race she claimed out of where he just missed was a drop from the bold ruler stakes ..maybe a similiar choice for next race

[str]

[QUOTE=JBEX;n29865201]

it's really amazing how often these army mules have legit excuses when they run subpar..it's great to know this stuff for follow up plays and to further confirm he is producing solid runners overall even when it's not obvious to the untrained eye ..great job str


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on a separate note thought you might find this race interesting


carter stakes at aqu (army mules finale) ..don't really have an opinion but deep solid field

couple of interesting notes
..

ed allard shipping from laurel with a horse that's only run there in 5 career starts (won 4 of them)

linda rice has an "8yo" she claimed 4 starts back who ran a career high figure last start




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Thanks for the heads up JBEX.
Allard's horse ran great. He has always been a top notch trainer wherever he ran.
Let's see if Linda's horse, who ran a respectable 4th wins next out. That was a winning race in a lot of spots and she has always struck me as a trainer that when her horse gives a winning effort but cannot beat that competition, she makes it a point to get that horse in a spot next out where if it repeats that effort, it is good enough to win.
Let's see about that next race.

[str]

Thanks STR! watching him in the walking ring... he looks antsy.... but he has done this in the past.

I have not seen this race but I don't care for the " antsy" part. I was hopeful that he had matured somewhat away from that especially after his last 2 races. But in his defense, it does not take much , especially at a different venue, to get any horse wound up pre race.

Sorry that occurred Batt. Seems it might take an event like this to beat him between the pre race nerves and the bad break.

He will be back. I think your trainer has done a super job with him and most likely will off this race as well.

[str]

by army mule ..sunday

oak R12 @ 6:38

#9 war mule (2-1)

This horse looks solid in this race.

Very surprised if he isn't right there in here.

[JBEX]

by army mule ..sunday

oak R12 @ 6:38

#9 war mule (2-1)

[JBEX]

like a hill rd (9-2WP) with journalism (6-5W) parlay in the two big prep races ..wood memorial and santa anita derby respectively ..wins forward to a WP bet on journalism in the ky derby ..realize if it hit today and hill rd won the derby would be pretty frustrating so I'll leave open switching the ky derby bet but will definitely be one or both of those two

so at ml odds hitting today's parlay +870



generally speaking a WP bet vs a win bet of the same total amount pays about 75% of the win only bet

so say 10W vs 5WP @ 5-1 odds

10W =60
5WP = 30 +15 place (about) 45

so about a $5 profit investing $10 as a consolation ..think that is worth doing vs the straight win bet

scratched

[batt33]

Straight No Chaser Race Recap



Straight No Chaser failed to fire today after a rough trip in the Dubai Golden Shaheen.

He stumbled at the start, and that pretty much did him in. Forced to attempt to rate while in between horses, he took tons of kickback and never looked comfortable at all. He continued to drop back while really fighting with the dirt down the backside and into the turn, and at that point was left with an impossible task over a very speed-friendly surface. He made a mild run in the lane and did seem to be moving fine once the field spread out and he wasn’t taking so much kickback.

We’ll see how he comes back, but at this point it just seems like a race that you draw a line through and move on. You simply can’t have that early trouble against world-class sprinters—especially on that track which is historically kind to speed on World Cup night and which has been notably producing a lot of kickback today. The fact that the winner, who was 65-1 in the U.S. pool, went gate to wire is further evidence that the track made an impact.

As we’ve mentioned previously, having already locked up a stud deal for Straight No Chaser does take a bit of the sting out of what was no doubt a disappointing outing. We’ll get our champ back to the States, regroup, and get him ready for a productive second half of the season.

[batt33]

Thanks STR! watching him in the walking ring... he looks antsy.... but he has done this in the past.

well that sucked.....

[batt33]

Batt.
For your horse Straight No Chaser, I don't think the competition really matters that much. Certainly the race setup and his early position is very important. But if he breaths, relaxes, is awaiting rider commands, THAT, is IMO the key to this race and his future. If we see what we saw last time, it will be impressive.

