AMANDA KNOX -- guilty or innocent???

[MilfDriller]

Very well put and concise. Well done.

It may just be that what the prosecution has postulated is mostly accurate. Alcohol, light drugs.... played a sex game... went bad. Only legit conclusion I can come to.

Supposedly Amanda had played a prank on friend(s) before where she got some people to sneak into an apartment wearing ski mask and scare the fvck out of somebody... something along those lines.

Also, I cannot verify that the bruises on the arms is 100% truth...

Btw, sincy Rudy knew the people downstairs and knew they were on vacation... he may have known thru Amanda/bf that only they and Merdth would be home...

Fvck it. I'm just speculating right now.


But your Point #2 goes along w/ everything that keeps pulling it back towards Amanda.

[MilfDriller]

This is the one...


There are overwhelming reasons to think Guede didn't act alone.

[1] He did not lock Meredith's door.

[2] He was not there when the "burglary" was set up.

[3] Prints and DNA evidence not belonging to him were found in the cottage and in Meredith's room.

[4] He did not move the body later. He was somewhere else and his movements after the attack and before the discovery of the body are corroborated.

That's just a thumbnail of the many many reasons we know beyond a reasonable doubt that Guede did not act alone.

I have another question for you since you didn't reply to my question about where you would have begun your investigation upon discovering a body inside a key-locked room with no other point of entry. Maybe you can answer them both at the same time:

What evidence--beyond that accepted by the court for Sollecito's and Knox' guilt--would you find acceptable?

[eastvan09]

Every crime is a jigsaw puzzle.

1) Victim: Victim discovered in her own bed, DNA indicates victim was killed at crime scene.

2) Perpetrator: Rudy; Milf, as you say, we are certain of Rudy's guilt in the rape and murder. He is tied to the crime with hard physical evidence.

Note: If these were the only 2 puzzle pieces, case is open and shut! However we have Amanda + BF...

3) Other players: Potential witnesses/ accomplices; Amanda + Boyfriend behave in an a suspicious manner after the murder. Based on their action and words Amanda & BF are neither 100% innocent or 100% guilty (of something). They are somewhere in between the two extremes. However in many legal systems not guilty does not mean you are 100% innocent. Amanda lived with the victim, Amanda's DNA belongs in common areas of the residence.

4) Patrick: Amanda implicated him under duress during a 13+ hr interrogation. The police remove him from their investigation.

[eastvan09]

Btw, sincy Rudy knew the people downstairs and knew they were on vacation... he may have known thru Amanda/bf that only they and Merdth would be home... Fvck it. I'm just speculating right now. But your Point #2 goes along w/ everything that keeps pulling it back towards Amanda.

This is the one... There are overwhelming reasons to think Guede didn't act alone. [1] He did not lock Meredith's door. [2] He was not there when the "burglary" was set up. [3] Prints and DNA evidence not belonging to him were found in the cottage and in Meredith's room. [4] He did not move the body later. He was somewhere else and his movements after the attack and before the discovery of the body are corroborated. That's just a thumbnail of the many many reasons we know beyond a reasonable doubt that Guede did not act alone. I have another question for you since you didn't reply to my question about where you would have begun your investigation upon discovering a body inside a key-locked room with no other point of entry. Maybe you can answer them both at the same time: What evidence--beyond that accepted by the court for Sollecito's and Knox' guilt--would you find acceptable?

I was so slow typing my other posts and I finished them without noticing your replies. I'm sorry as I would have answered your comments earlier. If Rudy knew everyone downstairs was on vacation and he was debating whether to rape her... this may have led him to rape her, perhaps the subsequent murder was not planned.

You are right on the mark regarding the evidence indicating that Rudy did not act alone. In my last few posts I was focusing merely on Rudy. Now the puzzle tells us that someone else (besides Rudy) covered up the rape and murder that Rudy committed! Why! Did Rudy finish his crime, wake Amanda + BF up from their drunken stupor and force them at knife point to help him cover it up, at threat of harming the two of them? Likely, afterward Rudy left, Amanda + BF would have gone straight to the police and told everything.

What if Rudy did not coerce others to finish *trying* to cover up his crime? Why would they do this of their own free will?

1) "here you would have begun your investigation upon discovering a body inside a key-locked room with no other point of entry."

2) "What evidence--beyond that accepted by the court for Sollecito's and Knox' guilt--would you find acceptable?"

Milf, this are two tough questions. I am thinking out my guesses before answering.

