UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson (September 21, 2013)

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  • Beelzebubzy
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    • 06-06-11
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    #316
    Originally posted by MD
    If I'm constantly sarcastic, then "obviously he thinks Healy winning is completely impossible" should be easy to decipher. In other words, I think he knows that Healy could possibly get a sub.
    Yes Healy can win probably 29.4 -32.5%
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    • Vaughany
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      • 03-07-10
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      #317
      Mike Ricci

      2 hours ago via Mobile


      Had to say goodbye to my brother and good friend today.. R.I.P boss I love you

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      • Vaughany
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        #318
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        • mirinquads
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          #319
          Khabib's striking is sloppy, based a lot on athleticism over technique, lunging in with long awkward hooks and straights. Pat Healy is too tough and experienced to fall prey to this kind of striking game imo. His striking is very basic and but fundamentally sound. He isn't a quitter like Tavares. I think we will see a lot of grinding against the fence and a close close decision in this fight. Would rather be on the dog in this case.

          Healy's size advantage will also work in his favour in a fight like this, just like it did with Miller.
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          • mmaed
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            #320
            Originally posted by mirinquads
            Khabib's striking is sloppy, based a lot on athleticism over technique, lunging in with long awkward hooks and straights. Pat Healy is too tough and experienced to fall prey to this kind of striking game imo. His striking is very basic and but fundamentally sound. He isn't a quitter like Tavares. I think we will see a lot of grinding against the fence and a close close decision in this fight. Would rather be on the dog in this case.

            Healy's size advantage will also work in his favour in a fight like this, just like it did with Miller.
            I don't see him doing to khabib what he did to miller.
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            • mirinquads
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              #321
              He won't, but he will certainly attempt it.
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              • sideloaded
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                #322
                Originally posted by Luca Fury
                I really like the over. I might end up betting more than 3u on the over eventually. Although, I don't even have the full 3 units on it yet. I maxed it already at +115 and they haven't moved it at all, so I can't add anymore. Will need to hit it multiple more times to get 3u down, so these penetrates better get to moving this line soon. I might make it a max 5u play if I like as much after research as I do now.
                2.5? I like it too.
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                • Thor4140
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                  #323
                  Originally posted by Luca Fury
                  Who reports people for swearing? WTF?
                  Two days ago u were calling for a ban on a guy who called u a name lol. How quickly we forget
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                  • Educ8d Degener8
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                    #324
                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                    Lana Del Rey soundtrack + chains on one plate bench...

                    Alert set for Jury-Ricci line.
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                    • mmaed
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                      #325
                      Originally posted by Educ8d Degener8
                      Lana Del Rey soundtrack + chains on one plate bench...

                      Alert set for Jury-Ricci line.
                      Thik ricci wins? I figure jury should be a solid favorite.
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                      • Vaughany
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                        #326
                        Originally posted by mmaed
                        Thik ricci wins? I figure jury should be a solid favorite.
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                        • mmaed
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                          #327
                          Originally posted by Vaughany
                          Question mark.
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                          • Vaughany
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                            #328
                            You are stating the obvious again and not getting the sarcasm by Edu!

                            Are you Gunshard's brother?!
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                            • mmaed
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                              #329
                              Well im looking to hear his opinion and yes, i have sarcasm turned off.
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                              • Beelzebubzy
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                                #330
                                Originally posted by Vaughany
                                You are stating the obvious again and not getting the sarcasm by Edu!

                                Are you Gunshard's brother?!
                                GunshED
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                                • sideloaded
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                                  #331
                                  jack Slack is an asshole. He wrote an entire article about how Wiedman was not ready for Silva and now in his new article taking full credit for teaching weidman how to win. Never mentioning for one second Silva was already flashed knocked out with 2 mins to go in the FIRST round by Weidman which contributed to the knock out on the feet.

                                  Now he is comparing Gus to rampage and shogun as having no shot against Jones because they all fight too crouched down trying to stop a shot and not being able to defend low kicks to the knee.

                                  Gus's footwork is NOTHING like Rampages or Shoguns. How did this guy get so popular? Like 1 out of 3 things he types is actually true. And his writing is pretty shitty tbh.
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                                  • sideloaded
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                                    #332
                                    Whats up faggos? Here to drop some knowledge once again. My boy Gus as an amateur boxer being legit as fuk beating the swedish HW champ



                                    I have more video but why keep dropping crumbs for the peasants?


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                                    • The iron sheik
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                                      #333
                                      I'm not sure is being a swedish boxing champion a very distinguished merit. Hey, not trying to hate on the guy and if he has good striking, then he has good striking.
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                                      • sideloaded
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                                        #334
                                        I really dont care if he has "good" striking. All I care about is does he have enough striking to beat Jones. And the answer is yes.


                                        Then you have "experts" like jack slack out there telling the sherdonks Gus is a guy who goes straight back waiting for his opponents to fall on his punches. Shit is just f-cking stupid. Watch him in the amateurs, he doesnt do that at all to win fights.

                                        Never reading Jack Slack again. Guy is delusional or just doesnt do his homework.
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                                        • sideloaded
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                                          #335
                                          And those push kicks to the knee are rare for a reason. You need your opponent standing still in range for those to land plus you're putting yourself off balance to counter anything if it misses. Works great on guys who grow into trees inside the octagon.

                                          99% of the time if a fighter is standing flat footed in range a guy will go for something more meaningful like a power punch to the head or a strong High or body kick. But Jones likes to win on points and frustrate a guy then go for the kill later in fights after the other guy has lost all hope. Or in the Rashad fight just run out the clock.

