Has anyone tried chasing the team totals for these teams. So far I think only SF and Detroit would have failed to cover their team totals and the price would be under -130 too.
on3's MLB 2012 Opening Game system thread 194-8 last year +60 units
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pazimSBR Sharp
- 02-09-10
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#1471Comment -
sstrunks52005SBR Sharp
- 07-15-11
- 251
#1472Last edited by sstrunks52005; 05-10-12, 01:42 AM.Comment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#1473
Game 2 win = 14-6; 2-0
Game 3 win = 2-3; 0-0
I hope you realize 21-20 is not 60+% and you obviously did not read the rest of my post. Play the underdog for the FIRST game and then the FAVE thereafter. I suggested before splitting the bet between the RL and ML so if the fave DOES win the first game, you will be refunded if they only win by one run. This eliminates the problem of people losing massively on an ABC series.Comment -
alexknycSBR Wise Guy
- 03-22-11
- 861
#1474Game 1 win = 21-20; 7-2
Game 2 win = 14-6; 2-0
Game 3 win = 2-3; 0-0
I hope you realize 21-20 is not 60+% and you obviously did not read the rest of my post. Play the underdog for the FIRST game and then the FAVE thereafter. I suggested before splitting the bet between the RL and ML so if the fave DOES win the first game, you will be refunded if they only win by one run. This eliminates the problem of people losing massively on an ABC series.
If you're in a situation that can bust you, your problem isn't the system, it's your money management.Comment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#1475
"last year was fine and if the system was back tested only 1 year and that was the base of our future success not many would be jumping ship. However, in 2007 this system lost around 40-70units no matter how you managed your money wether it be labby or martingale. There was just no saving that system for that year."Comment -
alexknycSBR Wise Guy
- 03-22-11
- 861
#1476I'm quoting from #1454:
"last year was fine and if the system was back tested only 1 year and that was the base of our future success not many would be jumping ship. However, in 2007 this system lost around 40-70units no matter how you managed your money wether it be labby or martingale. There was just no saving that system for that year."Comment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#1477Yeah...I don't think anyone is keen to actually LOSE UNITS on baseball. If the system isn't profitable, it is less to do with money management than it is with the fact that it just isn't working.Comment -
LakeySBR Sharp
- 05-06-12
- 430
#1478Game 1 win = 21-20; 7-2
Game 2 win = 14-6; 2-0
Game 3 win = 2-3; 0-0
I hope you realize 21-20 is not 60+% and you obviously did not read the rest of my post. Play the underdog for the FIRST game and then the FAVE thereafter. I suggested before splitting the bet between the RL and ML so if the fave DOES win the first game, you will be refunded if they only win by one run. This eliminates the problem of people losing massively on an ABC series.Comment -
alexknycSBR Wise Guy
- 03-22-11
- 861
#1479You keep moving the goalposts... no one WANTS to lose 40-70 units but IF THAT'S BUSTING YOU, your unit size is too high.Comment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#1480
Firstly, past performance does not guarantee similar results now.
Secondly, you're right, it is a small sample size. All I am doing is putting out an idea that would help people avoid losing an entire ABC series. This system may have been amazing last year or some other year but the fact is that it is still early and there have already been three HUGE losses. Its no surprise people are having doubts now, especially when we know that the backtest revealed a big loss in 2007.Comment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#1481Well I'm not even talking about that. If you can't afford to lose, you shouldn't be gambling period. What I said was that the system should not be losing money. With the proper money management currently, it IS losing money. The problem is therefore not money management, but the system itself.Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
- 01-24-11
- 1233
#1482What are you even talking about? Can you even name a system that has gone 10 years without going negative once? The last time this system went negative was 5 years ago. Even if you played the losing season as your first season with the system, you would still have a substantial net gain by this point from the system. That is not a failure in the slightest.
This always happens on a system that hits a losing streak. Everyone freaks out. If your too timid to handle system anomalies then you shouldn't be playing systems.Comment -
Taro PunkSBR Sharp
- 03-03-12
- 294
#1483where's the faith man? hahaComment -
on3SBR MVP
- 08-23-10
- 2197
#1484in regards to the posts of money management. the $20/unit is based off of a $2000 bankroll at 1%. the system as it stands is -22 units or $440. i dont know how you would lose your entire bankroll if you only lost 25% of it. even if you jumped on the system at its peak +20 units, you are down 42 units, or 42%. if your entire bankroll is gone when the system AT MOST has lost 50%, your other 50% of losses have come from other areas.
