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  • CanuckG
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    • 12-23-10
    • 21978

    #176
    I would say last night Detroit backdoor cover was good for books especially the under
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    • JR007
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      • 02-21-10
      • 5279

      #177
      my local got killed on the three team teasers
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      • wantitall4moi
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        • 04-17-10
        • 3063

        #178
        Not on the original board, but Minn at 5 is a lean now, we're going against the money here, but it now fits with the lower number. Might get to 4.5. Not a huge deal but in the one in a thousand chance the game ends 21-15 or something goofy with a ton of FGs you avoid the push.
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        • broadway6
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          • 11-14-09
          • 13337

          #179
          hope it's just a lean b/c i'm on Tampa
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          • wantitall4moi
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            • 04-17-10
            • 3063

            #180
            Originally posted by broadway6
            hope it's just a lean b/c i'm on Tampa
            by the looks you might be right, but then again TB came out like gang busters last week.

            i didnt play the game, but since it fit the system I wanted to put it out there.
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            • broadway6
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              • 11-14-09
              • 13337

              #181
              Wanti need your best play today, pal.
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              • wantitall4moi
                SBR MVP
                • 04-17-10
                • 3063

                #182
                Originally posted by broadway6
                Wanti need your best play today, pal.
                doesnt pick best, NE -6.5 would have been strong though but best you will see now is -7, if you can get -7 +100 its OK.

                Other than that Carolina +8, 8.5 if you can get it for -110 or better.
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                • broadway6
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                  • 11-14-09
                  • 13337

                  #183
                  i was actually thinking about betting CAR b/c Bears are coming off a short week....but Carolina is in turmoil... i hate this card
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                  • wantitall4moi
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-17-10
                    • 3063

                    #184
                    Big bounce back today after the disaster last week. 5-1 on plays 2-2 on leans. although Green bay at -16 wasnt really even a lean but I am not going to debate semantics, but anyone who lays more than 2 TDs in the NFL should have their head examined.

                    I am sure most guys were scared off it after last week, that is understandable, but its a system you take it for what it gives you, good and bad. 4 awesome weeks in a row, one bad week, and people freak out, thats gamblers mentality.

                    So updated Results...

                    ATS Plays 21-10
                    Leans 5-8
                    MLs 10-9(counts leans as well which also count in the leans line)
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                    • parlayin
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-03-07
                      • 1091

                      #185
                      Good job, wanti. Can you explain the basis or theory of the system?
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                      • broadway6
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                        • 11-14-09
                        • 13337

                        #186
                        wanti, are you pounding Arizona?
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                        • wantitall4moi
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                          • 04-17-10
                          • 3063

                          #187
                          SD (lean) minus best dont like laying D, but.... hopefully it shifts back to where it opened -9
                          Buf plus best
                          Indy ML or plus points if more than 2 depending on vig
                          Cinci Plus best
                          Cinci ML
                          Chi (lean) minus best
                          Det minus best
                          Car (system loves them) plus best
                          Pitt plus best

                          Lots of 3.5 games this week its that time of the year. But generally speaking if youre going to take +3.5 you should also take the ML. Yeah doesnt sound 'right' but not many 3.5 dogs lose by 1,2, or 3 they win SU. That isnt 'system related' that is from years of tracking them. I only put up what the system says in this thread, but just as an FYI I would watch the MLs in some of those games as they might offer better 'value'.

                          Dal/Atl and Phi/NO have the same number, its a tricky one so we will watch to see what happens inthe first game and might have a play for the monday game based on that. But as it stands right now both road tams would be leans with points.
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                          • Dexter
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-24-08
                            • 25829

                            #188
                            interesting thread
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                            • darkhat
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                              • 08-18-10
                              • 5723

                              #189
                              System all over carolina
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                              • wantitall4moi
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                                • 04-17-10
                                • 3063

                                #190
                                Indy is a coin flip now ML only around +110 or so, was +120 earlier, but you can get +2 -105 so that is probably the 'best' play.

