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  • KVB
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-29-14
    • 74817

    #421
    For the first game this week with Edmonton and Montreal, there are a number of models, one posted above, that suggest Montreal will win this game. These models have done extremely well early in the season and essentially went 50-50 last week. Again, I am torn between a review and whether to proceed with this week.

    Also up until this week, a progressively sharper line that I have been making has been on the same side as the models mentioned above. This week, I have Edmonton scoring 24 or 25 points to a mere 3 or 7 for Montreal.

    I believe some houses that will get hit with limit bets early on have been keeping this line at a pick ‘em, not divulging a favorite or underdog while other houses have gone ahead with Edmonton -1.

    Despite the number of would be decent bettors that will pound Montreal, I would expect pressure to continue on Edmonton as far as the line is concerned, but not too far, as these Edmonton bettors just got burned last week on a line that was suspiciously small.

    All models indicate a lower score than the early posted total of 45.5 and it is no surprise that we see 45 and even 44.5 in some places. While there is upwards pressure to a certain extent I wouldn’t be surprised to see continual downward pressure on this line. It seems almost everyone will be looking for a defensive game.

    I am carefully weighing certain market metrics and don’t see either of these lines getting away from a potential play. As for now, while I have Edmonton winning convincingly, I may be looking for a pass on this game.

    Here’s something interesting. In every game after week 2 that Montreal has been in, the models have failed against the money line. For some populations of bettors that streak will end and for others, it will continue. Remember, this is the first week that the models are split, indicating separate winners.

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    • KVB
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 05-29-14
      • 74817

      #422
      Notice that the two games on Saturday August 15th opened early around the world with 7.5 point spreads. Many books then opened on 8 to 8.5 for the early game while also opening with 8 for the second game. I wouldn’t be surprised if these lines end up closing in the same spot, but they don’t need too in order to be splitting money, or at least offer the illusion of splitting money. After last week, what can we expect on Saturday? I have an idea and am watching for indicators. I’ll address more on Saturday as we get closer.

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      • HeeluvaGuy
        SBR MVP
        • 02-15-14
        • 3449

        #423
        So what's the deal? Everyone has moved on to preseason NFL?
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        • true degenerate
          SBR Rookie
          • 09-13-13
          • 46

          #424
          I'm doing ALL FOOTBALL! NFL, CFL & CFB.
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          • Viravolta
            SBR Rookie
            • 07-29-15
            • 23

            #425
            Naah... too less info for the preseason. Will wait for the regular NFL. And even then, will wait at least 5-6 weeks to pass. Damn... TOR@SAS game still hurts!
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            • true degenerate
              SBR Rookie
              • 09-13-13
              • 46

              #426
              CFL (8-3)

              Edmonton PK (Win)

              Toronto-6

              Hamilton-8

              Calgary-7
              Last edited by true degenerate; 08-13-15, 10:47 PM.
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              • HeeluvaGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 02-15-14
                • 3449

                #427
                My Thursday night fade is:

                EDM tt u22.5

                No offense, but I hope you're wrong on this one KVB!

                Not sure if I'll have another play for this game.

                GL gents!
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                • noddse
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 05-10-14
                  • 33

                  #428
                  i play the under at hamiltons home game again.
                  they will be w/o their two best receivers fantuz and grant and best running back gable.
                  there is still no game with more than 5 offensive tds at tim hortons field.
                  in the last game, hamilton led 21-0 after 7 minutes, won the game 38-8. but they only had one td drive that started beyond midfield. 2 pick 6es, 2 short td fields after special teams gifts.
                  bc offensively not a team that can put good # on the board. qb lulay is not at 100% after his shoulder injury, has different throwing motion than be4. defense showed improvements during last game, shut out edmonton in 2nd half.

                  can't understand why the total at hamilton home games is still that high (again highest # of the week in cfl). under is 8-0 in regular season games at tim hortons field.
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                  • HeeluvaGuy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-15-14
                    • 3449

                    #429
                    Looks like EDM will close as a small dog.
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                    • KVB
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 05-29-14
                      • 74817

                      #430
                      Originally posted by KVB
                      ...I believe some houses that will get hit with limit bets early on have been keeping this line at a pick ‘em, not divulging a favorite or underdog while other houses have gone ahead with Edmonton -1.

