Horse Racing questions and answers

[batt33]

Real Savvy Update



Real Savvy continues to train on at Christophe Clement’s winter base at Payson Park, most recently working an easy five furlongs last week in 1:04.20. All seemed to go well in that work, although his throat/breathing will continue to be monitored closely. As previously mentioned and based on the expert opinions of two vets, we have elected to train on with him for now and move towards a 3-year-old debut. The recent inclement weather in Florida has pushed back his next work a bit, but we expect another work here in the next week or so. As always, we will report back with any updates as they come to us.

[str]

don't get remember the chief..maybe the full view of horses breaking inside of him (vs blinkers) made him less aggressive ? on pp's he was the speed of the race imo

I will be sure and watch the race in the morning and see if I can see anything.

[JBEX]

[QUOTE=batt33;n29864804]

don't get remember the chief..maybe the full view of horses breaking inside of him (vs blinkers) made him less aggressive ? on pp's he was the speed of the race imo [/QUOTE

it looked like his head was moving a little bit from side to side and wasn't quite ready for the break.

yeah he did move his head to the left just before the gate opened..maybe that had to do with not being used to having no blinkers in the gate and was just unlucky when they sprung it open

[batt33]

[QUOTE=JBEX;n29864785]don't get remember the chief..maybe the full view of horses breaking inside of him (vs blinkers) made him less aggressive ? on pp's he was the speed of the race imo [/QUOTE

it looked like his head was moving a little bit from side to side and wasn't quite ready for the break.

[JBEX]

don't get remember the chief..maybe the full view of horses breaking inside of him (vs blinkers) made him less aggressive ? on pp's he was the speed of the race imo

[batt33]

aqu 6..has the box (if a 1 turn mile counts for that and hoping i described it right using box), 2nd off long layoff,stretching out and blinks off..could see him potentially getting an easy lead and like that pleasant colony blood on the bottom to go longer ..if he does wind up on the lead do you think not wearing the blinkers might help him str ?

gulfstream 6 is a first time starter .. AM one of the better debut sires and works are very steady and sharp imo .. not bad at potentially large odds

Following the AQ race
Agree with you at Gulfstream with the workouts JBEX

[batt33]

If and when the search function works, I went into a ton of detail about the box years ago.

It is a tremendous angle for finding bets with great opportunities for trips. Well worth finding it Batt. It not only makes perfect sense once you see it, it allows you to understand What the jockey is going to do and what the jock is doing and thinking during the race as it takes shape.

I never saw a speed horse who had a chance to be solo, breaking from the outside post especially out of a chute, and the longer the run down the backside the better, going 1 turn, that I did not heavily consider. It is as close to an unfair advantage as you will see Batt.
One of the best kept handicapping secrets there is out there.

Copy that STR!

[JBEX]

chad browns 2nd and 3rd place finishers behind the extremely slow pace in the tampa bay derby are scheduled to run in the wood memorial and blue grass
..latter I mentioned is postponed till tuesday and chancer mcpatrick is the one there..in the wood memorial it's hill road..lots of pace in the wood and coming off that even run behind that crawling pace in the TBD think he's primed for a good effort..his run in the bc juvenile would make him tough .. classy distance pedigree so he should love the extra ground

[JBEX]

It absolutely counts as the "box". Probably more so than normal because the horse has the opportunity to control the outside pressure on others while having no outside pressure on itself from the gate and all the way around the track.
And the blinkers OFF should help the horse settle and not get too hyper early and instead relax and work WITH the rider instead of against the rider. A perfect setup if the horse cooperates . I LOVE these angles JBEX.

good to know I used it right .. thx str

[JBEX]

Wow I never heard the term "box" as a betting angle thanks you 2 for pointing it out! Always learning!

I learned it from str .. had never heard of it before

[str]

I never saw a speed horse who had a chance to be solo, breaking from the outside post especially out of a chute, and the longer the run down the backside the better, going 1 turn, that I did not heavily consider. It is as close to an unfair advantage as you will see Batt.
One of the best kept handicapping secrets there is out there.

