Are People actually Dumb enough to believe the NBA is Rigged?

[mikemca]

The NBA is a bunch of fixed bullshit but what time is the game?

[mikemca]

[akphidelt]

Lolno offencedude but you're the one who's presening themselves as uneducated. Nobody is saying that yhe entire sport is rigged or every game is rigged. But if you can't understand that wherever there is money involved (stskeholders) there are agendas, then you are truly an idiot. Certaimn officialas have certain agendas, not every game or every play, but when the agenda is there it is easy to identify. Youre obviously making zero money or know nothing about sports handicapping so have fun losin money. If you've actually been watching the games and you can't identify the ones where there was significant favoritism (edge) on one side, you're stupid as shit haha

Lol, you guys are crazy people. Cannot possibly be adults. Yes, businesses have agendas to profit doesn't mean they all break the law and commit crimes and deal with shadowy figures in the background to rig everything. That's the uneducated thought process I'm referring to.

[akphidelt]

Your so full of crap,you said fixing doesn't happen on a high level,I proved that to be total bunk.

How much income does that Italian soccer league make? And by the way I was referring to the high level sports in America. I brought up soccer because I didn't want people to use that as a logical fallacy towards the NBA. But, you really took it to the next level, lol.

[akphidelt]

The NBA is a bunch of fixed bullshit but what time is the game?

Hahahaha, now that's funny.

[daneblazer]

[daneblazer]

[daneblazer]

[James Marques]

[packerd_00]

How much income does that Italian soccer league make? And by the way I was referring to the high level sports in America. I brought up soccer because I didn't want people to use that as a logical fallacy towards the NBA. But, you really took it to the next level, lol.

Im not sure about the league but I know one of the teams that was heavily involved in the match fixing, Juventus makes over 300 million a year in annual revenue.

[Menses]

Retired FBI agent Warren Flagg, a 20-year veteran of the bureau, said he consulted with Cuban after that playoff debacle. Flagg now runs his own New York-based investigation and security firm. He looked deep into officiating, as Flagg said, Cuban was considering a lawsuit.
“Cuban asked me what he should do,” Flagg said of the 2006 Finals. “I told him, ‘Sue and you’ll win your case,’ but he knew he’d be killing the Golden Goose.”
When asked about his discussions with Flagg, Cuban said: “I don’t remember.”

Cuban could only go so far...Stern promised him payback and he got it in 2011 when Lebron threw the series pretending to be scared to shoot...LOL....what a farce...Lebron has a very guilty look on his face when he is throwing a game...this man has not played poker a day in his life....Love him as a player...but he is too obvious....he is not a crooked guy by nature...so it doesn't look good on him...Wade was far more convincing...it is no wonder he cheats on his women so well and flops as well as he does...he's a natural born con-artist....glad mavs won though...they earned it...kind of...hahaha

[James Marques]

Cuban could only go so far...Stern promised him payback and he got it in 2011 when Lebron threw the series pretending to be scared to shoot...LOL....what a farce...glad mavs won though...they earned it...kind of...hahaha

Adding layers of complexity......

[Menses]

Why do you guys watch then? If its all fixed bullshit? Lewis, Allen, and Wade were sinking 3s right and left and if Bosh makes the last one then Miami wins. Yeah thats some fix! Has it happened before...yes....does all the home cooking and star treatment in the NBA suck...definitely.....but that doesn't mean that every time some clown loses a bet by a point that it was fixed. In the 4Q last night at one point...James was 0-3 and the rest of the Heat were 8 for 10. So obviously LeBron is the only one fixing the game then...by your dumba$$ logic???? One of the top players of alltime is fixing a game to increase TV revenue....Riiigggghhttttt

I watch for the same reasons I still date women, watch the WWE when I was young, etc...no matter how much BS they give you...you still love pussy...wrestling was too entertaining to not watch in the 80's no matter how fake it was........the 2nd round this year has been a joke..easy money to be made betting on the script....easiest its been in years...

I never said everytime some clown looses a bet...its rigged...LOL....look at my season thread....i hit my last 5 posted plays and a dozen more...and the board is littered with posts of mine saying the games are rigged...

http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basketball-betting/2659248-nba-season-long-picks-p5.html

You will notice I was not on Miami last night...i laid the f u c k off that game for a reason...I wonder why that is? LOLOL...The best boxers of all time threw fights..baseball players threw games..etc...you got to come across on this issue sooner or later...basketball is not immune....dun worry game 7 will be called fairly until Miami starts loosing...hahaaha...

[Menses]

Keep in mind, I know this Menses guy posting all these conspiracy videos. He also thinks the 9/11 jets were holograms and that the passenger in JFK's car shot him. He's a real life conspiracy loon.

LOL you haven't changed a bit....just like old times...and lay off them straw man arguments....stay on the subject....and it was not the passenger who shot JFK...it was the driver...William Greer...

[bob6199]

can we close this thread, this is such a useless thread and only generating idiot responses, threads like this should be deleted right away so it doesn't clog other useful threads.