[eastvan09]

Hypothetical answer:

Further to your question #1... Since the perp could did not come in through that window... Perhaps there was no forced entry and he came in through the front door. Did others let the perp in, did the perp know the victim? With no forced entry, the police would assume the victim and perp(s) knew one another.

[eastvan09]

Further to question #2...The court convicted Amanda on a combination of several pieces of (seemingly) circumstantial evidence implicating Amanda + BF of suspicious criminal behavior. The jury was given two options: guilty of murder, not guilty.. right?

Perhaps if the jury was allowed to find Amanda guilty of lesser charges ex: obstruction of justice, perjury, tampering with a crime scene.. then they would have found her not guilty of murder and guilty of the lesser charges. Perhaps the jury felt her strange actions equate to her guilt at some level of a crime.

[MilfDriller]

I think you nailed it right on the head:

'What if Rudy did not coerce others to finish *trying* to cover up his crime? Why would they do this of their own free will?'

That is the crux of everything. Their meddling and involvement had nothing to do with Rudy's interest. The actions they took were to protect themselves.

Given this premise, I'd have to assume that all 3 are involved. And I don't think that just 2 people were involved... as Amanda would immediately cut ties and simply save her own ass. The BF would likely do the same.

So all 3 were somehow involved and they sought to defend their own best interests. Rudy did so by fleeing (sp) and Amanda/BF did so by the false break-in, orchestrating the crime scene, the clean-up...

I'd have to say now that all 3 are guilty. But I can't really say that w/o have true access to the information.

[MilfDriller]

I like these comments:

I’ve been over and over the evidence as presented to the jury in this case. When I first saw the story reported on 48 Hrs, I was outraged, because they reported on her sympathetically and I concluded, as I was meant to, that she was being railroaded (48 Hrs repeated the propaganda as put out by the expensive PR firm her family hired). I then got on the internet and studied the evidence as presented to the jury and read the report put out by the judge in the Guede case and his reasoning for holding Knox and Solicetto over for trial. The evidence against them is OVERWHELMING! DNA evidence, bloody footprints which they had cleaned and were revealed by lumino, lying to the cops and others, being unable to present an alibi, the knife that provided the fatal blow found at the boyfriend’s apartment with the victim’s blood on the blade and Knox’s on the handle, the witness that saw Amanda in his store buying bleach, etc. Heck, when the cops showed up Solicetto and Knox were on the front porch with a mop and bucket!

....
The victim in this case, Meredith Kercher, was a beautiful young woman who was left to drown in her own blood. The murderers took both of her cell phones so she was unable to call for help and left her there to slowly die. Then they came back when she was dead, moved her body, staged a crime scene, and cleaned up the bloody mess. Who would have had motive to return to the crime scene and had known the other 2 roommates would not be back that night? Definitely not Guede. Also, if Guede had retuned to the crime scene to clean and stage, would he had not tried to remove the evidence implicating himself (blood, feces in the toilet). Why would he leave only that evidence. Sounds more to me as if someone was trying to frame him as the lone attacker.

[MilfDriller]

Then they came back when she was dead, moved her body, staged a crime scene, and cleaned up the bloody mess. Who would have had motive to return to the crime scene and had known the other 2 roommates would not be back that night?

[MilfDriller]

Assuming that the above is true and she is guilty, then I'd have to say she some kind of real nutjob.

After she had taken part in the killing of her roommate she....

1. Did cartwheels in the police station
2. Wrote in her email that after completing all of the interrogation that it was time for a well-deserved pizza...
3. Was making out with her boyfriend in front of police at the house of the scene of the crime...

It's almost like it's unreal... so much so that she couldn't be guilty. How does one exhibit such behavior after doing a slice-athon on the neck of one's roommate? Wackjob-weird.... that is a durito-type level of sickness.

[MilfDriller]

Hilarious:

"Even the accused murderess has a better theory to explain the DNA on the knife. Knox wrote in her prison diary: "I think it is possible Raffaele went to Meredith's house, raped her, then killed her and then when he got home, while I was sleeping, he pressed my fingerprints on the knife."

[MilfDriller]

can it be any clearer than this regarding the Afr guy's guilt?