[str]

Wow I never heard the term "box" as a betting angle thanks you 2 for pointing it out! Always learning!

If and when the search function works, I went into a ton of detail about the box years ago.

It is a tremendous angle for finding bets with great opportunities for trips. Well worth finding it Batt. It not only makes perfect sense once you see it, it allows you to understand What the jockey is going to do and what the jock is doing and thinking during the race as it takes shape.

[batt33]

aqu 6..has the box (if a 1 turn mile counts for that and hoping i described it right using box), 2nd off long layoff,stretching out and blinks off..could see him potentially getting an easy lead and like that pleasant colony blood on the bottom to go longer ..if he does wind up on the lead do you think not wearing the blinkers might help him str ?

gulfstream 6 is a first time starter .. AM one of the better debut sires and works are very steady and sharp imo .. not bad at potentially large odds

I thought I had you and str's post linked together.... but it was on 2 different pages.... I guess that makes a difference. good info JBEX!

[batt33]

It absolutely counts as the "box". Probably more so than normal because the horse has the opportunity to control the outside pressure on others while having no outside pressure on itself from the gate and all the way around the track.
And the blinkers OFF should help the horse settle and not get too hyper early and instead relax and work WITH the rider instead of against the rider. A perfect setup if the horse cooperates . I LOVE these angles JBEX.

Wow I never heard the term "box" as a betting angle thanks you 2 for pointing it out! Always learning!

[batt33]

friday (opening day) and saturday's keeneland cards are canceled due to heavy rain there over the next few days ..opening day now will be sunday ,conditions permitting , while friday and saturday's cards will be made up on monday and tuesday respectively ..so the bluegrass will be next tuesday

Tuesday wow that's kinda strange , But I get it if they want space between now and the derby.

[str]

He looks good! I did say it earlier... But Dan Blacker is super happy and confident..... He is normally more reserved....
Straight No Chaser Draws Post 9



Straight No Chaser drew post nine of 13 Wednesday for Saturday’s G1 Dubai Golden Shaheen. Note that post time was pushed back an hour due to expected hot temperatures on race day, so the Golden Shaheen will go as the 6th with a post time of 11:40 a.m. ET/8:40 a.m. PT.

FS1 will broadcast the race in the States.

Your champion had another great morning of training as well, and a sizable group of owners who made the journey got to watch him train and then attend the draw.

See the accompanying video for sights and sounds from the day, including an interview with trainer Dan Blacker.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...3592072509.mp4

9 out of 13 is a great spot to start IMO. If he relaxes like last race, the others better have their running shoes on.

[str]

aqu 6..has the box (if a 1 turn mile counts for that and hoping i described it right using box), 2nd off long layoff,stretching out and blinks off..could see him potentially getting an easy lead and like that pleasant colony blood on the bottom to go longer ..if he does wind up on the lead do you think not wearing the blinkers might help him str ?

gulfstream 6 is a first time starter .. AM one of the better debut sires and works are very steady and sharp imo .. not bad at potentially large odds

It absolutely counts as the "box". Probably more so than normal because the horse has the opportunity to control the outside pressure on others while having no outside pressure on itself from the gate and all the way around the track.
And the blinkers OFF should help the horse settle and not get too hyper early and instead relax and work WITH the rider instead of against the rider. A perfect setup if the horse cooperates . I LOVE these angles JBEX.

[JBEX]

He looks good! I did say it earlier... But Dan Blacker is super happy and confident..... He is normally more reserved....
Straight No Chaser Draws Post 9



Straight No Chaser drew post nine of 13 Wednesday for Saturday’s G1 Dubai Golden Shaheen. Note that post time was pushed back an hour due to expected hot temperatures on race day, so the Golden Shaheen will go as the 6th with a post time of 11:40 a.m. ET/8:40 a.m. PT.

FS1 will broadcast the race in the States.

Your champion had another great morning of training as well, and a sizable group of owners who made the journey got to watch him train and then attend the draw.

