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  • LT Profits
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-27-06
    • 90963

    #876
    Only consider the movement of the team you are looking to play on. So if you want 20-cent movement, Florida would NOT qualify with an 18-cent move. The fact that the more popular team (the opponent) moved over 20 cents is irrelevant.
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    • Richkas
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-03-08
      • 19396

      #877
      Flip a coin

      GL and God Bless
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      • smitch124
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-19-08
        • 12566

        #878
        Originally posted by LT Profits
        Only consider the movement of the team you are looking to play on. So if you want 20-cent movement, Florida would NOT qualify with an 18-cent move. The fact that the more popular team (the opponent) moved over 20 cents is irrelevant.
        I have a hard time deciding what book to use to decide how far the line has moved. It seems to me that Pinnacle always starts the dogs a little higher than the other books for the NHL. Have you found that to be true LT?
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        • FreeFall
          SBR MVP
          • 02-20-08
          • 3365

          #879
          Originally posted by LT Profits
          Only consider the movement of the team you are looking to play on. So if you want 20-cent movement, Florida would NOT qualify with an 18-cent move. The fact that the more popular team (the opponent) moved over 20 cents is irrelevant.
          That makes Tampa Bay Lightening a play then right?

          Thanks again for the help!
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #880
            Originally posted by FreeFall
            That makes Tampa Bay Lightening a play then right?

            Thanks again for the help!
            Well I see exactly 10 cent move on TB (+195 to +185 at Pinny), so I would want one more cent.
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            • FreeFall
              SBR MVP
              • 02-20-08
              • 3365

              #881
              Originally posted by LT Profits
              Well I see exactly 10 cent move on TB (+195 to +185 at Pinny), so I would want one more cent.
              Thanks a lot LT. This also helps prepare me for MLB. You have been the most helpful person here with sharing knowledge and insight.
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              • yisman
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-01-08
                • 75682

                #882
                do you mean exactly 19 cents?
                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                [/quote]

                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                • Capybara
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-17-08
                  • 11803

                  #883
                  Hey Guys, look what's back -- the RLM thread!! Some will surely be delighted, others annoyed.

                  Anyway, I wanted to summon the old RLM braintrust to discuss baseball... MLB wasn't going on when we started this discussion I think, so I wanted people's thoughts on how useful it is for MLB, and how to best use it.

                  Let's hear from y'all... LT, others, step to the plate... Thanks.

                  -Capy
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                  • yisman
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-01-08
                    • 75682

                    #884
                    never used it. I'm sure LT does, though!
                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                    [/quote]

                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                    • dmolition
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 10-10-08
                      • 106

                      #885
                      Been tracking RLM but its not doing so hot this first 3 weeks of MLB, mostly dog plays and visitors so that maybe why (eg OAKLAND against NYY is one case). Would like to hear anyone else experience trying it on MLB so far.
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                      • xyzky
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-23-07
                        • 1577

                        #886
                        Is anybody having any luck with it during this baseball season?
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                        • mathdotcom
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-24-08
                          • 11689

                          #887
                          Why don't you guys just pick winners?
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                          • yisman
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-01-08
                            • 75682

                            #888
                            huge movement on Cheats/Jets:

                            09/13 20:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                            09/13 20:27 -6½ -104 / +6½ -104
                            09/14 00:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                            09/14 00:36 -6½ +107 / +6½ -116
                            09/14 09:20 -6 +102 / +6 -110
                            09/15 07:02 -5 -104 / +5 -104
                            09/15 15:26 -5 -102 / +5 -106
                            09/15 16:45 -5 +103 / +5 -111
                            09/15 16:55 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                            09/15 17:00 -4 +100 / +4 -108
                            09/15 17:30 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                            09/15 17:45 -4 -102 / +4 -106
                            09/15 17:50 -4 +104 / +4 -113
                            09/15 20:56 -3½ +100 / +3½ -108
                            09/15 22:16 -3½ -102 / +3½ -106
                            09/17 10:46 -3½ -104 / +3½ -104
                            09/17 12:26 -3½ +102 / +3½ -110
                            09/17 13:11 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115
                            09/17 13:41 -3½ +104 / +3½ -113
                            09/17 14:01 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115
                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                            [/quote]

                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                            • Robust
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-13-08
                              • 3254

                              #889
                              biggest movers i see on bettracker:

                              bets - Team - Percent - Line Open - Line Now
                              6576 - NYJ - 28% - +6.5 - +3.5
                              8490 - SF - 33% +1 - -1

                              RLM moves.. not yet good enough to bet on.. though they are more than 1 point moves the WRONG way (hence rlm), they don't have the required 10,000 bets minimum to take a shot.. there are other RLMs, but have 1/2 point moves as of now (and some have OVER 10,000 bets.. fyi)

                              just keep them in mind people..

                              Robust
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                              • Robust
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-13-08
                                • 3254

                                #890
                                Originally posted by yisman
                                huge movement on Cheats/Jets:

                                09/13 20:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                                09/13 20:27 -6½ -104 / +6½ -104
                                09/14 00:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                                09/14 00:36 -6½ +107 / +6½ -116
                                09/14 09:20 -6 +102 / +6 -110
                                09/15 07:02 -5 -104 / +5 -104
                                09/15 15:26 -5 -102 / +5 -106
                                09/15 16:45 -5 +103 / +5 -111
                                09/15 16:55 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                                09/15 17:00 -4 +100 / +4 -108
                                09/15 17:30 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                                09/15 17:45 -4 -102 / +4 -106
                                09/15 17:50 -4 +104 / +4 -113
                                09/15 20:56 -3½ +100 / +3½ -108
                                09/15 22:16 -3½ -102 / +3½ -106
                                09/17 10:46 -3½ -104 / +3½ -104
                                09/17 12:26 -3½ +102 / +3½ -110
                                09/17 13:11 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115
                                09/17 13:41 -3½ +104 / +3½ -113
                                09/17 14:01 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115
                                seems it is headed toward the +3.. -115 at 3.5 should get hit hard.. I am guessing it is a good time to take a small shot on this, before the +3.. whatcha think?