[Menses]

Folks starting to see through the BS...you gotta love it....next thing you know...they find out the easter bunny isn't real...LOL

Silver probably on the phone with Bird and Vogel right now.."I gift wrap you an easy win and you almost f u c it up even though Lebron was on the bench...the fuc am I paying you for? Get it together...and tell that c o c s u c k e r ..Lance i got something he can blow on....do it again and i'll fine him half a mill...." LMAO

[Menses]

can we close this thread, this is such a useless thread and only generating idiot responses, threads like this should be deleted right away so it doesn't clog other useful threads.

All you have to do is ignore the thread...instead you lobbying to have the whole conversation shut down....Is this what people do when the truth hurts huh? LOL....

[Eddy Munny]

Since when does winning a bet prove you case for the NBA being rigged? This is the same tired, insubstantial shit you space cadets fall back on when all else fails.

For the record, I had the Pacers winning last night also, and was confident enough to actually wager it (as opposed to simply "staying away"). So then I guess that proves that the game was not rigged right?

[44 Mag]

serious question, are people actually dumb enough to believe that the nba rigs games? I hear people say it, and i'm not sure if they seriously believe it or not because it is so stupid. I personally call it gambler's paranoia... Because only a degenerate gambler can believe in such silly conspiracy theories. And yea, some international 3rd world country soccer was fixed and college basketball players where players make $0 threw games were rigged... But the nba? A multi billion dollar global business? And please don't mention bernie madoff or enron as if every business in the world is corrupt and those were the only ones that got caught. Just uneducated nonsense.

What would the logistics even be? Stern or silver who make millions of dollars a year going to refs and telling them to fix a game? They are millionaires controlling a billion dollar organization... None of them would put that liability on themselves unless they were mentally insane. Even the one ref who was caught being a degenerate gambler had absolutely no evidence on the nba fixing games. He had no evidence of stern or any high level official telling them to fix a game a certain way, he had no juicy information of vegas ceo's coming through and telling them to fix games, or the mafia, or millions of dollars exchanging hands. He dealt with low level local gamblers and provided them crap information about what refs felt like about players or coaches.

Absolutely nothing of value. Be honest, for those of you guys who believe the nba is fixed... How many of you own an armadillo helmet?

enough with this thread!!!! Who cares???? Can somebody delete this??? I mean wtf ????

[akphidelt]

enough with this thread!!!! Who cares???? Can somebody delete this??? I mean wtf ????

Feel free to skip it. No one is asking you to comment.

[Eddy Munny]

If nothing else, this thread has taught me that I can get some juicy, inside information on NBA games from "Roxie," the coke addicted, go-go dancing, high school dropout and single mother of three, down at the local strip joint. This will definitely revolutionize the way I handicap basketball.

Thanks again gasto and yes, you did confuse me with another poster in your last post. I can't say I'm surprised though, the "riggers" crowd are easily befuddled.

[daneblazer]

enough with this thread!!!! Who cares???? Can somebody delete this??? I mean wtf ????

Nice try commissioner Stern. Thread remains

[akphidelt]

Nice try commissioner Stern. Thread remains

Hahaha, now that is funny.

[Eddy Munny]

Stern's not the commish anymore. But I don't see why he would object. All this thread has done is mostly paint the riggers as complete crackpots. No harm to the league done. If anything, the commish in charge of soccer is probably a little sweaty because everytime anyone asks for evidence of shady practices in the NBA, they're met with a litany of soccer game malpractice.

[akphidelt]

Stern's not the commish anymore. But I don't see why he would object. All this thread has done is mostly paint the riggers as complete crackpots. No harm to the league done. If anything, the commish in charge of soccer is probably a little sweaty because everytime anyone asks for evidence of shady practices in the NBA, they're met with a litany of soccer game malpractice.

There are 3 things that will be brought up when people try to prove the NBA is fixed...

1) 2002 WCF game 6
2) Donaghy
3) International soccer

I tried to touch on two of those in the OP because I knew they would come up, but they still came up anyways, lol. They just can't be stopped. I mean you think if you believed something you would have much better evidence.

[Eddy Munny]

Yup, the first two are 10+ years old. Not to mention Donaghy served time for his offenses. And the third one is a different sport altogether, played in different countries.

Apart from those three, it's all enormous reaches of the circumstantial variety like "Ibaka played a bit too well for my liking so something's not right."

[packerd_00]

There are 3 things that will be brought up when people try to prove the NBA is fixed...

1) 2002 WCF game 6
2) Donaghy
3) International soccer

I tried to touch on two of those in the OP because I knew they would come up, but they still came up anyways, lol. They just can't be stopped. I mean you think if you believed something you would have much better evidence.

Actually according to Forbes Juventus makes more in annual revenue then the LA Lakers. So honestly if a team with that sortof bankroll is cheating why is it impossible to believe the NBA teams could resort to the same dubious actions.

[akphidelt]

Yup, the first two are 10+ years old. Not to mention Donaghy served time for his offenses. And the third one is a different sport altogether, played in different countries.

Apart from those three, it's all enormous reaches of the circumstantial variety like "Ibaka played a bit too well for my liking so something's not right."