Good luck Batt. Were all rooting for you.

Thanks STR! watching him in the walking ring... he looks antsy.... but he has done this in the past.

[JBEX]

[QUOTE=str;n29865193]

OK. Let's remember to see Remember the Chief next out as well.

This poor horse was completely unprepared for the break. As soon as the starters gate man was out of the way, he sprang the latch. WTF.!!

This horse was totally unprepared to break when the starter hit the button. She broke on her left lead, the WRIONG lead, and as far as I could tell without watching the head on, she ran on that left lead all the way. I never saw her switch. Her head was still turned to the left. WHAT ???

I totally don't understand why the starter did not at least give her a second or two to get herself together.

This is another MUST watch when she runs back. That was actually a great effort on only one lead the entire race and she is trying to finish !

Look for a much better effort next out as long as the starter gives her a friggin second or two to get balanced. Jeez.

If we are doing a must watch or play next out list, you have two prime candidates with these last two.

it's really amazing how often these army mules have legit excuses when they run subpar..it's great to know this stuff for follow up plays and to further confirm he is producing solid runners overall even when it's not obvious to the untrained eye ..great job str


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on a separate note thought you might find this race interesting


carter stakes at aqu (army mules finale) ..don't really have an opinion but deep solid field

couple of interesting notes
..

ed allard shipping from laurel with a horse that's only run there in 5 career starts (won 4 of them)

linda rice has an "8yo" she claimed 4 starts back who ran a career high figure last start




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[str]

[QUOTE=JBEX;n29865182]

sure RTC

thu 4/3
aqu R6


terrific Insight on molly's a bullet ..great effort the race before so you know the talent is there ..hopefully her issues can be resolved

OK. Let's remember to see Remember the Chief next out as well.

This poor horse was completely unprepared for the break. As soon as the starters gate man was out of the way, he sprang the latch. WTF.!!

This horse was totally unprepared to break when the starter hit the button. She broke on her left lead, the WRIONG lead, and as far as I could tell without watching the head on, she ran on that left lead all the way. I never saw her switch. Her head was still turned to the left. WHAT ???

I totally don't understand why the starter did not at least give her a second or two to get herself together.

This is another MUST watch when she runs back. That was actually a great effort on only one lead the entire race and she is trying to finish !

Look for a much better effort next out as long as the starter gives her a friggin second or two to get balanced. Jeez.

If we are doing a must watch or play next out list, you have two prime candidates with these last two.

[str]

[QUOTE=JBEX;n29865182]

sure RTC

thu 4/3
aqu R6


terrific Insight on molly's a bullet ..great effort the race before so you know the talent is there ..hopefully her issues can be resolved

Yeah everyone. This one is a must look hard next out.

[JBEX]

[QUOTE=str;n29865179]

Can you help me with the race, date and track on this one please?

sure RTC

thu 4/3
aqu R6


terrific Insight on molly's a bullet ..great effort the race before so you know the talent is there ..hopefully her issues can be resolved

[str]

[QUOTE=batt33;n29864804]

don't get remember the chief..maybe the full view of horses breaking inside of him (vs blinkers) made him less aggressive ? on pp's he was the speed of the race imo [/QUOTE

it looked like his head was moving a little bit from side to side and wasn't quite ready for the break.

Can you help me with the race, date and track on this one please?