                                oh.. and thanks for finding this thread bro.. but DeluxeLiner started a fresh one for this season.. though having both is prolly better.. one for the plays.,.. one for the ????'s..

                                Robust
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                                • yisman
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-01-08
                                  • 75682

                                  #891
                                  seems good to stick to this one.

                                  It's huge movement, even though it doesn't meet the threshold. Clear RLM.
                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                  [/quote]

                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                  • Robust
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-13-08
                                    • 3254

                                    #892
                                    for new readers..

                                    i used to point out lines from sports dot com here.. since then, they have changed the way they post the lines to HIDE rlm.. obviously, they have people reading here and adjusted to fvck as many newbies as possible..

                                    goto two minute warning (all one word)
                                    dot
                                    com
                                    /
                                    bettracker.htm

                                    (board is *** out the link.. retry.. guess sbrodds is preffered )

                                    to see the line moves, and screw sports dot ***!

                                    Robust
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                                    • Robust
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-13-08
                                      • 3254

                                      #893
                                      since sbr works hard to maintain their sbrodds page, i decided to give ya an example on how to search for RLM using them..

                                      in the pic, the circled parts are where the line started, what percent of bets were placed, and where the line is now.. clear rlm.. just a bit more confusing to me than bet tracker (games are packed together and hard to stay on the same line for me).. but easily figured out with some concentration..

                                      Robust
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                                      • GiveMeaBJ
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-08-09
                                        • 8449

                                        #894
                                        You guys need to get a line service. The percentages on sites like covers and sbr are just so unreliable.
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                                        • losturmarbles
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-01-08
                                          • 4604

                                          #895
                                          Originally posted by yisman
                                          huge movement on Cheats/Jets:

                                          09/13 20:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                                          09/13 20:27 -6½ -104 / +6½ -104
                                          09/14 00:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                                          09/14 00:36 -6½ +107 / +6½ -116
                                          09/14 09:20 -6 +102 / +6 -110
                                          09/15 07:02 -5 -104 / +5 -104
                                          09/15 15:26 -5 -102 / +5 -106
                                          09/15 16:45 -5 +103 / +5 -111
                                          09/15 16:55 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                                          09/15 17:00 -4 +100 / +4 -108
                                          09/15 17:30 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                                          09/15 17:45 -4 -102 / +4 -106
                                          09/15 17:50 -4 +104 / +4 -113
                                          09/15 20:56 -3½ +100 / +3½ -108
                                          09/15 22:16 -3½ -102 / +3½ -106
                                          09/17 10:46 -3½ -104 / +3½ -104
                                          09/17 12:26 -3½ +102 / +3½ -110
                                          09/17 13:11 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115
                                          09/17 13:41 -3½ +104 / +3½ -113
                                          09/17 14:01 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115

                                          line was adjusted a point because of the pats performance monday night.

                                          line has moved since then but you should really look at it in 2 different timelines,

                                          before mnf
                                          09/13 20:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                                          09/13 20:27 -6½ -104 / +6½ -104
                                          09/14 00:11 -6½ +100 / +6½ -108
                                          09/14 00:36 -6½ +107 / +6½ -116
                                          09/14 09:20 -6 +102 / +6 -110

                                          and after mnf
                                          09/15 07:02 -5 -104 / +5 -104
                                          09/15 15:26 -5 -102 / +5 -106
                                          09/15 16:45 -5 +103 / +5 -111
                                          09/15 16:55 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                                          09/15 17:00 -4 +100 / +4 -108
                                          09/15 17:30 -4 +102 / +4 -110
                                          09/15 17:45 -4 -102 / +4 -106
                                          09/15 17:50 -4 +104 / +4 -113
                                          09/15 20:56 -3½ +100 / +3½ -108
                                          09/15 22:16 -3½ -102 / +3½ -106
                                          09/17 10:46 -3½ -104 / +3½ -104
                                          09/17 12:26 -3½ +102 / +3½ -110
                                          09/17 13:11 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115
                                          09/17 13:41 -3½ +104 / +3½ -113
                                          09/17 14:01 -3½ +106 / +3½ -115

                                          that being said the original expectation before mnf was new england winning by a td. and they probably will.
                                          sharp bettors already bet jets+6.5 and will bet pats -2.5 if the market reaches 3. it won't get any lower than 3.

                                          if you wanting to bet the jets, wait until sunday you should be able to get them at +4.5 at least.
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                                          • yisman
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-01-08
                                            • 75682

                                            #896
                                            I agree. I'd expect the line to head back up after bottoming out.
                                            [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                            [/quote]

                                            [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                            • ctu3308
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 07-14-09
                                              • 3

                                              #897
                                              what book does bettracker use for the the lines?
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                                              • Robust
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-13-08
                                                • 3254

                                                #898
                                                bumped this for people still wondering how RLM works.. read the WHOLE thing.. some very good info in this thread..

                                                Robust
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                                                • Robust
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-13-08
                                                  • 3254

                                                  #899
                                                  bump again..

                                                  READ PEOPLE!!

                                                  Robust
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                                                  • DeluxeLiner
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-29-08
                                                    • 4132

                                                    #900
                                                    good times friend
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