...
What has emerged, and what particularly interests the defence, is that Guede had come into contact with the police at least three times in the weeks leading up to Meredith's murder.
On September 27, 2007 - five weeks before the killing - Perugia bar tender Cristian Tramantano heard a noise downstairs in his home and found Guede wandering around with a large knife. Tramantano recognised Guede from his work in a nightclub.
There was a confrontation between the two, which ended when Guede ran away. On four occasions, Tramantano went to Perugia's central police station to report the break-in, identify Guede as the culprit and to detail how the intruder was armed and threatened him.
On each occasion, he says he was ignored and the police refused to log his complaint.
The following weekend, there was a break-in at an English-speaking nursery school in Milan in which 2,000 euros and a digital camera were stolen. The school owner, Maria Antoinette Salvadori del Prato, reported it to her local police station.
Three weeks later, on Saturday, October 27 - one week before the murder - Mrs Prato arrived at the school early in the morning with a locksmith to replace the front door, only to be confronted by Guede standing in the main entrance.
Police were called and Guede questioned. A stolen laptop, digital camera and ten-inch kitchen knife were found in his backpack.
But instead of being arrested and charged, Guede was merely escorted to Milan central railway station and placed on a train back to Perugia.
In the interim, on the weekend of October 13, there had been a break-in at the office of lawyers Paolo Brocchi and Luigi Palazzoli, in which a firstfloor window was smashed - similar to the break-in at Meredith's house. A computer and other items were stolen.
They were later found in Guede's possession, but he was not arrested or charged.
This series of crimes and the absence of police action has led Knox's defence team to believe Guede may have been an informant being protected by someone in the police force.

[MilfDriller]

this link provides a decent account.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234298/Amanda-Knox-The-troubling-doubts-Foxy-Knoxys-role-Meredith-Kerchers-murder.html

also, I think that the dna evidence and the bf's knife is BS. the Afro guy was taking his knife-act on the road... and I doubt the bf and the Afr guy had a meeting of the minds and said, 'Let's use your knife which you use for your crimes and we'll also use my knife.'

[MilfDriller]

supposedly the judge's report is due in March... where all the evidence will be published

[bettilimbroke999]

One of the probs of a trial by jury rather than computers is that the appearance of the accused is a key component of whether they're convicted or exonerated, a girl needs to appear honest and shy etc (like an angel) if she wants to be found innocent, when she comes off like a celebrating lying whore even if its not direct proof of the crime it will influence the juries decision

We had a woman here in TN that shot her preacher husband in his sleep but she played the shy quiet abused wife role perfectly (acted like a dog thatd been beat too much at all times) and she got like 4 months in jail for first-degree murder, now had she acted like AK she would've prolly gotten a life sentence, that's just the way it is

[eastvan09]

I think you nailed it right on the head: 'What if Rudy did not coerce others to finish *trying* to cover up his crime? Why would they do this of their own free will?' That is the crux of everything. Their meddling and involvement had nothing to do with Rudy's interest. The actions they took were to protect themselves. Given this premise, I'd have to assume that all 3 are involved. And I don't think that just 2 people were involved... as Amanda would immediately cut ties and simply save her own ass. The BF would likely do the same. So all 3 were somehow involved and they sought to defend their own best interests. Rudy did so by fleeing (sp) and Amanda/BF did so by the false break-in, orchestrating the crime scene, the clean-up... I'd have to say now that all 3 are guilty. But I can't really say that w/o have true access to the information.

Again, I will speculate more:
--> Based on the collection of circumstantial evidence, it appears Amanda + Solicetto were trying to cover up the crime and protect their interests. What were Amanda + Solicetto's interests regarding the crime + Guede?

--> (A) Another key question: Were Amanda + Solicetto complicit in the circumstances that led to either the rape, or both the rape and murder. Did they organize a sex game of sorts, and then either Meredith wanted to stop, or Guede was going too far? Perhaps Amanda + Solicetto felt they had to cover up their involvement in setting up the circumstances that led to murder. Perhaps they decided to doctor the crime scene to implicate Rudy as the lone perpetrator of the entire night. (Amanda + Solicetto failed by any measure in their efforts)

--> (B) Were Amanda + Solicetto innocent of involvement in the rape + murder but,... They woke up after the crime was committed and felt guilty about not stopping Rudy? Or perhaps they were worried that the police would assume they HAD to be involved in the rape and murder since they were "in the home" (even if asleep). So they decided to *try* to cover up part of the crime.

[eastvan09]

Milf, I read the story from one of your links.

