AMANDA KNOX -- guilty or innocent???

[MilfDriller]

Amanda's performance in court... she is either a cold-blooded, heartless killer or simply innocent.

If she is guilty, I simply cannot get over her incredible performance. The best actor in the world could not give such a performance.

[MilfDriller]

more from the diary...

I seemed to receive a gust of spring air in a huge room dark and cold.
Already the prison is not a nice experience, above all because the
first times they slam me in cell isolation closed and locked with a
thread of light that passed through the window, for hours without
having the slightest sign that anyone could know that you are there,
not a sound, not a hiss, just the squeak of your shoes on a floor full
of dust and cockroaches and you that pass the time walking up and down
scared and you think, you think for so so long, you sit, look through
the cracks of the window and pray that the truth comes out, searching
to remember ...

Why is he complaining about the cockroaches? That's free food. What a pussy.

[MilfDriller]

more diary

Nov 20 2007
(Raffaele opens the page diary on November 20 with a conviction for
him decisive) today finally they have taken the real murderer of this
story from beyond belief. It is an Ivorian of 22 years, they have
found him in Germany. Papa I saw happy and smiling, but I for the
moment am not calm 100% because I fear that he will invent strange
things. There is the cook of the canteen who is black and kindly asked
me why I am not released. Well the reason is simple: there are my
footprints by the house and therefore from this story can always get
out coups de theatre: don't support them! Like Meredith's DNA on the
kitchen knife from my house. It comes to me, the tachicardia (medical
condition, heart beating too fast) and I remain unwell. It makes me
happy that I have many supporters everywhere. I await with patience my
future; at times it frightens me, we know who could really expect
anything. Life is a road long and dark , but I haven't lost hope.
After the storm there is the rainbow. Strength Raf! One of the
giovinazzesi; one of them, one of them!

[MilfDriller]

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[MilfDriller]

that's the bf.

anyways, the media gets a hold of these pics..... 'knife, bleach, suit' ... and shit then spreads like wildfire

for some reason I am gravitating towards 'innocent'.

[MilfDriller]

guilty.. of this I have no doubt

[MilfDriller]

looks like his hands could do the job.

[MilfDriller]

antyhing wrong w/ this pic?

[MilfDriller]

'let's go in the house. anyone up for some slashing?' ... quote has not been verified

[MilfDriller]

let's flash some gang signs.... or is it '3 people involved in the murder' ....???


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[MilfDriller]

'Where did I put my knife,' wonders Amanda.

[MilfDriller]

I don't know why this Italian chick came up in the search, but she appears to want the inches.


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[MilfDriller]

the bf... w/ some she-beasts

[MilfDriller]

'When Harry met Potter'

[MilfDriller]

Another rambling about the shit in the toilet.

The shit was definitely taken BEFORE the murder. Given this info, it means that the Afr guy was let into the house by Meredith and/or Amanda/the bf. It would seem highly unlikely that he snuck into the house w/ Meredith totally unaware... and then he plops down a shit.... and then, w/o wiping, proceeds to then rape and kill Meredith.

And obviously, it would make no sense for the Afr guy to clean some of the scene... but leave his big plop of shit in the toilet.

[MilfDriller]

This looks to be good. More on this in a bit:

[poker_dummy101]

Another rambling about the shit in the toilet.

The shit was definitely taken BEFORE the murder. Given this info, it means that the Afr guy was let into the house by Meredith and/or Amanda/the bf. It would seem highly unlikely that he snuck into the house w/ Meredith totally unaware... and then he plops down a shit.... and then, w/o wiping, proceeds to then rape and kill Meredith.

And obviously, it would make no sense for the Afr guy to clean some of the scene... but leave his big plop of shit in the toilet.

this is pretty important to me

[MilfDriller]

Don't know if this is true or not.... but want to put this in there.

The problem for Raffaele is that Amanda is a liability for his defense. The knife, the footprints, the clean up(Amanda's early morning visit to the cottage without him and two empty bottles of bleach in his rubbish bin).

[MilfDriller]

Finally a theory that makes sense.

The solution is that Meredith wasn't on her knees constrained by someone else behind. One only assailant was controlling her in front, made her sit down or get into a similar position and that's when he hit and made her fall down on her back. So the blood could first spurt on the closet and in the air, and immediately after, when she was already lying down, the drops fell back on her naked chest.
This dynamic is coherent with the presence of the deep bruise to the nape, which otherwise couldn't be explained.
(And indeed the UACV didn't include it in their explanation)

[MilfDriller]

If Amanda was totally uninvolved in the murder she would not have said any contradictions. She would have sticked to the truth that she knows, even if she did not remember everything – because there is only one truth.
But when you are guilty you do not know exactly what will incriminate you and what would save you. So giving your answers becomes a bit slower and the police will notice this and pressure you because they know that you are trying to find an answer instead of saying what you know. If you are telling everything that you know you will have the answer ready for every question. If you are telling lies then you have to be careful if the next answer will conflict with your previous one.
Surly if you are totally uninvolved you would not incriminate someone else. It is not in your interest.

