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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #491
    Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #492
      Originally posted by patsfan2727
      come on dude, system goes 0-4 and you want to back it still? the "coin flip" system would have worked better.
      So what does 0-4 mean? The long term is all that matters and this system has won in every sport the last two seasons plus this one.
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      • roasthawg
        SBR MVP
        • 11-09-07
        • 2990

        #493
        Originally posted by patsfan2727
        come on dude, system goes 0-4 and you want to back it still? the "coin flip" system would have worked better.
        Lol, 0-4 is not that big a deal. A 53% winner ats will have plenty of 0-4 streaks...nothing to get worked up about.
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        • patsfan2727
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-28-07
          • 579

          #494
          Sharps = only in their minds....
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          • smitch124
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 05-19-08
            • 12566

            #495
            if you can get 25-17-1 consistently, they will shut down the sportsbooks in vegas when you walk in the front door...
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            • roasthawg
              SBR MVP
              • 11-09-07
              • 2990

              #496
              Originally posted by patsfan2727
              how can you justify a name such as LT profits when a majority of your records in multiple sports are below .500??? I created my own thread so I don't have to argue with any of you halfwits any longer. Admit it, you are trying to create a system because you failed at picking games right. You are all collectively doing way too much over-analysis that leads you to bet on crappy teams like the raiders and the cardinals (both on the road). your "system" comes down to picking the side everyone thinks will lose. since October 11th, the RLM record is:

              NBA 11-8
              NCAABB 14-9-1
              NCAAF 5-5-1
              NFL 3-3

              So, in NFL and NCAAF, your system has LOST money over the last 2 months. and in NBA and NCAAB, it is collectively 25-17-1, 8 wins over .500

              WOW what a system! what are you guys doing with all that bank???
              25-17-1 is a profitable record and something to be proud of in sports gambling. I don't do rlm but I wish I picked winners at a 60% clip.
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              • patsfan2727
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-28-07
                • 579

                #497
                why would you go to a sportbook? bet online. more line choices, plus you can bet in your PJ's
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                • patsfan2727
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-28-07
                  • 579

                  #498
                  Retards Losing Money
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                  • roasthawg
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-09-07
                    • 2990

                    #499
                    Originally posted by patsfan2727
                    I could probably go 60% if I trailed some of the real sharps on this site. but what the hell is the point of that?
                    The point is making money.
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                    • Robust
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-13-08
                      • 3254

                      #500
                      Originally posted by patsfan2727
                      I'd be more proud if I actually picked winners at a 60% CLIP as opposed to following some contrived system.

                      I could probably go 60% if I trailed some of the real sharps on this site. but what the hell is the point of that? 2 seasons ago in the NFL I was up +140 units and you know what system I used? I picked the side I liked better. crazy, right?
                      read ALL the posts.. someone such as yourself was posting the same things.. then they bet RLM.. guess what happened? read to find out..

                      If you don't like this type of betting strategy, thats fine.. but to call it worthless or worse than flipping a coin makes you sound like a moron.

                      Robust
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                      • patsfan2727
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-28-07
                        • 579

                        #501
                        RLM = pick the raiders every week
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                        • patsfan2727
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-28-07
                          • 579

                          #502
                          the outcome of the game is not known until 0:00
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                          • roasthawg
                            SBR MVP
                            • 11-09-07
                            • 2990

                            #503
                            Originally posted by patsfan2727
                            uh, I have this crazy thing I do all day, its called a JOB. I bet recreationally for side money, and if I lose, I lose. if I win, its a nice bonus. Not to rip on anybody in particular, but if you bet professionally for a living and you are winning at a 55-60% clip, THAT IS NOT GOOD!!!! If you win profit 5% of whatever you bet, you are making bank if your bankroll is $100,000 (5% = $5000) but seriously, if you have $100,000 I'm pretty sure there are like 25 other endeavors you could invest that money in to make a profit over 5%. If you are a professional bettor, I woudn't consider you successful unless you hit at 70% or more. 55% is ok for a part-time recreational bettor, period.
                            You do understand that that 5% can be earned if far less than a year if you hit 55% of your plays in sports gambling right? 5% roi in a month is a lot more impressive than 5% roi in a year.
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                            • gizmo2431
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 01-11-08
                              • 971