                      Here’s something interesting. In every game after week 2 that Montreal has been in, the models have failed against the money line. For some populations of bettors that streak will end and for others, it will continue. Remember, this is the first week that the models are split, indicating separate winners…
                      It seems I was correct initially that there would be pressure on Edmonton as those houses holding at a pick ‘em moved to Edmonton -1.

                      But now we see plenty of late buying, or at least line movement, on Montreal to move them to a favorite.
                      This is the first time since the first game of week 2 that a line has crossed the pick ‘em.

                      In that game, Hamilton opened as -3 and became an underdog in many places, they won 52-26.

                      Given what I said about this being the first week that models are split, I am not surprised to see the line cross the pick.

                      Here’s something else that is interesting. In every game after week 2, the models have been failing against the moneyline, every time. Perhaps a little parlay killing going on here. Once again, we will see a split here.

                      I am going out on an edge to counter this trend with a sharper model this week and go against the broader movement to pick up Edmonton Eskimos +2 (-107) and Edmonton Eskimos +115 over Montreal Alouettes.

                      I believe some of the less sophisticated models that have worked very well will begin to get outpaced by the markets and reality. This is a macro view, of course.

                      Like the last play I made, I consider this play with higher risk. The truth is there are plenty of reasons to pass on this game as it will tell us a bit about moneyflow and in so many ways it splits the money.

                      I am taking a risk by trying to guess the direction the markets are headed in terms of steering money. If I’m wrong, we’ll at least have more information for the rest of the week.

                      The scarier truth seems to be that this whole week could be a pass, or at least that’s how it appears with the information we have.

                      If you read this thread, you’ll see that plays I make that I warn carry risk, don’t seem to do as well. You may notice I limit positions is those.

                      Tread lightly and proceed with caution, remember, this is the first game of the week.

                      Good Luck

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                      • KVB
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 05-29-14
                        • 74817

                        #431
                        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                        Looks like EDM will close as a small dog.
                        I couldn't focus on the markets much the last couple of days but it would be nice to have Montreal +1 and Edmonton +2.

                        Would be nice.

                        I may have bitten off a more than I wanted with the Edmonton winner bet, I think a safe +2 could have been enough. I get the feeling this is going to be a tough issue to settle.

                        Montreal winning by one point would be the least desirable answer in terms of identifying the flow of money.

                        Usually when we can identify the least desirable outcome, it becomes the reality.

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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #432
                          Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                          My Thursday night fade is:

                          EDM tt u22.5

                          No offense, but I hope you're wrong on this one KVB!

                          Not sure if I'll have another play for this game.

                          GL gents!

                          This line has dropped to 21.5 and I only figured 24 or 25 points, at best.

                          Montreal's defense has been about average while Edmonton's offense about the same. It's Edmonton's defense that brings this game down in total.

                          We could very, very easily see one less score for Edmonton and one more score for Montreal.

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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #433
                            I still think this issue is going to be tougher to settle than a 10 point game and have picked up LIVE Edmonton Eskimos +9.5 (-110) over Montreal Alouettes.

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                            • HeeluvaGuy
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-15-14
                              • 3449

                              #434
                              I'm adding a middle opportunity here:

                              2h EDM tt o11.5 (-110)

                              4 point window with some key numbers in there.

                              GL!
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                              • drfunkmaster
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-29-08
                                • 11162

                                #435
                                montreal about to lose this game. unreal they are garbage
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                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-15-14
                                  • 3449

                                  #436
                                  Welp. No middle...
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                                  • KVB
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 05-29-14
                                    • 74817

                                    #437
                                    Originally posted by Snine
                                    Hey KVB I have a off topic question for you. Been following this thread and you seem to be pretty knowledgeable in what you do.

                                    Are you flat betting a set amount when you place your bets? Or betting in proportion to your perceived edge?
                                    I am a firm believer in flat betting. Some math guys will probably disagree, but for sports betting over the long haul the Kelly Criterion and similar progressive betting schemes simply too risky, they don’t work.

                                    When I say flat betting, also, I don’t mean a flat percentage of current bankroll. I mean to say a flat percentage of a starting bankroll. Changing the size of your bets should be done the fewest times possible as it changes your breakeven point and can be very expensive.

