UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson (September 21, 2013)

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  • sideloaded
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    #386
    Originally posted by grabaka
    yeah boiiii jon bones no-cojones.....plzzzzz god make it happen!!!!!
    im smokin' crack breah!!! Viva la montera@@@
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    • sideloaded
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      #387
      Much has been said before (in Swedish eyes) the historic bout between Alexander Gustafsson and champion Jon Jones on September 21. Usually, fighters are not so very keen to be in present to their opponent before the actually fight day. But both Gustafsson and Jones has repeatedly been forced to just that due to the work of promoting interest in the fight. Despite the time together, the relationship between the two light heavyweights still been friendly and respectful.

      "A little bratty kid in a grown-up body"
      But now, with less than two weeks away, Gustafsson reveals for Kimura.se his true thoughts about the 26 -year-old Jon Jones. The Swede verbally swinging hard against his next opponent.
      - He's a little brat in an adult's body. A very immature boy in a grown man's body. Thats Jones.

      Explain what you mean, you've so far been very respectful to each other...
      - It is not always that a person is himself in front of the cameras, and there you have Jones. If you're with him for a week, as I was at UFC World Press Tour...
      His way to behave. He is a real bully, "Alex" says to Kimura.se and continues:

      - It's like you give a kid everything. And you don't speak up, you just say yes, yes, to everything the kid asks for. Eventually the kid sees no limits and goes out of control.
      No, his behavior... I'm not a big fan of it, if I say so.

      Are there any concrete examples?
      - He throws out stupid comments. We were suppose to do an interview together in England. Me and Andres (Michael) had to sit and wait for Jones because he was delayed. When he comes in 45 minutes late, he don't even apologize. Neither to me or those who would do the interview.

      - I am professional and have great respect for Jones as a fighter. There are not many who can do what he has done and he deserves all the respect. But as a person, as a role model, I'm really not a fan, Alex says

      Are you affected by this?
      - No. I try not to have feelings when I fight. Whether it's good or bad. You should never fight with emotions, then you lose focus. And then you lose.

      How do you think the fight will turn out?
      - I will win. There's nothing else for me. I will not go and fight against Jones with the attitude of just "make this a good fight." I will win it's that simple, says "The Mauler".

      Harsh words to say atleast. Espacially as the Swede Alex never directly made ​​himself known to "trash talk" earlier in his career. Whether this is the start of a war of words in the final stages of preparation remains to be seen. But it certinaly turns up the excitement for the title fight at UFC 165 in Toronto on September 21.
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      • Vaughany
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        • 03-07-10
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        #388
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        • MD
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          #389
          Maxed Gustafsson by KO +1025. Also like the UD line.
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          • Beelzebubzy
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            #390
            Nice grab MD. I like the KO prop as well.
            Also played starts round 2 -290
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            • sideloaded
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              #391


              what a NORDIC GOD. bow down to the master race
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              • Dillonious Monk
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                #392
                One saying that is cliche but I really like..."Speed kills", it's the main reason I think Healy will pretty much be a cakewalk for Khabib.

                His timing is good, too. Jim also was winning that fight vs Pat until he gassed and I think Pat was saved by the bell in the 1st when Jim was on top of him landing heavy GNP.

                Look at Thiago Tavares...probably has better technique standing up...but it didn't matter because Khabib anticipated what Tavares was doing well and used his great speed to jump in and land a huge left hook. It might not have been the most technical left hook and he might have left his guard down...but, it didn't matter because it was set up very well and it was very quick. Then when you factor in how slow Healy is on the feet and that Khabib hasn't shown to have cardio problems, yet (and he's been in a couple of 3 round fights), I honestly don't see how Pat wins this fight. He couldn't outgrapple Hirota-that fight was at the most a stalemate for Healy in the grappling department, and well, Jim Miller just gassed pretty bad nowadays. I see Khabib winning by early tko or lopsided decision.
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                • mirinquads
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                  #393
                  Tavares is a notorious quitter and front runner. Healy is a tough son of a bitch. Big difference.
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                  • sideloaded
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                    #394