[MilfDriller]

That Raf has changed his story at least twice is a 'fact', that Amanda has changed her story at least twice, is a 'fact', that they still do not match in any of their detail is a 'fact'. That there was 'no' mention in Amanda's defence of Raf giving her an alibi is a 'fact'. That the prosecution do not 'need' AK and RS is a 'fact'.

My posts are full of 'facts', you may not like them, but they are straight facts all the same.

[MilfDriller]

""Reconstructing the events I think she [Knox] was with me but I can't quite remember if she left me for a few minutes early on that evening … My recollections are confused because we smoked so much dope."

from Raffaele Sollecito's prison diary

[MilfDriller]

lol at the gangbanging killer...


“I had a date with Mez that night.”, said Rudy.

This was contradicted during the investigation; all Meredith’s friends said that the two did not meet each other on Oct31 and Mez never spoke about such a meeting with them, When the police reconstructed, minute by minute, what the victim did the evening before she died, he ‘remembered’ and admitted that he didn’t have a date with her.


however, he is correct in that he had a date with her.. to slash her throat and rape her. what a fvcking thug

[MilfDriller]

this is interesting

The prosection would like to prove that Amanda and Raffaele were at the flat at the time that the murder occurred. They cannot.

The prosecution would like to prove that Amanda and Raffaele had a motive They cannot.

No murder weapon was ever found.

Amanda and Raffaele say that they were together the whole night. The train girl actually places them at Raf's at one point mid-evening. If Rudy is found guilty, his accusations will not be believed.

A number of people were in proximity and have no alibi, and were living a commonplace lifestyle of sleeping with their significant others, drinking in pubs, and smoking dope. Amanda and Raf don't stand out, but were seen out in the cold the next day gasp! kissing.

When they thought that she was a suspect, negative remarks were made, yet right after the crime, no one thought of Amanda and Raf at all as possible suspects. Not Patrick, Filomena, Laura, Giacomo, Amy, Sophie, Robyn, Mez's family, Filomena's mother, the barenders in town...no, only when tainted by hearing it said, hearing of the 'vison' statements did all the negatives get said, the "I thought it strange" stuff. Much later, the police need to use Toto and the Albanian, who are merely the kinds of people who come out of the woodwork in any investigation. Those are the facts hidden by the prosecutor for a very long time.

[MilfDriller]

Alright! Here it goes! Ive been following this case and this blog for some time now. I've always held back on tried to get as much info as possible and tried not to pay attention to the useless bickering that seems to dominate most of these posts. But I just cant hold my tounge anymore. Wanna know what I think. Well, too bad, here it is. RUDY GUEDE KILLED MEREDITH KERCHER! RUDY GUEDE ALONE! I know what about to hear, how I don't know everything and I don't know all the "facts", what ever the hell that means, or I'm an arrogant American who's in the employ of the Knox family. Here's what I think happened, real short, real sweet. Rudy Guede was there to rob the apartment. I think he knew there would be no one home that night because he knew the guys down stairs. I think MK came home early and caught him. He tried to subdue her and she fough back. Either it was an accident or deliberate, her cut her throat and killed her. He paniked. He grabbed the cash from her purse and fled. Then he split town. There it is. Plain and simple. I know this idea seems completly far fetched when the alternative is the theory that 3 total strangers got together, smoked a joint, read a manga comic, and then decided to kill one of their roomates in a Satanic sex orgy. Heres something else I think. Amanda Knox and RS are innocent. Yeah thats right. Innocent. I'm even more astounded at the amount of bile that has been vomited at Amanda Knox. Where is the outrage at RUDY GUEDE?? He killed that girl, and what are you people stuck on? Amanda Knox. The guy who left his DND all over the room, and even admits to being there

[MilfDriller]

I did not know about the call to her mother. Just speculating here... but maybe he broke the window... came in that way, then hid in Meredith's closet as she entered the house.

Rudy Guede was there to rob the apartment. I think he knew there would be no one home that night because he knew the guys down stairs. I think MK came home early and caught him. He tried to subdue her and she fough back. Either it was an accident or deliberate, her cut her throat and killed her. He paniked. He grabbed the cash from her purse and fled. Then he split town. There it is. Plain and simple.

