hey tough guy, the reason why people follow systems is to minimize gambling. some of us are just saying, you can't keep betting 8% of your bankroll and have faith in the system. there are beginners out there that are blindly following this system and we just want to advise them to lower their bets until this system turns it around. no need for you to come in this thread and act like a tough guy. in the end it's all about risk management. don't categorize good advice with trolling. it's obvious you have no idea what you are doing or else you wouldn't spew out such nonsense. regardless, hope this system returns to the right direction sooner than later...
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Doesn't hurt to just start off with small bets until you get comfortable in betting more and more. Stick around things will turn around. Some few picks i was looking at was taking the giants ML and looking to ride the cards winning streak until it ends. Any thoughts?Comment -
I am waiting for the call by On3. Should be a busy day for us.Comment -
So you mean to tell me that because you, we, whoever follows "a system" that it's no longer gambling? A system is still infallible? It's called GAMBLING for a reason. With or without a system there are aspects of it which you can't control. Therefore my statement remains. If you can't handle the losses then don't gamble, simple. It's not about being tough. People are here crying as if there is 0 expectancy for losses or that it's improbable that the system can go bad.
Secondly, my comments aren't directed at anything constructive. If people are telling others that are blindly following as you put it to reduce their unit bets, that's fine, I have nothing against that. My comments are directed to those who are here simply trolling and running their mouth (Kenny, WVU9494, to name a few). No idea why you felt the need to comment, since I didn't direct it at any one specific person, especially you.
You can check my post history. I don't troll threads, I don't go on people's threads hoping for them and others to lose. I don't wish ill will on anyone so your comments are directed at the wrong person. I'm all about winning as a group and anything constructive. I just don't find 5 pages of bitching and moaning, blaming ON3, and people saying they blew their entire bankroll when the system is only down 22 units to be constructive at all.Comment -
i never said it wasn't gambling, i said to "minimize" gambling. i realize no one put guns to their heads to make these bets but this system is flawed in that if you lose 10 more bets in a row starting now (which is certainly possible), your $2000 starting roll could be in jeopardy. and we're not even in mid-season yet. and you said, "with or without a system there are aspects of it which you can't control." but you can control the bet size. that's all i'm saying.
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we keep forgetting one thing...the red sox are a shitty team and will finish last
...finishing with more then 75 wins will be a miracle
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In essence I agree with almost everything you said, so not really sure what we're arguing about. My comments were at people who offer nothing of substance to this thread.
To reply to your question on minimizing risk. I would personally avoid playing series with certain teams when they can't show they are capable of winning. The Phillies are obviously one of these teams. Oddly enough I plan on backing them this series being that we have Vorley, Doc and Hamels, all who are capable of going 8+ and not turning it over to a disastrous middle relief pitching corps.
In some instances we can evaluate the mindset of each team and their makeup rather than just playing it because it fits the system. Have a more selective approach or just avoid certain teams for now until the system comes full circle ....Comment -
regarding dialing down the units so that we arent betting 5-6 units per play, every play -- we already dialed it back once. instead of two strike per play, we are down to one strike per play. i dont know how to moderate the labby lines so that the newbies in the thread dont go broke. i simply dont know how to control other people's betting amounts. if it gets too rich for you, then play $20 game until you are comfortable or stop with the system all together until it gets rolling again.
if you cannot afford the losses, then please stop playing the system or dial back your own units and manage your own bankroll. this thread is not here to manage everyone's bankroll. it advocates a money management system that has peaks and valleys but at the end of the day shows a way to keep track of wins and losses.
with all that said, I am open to suggestions -- how do you manage a bankroll that is currently in the red, while playing a chase system, without chasing?
System record 37-4-0; 9-0-0
Units -28
1 unit = $20
5/11
#42 -- cleveland @ BOS -119 (B)
#43 -- colorado and LAD -169 (A) -- o/u 7.5
#44 -- la angels @ TEX -145 (A) -- o/u 8.5
#45 -- san diego @ PHI -155 (A) -- o/u 7.5
Game 1 win = 21-21; 7-2
Game 2 win = 14-6; 2-0
Game 3 win = 2-3; 0-0
Labby Line (regular)
85-87-82-100
75-75-87-73
85-152-126-134
Labby Line (filter)
10-10-10-39
BOS to win 75
LAD to win 85
TEX to win 87
PHI to win 82
BOS to win 49 (filtered)
BOS to win 100 -- 1st bet 5/2 systemComment -
I have those first three as plays in my own post. I also added Toronto. gl to us.Comment -
Still hanging in with the system, big turn around night coming.Comment -
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I started playing this system when the detroit game came along. But i played On3 nummers only and with help from the shut out system. Iv only lost like 2-300. I have also played Jm when i'v seen that these dear teams show up their. I'm only playing texas because i have angels in the shutout. I have no faith in boston but i started following on3 because i wanted to follow 5/2, that's what i'v been waitng for. GLComment -
How about a sweep to start the weekend?