Another tangent is how people complained about Rudy was committing robberies at knife-point and threatening people. However the police would not log the complaints. If the police had treated all these burglaries seriously, perhaps Rudy would have been in jail. (and the rape and murder would not have ocurred)

[chibears]

guilty

[keyboarding]

--> (B) Were Amanda + Solicetto innocent of involvement in the rape + murder but,... They woke up after the crime was committed and felt guilty about not stopping Rudy? Or perhaps they were worried that the police would assume they HAD to be involved in the rape and murder since they were "in the home" (even if asleep). So they decided to *try* to cover up part of the crime.

Interesting point.

[eastvan09]

Interesting point.

I am brainstorming scenarios that might explain Amanda + Solicetto's guilt... This is such a strange case.

Perhaps Amanda + Solicetto were complicit in the decision to kill the victim after the rape.

[nobs]

Sorry, I just cant look at this case impartially.

Like I said I am from 5 miles from where she is from. And here in the Seattle area all we here is how Amanda is a poor innocent victim who got screwed over because Italians hate Americans. Its Blah Blah poor Amanda all day long. You would think that Amanda is the victim here not Meredith to here people around here tell this story.

I know Rudy was probably the one who did most of this, but I just cant believe Amanda and Her Boyfriend Rafael werent involved in some way. No way you take a shower and do laundry after finding a dead body in your house if you dont have something to hide. Just doing those 2 things is like running down the street screaming "Im Guilty".

And she just lied too much for me to believe she is as innocent as people around here want to make her out to be. I am sure she will never do 26 years, she has done 2 and maybe she will do 5 more max. because I think our gov't has already gotten involved to help out her situation a little.

I doubt she will do more than 5-7 years total when its all said and done, and whatever her involvement in this was she deserves at least that much time.

[Chuck Sims]

Guilty. CBS did a one sided piece that did not cover what this bitch did.

After the murder, Amanda is waiting at a store before they open. She buys two bottles of bleach. The murder scene was cleaned, almost sanitized. Even though Amanda lived there, they could only find one fingerprint of hers.

For 5 days after the murder Amanda stuck to the story that during the murder she was never at the house from the previous night to 10:30 the next morning. When police confronted her with evidence that she was lying, she said she was at the house during the murder and witnessed her friend/bartender rape and murder the girl. The bartender spent 14 days in jail accused of murder. The bartender was cleared and released.

The break-in was staged. The glass from the broken window was laying on top of the dead girls clothes.

The murder weapon was found at her boyfriend's house.

[keyboarding]

The murder weapon was found at her boyfriend's house.

That weapon did not match the wounds found on the body, nor did it match the print of the knife found at the scene.

[MilfDriller]

Man, I keep going back on forth on this shit.

THis bitch is the most evil human being walking the planet (talking serial killer quality) or she is just the most aloof, dumb young person taking in oxygen.

I've been watching her court videos.... and I'm like, 'WTF???!!!' She is giddy and laughing like she's at some relaxed lunch work meeting and everybody is enjoying pizza and a coke. Yet the reality is that her life is on the line and she is on trial for a throat-slashing murder. Just totally, absolutely aloof. Simply fvcking amazing.

[MilfDriller]

I read how she had posted a fiction piece/story about a rape/throat-slashing killing of a girl-on-girl crime.... on her MySpace account. Simply a story she wrote.

Seriously, does it get more fvckign weird than that?

And her bf is a knife-freak and into serial killers.

[MilfDriller]

Also read something comical. They were speculating about the clean-up... and how they had locked the door but had left Meredith's lamp in the room .... so when the 'postal police' stopped by initially they must've been like 'oh fvck, we locked the door and left the lamp in the room' ...

o/c, u could argue that away by saying that she let her use the lamp and lent it to her

[MilfDriller]

I've come to the conclusion that the knife in the bf's residence has basically zero importance. it was not the knife used in the killing.... and since the Afr guy was in the habit of knife-hauling around town... I don't believe that they simulataneously brought 2 knives to the party out of mutual premeditation.

Had he brought the knife beforehand, it would have to be premeditated.... but Amanda didn't know that her boss was going to call off her shift that night... thus freeing her time up. O/c, others had gone on vacation and it allowed a good opportunity... but I highly doubt that she and the bf (who she knew not even a month up to that point), plus some retarded thug (the Afr guy)... would all come together and plan out a killing on her roommate basically instantly.

[MilfDriller]

Amanda's dna on the handle... naturally. Meredith's dna on the knife's tip... minute and cannot be tested again... yet if the knife wasn't even involved in the crime....

perhaps contamination.

[MilfDriller]

It is interesting how neither Amanda or the bf implicate the Afr guy.