See the accompanying video for sights and sounds from the day, including an interview with trainer Dan Blacker.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...3592072509.mp4

9 is not a bad post..not too far outside and less chances they'll be a horse outside to press him early .. his next race in the states will really be something to look forward to if he can get this one

[JBEX]

aqu 6..has the box (if a 1 turn mile counts for that and hoping i described it right using box), 2nd off long layoff,stretching out and blinks off..could see him potentially getting an easy lead and like that pleasant colony blood on the bottom to go longer ..if he does wind up on the lead do you think not wearing the blinkers might help him str ?

gulfstream 6 is a first time starter .. AM one of the better debut sires and works are very steady and sharp imo .. not bad at potentially large odds

will take a look!

just moving forward

[JBEX]

friday (opening day) and saturday's keeneland cards are canceled due to heavy rain there over the next few days ..opening day now will be sunday ,conditions permitting , while friday and saturday's cards will be made up on monday and tuesday respectively ..so the bluegrass will be next tuesday

[batt33]

He looks good! I did say it earlier... But Dan Blacker is super happy and confident..... He is normally more reserved....
Straight No Chaser Draws Post 9



Straight No Chaser drew post nine of 13 Wednesday for Saturday’s G1 Dubai Golden Shaheen. Note that post time was pushed back an hour due to expected hot temperatures on race day, so the Golden Shaheen will go as the 6th with a post time of 11:40 a.m. ET/8:40 a.m. PT.

FS1 will broadcast the race in the States.

Your champion had another great morning of training as well, and a sizable group of owners who made the journey got to watch him train and then attend the draw.

See the accompanying video for sights and sounds from the day, including an interview with trainer Dan Blacker.

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...3592072509.mp4

[batt33]

aqu 6..has the box (if a 1 turn mile counts for that and hoping i described it right using box), 2nd off long layoff,stretching out and blinks off..could see him potentially getting an easy lead and like that pleasant colony blood on the bottom to go longer ..if he does wind up on the lead do you think not wearing the blinkers might help him str ?

gulfstream 6 is a first time starter .. AM one of the better debut sires and works are very steady and sharp imo .. not bad at potentially large odds

will take a look!

[batt33]

more sensible thing to do .. have a hunch they might be pointing garamond (longshot derby future) for the preakness also ..he's not running in the wood memorial

agreed! I haven't heard any chatter about Garamond in my groups yet.

[JBEX]

by army mule ..thursday

aqueduct 6 @ 3:45

#7 remember the chief (6-1)


gulfstream 6 @ 3:29

#7 militia (20-1)


#7 in the 6th race for both




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aqu 6..has the box (if a 1 turn mile counts for that and hoping i described it right using box), 2nd off long layoff,stretching out and blinks off..could see him potentially getting an easy lead and like that pleasant colony blood on the bottom to go longer ..if he does wind up on the lead do you think not wearing the blinkers might help him str ?

gulfstream 6 is a first time starter .. AM one of the better debut sires and works are very steady and sharp imo .. not bad at potentially large odds

[JBEX]

by army mule ..thursday

aqueduct 6 @ 3:45

#7 remember the chief (6-1)


gulfstream 6 @ 3:29

#7 militia (20-1)


#7 in the 6th race for both




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[JBEX]

Caldera Breeze and Plan Update

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/IMG0395_1743437105682/MP4/IMG0395_1743437105682.mp4

Caldera returned to the work tab at Oaklawn today, breezing a solo five furlongs in 1:01.20.(3/17)

Trainer D. Wayne Lukas has decided to bypass the G1 Blue Grass S. and instead point Caldera to the $200K Bathhouse Row S. at Oaklawn Park going 1 1/8 miles on Apr. 19. That race carries with it an automatic berth into the G1 Preakness S. Rafael Bejarano is booked to ride.

The Blue Grass is coming up a very tough race, and it would be ambitious to try and take on that group of horses on two weeks’ rest off of Caldera’s last outing.

The Bathhouse Row, on the other hand, gives us much better spacing coming out of the Louisiana Derby and should hopefully set Caldera up to be the fresh, new shooter heading into the Preakness if all goes well. It’ll certainly be an easier field, a good spot to let Caldera build his confidence back up, and we also like the idea of running him back at Oaklawn.

