UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson (September 21, 2013)

MD · 09-07-13, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

Hamill beat Jones. Gustafsson beat Hamill....

MMAmath is fun stuff.

Davis beat Gustafsson. Davis also beat his wife. 90% chance that Gustafsson goes down for domestic violence before the fight. 70% chance that Rashad goes down for beating Davis's wife.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 09-07-13, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by MD

Davis beat Gustafsson. Davis also beat his wife. 90% chance that Gustafsson goes down for domestic violence before the fight. 70% chance that Rashad goes down for beating Davis's wife.

LOL, How on earth did i miss (or forget) a Phil Davis wife beater story???

**sideloaded** · 09-07-13, 03:07 PM

he didnt beat her, she liked rough sex. Then tried to smear phil on tmz because phil was owning her in court, pun was his lawyer

MD · 09-07-13, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8

LOL, How on earth did i miss (or forget) a Phil Davis wife beater story???

His wife came out with a statement saying that he slammed her. It was f-cking hilarious, she blamed his MMA training for turning him into a violent masochist who wanted violent sex, and best of all, she said that she could not defend herself, I shit you not, because of his "increased attacking ability".

**Vaughany** · 09-07-13, 03:14 PM

dude has a massive hog tho, she couldnt get enough

**Educ8d Degener8** · 09-07-13, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by MD

His wife came out with a statement saying that he slammed her. It was f-cking hilarious, she blamed his MMA training for turning him into a violent masochist who wanted violent sex, and best of all, she said that she could not defend herself, I shit you not, because of his "increased attacking ability".

If she had better TDD and could have kept it standing, she could have made it a competitive fight.

**Vaughany** · 09-07-13, 03:44 PM

he was too explosive. "Top of the food chain spousal abuse"

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 09-07-13, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

1 win in 10 years? Los to Travor Prangley, Forrest Griffin and Renato Sobral at lhw and had a draw with Akihiro Gono

I could be wrong but I believe all of those loses came before TRT. As someone who has taken just about every type of PED over the years I can tell you that it makes a world of difference.

**Sacrelicious** · 09-07-13, 06:25 PM

So anyway, I make a post about Pat Healy on page 3 two days ago, and come back to THIS... Unreal.

I actually spent 45 minutes reading this thread, I dunno why.

**Noleafclover** · 09-07-13, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

Well I'm glad to hear that sonny boy. By the looks of your post's it seem's you could use some inspiration.

However, I only give tips out to certain members nowadays. In other words..........

Ya shit's pretty bad man. Up 8.5 units first 2 months with MMA. But what you meant to say is, "With a local." See that way you're just a really good customer with a really stupid local, people can't prove jack.

**Educ8d Degener8** · 09-07-13, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Sacrelicious

So anyway, I make a post about Pat Healy on page 3 two days ago, and come back to THIS... Unreal.

I actually spent 45 minutes reading this thread, I dunno why.

5 minutes per page?!

**mirinquads** · 09-07-13, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by MD

"increased attacking ability".

penetrate me had forgotten about that. Most hilarious mma story all year

Dat hog

**Thor4140** · 09-07-13, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by Vaughany

dude has a massive hog tho, she couldnt get enough

only a matter of time

MD · 09-07-13, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by Thor4140

only a matter of time

^ This is the gayest post I've read all year.

**Thor4140** · 09-07-13, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by MD

^ This is the gayest post I've read all year.

i know isn't V getting a little bit to much?

MD · 09-07-13, 09:19 PM

I was talking to you. I could have sworn your post was in pink font for a few minutes.

**mmaed** · 09-07-13, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

1 win in 10 years? Los to Travor Prangley, Forrest Griffin and Renato Sobral at lhw and had a draw with Akihiro Gono

Jesus faggo Christ your going back like 10 years.

**Luca Fury** · 09-07-13, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by sideloaded

someone is now reporting me for the use of the word "faggo" Shit is a joke. SBR sucks because of all these new posters with 2013 join dates.

Who reports people for swearing? WTF?

**Luca Fury** · 09-07-13, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by MD

Davis beat Gustafsson. Davis also beat his wife. 90% chance that Gustafsson goes down for domestic violence before the fight. 70% chance that Rashad goes down for beating Davis's wife.

Nah, Rashad would just take her down over and over until he gasses himself out, then get TKO'd since there wasn't a time limit and judges.

**sideloaded** · 09-07-13, 11:19 PM

Originally posted by Luca Fury

Who reports people for swearing? WTF?

i dunno man, seems like i got a lot of enemies on here. I just hate zuffa and love womens mma. I dont even care about this jones fight. He will probably win first round armbar.

**sideloaded** · 09-08-13, 01:00 AM

**Vaughany** · 09-08-13, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by Luca Fury

Who reports people for swearing? WTF?

Reported

**sideloaded** · 09-08-13, 02:36 AM

**Dillonious Monk** · 09-08-13, 05:08 AM

Gonna be interesting if Gus can do ok on the ground the 1st couple rounds and not get finished. Training with Phil should help him alot. I'm sure Jones knows this will probably be his biggest challenge yet, though. Still, if Goose can start landing some good shots, I think he'll really go after Jones. He won't be like Machida and be slowing down by the 2nd round, or Rashad and just stand there...even though Rashad didn't really land too great of shots on Jones with that headkick and right hand. Length/height has alot to do with that I think, it's hard to be too confident going after someone aggressively who has such a height/reach advantage...which Jones won't have nearly as much of one here.