                                    I could write nonstop on that subject.

                                    That said, for this thread I have a separate section of my normal bankroll set aside for a slightly different strategy.

                                    Sometimes I take a partial unit on a position only to add more on a move. This is when I know I will be buying more on more price changes or moves.

                                    Most of the time I am betting one unit per entry point into the market up to a limit of maximum risk. It could be viewed as betting up to one unit, and other bets are partial units.

                                    I am fluctuating my risk per game, but this a slightly different game. Using this type of market analysis I can deem certain prices as advantageous and confirm or disconfirm with movement.

                                    There are also limit issues to deal with.

                                    This is a bit aggressive. Like I said, I am trying to increase the edge by pulling off of some losers. In a sense, I am betting in proportion to my perceived edge as I have some riskier plays with just an edge getting only one bold play, one unit.

                                    I hope this helps. For this thread know that if I am pulling the trigger many times, I do like the play better than others.

                                    To this I would normally say…in the end only the big bets will count. But with this segmented bankroll and for the purposes of this thread I will keep making the smaller plays, and keep playing aggressive.

                                    I don’t recommend this type of play for someone just using a model or just making plays with no more justification than the numbers...jiggling your bet size costs money and in the end only the big bets will count.

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                                    • KVB
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 05-29-14
                                      • 74817

                                      #438
                                      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                      I'm adding a middle opportunity here:

                                      2h EDM tt o11.5 (-110)

                                      4 point window with some key numbers in there.

                                      GL!
                                      Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                      Welp. No middle...
                                      Keep your eye out the next couple of weeks, this bet could come back to you. Watch carefully; compare your model's number to what just happened. It doesn't have to be Edmonton either, it could be any team. This could be hard to decipher too. Hell, it could be this week, but any attempts this week could be traps. It's a tough call, but I think there will be a call.

                                      Not a bad try here but very solid on your original play of Under 22.5.

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                                      • KVB
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-29-14
                                        • 74817

                                        #439
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        …there are a number of models, one posted above, that suggest Montreal will win this game. These models have done extremely well early in the season and essentially went 50-50 last week…

                                        Also up until this week, a progressively sharper line that I have been making has been on the same side as the models mentioned above. This week, I have Edmonton scoring 24 or 25 points to a mere 3 or 7 for Montreal...
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        ...Here’s something interesting. In every game after week 2 that Montreal has been in, the models have failed against the money line. For some populations of bettors that streak will end and for others, it will continue. Remember, this is the first week that the models are split, indicating separate winners...
                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                        ...Here’s something else that is interesting. In every game after week 2, the models have been failing against the moneyline, every time. Perhaps a little parlay killing going on here. Once again, we will see a split here.

                                        I am going out on an edge to counter this trend with a sharper model this week and go against the broader movement to pick up Edmonton Eskimos +2 (-107) and Edmonton Eskimos +115 over Montreal Alouettes.

                                        I believe some of the less sophisticated models that have worked very well will begin to get outpaced by the markets and reality. This is a macro view, of course...
                                        It seems the sharper model may have prevailed, this time. Many houses had significant line moves towards Montreal and it seemed an all-out fire sale to the public.

                                        Do you think the books may have recognized the split in models? Do you think there is a reason Edmonton was favored by 1 to start with? What if Edmonton had opened favored by more? Could there be future bets because of this game? Look at what happened last time the line crossed the pick ‘em.

                                        These are some things to think about.

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                                        • KVB
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 05-29-14
                                          • 74817

                                          #440
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          ...It seems almost everyone will be looking for a defensive game...
                                          And they got it.
                                          Further, I had Montreal scoring basically 3 or 7 points, that's basically one or two scores.

                                          LOL at the fumble recovered for a TD. And picks and missed field goals by Edmonton.

                                          Sounds like sharper models holding similar scores to mine might be emboldened. They have plenty of excuses on why Edmonton didn’t get more points and saw Edmonton’s defense do its job. And of course, they won then bet.

                                          Remember what happens when bettors get “emboldened.”

                                          Expect there to be repercussions.

