on3's MLB 2012 Opening Game system thread 194-8 last year +60 units

**dlunc3** · 05-08-12, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by WVU9494

This thread just single handily wiped me out, and has nothing to do with money management.

yea man... i dont know what to say...im right with you...

**Wallco99** · 05-08-12, 09:17 PM

Doesn't anyone have anything more constructive they can be doing ALL NIGHT except sitting in this thread typing a comment after every pitch? Just wondering. No wonder the Chinese are taking over, they aren't typing, they are DOING!

**AwesomeGuy** · 05-08-12, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Nova99

Cliff Lee, home game, avoid the sweep, books are gonna set the line real high for us chasers morrow...

It's at -195 on pinny right now. Doesn't matter if it's Cliff Lee. Philly's offense is awful and their bullpen is even worse. To top things off, senile Charlie flat out loses games for the team.

**jturn49** · 05-08-12, 09:19 PM

unbelievable! What a bummer. Lee going tomorrow, really gonna be tough to take another loss. Come on fightin' phils

**AwesomeGuy** · 05-08-12, 09:25 PM

Lee will be limited to 80-90 pitches tomorrow.

**WVU9494** · 05-08-12, 09:27 PM

I DID, all day, now I'm griping that I had 7k in my account 2 weeks ago and now have $128.45.

Originally posted by Wallco99

Doesn't anyone have anything more constructive they can be doing ALL NIGHT except sitting in this thread typing a comment after every pitch? Just wondering. No wonder the Chinese are taking over, they aren't typing, they are DOING!

**AwesomeGuy** · 05-08-12, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Doesn't anyone have anything more constructive they can be doing ALL NIGHT except sitting in this thread typing a comment after every pitch? Just wondering. No wonder the Chinese are taking over, they aren't typing, they are DOING!

I worked 9 hours today and I'll be working out in a bit you son of a bitch.

**Wallco99** · 05-08-12, 09:30 PM

Originally posted by WVU9494

I DID, all day, now I'm griping that I had 7k in my account 2 weeks ago and now have $128.45.

That does suck. I would have to agree.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 05-08-12, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Doesn't anyone have anything more constructive they can be doing ALL NIGHT except sitting in this thread typing a comment after every pitch? Just wondering. No wonder the Chinese are taking over, they aren't typing, they are DOING!

oh shut the **** up!!!!!

**Wallco99** · 05-08-12, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by AwesomeGuy

I worked 9 hours today and I'll be working out in a bit you son of a bitch.

As did I, 12 to be exact. I too lost money last night and tonight. But sitting here whining about it all night won't bring it back. Toughen up. Let's move on to the next one. There's not too many guarantees in sports betting, but the fact that this won't be our last loss is.

**dlunc3** · 05-08-12, 09:44 PM

I think Im out boys... been a solid thread for three years and I respect all that on3 and therizz have done.. just nothing more we can do but lose to garbage repeatedly. Its a combination of everything right now... just 9 days ago I was sitting at +14k over the past few months.. now, 9 days later, I am down 7k (21k lost in 9 days

).. wtf???? betting to win less then 1% per unit lol..

I do have faith in this thread, and with a large enough bank roll, I am 100% sure it will be profitable... I am just not sure, while only betting less then 1% per unit, that we can be salvaged right now. We are at the point with our lines that we are betting close to 5% of our rolls on every bet at 1% per unit.. Another tough few days, and the bankroll will be completely wiped... Though I do have faith it will happen, I just cant afford to take that risk right now. I know we are only down close to 20 units, which in the big picture is nothing.. its just gotten to the point in my opinion where we need to just start over completely with fresh lines and accept being down 20 units, or just be done for the yr.. continuing with 5% bets daily is a recipe for trouble.

Back to the grind for me.. love this thread bc it can make you some nice quick profit.. but it obvioiusly is also a chase, and things can go bad quick.
Back to flat betting for me.... Until next yr and the bankroll is replenished... BOL boys, I hope you kill it

**sstrunks52005** · 05-08-12, 09:54 PM

ack I'd take a break, but these losses can't keep coming. Is boston and philly this bad this year?
The wins should start coming in. hopefully

there wasn't this many losses so soon last year was there?

**1gamer** · 05-08-12, 10:15 PM

Although I suspended play prior to the SFG meltdown, there's alot to be said right now about Mr Limit's 5/2 System.

**airattackers** · 05-08-12, 10:30 PM

I think we should put in the over .500 filter now...any thoughts on that?

**Douchebag50** · 05-08-12, 10:45 PM

PHI at -200, plus Lee hasn't gotten any run support this year....His worst outing was against the mets...

**KennyM10** · 05-08-12, 10:48 PM

This got ugly quick
Where is that fraud rizzo now? Should you bet 20 units to win one? What a joke!