We were game to try the Blue Grass if The Coach felt strongly that it was the right move, but we do feel this is a more prudent and realistic path that will hopefully pay off with a stakes win in a few weeks and a big rest of the spring and beyond.

Note that today’s breeze did not really impact the decision—it was decided before the work.

I'm happy with the race change! While the thought of the derby was nice.. It's still better for the horse.

more sensible thing to do .. have a hunch they might be pointing garamond (longshot derby future) for the preakness also ..he's not running in the wood memorial

[batt33]

Straight No Chaser Update



Straight No Chaser is one of 13 runners who were declared today for the G1 Dubai Golden Shaheen on Saturday. Note that actual post positions will not be drawn until Wednesday. Post time for the race is expected to be around 10:40 a.m. ET on Saturday and the Golden Shaheen will be race 6 on the card. We’ll be back with plenty more throughout the week.

[batt33]

Caldera Breeze and Plan Update

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/IMG0395_1743437105682/MP4/IMG0395_1743437105682.mp4

Caldera returned to the work tab at Oaklawn today, breezing a solo five furlongs in 1:01.20.(3/17)

Trainer D. Wayne Lukas has decided to bypass the G1 Blue Grass S. and instead point Caldera to the $200K Bathhouse Row S. at Oaklawn Park going 1 1/8 miles on Apr. 19. That race carries with it an automatic berth into the G1 Preakness S. Rafael Bejarano is booked to ride.

The Blue Grass is coming up a very tough race, and it would be ambitious to try and take on that group of horses on two weeks’ rest off of Caldera’s last outing.

The Bathhouse Row, on the other hand, gives us much better spacing coming out of the Louisiana Derby and should hopefully set Caldera up to be the fresh, new shooter heading into the Preakness if all goes well. It’ll certainly be an easier field, a good spot to let Caldera build his confidence back up, and we also like the idea of running him back at Oaklawn.

We were game to try the Blue Grass if The Coach felt strongly that it was the right move, but we do feel this is a more prudent and realistic path that will hopefully pay off with a stakes win in a few weeks and a big rest of the spring and beyond.

Note that today’s breeze did not really impact the decision—it was decided before the work.

I'm happy with the race change! While the thought of the derby was nice.. It's still better for the horse.

[JBEX]

For a second entering the far turn I thought Wisconsin gal could get in the money!
at sa it looked like Mike and her had a little issue of" getting into stride" Mike put her good position entering the turn and she just got tired."

she (WG)was making a move and just kind of pooped out @ around 60-1..my thought was avg loss in her 3 prior races (all listed stakes) was about 6L and today's loss was by that same amount ..this would make her competitive in a high clm tag n2l race and imo that's where she belongs

only CF (6-1 final) 2nd start, still finding his way and he ran a very even race .. dirt debut wasn't bad and considering that wouldn't be surprised to see him back on it in his next start ..if not vs msw sure he'll get it done at some point vs maiden claimer's

[batt33]

sunday by army mule

oaklawn R9 @ 5:48
#10 wisconsin gal (30-1)

stakes again str..unbelievable!



santa anita R6 @ 6:30
#6 charlie foxtrot (4-1)

For a second entering the far turn I thought Wisconsin gal could get in the money!
at sa it looked like Mike and her had a little issue of" getting into stride" Mike put her good position entering the turn and she just got tired."

[batt33]

Santa Anita Park

1-3-Saint Shelia

They hit r 1 SA $57 win

wow! I need to Google

[brock]

Santa Anita Park

1-3-Saint Shelia

They hit r 1 SA $57 win

[batt33]

Just google ribbits racing longshots. Also have picks for the day's tracks.
Racing dudes free picks is another sight.

All in all, better to handicap the races but I do take a look at their plays
to see if they have a chance.

gotcha

I agree! but I do like to take a look also!

[brock]

All in all, better to handicap the races but I do take a look at their plays
to see if they have a chance.

[brock]

I haven't heard of "ribbits longshots" where is that at?

Just google ribbits racing longshots. Also have picks for the day's tracks.
Racing dudes free picks is another sight.