UFC 165: Jones vs. Gustafsson (September 21, 2013)

[Beelzebubzy]

If I'm constantly sarcastic, then "obviously he thinks Healy winning is completely impossible" should be easy to decipher. In other words, I think he knows that Healy could possibly get a sub.

Yes Healy can win probably 29.4 -32.5%

[Vaughany]

Mike Ricci

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Had to say goodbye to my brother and good friend today.. R.I.P boss I love you

[Vaughany]

[mirinquads]

Khabib's striking is sloppy, based a lot on athleticism over technique, lunging in with long awkward hooks and straights. Pat Healy is too tough and experienced to fall prey to this kind of striking game imo. His striking is very basic and but fundamentally sound. He isn't a quitter like Tavares. I think we will see a lot of grinding against the fence and a close close decision in this fight. Would rather be on the dog in this case.

Healy's size advantage will also work in his favour in a fight like this, just like it did with Miller.

[mmaed]

Khabib's striking is sloppy, based a lot on athleticism over technique, lunging in with long awkward hooks and straights. Pat Healy is too tough and experienced to fall prey to this kind of striking game imo. His striking is very basic and but fundamentally sound. He isn't a quitter like Tavares. I think we will see a lot of grinding against the fence and a close close decision in this fight. Would rather be on the dog in this case.

Healy's size advantage will also work in his favour in a fight like this, just like it did with Miller.

I don't see him doing to khabib what he did to miller.

[mirinquads]

He won't, but he will certainly attempt it.

[sideloaded]

I really like the over. I might end up betting more than 3u on the over eventually. Although, I don't even have the full 3 units on it yet. I maxed it already at +115 and they haven't moved it at all, so I can't add anymore. Will need to hit it multiple more times to get 3u down, so these penetrates better get to moving this line soon. I might make it a max 5u play if I like as much after research as I do now.

2.5? I like it too.

[Thor4140]

Who reports people for swearing? WTF?

Two days ago u were calling for a ban on a guy who called u a name lol. How quickly we forget

[Educ8d Degener8]

Lana Del Rey soundtrack + chains on one plate bench...

Alert set for Jury-Ricci line.

[mmaed]

Lana Del Rey soundtrack + chains on one plate bench...

Alert set for Jury-Ricci line.

Thik ricci wins? I figure jury should be a solid favorite.

[Vaughany]

Thik ricci wins? I figure jury should be a solid favorite.

[mmaed]

Question mark.

[Vaughany]

You are stating the obvious again and not getting the sarcasm by Edu!

Are you Gunshard's brother?!

[mmaed]

Well im looking to hear his opinion and yes, i have sarcasm turned off.

[Beelzebubzy]

You are stating the obvious again and not getting the sarcasm by Edu!

Are you Gunshard's brother?!

GunshED

[sideloaded]

jack Slack is an asshole. He wrote an entire article about how Wiedman was not ready for Silva and now in his new article taking full credit for teaching weidman how to win. Never mentioning for one second Silva was already flashed knocked out with 2 mins to go in the FIRST round by Weidman which contributed to the knock out on the feet.

Now he is comparing Gus to rampage and shogun as having no shot against Jones because they all fight too crouched down trying to stop a shot and not being able to defend low kicks to the knee.

Gus's footwork is NOTHING like Rampages or Shoguns. How did this guy get so popular? Like 1 out of 3 things he types is actually true. And his writing is pretty shitty tbh.

[sideloaded]

Whats up faggos? Here to drop some knowledge once again. My boy Gus as an amateur boxer being legit as fuk beating the swedish HW champ

http://vimeo.com/3426497

I have more video but why keep dropping crumbs for the peasants?

[The iron sheik]

I'm not sure is being a swedish boxing champion a very distinguished merit. Hey, not trying to hate on the guy and if he has good striking, then he has good striking.

[sideloaded]

I really dont care if he has "good" striking. All I care about is does he have enough striking to beat Jones. And the answer is yes.


Then you have "experts" like jack slack out there telling the sherdonks Gus is a guy who goes straight back waiting for his opponents to fall on his punches. Shit is just f-cking stupid. Watch him in the amateurs, he doesnt do that at all to win fights.

Never reading Jack Slack again. Guy is delusional or just doesnt do his homework.

[sideloaded]

And those push kicks to the knee are rare for a reason. You need your opponent standing still in range for those to land plus you're putting yourself off balance to counter anything if it misses. Works great on guys who grow into trees inside the octagon.