I think you're very close. But between the time she got home and the time she was attacked, she called her mother. I think he lurked while she made that call, and during that time he got the idea of raping her. She fought back hard, he couldn't control her, and he inflicted a fatal wound.

[MilfDriller]

There is a very important question of the staged robbery.

Guede left enough of his DNA (including that in the toilet!) and his fingerprints in Meredith's blood all over the place. If he couldn't be bothered to flush the toilet, he obviously did not try to remove any other evidence of his presence at the scene and it makes absolutely no sense to think that he is the one who staged a robbery.

After all, it is not essential in his case how he entered the cottage.

A person who would stage a robbery/forced entry is someone who had accsess, i.e. an insider wanting to deflect suspicion.

That is, imho, one element which places Knox firmly at the scene.

[MilfDriller]

Obviously, a robber doesn't have to make an effort to create a robbery scene, it is automatically created.

To think that he wanted to mask the robbery by rape is nonsense and even more nonsense is to think that he wastes his time to clean the bathroom.

[brooks85]

O, that is a presumable accusation but no. You are out of the game.

[MilfDriller]

Very good pt about Amanda going to the house in the morning..


"Amanda Knox went there on her own."

Clearly, if we suppose that one of the two committed the murder with the other also being there, then Amanda is much more probable.

It is hard to imagine that she would have gone there alone, had RS been the murderer.

[MilfDriller]

This is a good one. It does seem absolutely ridiculous that, instead of taking a shower at her bf's place in the morning, she decides to treck all the way back to her place to take a shower...



I believe that originally Sollecito did say that Knox had gone out on the night of the murder and returned round 1 a.m. His statement did change afterwards and I don't know what the current version is.

It has never been disputed that Knox went to the cottage once on her own in the morning to take a shower there (which in itself is strange, in my experience people tend to take a shower and breakfast where they wake up, even stranger is that she did take a shower in a house where there were traces of blood about). If he too was involved in the crime of the previous night (as I said, I believe that she definitely was and that she was the insider who staged a robbery) and they planned to go back in the morning and "discover" the break-in, there was no need for her to go there first on her own, they could have gone together and "discovered" the crime.

However, she went there on her own and than she went back to fetch him. Only then she tried to reach other people, Meredith and Filomena.

Wouldn't it be logical to call Filomena immediately/very soon on having discovered the mess in her room?

I have probably not followed this case as closely as some other people who post here, so please excuse my writing things that might have been discussed in great detail already.

Yet, it strikes me that Sollecito could not have been involved in the crime without Knox, whereas she could have been a perpetrator without him knowing anything about it.

[MilfDriller]

Wow. This right here fvcking NAILS Amanda Knox. W-O-W!

There are records WHEN Knox called Filomena, and that was not on arriving to the cottage with its front door open, not on noticing traces of blood, not on noticing the mess in Filomena's room, not on noticing that Meredith's room was locked, not on noticing that the toilet was full of faeces (most people would automatically flush it, obviously unless one knew that it was part of a crime scene), not before she showered and not before went to fetch Sollecito. Knox called Filomena only then. I wonder why. (Knox and Filomena spoke three times and only in their third conversation Knox mentioned the state of Filomena's room and she lied to Filomena that she had called the police.)

[MilfDriller]

Are we to believe that he didn't throw away his 'murder clothes' away til he got to Germany?

Well, he had blood all over them them when 'he tried to help Meredith' (according to him). He stripped them off and changed when he got home. Then, when he went to Germany he threw them away...somewhere.

The gangbanger makes me laugh. He travelled all the way to Italy with his bloody murder clothes. Lmfao.

[MilfDriller]

The knife. The first problem with the knife is that it was placed in a plastic bag, although it should have been placed in a cloth bag. The second problem with the knife is that it had no blood. The signers of the petition have argued that it is unlikely one could remove one with out removing the other. I find it plausible on the basis of simple chemical arguments that detergent would remove both and that bleach would destroy both.

The third problem with the knife is that the signal-to-noise ratio might have led the investigators to conclude that DNA could not reliably be said to be there. There seems to be no universal agreement at which signal-to-noise threshhold to reject a peak. A criterion recommended by one manufacturer of the relevant equipment recommends treating peaks below 150 RFUs (relative fluorescence units) with caution, and the most relaxed of which I am aware is to accept peaks above 40 RFUs. The signal-to-noise ratios for all 29 peaks fall below about 100 RFU in the electropherogram of the knife. Of the 29 peaks, 16 fall below 40 RFU. The more stringent the standard, the lower the chance of mistaking signal for random noise.