Bol tonight, only playing Tex/LA myself.
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I have played this system for over three years and always make good money. I had to chime in because all of the crying. You chase you lose very simple. Just because a team fits in the "system" you dont have to play every single play. Boston is in last place they are always over priced especially at home. So skip it. maybe it wins and you miss out on one unit. Big deal. I really hope some of you guys are playing with expendable money and not mortgage or diaper money.
Play 1% of your bankroll on a two line labby and sit tight.
If you play 8% on a chase you better have 100k bankroll. This is very simple math guys you can chase for 40 games if you have the bankroll. Sounds to me like most of you guys are "outrunning" your bankroll with means you are betting way way to much.
Kind of hard to win if you cant play.
on3 my hat off to you. Posting every day is lots of work. Hard enough keeping my own stats straight. So just wanted to let you know.Comment -
this was a big issue in the past with everyone posting different systems and their own plays. Let on3 run the thread. There is no need to post your own opinions about plays to help others make their money back. If you want to post your plays start your own thread or post in the service section.
As advised many times and since on3 is open to suggestions. Here is a suggestion! Clear all your lines and as advised by "parlay100" start with 1% per line instead of 2% so 5-5-5-5 instead of the 10-10-10-10 and run 2-3 lines like you been doing. Your only down 28 units at this point so once we clear 28 lines the system will be back in the black.
BTW i never really understood back in the black.. I always thought it should be back in the "green" because green = money.
if people want to continue with the lines you have now then let them do it at their own risk. Add a few filters.
Similar to JM NBA road system.
1) dont play a team thats last place on the road.. I.e. dont play a team last place @ home
2) dont play a team under .500
3) stick with 1% per line instead of 2%. It will reduce the profits some from previous years, but it keeps the bets small with steady profit.
4) keep the same unit size through out the season so you have a nice cushion.
5) dont take advice from someone who is playing off short samples.
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Black and red were the colors of the ink bookkeepers used to show profit and loss. Being back in the black meant you were showing a profit again.Comment -
Jason Bartlett was scratched from Friday's lineup against the Phillies due to a stomach virus.
Cameron Maybin was also scratched, so there's evidently something going around the Padres' clubhouse. Andy Parrino will start in his place and bat eighth against right-hander Vance Worley.Comment -
Phillies putting up runs early again.... Now it's just a matter if they can hold it. Hopefully Worley can go deep and eliminate the need for middle relief....
Even Boston is getting in on the act ...Last edited by SlickRick1382; 05-11-12, 06:37 PM.Comment -
Here comes the Phillies bullpen....Comment -
looking good, looking good
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bastardo showing 2011 form
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Middle relief, you are correct... but phills finally just today called up their stud reliever Jake Diekman... kid will be a huge breath of fresh air for this team... Either way, id bet my soul vance, doc or cole goes 8 this weekend vs this light hitting sd lineup... I wouldnt be surprised if 2 or 3 of them did it. Then pap is lights out in the 9th with a lead.
Charlie sat this team down last night and basically told them to get their shit together... last two times (over the last few yrs) he did this, the team responded with monster winning streaks.
If they dont take at least 2/3 vs this padres team this weekend, I burn my season tix and suddenly turn into a texas fan
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This system is great!!!!!!Comment -
Don't screw it Boston.Comment -
BOS, I have hung in there with you. I played you even after you blew an entire series. Don't you even think about blowing this. You owe me bitches.Comment -
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To everyone playing the 5/2 and 4/2 methods, congrats on your first win! Of course Boston pulls through when it qualifies as a 4/2 play
. 5/2 and 4/2 methods now +5 and +4 units respectively.
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After the tumultuous past few series, this is just what the doctor ordered. A nice, calm, cruise control, quiet Friday night. Not a single game ever really in question. For those of us who have suffered in stoic silence, we earned this small ray of sunshine. We've got a week off to recharge our batteries. See you guys on 5.18.Comment -
Congrats for the sweep guys.Comment -
I guess we can all shut up and stop our bitchin for a few daysComment -
4-0 can shut the dogs' mouth up for sure. Take some days off until the next series come up. To spare the time, keep your eyes on the 5 run system.Comment