I just have a feeling that Jones won't react too well when he actually gets hit hard and there's a good amount of time left on the clock and he knows the person he's fighting isn't about to slow down. I mean, look at the way he ran away vs Machida when he got hit pretty decently, or how he retreated the whole 3rd round vs Bonnar, (he's improved a ton since then, but still, if he gets put in a similar position...he may react in a similar way).

Chances are that Jones will probably be able to take Gus down enough in the first 3 1/2 rounds or so that even if he can't take Gus down really late, Gus will still be too worn/beaten down himself to do enough to force a stoppage...or of course Gus could get finished but I have a feeling it won't be easy vs Jones.

I like Luca's idea of the over 2.5 here or maybe even Jones by decision. But I actually think Gus ITD at +620 might not be bad for a little bit...prolly just go with the over, though.

However, if Gus shows up looking like that^, I'm definitely going to bet him ITD.

**Luca Fury** · 09-08-13, 06:28 AM

Originally posted by Dillonious Monk

Gonna be interesting if Gus can do ok on the ground the 1st couple rounds and not get finished. Training with Phil should help him alot. I'm sure Jones knows this will probably be his biggest challenge yet, though. Still, if Goose can start landing some good shots, I think he'll really go after Jones. He won't be like Machida and be slowing down by the 2nd round, or Rashad and just stand there...even though Rashad didn't really land too great of shots on Jones with that headkick and right hand. Length/height has alot to do with that I think, it's hard to be too confident going after someone aggressively who has such a height/reach advantage...which Jones won't have nearly as much of one here.

I just have a feeling that Jones won't react too well when he actually gets hit hard and there's a good amount of time left on the clock and he knows the person he's fighting isn't about to slow down. I mean, look at the way he ran away vs Machida when he got hit pretty decently, or how he retreated the whole 3rd round vs Bonnar, (he's improved a ton since then, but still, if he gets put in a similar position...he may react in a similar way).

Chances are that Jones will probably be able to take Gus down enough in the first 3 1/2 rounds or so that even if he can't take Gus down really late, Gus will still be too worn/beaten down himself to do enough to force a stoppage...or of course Gus could get finished but I have a feeling it won't be easy vs Jones.

I like Luca's idea of the over 2.5 here or maybe even Jones by decision. But I actually think Gus ITD at +620 might not be bad for a little bit...prolly just go with the over, though.

However, if Gus shows up looking like that^, I'm definitely going to bet him ITD.

I really like the over. I might end up betting more than 3u on the over eventually. Although, I don't even have the full 3 units on it yet. I maxed it already at +115 and they haven't moved it at all, so I can't add anymore. Will need to hit it multiple more times to get 3u down, so these penetrates better get to moving this line soon. I might make it a max 5u play if I like as much after research as I do now.

**Beelzebubzy** · 09-08-13, 08:43 AM

Playing Khabib -220. Healy has been inconsistent. Looked like crap vs jap and holo. Going against a relentless grappler.

**sideloaded** · 09-08-13, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Playing Khabib -220. Healy has been inconsistent. Looked like crap vs jap and holo. Going against a relentless grappler.

parlay it with Tsonga and the raiders. Tell how that loses?

**mmaed** · 09-08-13, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Beelzebubzy

Playing Khabib -220. Healy has been inconsistent. Looked like crap vs jap and holo. Going against a relentless grappler.

I could see healy catching him with a submission.

MD · 09-08-13, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by mmaed

I could see healy catching him with a submission.

Really? He's betting on Khabib so obviously he thinks that Healy winning is completely impossible.

**mmaed** · 09-08-13, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by MD

Really? He's betting on Khabib so obviously he thinks that Healy winning is completely impossible.

Lol well we will see. I think Khabib wins but Healy is going to have the better jiu jitsu. Not sure how the standup plays out either. Khabib has some power but his technique looks like shat. He should have lost the decision against Tibau. His last two wins were impressive though. Healy had an impressive win over Jim miller as well.

MD · 09-08-13, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by mmaed

Lol well we will see. I think Khabib wins but Healy is going to have the better jiu jitsu. Not sure how the standup plays out either. Khabib has some power but his technique looks like shat. He should have lost the decision against Tibau. His last two wins were impressive though. Healy had an impressive win over Jim miller as well.

I think you missed the not-so-subtle point of my post.

Anyway, Healy has the better jiujitsu because Khabib is a Sambo practitioner. A really high level one at that. I don't like Healy's chances on the feet either.

**mmaed** · 09-08-13, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by MD

I think you missed the not-so-subtle point of my post.

Anyway, Healy has the better jiujitsu because Khabib is a Sambo practitioner. A really high level one at that. I don't like Healy's chances on the feet either.

Oh no I got it, don't worry. I was just continuing with the breakdown of the fight. Exactly what I think as well. BJJ>Sambo on the ground. I have a little trepidation about betting on Khabib to keep it standing. You never know what someone is going to do.

**Vaughany** · 09-08-13, 02:11 PM

I dont think MD was saying BJJ>Sambo was he?!

**mmaed** · 09-08-13, 02:38 PM

Oh alright. Sometimes its hard to decipher the annoying constantly sarcastic tone of his posts.

MD · 09-08-13, 03:11 PM

If I'm constantly sarcastic, then "obviously he thinks Healy winning is completely impossible" should be easy to decipher. In other words, I think he knows that Healy could possibly get a sub.