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[Alluvada143]

I am against New World Order(NWO), lobbyists and bureaucracy!!!!

[indio]

I understand what you said. I HIGHLY doubt you're finding any value in that market though. I was posting in the Think Tank before you were ever a member here.

I'm not betting into Vegas futures and their 40% holds, I'm betting into offshore futures with low holds. I just cited an example of an approximate 65% probability that was offered at +180. If you don't think that's value, then I don't know what you consider value, as it sure doesn't get anywhere near that good on game by game markets. And what difference does it make that you were posting in the Think Tank before I became a member here? I can't think of a single shred of relevance to that statement.

Any bet is value when it's implied chances of occurring are greater than the price offered of that event. The bet type is irrelevant, value is value. Then how ones conquers variance is another topic which is the key element when one needs the income derived from those pursuits.

I don't really see much point in this banter continuing, good luck to you.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I'm not betting into Vegas futures and their 40% holds, I'm betting into offshore futures with low holds. I just cited an example of an approximate 65% probability that was offered at +180. If you don't think that's value, then I don't know what you consider value, as it sure doesn't get anywhere near that good on game by game markets. And what difference does it make that you were posting in the Think Tank before I became a member here? I can't think of a single shred of relevance to that statement.

OMG. Your reading comprehension is absolutely atrocious. Is there value there? Yes. Do I give a shit about one bet? No. Are futures typically a poor investment due to opportunity cost? Absolutely. Are you still rambling about FUKKING FUTURES when I said that offshores have "ALMOST no benefits" over Vegas? You sure as shit are. Have I posted in the Think Tank about calculating implied probabilities many, many times? I sure have. Do you not understand that if I've posted about calculating implied probabilities that I know what you mean when you state "implied probability"? Apparently not.

Any bet is value when it's implied chances of occurring are greater than the price offered of that event. The bet type is irrelevant, value is value. Then how ones conquers variance is another topic which is the key element when one needs the income derived from those pursuits.

I don't really see much point in this banter continuing, good luck to you.

Thanks for the elementary lesson in gambling. The fact of the matter is that value is NOT value. If you want to wait six months for one wager, be my guest. I'll have rolled that same money over 100's of times. I don't care what VALUE you got on your stupid future. It's not more than the opportunity cost.

[raiders72001]

There are almost no benefits to the unregulated CR model over the NV model outside of bonuses.

Untrue. Offshore you have bonuses, can find better teaser odds, better parlay odds, reduced juice, more books, more prop bets, the list goes on and on. Offshore has many more betting options than Las Vegas causing line mistakes to occur. Most know when they are taking shots at bad lines. It's a risk/reward situation.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Untrue. Offshore you have bonuses, can find better teaser odds, better parlay odds, reduced juice, more books, more prop bets, the list goes on and on. Offshore has many more betting options than Las Vegas causing line mistakes to occur. Most know when they are taking shots at bad lines. It's a risk/reward situation.

It's just amazing how poorly some of you can comprehend the English language.

There are almost no benefits to the unregulated CR model over the NV model outside of bonuses.

The only thing you'll find agreement from me on is props.

[SBR_John]

Untrue. Offshore you have bonuses, can find better teaser odds, better parlay odds, reduced juice, more books, more prop bets, the list goes on and on. Offshore has many more betting options than Las Vegas causing line mistakes to occur. Most know when they are taking shots at bad lines. It's a risk/reward situation.

Reduced juice is reason alone.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Reduced juice is reason alone.

Where does an American with a brain get reduced juice for more than a week?

[SBR_John]

Where does an American with a brain get reduced juice for more than a week?

Couple on here. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/spor...reduced-juice/

[MonkeyF0cker]

Seriously, John?? 5Dimes and Heritage? I said longer than a week.

[stefan084]

Yup

liberals like emily don't understand business or capitalism in general. that's why romney was wasting his breath explaining how to grow the economy for about 90% of our uneducated, hand out expecting society. the government transfers wealth it doesn't create it-lets keep borrowing money and see how that turns out emily-then we'll all get what the dems deserve. it will be comical to see how obama spins it at the end of this mess, but I'm sure you'll listen to it

[Kindred]

Like I care what you think.

Romney was crushed and that is a fact.

Without the confederate states your party would be irrelevant.

Plus you don't even have 200 to be a pro.

Go fuk yourself.

You obviously do care or you wouldn't have made this post or the posts following this one

And seriously this thread has nothing to do with politics ya phucking zealot.

[The Kraken]

MF'r, if you ran a book you'd do the same thing or Durito, Mathy and SBRjohn would put you out of business.

[MonkeyF0cker]

MF'r, if you ran a book you'd do the same thing or Durito, Mathy and SBRjohn would put you out of business.

Incorrect.

[raiders72001]

MFer- HT's alone is another reason to play offshore. HT lines are volatile and it occurs in a very short time. You can only play at one book in Vegas during this span while you can play at a multitude offshore.

Are you talking average gambler or professional? You flip flop depending upon which one you need to make your point. How many books won't limit professionals in Vegas?

[MonkeyF0cker]

MFer- HT's alone is another reason to play offshore. HT lines are volatile and it occurs in a very short time. You can only play at one book in Vegas during this span while you can play at a multitude offshore.

