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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #74586
    I hit Cleveland to win live two more times.

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    • turtledoves
      SBR MVP
      • 08-27-17
      • 3398

      #74587
         
      Last edited by turtledoves; 09-16-18, 10:13 PM.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #74588
        Originally posted by turtledoves
        ARI/LARM over 43.5

        thinking about NE/JAX over
        Unreal, we disagree.

        Here's what I bought earlier this week, +13 and the Under...

        279 ARI 13 -108
        280 LAR U 45 -120
        Here's what I just bought right now...

        284 JAX U 45.5 -110
        I am do due to lose, lol.

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        • KVB
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 05-29-14
          • 74817

          #74589
          Not going to lie, the Over in JAX is a good Contrarian play. In fact the money and tickets are heavy on the Under.

          The tickets are one thing, not too extreme on the Under, but the money is very extreme....


          ...It's a strange situation and in most cases is a market read style pass, but for the NFL Fund, it's a play.

          The game is going Over, I would think, but clearly big money likes an Under.

          Are we going to disagree with the big money and the Fund total play?

          Maybe...lol.

          Last edited by KVB; 09-16-18, 02:58 PM.
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          • KVB
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 05-29-14
            • 74817

            #74590
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            • turtledoves
              SBR MVP
              • 08-27-17
              • 3398

              #74591
              sprinkled cle +345 live

              NOOOOOOO

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              • turtledoves
                SBR MVP
                • 08-27-17
                • 3398

                #74592
                pick up saints if it reaches OT
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                • KVB
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 05-29-14
                  • 74817

                  #74593
                  Unfukkin real. I'm all Cleveland here.

                  Fuk.
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                  • turtledoves
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-27-17
                    • 3398

                    #74594
                    thanks for the insights, maybe try for NE over live
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #74595
                      Ok, so I know I wasn't posting, but I may have to short my NFL Fund depending on the afternoon's action.

                      Currently, the NFL Fund, which has only had a couple of plays posted pre game, is 13-2-1.

                      Here are the remaining plays today...

                      279 ARI 13 -108
                      280 LAR U 45 -120
                      281 DET O 48 -112
                      284 JAX U 45.5 -110
                      286 DEN -6 -115
                      If it runs up higher, we may have an extra opportunity here.

                      There becomes a difference between early and mid season so more has to be analyzed.


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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #74596
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #74597
                          I would imagine we see some failure this afternoon.
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                          • KVB
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                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #74598
                            Off to the dispensary. GG#5 (cross between GG #4 and GG#1) and Hitman OG in my future.

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                            • turtledoves
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-27-17
                              • 3398

                              #74599
                                  
                              Last edited by turtledoves; 09-18-18, 06:18 PM.
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                              • DiggityDaggityDo
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-30-08
                                • 81454

                                #74600
                                Jiggle em if you got em.


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                                • KVB
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 05-29-14
                                  • 74817

                                  #74601
                                  Can't find genetics on Hitman, say not available to the public...lol.

                                  Cost me $33 per 1/8 after the weekly deal and I don't pay taxes on any of it, I am exempt.

                                  I think it's worth it. Picked up some Gelato Cake wax/crumble too.

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                                  • DiggityDaggityDo
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-30-08
                                    • 81454

                                    #74602
                                    I said jiggle em if you got em.


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                                    • turtledoves
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-27-17
                                      • 3398

                                      #74603
                                      unloading

                                      NYG/DAL over 41.5
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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #74604
                                        Two Props but the lines have really moved. These were both +105 but now they are favored...

                                        Allen Hurns receiving yards OVER 34.5 (-120)

                                        Deonte Thompson receiving yards UNDER 26.5 (-145)

                                        Huge move on Thompson but the line is still 26.5.

                                        Let's see how it goes.

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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #74605
                                          I also bought Allen Hurns Over 3 receptions (-118).

                                          On accident.

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                                          • KVB
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 05-29-14
                                            • 74817

                                            #74606
                                            Here's what I have at one Heritge account, to show where I made the mistake...

                                            Short Description
                                            Football - 3287298 Total receptions by A. Hurns vs Total receptions by A. Hurns over 3 -118 for Game
                                            Football - 3287296 Total receiving yards by A. Hurns vs Total receiving yards by A. Hurns over 35½ -110 for Game
                                            3072299 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Point spread / Dallas Cowboys -2.5 -125
                                            The -2.5 is live and all I could get was 35.5 at that book. I took it as well. They didn't have the D Thompson prop.

                                            Looks like Dallas scored first

                                            Fuk.

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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #74607
                                              Yes, this account is quite discretionary, not even a market reads account.