                    did you see my boy Ishii? What a JAP CAN!
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                    • beermankirk
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                      #395
                      Normally undercards are out by Monday? Guess we wait til Tuesday...
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                      • sideloaded
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                        #396
                        Has anyone thought about a system fading Adam Martin? He might be the worst capper of all time.
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                        • Das Jax
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                          • 09-23-11
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                          #397
                          I think ITD for Jones/Gustaf is looking juicy at -300... I really don't think this is going to the cards. Anyone want to disagree?
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                          • raag
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                            #398
                            I don't think -300 is great value for it not going the distance. Gustaffson's most likely way to win is by KO and Jones will have a hard time putting Gustaffson away. Alex has a granite chin and seemingly pretty tough skin to cut. Jones is very unlikely to hurt him on the feet and I think Gustaffson will be harder to get down than most of his previous opponents. While I still think Gustaffson will get beat up on his back from Jones - and a sub is possible - I think it's less likely to see Jones landing GnP the same way he did vs. Chael/Shogun against Alex.
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                            • sideloaded
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                              #399
                              The VIKING WANTS HIS SNUFF. DO NOT ANGER THE NORD!

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                              • sideloaded
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                                #400
                                Gustafsson is in a Win Win situation. Win he is champion. Lose he is escorted to Valhalla by Valkyries.
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                                • Das Jax
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                                  • 09-23-11
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                                  #401
                                  Originally posted by raag
                                  I don't think -300 is great value for it not going the distance. Gustaffson's most likely way to win is by KO and Jones will have a hard time putting Gustaffson away. Alex has a granite chin and seemingly pretty tough skin to cut. Jones is very unlikely to hurt him on the feet and I think Gustaffson will be harder to get down than most of his previous opponents. While I still think Gustaffson will get beat up on his back from Jones - and a sub is possible - I think it's less likely to see Jones landing GnP the same way he did vs. Chael/Shogun against Alex.
                                  Thanks for the input. I keep waffling back and forth on it myself. As impressive as I find Gustaffson, at the end of the day I really don't think he's much of a threat to Jones and I definitely agree with you that he'll find himself on his back receiving some good ol' fashioned ground and pound. His chin is unbeaten thus far, but if it comes down to a contest between his chin/skull and Jones' elbows... I can't help but favor the elbows. If this were a three round fight I'd say it goes the distance, but a five rounder? My gut tells me this fight doesn't go 25 minutes.
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                                  • The iron sheik
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                                    #402
                                    took starts round 2 at -290 and the u2,5

                                    gustafsson sucks, it's going to be derailed train after this weekend
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                                    • Das Jax
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                                      • 09-23-11
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                                      #403
                                      Originally posted by The iron sheik
                                      took starts round 2 at -290 and the u2,5

                                      gustafsson sucks, it's going to be derailed train after this weekend
                                      With a prediction that specific... wouldn't it be better to take "fight ends round 2" at plus odds?
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                                      • The iron sheik
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                                        #404
                                        Originally posted by Das Jax
                                        With a prediction that specific... wouldn't it be better to take "fight ends round 2" at plus odds?
                                        it's not very specific if I base it on "gustafsson sucks"

                                        Kidding aside though, the two I posted overlap and one of them is guaranteed to hit
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                                        • Vaughany
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                                          #405
                                          Originally posted by sideloaded
                                          Has anyone thought about a system fading Adam Martin? He might be the worst capper of all time.
                                          ha I have considered it
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                                          • raag
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                                            • 05-18-13
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                                            #406
                                            Yeah I don't think the fight has high likelihood of going 25min but I really like the 'starts round 2' at -290 and the starts round 3 prop as well. The o2.5 was like +125 previously which was sick.
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                                            • ReBEL`LiON
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                                              #407
                                              Does anyone think Khabib could possibly make 145? Seemed undersized in 2 of his fights in the UFC. And for a grappling based fighter it could be beneficial. But that's just speculation on my part.