                                          Pettis threw fight ending body kicks. He didnt f-ck around with some kicks to the knee to score points and maybe later take out his opponent.
                                          Last edited by sideloaded; 09-10-13, 12:51 AM.
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                                          • Luca Fury
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                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                                            Two days ago u were calling for a ban on a guy who called u a name lol. How quickly we forget
                                            Now I wasn't. I said it's dumb that a guy like Pelz can go in every thread and start bashing every poster in there, thus ruining the thread, yet not be dealt with.

                                            Had nothing to do with swearing.
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                                            • Luca Fury
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                                              #337
                                              Originally posted by sideloaded
                                              2.5? I like it too.
                                              Yes, the over 2.5. They STILL haven't moved it………
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                                              • Thor4140
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                                                • 02-09-08
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                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                And those push kicks to the knee are rare for a reason. You need your opponent standing still in range for those to land plus you're putting yourself off balance to counter anything if it misses. Works great on guys who grow into trees inside the octagon.

                                                99% of the time if a fighter is standing flat footed in range a guy will go for something more meaningful like a power punch to the head or a strong High or body kick. But Jones likes to win on points and frustrate a guy then go for the kill later in fights after the other guy has lost all hope. Or in the Rashad fight just run out the clock.

                                                Pettis threw fight ending body kicks. He didnt f-ck around with some kicks to the knee to score points and maybe later take out his opponent.
                                                To me those push kicks to the knee are about as cheap of a tactic there is in mMA. Fukers should be illegal if ya ask me. Pussy move.
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                                                • Thor4140
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                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                                  Now I wasn't. I said it's dumb that a guy like Pelz can go in every thread and start bashing every poster in there, thus ruining the thread, yet not be dealt with.

                                                  Had nothing to do with swearing.
                                                  Had everything to do with trying to ban the guy tho.
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                                                  • Thor4140
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                                                    #340
                                                    Let me put it this way Sider. If Gus wins i won't sit there and be shocked. Guy has a legitimate chance of winning here. Just think Jones take downs are gonna be just to much.
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                                                    • MD
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                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by sideloaded
                                                      I really dont care if he has "good" striking. All I care about is does he have enough striking to beat Jones. And the answer is yes.


                                                      Then you have "experts" like jack slack out there telling the sherdonks Gus is a guy who goes straight back waiting for his opponents to fall on his punches. Shit is just f-cking stupid. Watch him in the amateurs, he doesnt do that at all to win fights.

                                                      Never reading Jack Slack again. Guy is delusional or just doesnt do his homework.
                                                      Except, this is MMA. Where he clearly does.

                                                      Also, if you think that kicks to the knee are "point fighting", then you need to work on your striking analysis.
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                                                      • hobbesITD
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                                                        #342
                                                        Ariel Helwani ‏@arielhelwani 53m@MMAFighting: Gustafsson: My reach is 81.2 inches.”
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                                                        • PunisherIND
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                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by hobbesITD
                                                          Ariel Helwani ‏@arielhelwani 53m@MMAFighting: Gustafsson: My reach is 81.2 inches.”
                                                          did he round up or down to the .2 ??
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                                                          • The iron sheik
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                                                            #344
                                                            Originally posted by PunisherIND
                                                            did he round up or down to the .2 ??
                                                            it's 79 and then 2.2 for the hog
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                                                            • Imsmarterthanu
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                                                              #345
                                                              Healy could win i doubt he'll outwrestle Khabib but he can clip him when Khabib tries to overwhelm him and won't get what he wants
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                                                              • Vaughany
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                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                                                                Healy could win i doubt he'll outwrestle Khabib but he can clip him when Khabib tries to overwhelm him and won't get what he wants
                                                                Healy's striking is mediocre though and lacks power
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                                                                • sideloaded
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                                                                  #347
                                                                  Originally posted by MD
                                                                  Except, this is MMA. Where he clearly does.

                                                                  Also, if you think that kicks to the knee are "point fighting", then you need to work on your striking analysis.
                                                                  Would you please shut the fuk up with nonsense. Name ONE god damn MMA fight ended with push kicks to the knee. ONE.


                                                                  You really are f-cking stupid if you think Gus Back straight up and lets opponents fall on punches. REAL fuking DUMB.
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                                                                  • sideloaded
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                                                                    #348
                                                                    Originally posted by hobbesITD
                                                                    Ariel Helwani ‏@arielhelwani 53m@MMAFighting: Gustafsson: My reach is 81.2 inches.”
                                                                    Well looks like I was right on the money again.
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                                                                    • sideloaded
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                                                                      #349
                                                                      You really are a piece of shit MD. Pick Gus to win by KO then try to say I'm lying about this shit. What have you contributed to this thread? Where is your breakdown? F-k off.

                                                                      MD is one reason this board is complete shit to read. What a fuking waste of space. Pick Gus to win, then try to tell me push kicks to the knee end fights.
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                                                                      • sideloaded
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                                                                        #350
                                                                        I dont know why I waste time proving MD wrong over and over and over again. Guy just loves to argue without proving anything he says. Here is Gus going forward doing damage in MMA. I will be waiting for all those gifs of push kicks to the knee ending fights. I truly wonder what the hell goes through MD's mind when he types absolute bullshit. time to leave and make a new sn like when Nunya clowned your ass on game theory.







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