                                              Short Description
                                              Football - 3287298 Total receptions by A. Hurns vs Total receptions by A. Hurns over 3 -118 for Game
                                              Football - 3287296 Total receiving yards by A. Hurns vs Total receiving yards by A. Hurns over 35½ -110 for Game
                                              3072299 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Point spread / Dallas Cowboys -2.5 -125
                                              3072634 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Half Time / Full Time / Dallas Cowboys / Dallas Cowboys -226
                                              3072667 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Half Time / Full Time / Dallas Cowboys / Dallas Cowboys -250
                                              Lets get Stooopid!!!!!!!!!

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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #74608
                                                Short Description
                                                Football - 3287298 Total receptions by A. Hurns vs Total receptions by A. Hurns over 3 -118 for Game
                                                Football - 3287296 Total receiving yards by A. Hurns vs Total receiving yards by A. Hurns over 35½ -110 for Game
                                                3072299 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Point spread / Dallas Cowboys -2.5 -125
                                                3072634 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Half Time / Full Time / Dallas Cowboys / Dallas Cowboys -226
                                                3072667 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Half Time / Full Time / Dallas Cowboys / Dallas Cowboys -250
                                                3072728 - Football - Dallas Cowboys vs New York Giants / Game / Half Time / Full Time / Dallas Cowboys / Dallas Cowboys -200

                                                Fuk the sharks, I say no comeback tonight.
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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #74609
                                                  Originally posted by Fidel_CashFlow
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #74610
                                                    Originally posted by KVB
                                                    Let me make up for it by giving some real analysis. I mentioned that it's not always about the road team but could be about the home team's failure...

                                                    Central Michigan +14 over N. Illinois:

                                                    The stacking forecast has N. Illinois winning with 27 points to C Mich's 20 points, but the line is 14! You see, Nilly hasn't scored shit in the last two outings. We have ample evidence over years that teams in this situation tend to get overestimated when they become home and favored. It's a situational component that, when factored into the margin of victory, has an effect on an already decent looking forecast. In all fairness, the public gauge shows Northern Illinois winning 28-20, seemingly mitigating the theory, but not the line. The public gauge is looked at but not used in producing the play.

                                                    Akron +21.5 over Northwestern:

                                                    We have the same situation with Northwestern as bettors may be looking to see their team bounce as well from a rough week. The stacking forecast shows N'Western winning with 38 points to Akron's 16 points but when we factor that situation into the line we see a failure on Northwestern's part here.

                                                    The public gauge shows a 27 point game and confirms the theory behind the numbers. Again the public gauge is not used in any way in making the decisions for this Fund. This Fund seeks predictive behaviors, the public gauge is non-predictive.

                                                    One caveat here. Before this Fund began there were 4 plays that factored in this situation for the home team; those plays went 3-1. I do not expect bets that are in part arrived using this metric to perform at such a high level. There could some volatility but these bets have a near 60% expectation of winning.

                                                    We are exploiting the nature of the bettors when dealing with home teams and favorites here, it's a nature that hasn't changed, perhaps ever.

                                                    So, stick that in your insomnia pipe and smoke it.



                                                    Central Michigan covered and Akron outright won the game.

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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #74611
                                                      Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                      "Video unavailable. This video has been removed for violating YouTube's policy on harassment and bullying."

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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #74612
                                                        The KVB NCAAF ATS/ML Fund with a rough closing line comparison. There have been 20 total plays here, 3 of them are monelines...


                                                        Record Date NCAAF ATS/ML Fund 1 Unit Closing Beat BTC ATS BTC ML
                                                        ATS per bet Line Closer? Average Average
                                                        0-1 30-Aug WAKE -6.5 (-105) -1 -7.5 Y 1
                                                        1-Sep MIA (OH) -125 -1 -110 N 0.15
                                                        0-2 SMU +3.5 (-109) -1 3 Y 0.5
                                                        1-2 WASH ST -3 (-103) 0.97 3 PUSH 0
                                                        MICH -130 -1 -151 Y 0.21
                                                        2-2 2-Sep LSU +3 (+105) 1.05 3 PUSH 0
                                                        2-3 3-Sep FLORIDA ST -7 (-110) -1 -7.5 Y 0.5
                                                        2-4 8-Sep N MEX ST +23 (-105) -1 21.5 Y 1.5
                                                        3-4 KANSAS +3 (+105) 1.05 3 PUSH 0
                                                        4-4 COLORADO +3 (-105) 0.95 3 PUSH 0
                                                        4-5 UMASS +1.5 (-102) -1 1.5 PUSH 0
                                                        4-6 FRESNO ST + 1 (-110) -1 0 Y 1
                                                        5-6 CAL +3 (-110) 0.91 2 Y 1
                                                        6-6 13-Sep UNC CHAR +1.5 (-105) 0.95 1.5 PUSH 0
                                                        6-7 15-Sep UMASS +3.5 (-108) -1 3.5 PUSH 0
                                                        6-8 FLORIDA ST -3 (-108) -1 -3.5 Y 0.5
                                                        BOISE ST -113 over OK ST -1 -116 Y 0.03
                                                        6-9 N MEX ST +3 (+100) -1 3 PUSH 0
                                                        7-9 DUKE +4.5 (-113) 0.88 2 Y 2.5
                                                        8-9 N TEXAS +6 (-105) 0.95 5.5 Y 0.5
                                                        8-9-0 Total -4.29 11-1-8 0.529412 0.13
                                                        Beating the closer, roughly, so maybe we should move it into the Total Return Fund. Not doing it yet, still looking at all my options.