                              #504
                              Originally posted by patsfan2727
                              come on dude, system goes 0-4 and you want to back it still? the "coin flip" system would have worked better.
                              I don't think so... I don't use the system, but I understand it and acknowledge it. I just think that if you are serious about betting you would both understand, acknowledge, and NOT bash it. Knowledge is power IMO, and you seem to have complete disregard because of 4 plays you claim.
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                              • patsfan2727
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-28-07
                                • 579

                                #505
                                Las Vegas knows as much as you do
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                                • roasthawg
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-09-07
                                  • 2990

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by patsfan2727
                                  I thought everyone's argument on here was that it made 5-10% OVER THE LONG RUN??? which one is it dude? I can make 4% in a year investing in a savings account, with ZERO CHANCE of a loss. why would I want to invest in a system that guarantees a max of 5-10% with a chance of losing 10% or more? this whole system is a mind game, simple as that. if you fell into it, I feel sorry for you. if you are really betting money on it, I feel even worse for you!
                                  Did you read my post above?? A savings account pays 5% over an entire year...sports gambling can yield 5% in a single day. If your betting say 1/20 of your bankroll every play then you'd expect to gain 5% every 20 bets...that amount of bets can be made in a couple of days time. If you're then in turn betting your profits and compounding your return you can really generate a ton of money if you consistently win around 55% of your bets.
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                                  • patsfan2727
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-28-07
                                    • 579

                                    #507
                                    there is no correlation between RLM and wins
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                                    • patsfan2727
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 10-28-07
                                      • 579

                                      #508
                                      RLM is lame
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                                      • roasthawg
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-09-07
                                        • 2990

                                        #509
                                        Originally posted by patsfan2727
                                        yes, I understand your post above. I teach mathematics, so you don't need to explain to me exponential growth, etc. obviously if you start with $5000 and go up 5% you are up to $5250, and if you go up 5% from there you're at $5515, etc.
                                        but that is assuming you are constantly winning 5% of your bets, weekly. RLM will have to have a SICK RUN this week to overcome a 0-4 night, no???
                                        You teach math yet you are unimpressed with a sports gambler that hits 55% of his bets??? In fact, you would only view a professional gambler as "successful" if he could hit 70% of his bets routinely.
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                                        • patsfan2727
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 10-28-07
                                          • 579

                                          #510
                                          my new screen name PatsFanProfits
                                          my record?
                                          23-88 -55.24 units

                                          please try my system!
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                                          • LT Profits
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-27-06
                                            • 90963

                                            #511
                                            The best gamblers in the world that bet signigficant volume only win around 56% of the time in foots/hoops, anyone claiming a higher win rate is full of shit.
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                                            • The_Kid
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-09-08
                                              • 5049

                                              #512
                                              Why do you have to be so argumentative, patsfan? We're not here to create controversy. We're here to give ideas and help each other out. I don't see the reason for you arguing against something that has been shown to be successful. Let this post be and stop showing up only when the RLM plays lose.
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                                              • patsfan2727
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-28-07
                                                • 579

                                                #513
                                                I don't even know why I'm arguing with people who wouldnt understand the math if I did it in front of them. keep betting your " fishy lines" and your stupid 1 pt line moves. I will be actually handicapping while you guys are grasping at straws.
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                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                  • 12144

                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by patsfan2727
                                                  I don't even know why I'm arguing with people who wouldnt understand the math if I did it in front of them. keep betting your " fishy lines" and your stupid 1 pt line moves. I will be actually handicapping while you guys are grasping at straws.
                                                  One thing is certain. You are no handicapper and no math in the world would support your "theories."
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                                                  • patsfan2727
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 10-28-07
                                                    • 579

                                                    #515
                                                    one thing is certain: I have DOUBLED my bankroll in the last month. another thing is certain, your maximum education in mathematics probably ended when you coudln't pass Algebra in high school. you didn't even make a point with this last post. fail.