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                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-15-14
                                            • 3449

                                            #441
                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                            Keep your eye out the next couple of weeks, this bet could come back to you. Watch carefully; compare your model's number to what just happened. It doesn't have to be Edmonton either, it could be any team. This could be hard to decipher too. Hell, it could be this week, but any attempts this week could be traps. It's a tough call, but I think there will be a call.

                                            Not a bad try here but very solid on your original play of Under 22.5.

                                            I won't lose any sleep over losing the 2h play. I had 20-1 on a 4 point window that included 20 and 21. The second half total finished at 8 with 4 points left on the board by the idiot kicker (yes, I know the game plays out differently at the end if he makes those FGs). I deviated a bit from my model (had EDM at 18 after my final tinkering and needed 19 to win the 2h), but I thought it was worth the gamble at 20-1.

                                            Even though my model had MTL winning, there were some things I didn't like with that side, so I'm pleased that I was able to filter that play out in favor of the winning team total play. In hindsight, the overall under was obviously a good play as well, and that's something from my model I should have followed.
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #442
                                              I think the key is the defense of Edmonton. At this moment, the Edmonton defense could be twice as good as the next best team. Of course, these ratings will change as we move through the season.

                                              After taking tonight into account, I will essentially end up with the same defensive rating for Edmonton the next time they play. Of course, the market context will be different.

                                              And yeah, it looks like we all missed a good Under tonight.
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #443
                                                I mentioned a quarterly review each time and have a basic one here. I have listed the plays posted in this thread from weeks 3, 4 and 5.

                                                I have broken this down into the all bold plays I’ve listed as well as just the first buy point for each game. On the left is my record per game. If you just entered the market once on my play then that would be an issue.

                                                You can see the results per $100 bet for each bold play and each issue.

                                                There is also a crude review of the closing line and whether it was beat…something I wasn’t concerned with too much these weeks and doesn’t account for prices.

                                                Finally you can see whether I, or the models being worked with, predicted the line movement. While I didn’t always get the best line, there were no unpredictable movements on these plays.

                                                For the 12 games, the early season models being used were 10-2 ATS and 5-7 against the moneylines (which means little without the prices). The models were 5-5 against the Totals, with 2 games right on the spread.


                                                Issue $100 Bet Closing Beat the Predict
                                                Record Play Result Per Bold Per Issue Price Closer? Movement?
                                                1-0 9-Jul Ott/Edm OVER 45.5 (-108) W 92.59 92.59 45.5 = Y
                                                1-0-1 10-Jul BC -3 (-105) P 0 0 -3 = Y
                                                2-0-1 17-Jul Edm -145 W 68.97 68.97 -150 + Y
                                                3-0-1 BC/SSK UNDER 51.5 (-103) W 97.09 97.09 52 - Y
                                                3-1-1 24-Jul Cal/Ott Under 47.5 (-110) L -100 -100 46.5 - Y
                                                Cal/Ott Under 47 (-110) L -100
                                                3-2-1 BC -3 (+102) L -100 -100 -2 - Y
                                                BC -2.5 (-115) L -100
                                                BC -2 (-108) L -100
                                                4-2-1 Cal/Ott 2nd UNDER 24 (-110) W 90.91 90.91 24 = Y
                                                5-2-1 25-Jul Win/Edm UNDER 50.5 (-102) W 98.04 98.04 50.5 = Y
                                                Win/Edm UNDER 51 (-112) W 89.29
                                                6-2-1 Win TT UNDER 22.5 (-110) W 90.91 90.91 22.5
                                                7-2-1 26-Jul Hamilton +1 (-101) W 99.01 99.01 1.5 - Y
                                                Hamilton +2 (-105) W 95.24
                                                Hamilton +1.5 (+102) W 102
                                                7-2-1 424.05 437.52
                                                Notice that a bettor betting on each game fared slightly better than the bettor picking up each bold play.

                                                Looking back I can see one too many BC bets, or this condition would be different.

                                                The win-loss record per issue was 7-2-1; one of those wins is against a money line.

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                                                • KVB
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 05-29-14
                                                  • 74817

                                                  #444
                                                  Here are the results of the second quarter so far. The totals at the bottom are up to date and are also listed with the 1st quarter results included.