Haha, some of the better ones were there are magnets in the ball and rims. Or they change the size of the rims, lol. It's hilarious how little evidence they have yet they believe it like it's a scientific fact. Gamblers paranoia!

[akphidelt]

Actually according to Forbes Juventus makes more in annual revenue then the LA Lakers. So honestly if a team with that sortof bankroll is cheating why is it impossible to believe the NBA teams could resort to the same dubious actions.

I did 2 min of research on that so maybe I missed something but Juventus wasn't caught fixing games, their coach was suspended for hiding the fact some of the games in the lower league he coached in before were fixed. Regardless any country other than America to me is 3rd world and I really don't care about Italian soccer leagues

[Eddy Munny]

The magnetic rim and basketballs, along with the rim that changes diameter at the push of a button, is hilarious. I was actually shocked when I heard that one, and I'm still uncertain as to whether they were serious or trolling. It's hard to imagine people believe in that stuff. I really would rather not waste my time in breaking down why that "theory" is implausible and more than likely indicates it's espousers suffer from some severe intellectual disability.

[packerd_00]

I did 2 min of research on that so maybe I missed something but Juventus wasn't caught fixing games, their coach was suspended for hiding the fact some of the games in the lower league he coached in before were fixed. Regardless any country other than America to me is 3rd world and I really don't care about Italian soccer leagues

No that's a crock it was quite a few teams that were involved in fixing their games. I know your ignorant to the world but cheating goes on everywhere makes no difference if its America or Timbuktu.

[James Marques]

Menses "Script" Predictions look sharp when they come true, but how about when they don't? Well, we assume the script has been re-written of course!

Its a comical to watch...Amir Johnson out of the game as soon as gets hot...but the script has now been rewritten for the Clippers who will be sports story of the year...Imagine the headlines if they win....the NBA will benefit from them winning..in more ways than one...calling it now....

Result: Clippers fall in 6 games to OKC in 2nd round.

Next up: San Antonio, with a chance to sweep the regular season against Golden State. He's referring to referee Joe Crawford here.

Remember folks...this is the same man who once gave Tim Duncan a technical foul for laughing while sitting on the bench...lolol....I dun care how many players are out for the Warriors tonight...or that its a back to back....never mind the spread...i put a little on the ML as well...enjoy!!!!!!!

Result: San Antonio boatraces Golden State.

Clippers will win the title, or they won't? Bold predictions from this supposed NBA Bible.

Players are in on point shaving from time to time...is it possible Paul is throwing games? maybe...but I won't say yes...the Clippers winning a title this year would be a major story that would draw in a lot of viewers and interest in the league from non fans....Heat vs Clippers would break attendance and TV records easily...but I also see why the league would want the Clippers gone...

Crawford again, and OKC

LOL....I have said time and time again....anytime Crawford is involved in an NBA game...expect something crazy to happen...he will do the same thing to Memphis in game 6...lol

Result: Thunder win by 20, referees have ZERO impact.

Vegas making a ton of money off Heat backers...
Thread Title: Looks like the Heat won't be repeating this year..!!

And vegas is having a field day...and it might not be the Pacers who knock them off....it may very well be Toronto or Brooklyn....yikes!!!

1 day later...

The NBA will likely not allow Miami to loose..lol...it would be a ratings disaster for the league...however, as much as I despise jjgold...I must agree with his assessment...the Heat with no assistance from the Refs could very well loose to Brooklyn if the nets do end up with the 5th seed and defeat Chicago to advance to the 2nd round....which of course is where they would meet Miami...Miami is beginning to look and sound just like 2003 and 2004 Lakers...lackadaisical defense, dissension within the ranks and no chemistry...they are ripe for an early exit...but they might very well be point shaving faking it on defense as they often do and end up crushing the east...until a knock down drag out with Indy...who knows....

That last one is my favorite. Can't play defense, or they might be faking it.
It's pretty easy to say the NBA follows some kind of script if you constantly point to both sides of the action as evidence. Me, I'm gonna stick with what's simple: I believe that players and coaches work their asses off to try to win, rather than a complicated plot involving refs, coaches, players, and league officials to follow some scripted storyline (and trade perks) to create false drama, thereby increasing TV ratings and generating more profit.

[akphidelt]

No that's a crock it was quite a few teams that were involved in fixing their games. I know your ignorant to the world but cheating goes on everywhere makes no difference if its America or Timbuktu.

The fact that cheating goes on in soccer does not surprise me. 3rd world countries are corrupt. I'm talking about America here and there is no evidence like they have in Italy for their whacked out soccer leagues.

[packerd_00]

The fact that cheating goes on in soccer does not surprise me. 3rd world countries are corrupt. I'm talking about America here and there is no evidence like they have in Italy for their whacked out soccer leagues.

Funny but those teams in those third world countries as you put it make more money yearly then the teams in America. So what does that say. I know you don't realize this but corruption goes on everywhere.

[akphidelt]

Funny but those third countries as you put it make more money yearly then the teams in America. So what does that say.

No competition and no other entertainment there. NFL has teams that make more.