[JBEX]

like a hill rd (9-2WP) with journalism (6-5W) parlay in the two big prep races ..wood memorial and santa anita derby respectively ..wins forward to a WP bet on journalism in the ky derby ..realize if it hit today and hill rd won the derby would be pretty frustrating so I'll leave open switching the ky derby bet but will definitely be one or both of those two

so at ml odds hitting today's parlay +870



generally speaking a WP bet vs a win bet of the same total amount pays about 75% of the win only bet

so say 10W vs 5WP @ 5-1 odds

10W =60
5WP = 30 +15 place (about) 45

so about a $5 profit investing $10 as a consolation ..think that is worth doing vs the straight win bet

my original parlay number of +1100 was off by a lot as i figured a win vs WP bet.. sharpness is gone and I apologize

so the math since I messed up

9-2 = +450 x .75(WP bet) 3.4 (round off)

100+340 =440 * 2.2 (6-5) = 968 -100
say +870

the struggle to do this for me is scary .. used to be like nothing ..if it's wrong this time it ain't by much..sorry again and corrected above

[str]

by army mule

gulfstream 5

#5 molly's a bullet (4-1)
@2:58





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Just watched this horse. She was never into the bit and looked disinterested too me. You never know. She might have just not felt well although not showing a temperature yet, or something was bugging her. Don't know but the rider is asking her to get in the game early and she just had no interest. Late switching back to the right lead through the lane as well. More disinterest if that is not the norm.

If she breezes better than normal before her next race, that could be a real key that whatever was not right with her then, is just fine now. And being a filly, they do have menstrual cycles and when they are " horsing" it can certainly affect their performance.

Well worth keeping an eye on her next out. She is much better than she was yesterday.

[str]

Batt.
For your horse Straight No Chaser, I don't think the competition really matters that much. Certainly the race setup and his early position is very important. But if he breaths, relaxes, is awaiting rider commands, THAT, is IMO the key to this race and his future. If we see what we saw last time, it will be impressive.

Good luck Batt. Were all rooting for you.

[str]

Hey STR: in looking at the comment section of the form I saw a statement that the horse in question was "Pulled". What does that entail? THX

My assumption would be that this is a speed horse that burned up early and faded in the stretch? He was probably
"pulling" the rider out of the saddle early. That would be " running off" and certainly not relaxing and breathing well. Probably spent after 3/8ths or a 1/2?

[JBEX]

chad browns 2nd and 3rd place finishers behind the extremely slow pace in the tampa bay derby are scheduled to run in the wood memorial and blue grass
..latter I mentioned is postponed till tuesday and chancer mcpatrick is the one there..in the wood memorial it's hill road..lots of pace in the wood and coming off that even run behind that crawling pace in the TBD think he's primed for a good effort..his run in the bc juvenile would make him tough .. classy distance pedigree so he should love the extra ground

like a hill rd (9-2WP) with journalism (6-5W) parlay in the two big prep races ..wood memorial and santa anita derby respectively ..wins forward to a WP bet on journalism in the ky derby ..realize if it hit today and hill rd won the derby would be pretty frustrating so I'll leave open switching the ky derby bet but will definitely be one or both of those two

so at ml odds hitting today's parlay +870



generally speaking a WP bet vs a win bet of the same total amount pays about 75% of the win only bet

so say 10W vs 5WP @ 5-1 odds

10W =60
5WP = 30 +15 place (about) 45

so about a $5 profit investing $10 as a consolation ..think that is worth doing vs the straight win bet

[JBEX]

I didn't see anything either with molly's a bullet trip batt

battleoftheravine went off 5-2 (15-1 ml) and this was a 12 horse field at a major track .. running on the front all the way ,big lead well into the stretch,tired late and just held on for 2nd

look forward to your review str

[str]

Sorry guys. Long day but I'm all over this stuff in the morning.

Should be around all day.

[batt33]

[QUOTE=JBEX;n29864987]by army mule

gulfstream 5

#5 molly's a bullet (4-1)
@2:58





.[/QUOTe
watched the replay..... may have not been her day.... no excuses as far as I can tell... ran at the class level in the past.

[JBEX]

by army mule

gulfstream 5

#5 molly's a bullet (4-1)
@2:58





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finished out of money @ 7-1


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oaklawn

R10 #1 battleoftheravine (15-1)
@ 6:34

track is muddy




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