**Douchebag50** · 05-08-12, 10:53 PM

Let's keep fading the Mets (they will be favorites against Miami and have won 2 of 3 games by 1 point...so the RL will be a good value) and tailing the Phillies (who will be up against SD) to try to make up for these losses instead of overbetting a -200 line tomorrow.
What do you guys think?

**dlunc3** · 05-08-12, 10:54 PM

Originally posted by KennyM10

This got ugly quick
Where is that fraud rizzo now? Should you bet 20 units to win one? What a joke!

weird.. you trolling in yet another thread

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-08-12, 11:32 PM

I do agree with a lot of things that have been said in this thread but I am not going to add to all the complaints in this thread.

1) If you lost 50% or more of your bankroll it is probably best to start over.
2) having a stagnant unit size is better then using a percentage. Even though we are down 20 units as Dlunc said its actually a lot more for those of us who were using 1% as a unit size and constantly adjusting our unit sizes. We are actually down like... I forgot the peak of this system, but the peak +20 units more so like 40 units a lot of us our down?
3) a small bankroll is better then no bankroll so starting over is probably best or do not follow so blindly. use some of your own capping skills and be very selective with what you follow from here on out.

Going to do some of my own back testing and probably just follow system integrity once I finish back testing.

Good Night all and sorry for those of you who lost sooo much money. I lost a big chunk of my bankroll, but no where near the amount of money everyone else lost in this thread.

Better luck for us all in the future. Hope to keep making money with all of you. We can bust the bookies rest of the season.

**airattackers** · 05-08-12, 11:33 PM

we need to input the above .500 filter...these damn losses are piling up..

**airattackers** · 05-08-12, 11:38 PM

im staying with the system...i just wont touch any teams under .500....

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-08-12, 11:39 PM

BTW thanks for the cisco link I appreciate that. Thats one of the only things positive posted in the last couple pages.

**LoneStar** · 05-08-12, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Doesn't anyone have anything more constructive they can be doing ALL NIGHT except sitting in this thread typing a comment after every pitch? Just wondering. No wonder the Chinese are taking over, they aren't typing, they are DOING!

and this is coming from a guy who has 3,205 post which is 6.67 per day since he signed up...

**daddyv** · 05-09-12, 12:07 AM

****!!!! went from $7500 to $450 in a week...i dont think ive ever lost so much so quickly...this is my first year using a chase system n i can see why people have advised me against it for so long. All i can say is bailing out on an investment when ur down isn't the smartest thing to do. I understand the logic behind cutting ur losses but im sticking with it atleast until the system breaks even n then evaluate if i wanna go forward playing it or not. Lucky for me i still have a decent sized roll so im just gonna stop capping my own plays n hope for the best with the system. GL everyone going forward

**airattackers** · 05-09-12, 12:37 AM

i still think these losses will lead us to a MASSIVE win streak...we need to just be patient!!!

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-09-12, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by airattackers

i still think these losses will lead us to a MASSIVE win streak...we need to just be patient!!!

or a repeat of 2007.... Is it really worth risking?

**AwesomeGuy** · 05-09-12, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

or a repeat of 2007.... Is it really worth risking?

How many units were lost in 2007?

**KennyM10** · 05-09-12, 01:16 AM

Rizzo stop in and remind everyone how you invented this mess

**airattackers** · 05-09-12, 01:49 AM

@kennyM10....grow a bankroll first then come and talk to us...in the meanwhile just LEAVE a$$hole

**moshi** · 05-09-12, 01:56 AM

Guys I have an idea. The unfiltered A-bet plays are 21-20 so far which means its hitting about 50%. Instead of playing the faves and paying higher juice, why not play the underdogs instead? Split the bet between the ML and RL so if the RL hits, your bet is effectively refunded; if ML hits, you make a profit. It seems as if B and C-bets have a better track record so if your A-bet playing the underdog wins, you could bet the favourite for B and C. If the fave wins the first game, you will lose your bet playing the underdog but it means that you won't have to go through a massive ABC loss.

**airattackers** · 05-09-12, 02:07 AM

good idea moshi..we could also skip the a- bet for teams under .500 and just wait for b-bet or c-bet...or just skip the under .500 teams altogether..

**airattackers** · 05-09-12, 02:08 AM

whatever on3 decides is fine with me...

**knugen** · 05-09-12, 02:43 AM

What have you guys done, if you are down from 7500 to 450 dollar, if we lose this C bet tonight im down around 8-9% of my roll, tou really have to adjust your A bet amount!

**Lakey** · 05-09-12, 02:52 AM

Yeah if you're losing 94% of your bank roll on a 20unit loss then you're betting too much. The system will come good.

**AwesomeGuy** · 05-09-12, 03:09 AM

Again, Lee hasn't pitched in 3 weeks and will have a limited pitch count of 80. Betting large on the phillies here is terrible regardless of the outcome. Not sure what we should do. Should we chalk this one up to a loss and regroup of the next series?