                                                  Issue $100 Bet Closing Beat the Predict
                                                  Record Play Result Per Bold Per Issue Price Closer? Movement?
                                                  0-1 30-Jul BC -200 L -100 -100 -140 - Y
                                                  0-2 BC -4.5 (-110) L -100 -100 -2.5 - Y
                                                  BC -2.5 (-110) L -100
                                                  BC -4.5 (+107) L -100
                                                  BC -155 L -100
                                                  BC -2.5 (-105) L -100
                                                  BC -3 (+107) L -100
                                                  BC -135 L -100
                                                  BC -127 L -100
                                                  1-2 31-Jul SSK/Edm UNDER 48 (-108) W 92.59 92.59 47.5 + Y
                                                  2-2 Edm -10 (+100) W 100 100 -9.5 - Y
                                                  Edm -9.5 (-105) W 95.24
                                                  Edm -10 (+105) W 105
                                                  Edm -10 (+107) W 107
                                                  Edm -9 (-108) W 92.59
                                                  3-2 Edm 2nd -3.5 (-106) W 94.34 94.34 =
                                                  4-2 1-Aug Cal -200 W 50 50 -220 + Y
                                                  4-3 Mon/Cal OVER 47.5 (-105) L -100 -100 48 + Y
                                                  5-3 Cal 2nd -210 W 47.62 47.62 -210 = Y
                                                  6-3 3-Aug Ham -3.5 (-106) W 94.34 94.34 -3.5 = Y
                                                  6-4 Tor/Ham OVER 53.5 L -100 -100 53.5 = Y
                                                  7-4 6-Aug Edm/BC OVER 47 (-106) W 94.34 94.34 46.5 - Y
                                                  8-4 7-Aug Mon/Ott OVER 46.5 (-106) W 94.34 94.34 46 - Y
                                                  Mon/Ott OVER 46.5 (-102) W 98.04
                                                  Mon/Ott OVER 46.5 (-103) W 97.09
                                                  Mon/Ott OVER 46.5 (-110) W 90.91
                                                  Mon/Ott OVER 46.5 (+100) W 100
                                                  Mon/Ott OVER 46.5 (-101) W 99.01
                                                  Mon/Ott OVER 46.5 (-105) W 95.24
                                                  Mon/Ott OVER 46 (-105) W 95.24
                                                  8-5 9-Aug Win/Ham OVER 52.5 (-105) L -100 -100 52 - Y
                                                  9-5 13-Aug Edm +2 (-107) W 93.46 93.46 1.5 + Y
                                                  10-5 Edm +115 W 115 115 105 + Y
                                                  11-5 Edm LIVE +9.5 (-110) W 90.91 90.91
                                                  11-5 842.3 466.94
                                                  7-2-1 1st Quarter Results 424.05 437.52
                                                  18-7-1 1266.35 904.46

                                                  The bettor going with the bold plays has taken a small lead over the bettors betting each game.

                                                  Once again we can see BC doing most of the damage on the bold plays.

                                                  The total win loss record per issue to date is 18-7-1; 4 of those wins and 1 loss are against the money line.

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                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                    • 3449

                                                    #445
                                                    Friday night fade:

                                                    TOR tt o26.5 (-110)

                                                    GL folks!
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #446
                                                      For tonight’s game between Toronto and Winnipeg I have Toronto scoring 27 or 28 points to Winnipeg’s 16 or 17.

                                                      Many models do have a closer score but most have Toronto winning. Toronto’s offense and defense are about average while Winnipeg’s offense, even with the starting QB, has been less than average and the Winnipeg defense has had some trouble.

                                                      Of course, having faced the well playing defense of Edmonton can be taken into account.

                                                      The QB question obviously only hurts the cause. The line opened with Toronto -6.5 and a total of 48.

                                                      The -6.5 has seen nothing but downward pressure as many have Winnipeg playing a closer game than I do, similar to Montreal yesterday.

                                                      The total has ticked up slightly to 48.5. I can see why there is some pressure on the Over but that has clearly been mitigated by the key injury.

                                                      I think there is some market manipulation occurring in this game and will be interested to see if there are late moves towards Toronto or the Under.

                                                      I don’t like what I see here and have decided to pass on the side and total. This could change with certain movements.

                                                      I believe with back to back games tomorrow, and the books effort to split the bettors there, we may have a play.