Naturally, the thinking is that if they implicate him, he will have no choice but to turn around and implicate them... and he will be forced to tell the truth... So they're ironically protecting each other.

[MilfDriller]

I must say that I am literally blown away by actual footage of Amanda. If she did take part in the killings and cover up, she is absolutely the most brilliant, incredible actress I have ever seen. Truly amazing.

It is not easy to reconcile the videos of her with the vile actions that took place. And that has nothing to do with her class, race, economics, whatever. It is the delivery of her performance... I mean, it is absolutely perfect. True genius. It's like she could rob a bank, walk out of the bank casually, walk up to a cop a block down the street and have a nice calm conversation with him... then just walk on by.

[MilfDriller]

question and answers.... theories...

Still looking for in understanding RG movements on the 2nd nov. Why did AK &RS do the clean up while RG went off dancing?
Why does RG get an alibi of being out dancing?
I find it hard to understand how they all came to this arrangement, it doesn't seem to make sense.

When did RG leave town? Was it the next day, or later?


Hi Angelstop. It was later, because Rudy was dancing in the Perugian night clubs the next night as well.

As for Rudy, he simply fled the crime scene. It was the other two that decided on the cleaning job, independently of Rudy. Rudy wasn't in on either the discussion of a clean-up or the event.


Call me sceptical but this doesn't seem to fit. 3 people who don't know each other that well, commit murder on the spur of the moment and then just split up and don't worry about it? Something would have been said or agreed between them all. If AK & RS wanted to set up RG why did AK put Patrick in the frame?
What spooked RG to leave, did they sAy they framed him? If so why didn't they go through with it? Is this what RS meant when he said RG may make up strange things?
I just can't get a grip on how they left it. You wouldn't just walk away and hope would you. No they either had or still do have an agreed plan, or they all weren't involved. That's why I see this as important to understand.
Do you exactly when RG left town? It would be useful to place it with AK & RS visits to the police. Did hey meet up and discuss it before he left town? Maybe that could explain why Patrick was used.
I just can't get my head round this bit

A big Hi to all the new folks tonight who have actually contributed in a positive way to the discussion here. I have been treated most warmly and respectfully here as a newcomer and the level of discourse has been absolutely engrossing. I hope you will find it so also.

So, ignoring for the minute how the crime came to take place and dealing with the aftermath, we start with bloodchilling scream that was heard by at least two witnesses. Then one witness hears multiple people running away immediately after in at least two different directions, another witness comes face to face with Rudy leaving the scene. Scared the sound of Meredith's dying scream will summon the police they have all fled, leaving the outer door flapping in the breeze. The vagrant Cortolo spots RS and AK again behaving strangely in the basketball court rail from which you can look down upon the cottage gate. Their heads are together, they are discussing something heatedly, he cannot hear what. They leave, instead of going towards him in the park, they disappear down the stair towards the cottage again. I believe they waited until certain no police had been called.

They are already contriving their plan. At this point they know that RG has fled and will not return, why would he? But the cottage door is wide open and evidence of their involvement is perhaps spread throughout MK's room. They have decided to return to the house and stage the crime to frame RG as acting alone. They do a surprisingly good job, but they make critical mistakes, some logical as in the glass from the broken window being inside the room on top of clothing strewn about, others through being unfamiliar with how thoroughly forensic investigation can reveal cleaned up evidence, and finally other mistakes caused because they were interrupted before they were finished with their cleanup. I'm fairly certain they planned to get rid of the bloody bathmat, and it was certainly an error that they locked MKs room before first removing AK's lamp, leaving the cord sticking out from under the door into the hallway. They had all night long to script their morning plan which would have involved much more carefully scripted phone calls made in the correct order to Filomena, AKs mother, MKs cell phones, the police and others. They didn't get this chance and made their greatest mistakes after being forced to rush these activities when the telecom police arrived too early to stay true to their planning.

I don't think they planned to frame Rudy Guede. I think they planned to frame "an intruder" - whom of course they did not know, had never met and gosh, gee whiz, wasn't AK lucky she wasn't the one who was at home that night! At some point after Nov 2nd they would be aware that RG had fled Italy, I read somewhere that AK and others were made aware that the hair from a black man had been found in MKs hand. Perhaps they planted it, but whether they did or not, AK was made aware that the police were seeking a black man.