System record 37-4-0; 9-0-0
Units -22
1 unit = $20
5/10
#42 -- cleveland @ BOS -147 (A) -- o/u 9 -- eligible for 5/2 if (A) loses
Game 1 win = 21-20; 7-2
Game 2 win = 14-6; 2-0
Game 3 win = 2-3; 0-0
Labby Line (regular)
65-67-82-95
40-40-87-93
85-152-126-134
Labby Line (filter)
10-10-10-10
BOS to win 65
BOS to win 20Comment -
Douchebag50SBR Rookie
- 11-12-11
- 37
#1485https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...a2JWYXc#gid=30
here is a nice dog chase system. it was posted by cisco
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choundSBR High Roller
- 05-27-10
- 158
#1486There's a girl updating it dailyComment -
choundSBR High Roller
- 05-27-10
- 158
#1487Well I'm assuming from the avatar its a girl?Comment -
sstrunks52005SBR Sharp
- 07-15-11
- 251
#1488damn boston is a filtered play too lolComment -
alexknycSBR Wise Guy
- 03-22-11
- 861
#1489Well I'm not even talking about that. If you can't afford to lose, you shouldn't be gambling period. What I said was that the system should not be losing money. With the proper money management currently, it IS losing money. The problem is therefore not money management, but the system itself.
The unit size should be 1% of your bankroll. This system is down 22 units. That should be 22% of your bankroll. The people complaining that this system bankrupted them are down 100%. THAT is a money management issue.Comment -
eric14tsuiSBR High Roller
- 10-19-10
- 187
#1490Finally a filtered play. Can't wait for the game to start.Comment -
boycali01SBR High Roller
- 07-12-07
- 118
#1491let's go BOS. all inComment -
Gamble32jnSBR MVP
- 02-07-12
- 1860
#1492First time i went against the system was when philly lost the 1st game to mets and i fired mets the whole way. Made out for a good pay day. Not to knock the system but i think philly needs to be faded no matter what...LOLComment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#1493What are you even talking about? Can you even name a system that has gone 10 years without going negative once? The last time this system went negative was 5 years ago. Even if you played the losing season as your first season with the system, you would still have a substantial net gain by this point from the system. That is not a failure in the slightest.
This always happens on a system that hits a losing streak. Everyone freaks out. If your too timid to handle system anomalies then you shouldn't be playing systems.Ok. I just checked the last two pages and I get what you and alexknyc are saying. I'm not actually playing the system myself. I was just putting out a suggestion for all those who were saying things like 'I had several thousand two weeks ago, now I only have a few hundred'. Yes, that is a money management problem.
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#1494On3 nailed it right on the dot in his post. People following the labby lines should only be down 42% of their roll at max. My problem was that I was using 1% and constantly changing unit sizes so even though I was in it from the begiinning with 20 net units gained I am still down 42units. constantly changing my unit size was my problem. Also following 2 other systems was my problem.
martingale players I believe are down more since its a straight chase, but shouldn't be broke because of it. Roughly 50-70units max considering a 3 game chase with the juice. Just readjust your unit size and start over; much better idea then going broke on the next 5-6 bets at 5% per bet with only 30units left.Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#1495Ok. I just checked the last two pages and I get what you and alexknyc are saying. I'm not actually playing the system myself. I was just putting out a suggestion for all those who were saying things like 'I had several thousand two weeks ago, now I only have a few hundred'. Yes, that is a money management problem.
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J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
- 11-16-10
- 5154
#1496Also I think the only system in the positive over 10 years would be the NBA system where its a 6 game chase fading the home team on a 3 game road trip each half. Its solamans system I guess.
Good Luck on Boston tonight.
Keep up the good work on3. Im sure now a lot more people understand the variance and can start over with a more open mind and better understanding to sports betting.Comment -
wolvereenSBR Rookie
- 09-29-09
- 44
#1497Beckett not going tonightComment -
dlunc3SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-31-09
- 9129
#1498in regards to the posts of money management. the $20/unit is based off of a $2000 bankroll at 1%. the system as it stands is -22 units or $440. i dont know how you would lose your entire bankroll if you only lost 25% of it. even if you jumped on the system at its peak +20 units, you are down 42 units, or 42%. if your entire bankroll is gone when the system AT MOST has lost 50%, your other 50% of losses have come from other areas.
So just some caution. I am a huge fan of the system and have made great money of it.... but I would urge anyone following to be extremely careful right now. Making 5% bets on a regular, let alone 8% or more!, is a quick way to go bust...
Hopefully a huge streak is ahead... BOL and thanks for the hard work On3 cautionComment -
Ghenghis KahnSBR Posting Legend
- 01-02-12
- 19734
#1499dlunc3 has a good point. people bringing up about bankroll management has no idea what they are talking about. consistently betting 8% of your roll isn't managing your roll properly. boston bet is already looking grim. how many more of these 8% bets can this system lose without breaking your roll? rethink this system before your egos get in the way...Comment -
WVU9494SBR Sharp
- 11-14-11
- 333
#1500Cool, 4-1. Trying to see if I can get down 150 units.Comment -
GndiasSBR MVP
- 11-23-11
- 1607
#1501Comment -
moshiSBR Wise Guy
- 12-18-11
- 801
#1502Still early but Boston has no chance.Comment -
daddyvSBR High Roller
- 10-05-10
- 241
#1503omg this is brutalComment -
xgameSBR Wise Guy
- 07-21-10
- 675
#1504Game overComment -
ChiLLxSBR Hall of Famer
- 12-24-11
- 5412
#1505Red Sox really are a joke
These overrated big market teams have killed this system so farComment
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