                                                      One final note…the earliest line I saw for this game was from BETUS. In an effort to release an early line, before the QB announcement, they had Winnipeg -2.5 with a total of 47.5.

                                                      With the QB news, the total opened elsewhere a little higher and of course the side changed. With total holding steady and the favorite dropping, I wonder if BETUS knows something here.

                                                      Good Luck

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                                                      • KVB
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                        • 74817

                                                        #447
                                                        Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                        Friday night fade:

                                                        TOR tt o26.5 (-110)

                                                        GL folks!
                                                        If I see the right moves, I may go ahead with an Over in this game.

                                                        I think you have a pretty good play here guy.

                                                        Good Luck.

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                                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 02-15-14
                                                          • 3449

                                                          #448
                                                          It's not the most sophisticated model in the world, but I actually generate six lines for each game (my CFB model will have either 8 or 12 lines this year). I then weigh those lines, do a little research, throw in some eye of newt, and come up with my plays.

                                                          My totals for Toronto tonight are 31.9, 31.3, 27.7, 27.9, 28.4, and 23.1. I *think* the last number is an outlier. And regardless, there are reasons not in the numbers to believe the Argos go over the 26.5 line.

                                                          But nothing is ever certain in this game...

                                                          GL to everyone, whatever you play.
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                                                          • KVB
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 05-29-14
                                                            • 74817

                                                            #449
                                                            I do like that Toronto team total for a number of reasons and am tempted in the game Over here. There’s just something about this game that bugs me, drawing me away.

                                                            I’m going to make a mental bet on the Over 48.5 and Toronto -5 tonight. If that line moves starts to tick upward in the next fifteen minutes, then I may be looking for a halftime bet.

                                                            I can identify a few ways in which this result can steer money and balance out. I will be watching closely.

                                                            Speaking of things that tend to balance, we haven’t seen a favorite cover the spread in a game that has gone over the total in five weeks. In fact, it’s only happened twice this season.

                                                            I see a couple of instances where that could occur this week. For my analysis, it seems best to watch this game, exercising patience, and take another look at halftime.

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                                                            • KVB
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 05-29-14
                                                              • 74817

                                                              #450
                                                              Originally posted by KVB
                                                              ...I’m going to make a mental bet on the Over 48.5 and Toronto -5 tonight. If that line moves starts to tick upward in the next fifteen minutes, then I may be looking for a halftime bet...
                                                              Indeed, that line did tick upward, in many places to -5.5.

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                                                              • KVB
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 05-29-14
                                                                • 74817

                                                                #451
                                                                Toronto trailing by 2 are favored by 3 at the half. Could be a long night for Toronto. No bets for me. I will root for a low score, when analyzing the markets like this, it can be extremely helpful to lose the mental bets...with patience we can find the winners.

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                                                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 02-15-14
                                                                  • 3449

                                                                  #452
                                                                  Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                                  Friday night fade:

                                                                  TOR tt o26.5 (-110)

                                                                  GL folks!
                                                                  Got it. On to tomorrow...
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                                                                  • KVB
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                                    • 74817

                                                                    #453
                                                                    Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                                                    Friday night fade:

                                                                    TOR tt o26.5 (-110)

                                                                    GL folks!
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                                                                    • KVB
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                                      • 74817

                                                                      #454
                                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                                      For tonight’s game between Toronto and Winnipeg I have Toronto scoring 27 or 28 points to Winnipeg’s 16 or 17.

                                                                      Many models do have a closer score but most have Toronto winning...

                                                                      ...The -6.5 has seen nothing but downward pressure as many have Winnipeg playing a closer game than I do, similar to Montreal yesterday...
                                                                      And just like yesterday, the sharper model prevailed. The difference is in the team totals of the winner. Yesterday was Under, today was Over.

                                                                      HeeluvaGuy hit on both plays.

                                                                      A key missed extra point kept tonight’s game Under all lines. Not losing the over bet tonight not only saves money, but we also have one more piece to this week’s puzzle…one of the benefits of being patient.

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                                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                                        • 3449

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                                                                        First play for Saturday:

                                                                        BC tt u20.5 (-110)

                                                                        I have a hunch this goes down before kickoff.

                                                                        I'm thinking of adding a side play on this game, and possibly two plays on the late game. We'll see...

                                                                        GL with whatever you choose!
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