Because you can't bet online/mobile with any books, have runners, and/or walk across the street/next door?

I think you're a little misinformed.

[raiders72001]

Because you can't bet online/mobile with any books, have runners, and/or walk across the street/next door?

I think you're a little misinformed.

Lines change too fast at HT to be able to walk across the street and get the same line you had on the other side of the street. You may not play HTs but they are bread and butter to some.

Since 98% of the gamblers are recreational, I'll stick to that for my argument. Many many books offer reduced juice offshore. Some offer it 24/7 while others have specific time frames for offering reduced juice.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Are you talking average gambler or professional? You flip flop depending upon which one you need to make your point. How many books won't limit professionals in Vegas?

The difference is that I can use runners without fear of having my winnings stolen and sanctioned by "watchdogs."

[lakerboy]

MonkeyFOcker continues to prove why he is a legend.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Lines change too fast at HT to be able to walk across the street and get the same line you had on the other side of the street. You may not play HTs but they are bread and butter to some.

Since 98% of the gamblers are recreational, I'll stick to that for my argument. Many many books offer reduced juice offshore. Some offer it 24/7 while others have specific time frames for offering reduced juice.

Really? You know how fast HT lines move at Vegas books?

I play HT's. But I don't play steam.

[raiders72001]

MonkeyFOcker continues to prove why he is a legend.

MFer may be a legend here but he's an idiot at the other sites with experienced gamblers. It's not to put SBR down at all, but those that look up to him aren't well informed. MFer works solo. He's admitted that across the street. Not sure why anyone buys his BS.

[raiders72001]

Really? You know how fast HT lines move at Vegas books?

I play HT's. But I don't play steam.

seconds at HT.

[MonkeyF0cker]

MFer may be a legend here but he's an idiot at the other sites with experienced gamblers. It's not to put SBR down at all, but those that look up to him aren't well informed. MFer works solo. He's admitted that across the street. Not sure why anyone buys his BS.

LMAO. Whatever makes you sleep at night.

[MonkeyF0cker]

seconds at HT.

Seconds? LOL. Okay.

End of the conversation. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[raiders72001]

Every few seconds? LOL. Okay.

End of the conversation. You have no idea what you're talking about.

A HT lines moves two points offshore and you are saying that it's not moving in Vegas. I play HTs every day in hoops. The lines fly.

[MonkeyF0cker]

A HT lines moves two points offshore and you are saying that it's not moving in Vegas. I play HTs every day in hoops. The lines fly.

Two points? OMG. You're too stupid for words.

Because HT lines move two points with regularity. LMAO.

[raiders72001]

Two points? OMG. You're too stupid for words.

Because HT lines move two points with regularity. LMAO.

on occasion. The lines do not stay static at HT. I have a hard time believing that you play HTs if you aren't aware of the volatility.

[raiders72001]

The lines that are moving 2 points are the most profitable. Did you play HTs last night?

[MonkeyF0cker]

on occasion. The lines do not stay static at HT. I have a hard time believing that you play HTs if you aren't aware of the volatility.

I'm perfectly aware of the volatility. You're the one that seems misinformed, Mr. Two Points.

[raiders72001]

I'm perfectly aware of the volatility. You're the one that seems misinformed, Mr. Two Points.

Then when is the last time a HT line moved more than 2 points?

[Inkwell77]

Raiders do you live in Vegas?

The times have changed recently with the takeover of William Hill and it is debatable how easy it is to get down lately, but just last year with college basketball I would argue it was much easier to get better numbers in Vegas just by going downtown then you could get offshore. You had Coasts, Golden Nugget, Leroys, Luckys, Stations, and Cal-Neva all within a 4 minute walk starting at the El Cortez. Halftime lines were not flying like crazy at all those books....

[raiders72001]

Game 523 Thursday. Opened at 11.5 and moved to 8.5. Three point HT move.

[raiders72001]

Raiders do you live in Vegas?

The times have changed recently with the takeover of William Hill and it is debatable how easy it is to get down lately, but just last year with college basketball I would argue it was much easier to get better numbers in Vegas just by going downtown then you could get offshore. You had Coasts, Golden Nugget, Leroys, Luckys, Stations, and Cal-Neva all within a 4 minute walk starting at the El Cortez. Halftime lines were not flying like crazy at all those books....

No, you're much more informed than I am about Vegas. I'm just going from what I see on the screen in Vegas and the bets that I make. I like the lines moving. On 523 Thursday I could have taken -8.5 or +11.5.

[raiders72001]

Lines move off of second half openers in seconds. I think that offshore opens before Vegas HT. If you are going to play openers, I can't see being able to play in Vegas.

[Inkwell77]

Lines move off of second half openers in seconds. I think that offshore opens before Vegas HT. If you are going to play openers, I can't see being able to play in Vegas.

Definitely True. But I wonder how easy it is to bet offshore openers.

[raiders72001]

Definitely True. But I wonder how easy it is to bet offshore openers.

Need fast fingers. I miss all the time but there are so many games and books that I get most in. I'm glad my fingers were slow for SA/Mia. I tried to get SA -6 when it was announced that SA was sitting 4 starters. I was too slow and got lucky not to get in.