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                                                        • turtledoves
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-27-17
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                                                          #74613
                                                          Kevin the Value Bettor

                                                          they should call you the hitman
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                                                          • turtledoves
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-27-17
                                                            • 3398

                                                            #74614
                                                            nothing is more important than the grapes

                                                            moondrops for the nighttime snack

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                                                            • turtledoves
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-27-17
                                                              • 3398

                                                              #74615
                                                              i'm about to smoke on the shitman

                                                              some people open up their bags and say OG, i open up my bag and say Oh-No!
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                                                              • turtledoves
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-27-17
                                                                • 3398

                                                                #74616
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                                                                • KVB
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                                  • 74817

                                                                  #74617
                                                                  Dove's went on a delete rampage, lol.

                                                                  Here's the KVB NCAAF UPSET Basket through it's 25 plays. I maintain that this is a decent fund to pick from and if you graph it in rotation order, you'll see, well just look. The fund dropped nearly 6 units this week. That's a decent move, I expect it to go positive, and I think I should prepare a long term graph to show the volatility.

                                                                  Another choice for the Total Return Fund with this week's drop.

                                                                  The closing line comparison is rough, it uses Pinny, but I think percentages are better. Either way, notice the record against the closer.

                                                                  Maybe there's a bias because I may be squeezing parts of these plays into less sharp books, that already kicked out the guys honing the line at Pinny. That shouldn't be, but it's a big marketplace and I'm posting the line I get.

                                                                  Date NCAAF UPSET Basket 1 Unit Closing Beat BTC ML
                                                                  per bet Line Closer? Average
                                                                  30-Aug KENNESAW ST +130 -1 120 Y 0.10
                                                                  UC DAVIS +120 1.2 120 PUSH 0.00
                                                                  1-Sep MARSHALL +120 1.2 -102 Y 0.22
                                                                  SMU +150 -1 143 Y 0.07
                                                                  MTENN ST +130 -1 134 N -0.04
                                                                  8-Sep FLOR INT +115 1.15 -154 Y 0.69
                                                                  DUKE +130 1.3 126 Y 0.04
                                                                  ARI +157 -1 150 Y 0.07
                                                                  KANSAS +167 1.67 134 Y 0.33
                                                                  COLORADO +142 1.42 141 Y 0.01
                                                                  IOWA ST +155 -1 145 Y 0.10
                                                                  UMASS +125 -1 107 Y 0.18
                                                                  FRESNO ST +115 -1 -110 Y 0.25
                                                                  CINCI +105 1.05 101 Y 0.04
                                                                  CAL +145 1.45 111 Y 0.34
                                                                  15-Sep UMASS +165 -1 145 Y 0.20
                                                                  RUTGERS +140 -1 -110 Y 0.50
                                                                  OHIO +135 -1 164 N -0.29
                                                                  BOISE ST +135 -1 -116 Y 0.51
                                                                  HOUSTON +110 -1 106 Y 0.04
                                                                  E MICH +150 -1 117 Y 0.33
                                                                  OREGON ST +155 -1 158 N -0.03
                                                                  ARK ST +115 1.15 108 Y 0.07
                                                                  USC +145 -1 135 Y 0.10
                                                                  FRESNO ST -102 0.98 -145 Y 0.43
                                                                  Total -2.43 21-3-1 0.17

                                                                  This Fund starting a wave around even, I like that. We should see a wave that tilts upward, but the bottom is hard to define.

                                                                  I already have plays for next week.

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                                                                  • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-03-12
                                                                    • 53970

                                                                    #74618
                                                                    turtledoves is a horrible gambler
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                                                                    • Fidel_CashFlow
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 12-03-12
                                                                      • 53970

                                                                      #74619
                                                                      Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                      Fidels, can it be ordered with sprinkles?

                                                                      beats anything I got at my shop
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                                                                      • KVB
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                                        • 74817

                                                                        #74620
                                                                        If we really want to grind it out, there's a "Fund" that takes only moneyline upsets, but the moneylines are bigger. That one had LSU this week and is up this season with a 4-5 record. When you grind those size dogs, you have to endure losses, and can, to still get profit.

                                                                        This week, that Fund had LSU, C Mich, E Mich, and Texas St. It went 1-3 and still made .18 units in profit.

                                                                        It's like that.

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