                                                    oh and by the way, doubling your roll equates to increasing your bankroll by 100%. thats really cool that you guys are up 5% though. rock on! dont spend that 5% all at once!
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                                                    • patsfan2727
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-28-07
                                                      • 579

                                                      #516
                                                      MoneyFocker - I dont think that I ever put forth any "theories" just the theory that your "system" is a joke. I've been successful betting sports for over 4 years now....just as much of a handicapper as anyone else on this site. What were you doing 4 years ago? junior prom?
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                                                      • MonkeyF0cker
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-12-07
                                                        • 12144

                                                        #517
                                                        No one is implying that this is the only method of handicapping one should implement, genius. And I would certainly challenge you to an aptitude test in mathematics at any price you name. Congratulations on your recent success. However, I fear it is very short lived if you haven't the sense to realize that a month of success in sports handicapping does not provide a sample size nearly large enough to guage the long term success of said handicapper. Carry on in ignorance, my friend.
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                                                        • patsfan2727
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-28-07
                                                          • 579

                                                          #518
                                                          Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                          No one is implying that this is the only method of handicapping one should implement, genius. And I would certainly challenge you to an aptitude test in mathematics at any price you name. Congratulations on your recent success. However, I fear it is very short lived if you haven't the sense to realize that a month of success in sports handicapping does not provide a sample size nearly large enough to guage the long term success of said handicapper. Carry on in ignorance, my friend.
                                                          HATER!!!
                                                          I notice you didn't argue the Junior Prom point!
                                                          If my job was to be a pro capper and I was only making 5% I would find a new career.
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                                                          • MonkeyF0cker
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 06-12-07
                                                            • 12144

                                                            #519
                                                            A hater says congratulations? It's really a shame this place has become so littered with clueless dumbfvcks like you. If you can't comprehend that this is a PORTION of handicapping, NOT ITS ENTIRETY, then you are truly beyond pabulum.
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                                                            • Capybara
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-17-08
                                                              • 11803

                                                              #520
                                                              Hmm, let's see, who would be right in this argument? Patsfan, or EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON WHO'S POSTED IN THIS THREAD???

                                                              Dude, come on -- you've got every single bettor against you... from probably occasional bettors to serious hardcore guys who've been doing it for 5 year, 10 years, 20 years, whatever. LET IT GO....

                                                              And anyway, you never responded when people asked you why you're trying to start so much s--t? This is like the one thread in here that was cool because it was free of name-calling and arguing and immaturity and was strictly about betting strategy and results. So PLEASE leave it ALONE and go start s--t in another thread, okay? THANKS!!

                                                              Oh, and stop making us Pats fans look bad!!!! Everybody already hates us!!
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                                                              • McRich
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 10-26-07
                                                                • 961

                                                                #521
                                                                I am on OK City and 76ers tonight for RLM.

                                                                OK City +13 and 76ers +8
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                                                                • smitch124
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 05-19-08
                                                                  • 12566

                                                                  #522
                                                                  you're not doing NHL McRich?
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                                                                  • Capybara
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 08-17-08
                                                                    • 11803

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Damn, I was so busy catching up on this thread and then replying to it that I missed out on the early games... guess I'd have been OK City. Oh well, good luck to those on board! I'll be on the Sixers later for sure.
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                                                                    • McRich
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 10-26-07
                                                                      • 961

                                                                      #524
                                                                      Originally posted by smitch124
                                                                      you're not doing NHL McRich?
                                                                      No, it's the one sport that I do not really follow. I need to start looking at the lines though.
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                                                                      • smitch124
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-19-08
                                                                        • 12566

                                                                        #525
                                                                        well just for tracking purposes the Canucks were a play at about +150
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