Patrick had just fired AK from the sophisticated and social job of serving drinks in his bar, and coincidentally just given that same job to Meredith. He was black, she was very resentful and angry at him and then there were the phone messages to and from him on that night. I think when confronted by police interrogators on Nov 5th, and told that RS was no longer providing her an alibi she switched to Plan B. After only 1 hour and 45min of questioning (not 53.. lol) she contrives a story that places the only other black man she knew in the role of perpetrator, whom she just happened to also be angry at, so she could punish yet another victim in one contrived story that she was well aware she could deny later on - after the damage was already done. She accomplished what she needed in that moment - to deflect attention from herself to give her more room to think.

Knowing the RG had fled Italy, she might have hoped that his DNA and fingerprints were not on file and that he would Never be identified. Her story would be found to be false as of course Patrick would have an alibi. As soon as he would be proven not to have been involved, and therefore neither was she, then all that attention on her would be dropped. She could claim it had all been a horrible imagining forced into her brain by the "abuse" she claimed to have suffered at the hands of the police while being interrogated. And of course she would be believed because the forensics would not match Patrick thereby proving her total non-involvement. Unfortunately for her, they found RG. This was not her plan -I'm certain of it. In fact catching RG was the worst thing to happen to her plan because he could deny the lone wolf scheme and would be aware that they had doctored the crime scene to frame only him.

So anyway, long shpiel.. They both framed RG because they never thought he would be identified, and AK framed Patrick to punish him and because once his innocence was proven she expected to be exonerated along with him. This would explain why she did not herself tell her lawyers or the authorities that she knew she was wrong about Patrick.. She Needed them to figure it out themselves.

[MilfDriller]

replly to the above....



Thank you for this, very interesting and it does answer a lot of gaps that I feel need to be filled, but it is still a matter of timing.
It would seem that their story was to make it look like a break in that went wrong, and that this was interrupted earlier than they had hoped by the Postal police’s arrival. They returned with the mop and bucket, which they had cleaned at RS’s, but were found outside with it. The unexpected arrival of the police certainly stopped the completion of the clear up. And this is the reason for the locked door – the door was simply locked so that no one else returning would enter whilst they were away from the house, in between the clearup sessions.
So that leaves, what did they still have to clear up? The bath mat, lamp, and maybe further prints they felt they may have missed, and of course the remains in the toilet. I have always found it hard to understand why so much emphasis was put on this by AK & RS – It wasn’t meant to be there, they knew what it was, but anyone in the middle of a break in who happens to go to the toilet is highly unlikely!
Why would an intruder lock the door during a break in? Not the normal thing to do, it was just part of the unfinished clean up, but where was the key, to get back into the room when AK & RS returned? Did they at that point still have it in their possession, and dispose it later.
Returning to the night time cleanup though. The murder took place; they fled in panic and split up. RG went off to create his own alibi by being seen out all through the night, leaving AK and RS with the problem. They then decide to return and set it up to look like RG broke in. Did they then tell RG this at some point later, which made him flee? This would be answer as to why RS became fearful on RG’s capture. AK on the other hand was sticking to the ‘I was with RS all night’ story.
I don’t agree with the blaming Patrick scenario though, I think this was just blind panic of AK being put on the spot whilst being interviewed. They had been gathering information on all the calls that had been made, and wanted to piece this together. It was the change in RS’s story that led them to AK and the Patrick call. AK knew what happened and who was involved, I think there was no plan to blame Patrick, just cracking under pressure. She then sat on this, while the police put the real story together. AK with family and lawyers quickly went down the ’14 hours of torture’ route to explain everything, which has been the hardest truth to crack. AK seems to be on a constant path of deflection, and both of the have a consistent approach of changing story as evidence appears.
RG’s escape to Germany was a very weak escape plan, Europe is small and very integrated, and he would not have been able to hide for long, RS would know this, but maybe not an American, again adding to RS’s fear. The evidence was clear against RG; he had information from the press as to what was happening and what had been said. He knew he had been sold down the river, so why not pass the blame back and tell the truth?
Not the brightest button RG is he, he thought in telling a garbled version of what happened would be enough to lay the blame back where it belonged, except he was involved and his poor attempt at the truth made him seem like he was making it all up. This and his choice for a quick and lenient process was his mistake, and the best news for AK & RS.
I still am left with the question, when did RG leave town, and could he have met up with AK & RS before this. There is good information on this board as to their movements but not on his.

[MilfDriller]

what kind of dumb bitch wears a shirt like this in the trial of your life?

[MilfDriller]

[MilfDriller]

"The next day, February 14, Knox appeared in court wearing wore a T-shirt with the Beatles lyric 'All you need is love' in pink letters on the front."