                                              Of healy's recent LW Renaissance, he's fought 4 current FWs in Blanco, Wisely, Hirota and Holobaugh. A couple of them gave him trouble. Jim Miller is a small LW himself who could benefit from a cut but I hear he doesn't like it.

                                              Anyways, the odds warrant a play on Healy, but barring an injury Khabib should dominate this fight. A much more technical striker could beat Khabib's wild style and Healy aint that.
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                                              • MD
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                                                #408
                                                Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                Has anyone thought about a system fading Adam Martin? He might be the worst capper of all time.
                                                And he's one of the two candidates for worst media judge. Actually thought Edgar beat Aldo, LOL.
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                                                • The iron sheik
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                                                  #409
                                                  Perhaps someone should compile statistics from mmaoddsbreaker as they have columnists that raise the autofade bar to new heights. Now this isn't a dig at you luca, settle down and take your medication.

                                                  I think it could be combined with some other data from that site. The ultimate fade system:







                                                  THE MARTINGABE SYSTEM
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                                                  • Vaughany
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                                                    #410
                                                    lol
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                                                    • Beelzebubzy
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                                                      #411
                                                      You guys do math wrong.
                                                      Im chasing fools gold.


                                                      Bubzy takes a bow after that line
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                                                      • MD
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                                                        #412
                                                        Gabe claims to be 18-3 in MMAOB predictions since joining, even though both myself and Luca have pointed out that he had four bets on Hernandez, all of which lost. And four FotN bets.
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                                                        • sideloaded
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                                                          #413
                                                          pretty much how everyone in the world caps UFC fytes BRAH!



                                                          Man this guy is good

                                                          I just re-watched the Alexander Gustafsson vs. Phil Davis fight. (self.MMA)
                                                          submitted 7 hours ago by baz_rampant
                                                          It kind of reaffirmed my thinking that this isn't going to end well for Gustafsson




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                                                          • MD
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                                                            #414
                                                            Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                            pretty much how everyone in the world caps UFC fytes BRAH!



                                                            Man this guy is good

                                                            I just re-watched the Alexander Gustafsson vs. Phil Davis fight. (self.MMA)
                                                            submitted 7 hours ago by baz_rampant
                                                            It kind of reaffirmed my thinking that this isn't going to end well for Gustafsson




                                                            Similarly valid counter-argument: Gustafsson knocked out Matt Hamill, and we all saw how disgusting Jones vs Hamill was. All I remember was a flurry of elbows, blood everywhere, and Jones had lost the fight. I'm surprised he ever recovered from that.
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                                                            • sideloaded
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                                                              #415
                                                              Jones is going to beat the klitschkos! What CANT this young hungry phenomenon do?




                                                              Jones is beyond delusional and looking WAY past Gustafsson. He will be beat saturday.
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                                                              • Vaughany
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                                                                #416
                                                                Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                                Jones is going to beat the klitschkos! What CANT this young hungry phenomenon do?




                                                                Jones is beyond delusional and looking WAY past Gustafsson. He will be beat saturday.
                                                                Avoid utility poles.
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                                                                • Sato
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                                                                  • 07-10-12
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                                                                  #417
                                                                  Hey Sider...remember Sak? Remember that shit? THat feel when I remember Sakuraba TODAY! His Wand fights, when he fought CC, when he decided to fight a juiced to the grill Randleman,...oh god...where is he now? I miss him!
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                                                                  • sideloaded
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                                                                    #418
                                                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                                    Avoid utility poles.
                                                                    say no to women not of legal age
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                                                                    • sideloaded
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                                                                      #419
                                                                      Originally posted by Sato
                                                                      Hey Sider...remember Sak? Remember that shit? THat feel when I remember Sakuraba TODAY! His Wand fights, when he fought CC, when he decided to fight a juiced to the grill Randleman,...oh god...where is he now? I miss him!
                                                                      His gym closed down. mma is dead in japan. He wrestles in NJPW


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                                                                      • sideloaded
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                                                                        #420
                                                                        only a matter of time before the entire sport is dead. UFC doing worse ppv numbers than 2006. No lie. Then we can all move on to the arena football forum.
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