99% of the time if a fighter is standing flat footed in range a guy will go for something more meaningful like a power punch to the head or a strong High or body kick. But Jones likes to win on points and frustrate a guy then go for the kill later in fights after the other guy has lost all hope. Or in the Rashad fight just run out the clock.

Pettis threw fight ending body kicks. He didnt f-ck around with some kicks to the knee to score points and maybe later take out his opponent.

[Luca Fury]

Two days ago u were calling for a ban on a guy who called u a name lol. How quickly we forget

Now I wasn't. I said it's dumb that a guy like Pelz can go in every thread and start bashing every poster in there, thus ruining the thread, yet not be dealt with.

Had nothing to do with swearing.

[Luca Fury]

2.5? I like it too.

Yes, the over 2.5. They STILL haven't moved it………

[Thor4140]

And those push kicks to the knee are rare for a reason. You need your opponent standing still in range for those to land plus you're putting yourself off balance to counter anything if it misses. Works great on guys who grow into trees inside the octagon.

99% of the time if a fighter is standing flat footed in range a guy will go for something more meaningful like a power punch to the head or a strong High or body kick. But Jones likes to win on points and frustrate a guy then go for the kill later in fights after the other guy has lost all hope. Or in the Rashad fight just run out the clock.

Pettis threw fight ending body kicks. He didnt f-ck around with some kicks to the knee to score points and maybe later take out his opponent.

To me those push kicks to the knee are about as cheap of a tactic there is in mMA. Fukers should be illegal if ya ask me. Pussy move.

[Thor4140]

Now I wasn't. I said it's dumb that a guy like Pelz can go in every thread and start bashing every poster in there, thus ruining the thread, yet not be dealt with.

Had nothing to do with swearing.

Had everything to do with trying to ban the guy tho.

[Thor4140]

Let me put it this way Sider. If Gus wins i won't sit there and be shocked. Guy has a legitimate chance of winning here. Just think Jones take downs are gonna be just to much.

[MD]

I really dont care if he has "good" striking. All I care about is does he have enough striking to beat Jones. And the answer is yes.


Then you have "experts" like jack slack out there telling the sherdonks Gus is a guy who goes straight back waiting for his opponents to fall on his punches. Shit is just f-cking stupid. Watch him in the amateurs, he doesnt do that at all to win fights.

Never reading Jack Slack again. Guy is delusional or just doesnt do his homework.

Except, this is MMA. Where he clearly does.

Also, if you think that kicks to the knee are "point fighting", then you need to work on your striking analysis.

[hobbesITD]

Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani 53m “@MMAFighting: Gustafsson: My reach is 81.2 inches.”

[PunisherIND]

Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani 53m “@MMAFighting: Gustafsson: My reach is 81.2 inches.”

did he round up or down to the .2 ??

[The iron sheik]

did he round up or down to the .2 ??

it's 79 and then 2.2 for the hog

[Imsmarterthanu]

Healy could win i doubt he'll outwrestle Khabib but he can clip him when Khabib tries to overwhelm him and won't get what he wants

[Vaughany]

Healy could win i doubt he'll outwrestle Khabib but he can clip him when Khabib tries to overwhelm him and won't get what he wants

Healy's striking is mediocre though and lacks power

[sideloaded]

Except, this is MMA. Where he clearly does.

Also, if you think that kicks to the knee are "point fighting", then you need to work on your striking analysis.

Would you please shut the fuk up with nonsense. Name ONE god damn MMA fight ended with push kicks to the knee. ONE.


You really are f-cking stupid if you think Gus Back straight up and lets opponents fall on punches. REAL fuking DUMB.

[sideloaded]

Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani 53m “@MMAFighting: Gustafsson: My reach is 81.2 inches.”

Well looks like I was right on the money again.

[sideloaded]

You really are a piece of shit MD. Pick Gus to win by KO then try to say I'm lying about this shit. What have you contributed to this thread? Where is your breakdown? F-k off.

MD is one reason this board is complete shit to read. What a fuking waste of space. Pick Gus to win, then try to tell me push kicks to the knee end fights.

[sideloaded]

I dont know why I waste time proving MD wrong over and over and over again. Guy just loves to argue without proving anything he says. Here is Gus going forward doing damage in MMA. I will be waiting for all those gifs of push kicks to the knee ending fights. I truly wonder what the hell goes through MD's mind when he types absolute bullshit. time to leave and make a new sn like when Nunya clowned your ass on game theory.