                                Cinci have a feeling 10 minutes before kick will be best, but ML is 175 now if you dont want to wait or take a chance. Spread took a small hit so judgement call.

                                Det got crushed so hopefully people bet them early, 3.5 or 5.5 not as ig a difference as some would like to make it out to be, but still a lot of points to 'waste' when you had a lot of time to get a better number.

                                Caar got to 4 with reasonable vig, back at 3 now. Still OK to play since worst it will be is a push compared to the 'better' number. Obviously if they lose by 3 and you waited the 3.5 and 4 that were available on them were good numbers.

                                Pitts similar 3.5 most of the week, now painted 3 about everywhere.

                                I figure most teams that win SU cover this week, generally that is the case but this year a lot more 'covers' have happened, I think tit starts getting back to normal so that any team that covers this week will win SU.

                                Buff the one that could 'cover' without winning, but ironically the DD dogs have been the wons not covering, which for a year like this is doubly strange, so the system is bucking the current trend with them, but it just goes by numbers not by results or point spreads.
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                                • Dfjay9
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                                  • 12-04-08
                                  • 1576

                                  #191
                                  Nice Carolina read.

                                  Anything tn?
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                                  • wantitall4moi
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-17-10
                                    • 3063

                                    #192
                                    4-1-1, 4-2 if you didnt get 12 on Buffalo. 2-0 on leans. Although when SD went to 7 it became a solid play, but wont count it since I didnt post it here, but did make an individual post about that game (which no one read).

                                    So without that hiccup (vomit) a couple weeks ago system has been stellar. Still ATS it is at 25-11 (23-13 with the worst numbers), MLs are at 10-10 now, and leans are 7-8.

                                    So still very profitable considering how a lot of people are getting wrecked this year in the NFL.

                                    Not sure how many people left monitoring it or if guys went over to EOG, or if that bad week scared them off. Hopefully guys still playing it.
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                                    • bryanoens
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 09-28-12
                                      • 224

                                      #193
                                      GG. Any thoughts on snf
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                                      • No coincidences
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-18-10
                                        • 76300

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                        SD (lean) minus best dont like laying D, but.... hopefully it shifts back to where it opened -9
                                        Buf plus best
                                        Indy ML or plus points if more than 2 depending on vig
                                        Cinci Plus best
                                        Cinci ML
                                        Chi (lean) minus best
                                        Det minus best
                                        Car (system loves them) plus best
                                        Pitt plus best

                                        Lots of 3.5 games this week its that time of the year. But generally speaking if youre going to take +3.5 you should also take the ML. Yeah doesnt sound 'right' but not many 3.5 dogs lose by 1,2, or 3 they win SU. That isnt 'system related' that is from years of tracking them. I only put up what the system says in this thread, but just as an FYI I would watch the MLs in some of those games as they might offer better 'value'.

                                        Dal/Atl and Phi/NO have the same number, its a tricky one so we will watch to see what happens inthe first game and might have a play for the monday game based on that. But as it stands right now both road tams would be leans with points.
                                        Solid day wanti.
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                                        • mae7199
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 08-03-12
                                          • 55

                                          #195
                                          Im still here. Enjoy the thread every week and has been working for me. Thanks!
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                                          • wantitall4moi
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                                            • 04-17-10
                                            • 3063

                                            #196
                                            good to hear, like I 'predicted' every team that won SU covered (so far), with the possible exception of Houston which could have run the gammett as I actually saw some 12.5s at a few of books (lower limit places) early in the week. But I would suspect most people who bet Buff lost. Except us who got 12 hopefully.
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                                            • r2d2
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 09-07-06
                                              • 434

                                              #197
                                              playing and loaded up heavily on pitt and carolina! Thanks for your work on this and thanks for sharing most of all! i appreciate it. any lean tonight? thanks,
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                                              • Full Time Hobo
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                                                • 05-16-10
                                                • 2778

                                                #198
                                                Thanks for the plays Wantit.
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                                                • daneault23
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                                                  • 09-08-09
                                                  • 3877

                                                  #199
                                                  I check this thread every week for plays. Thank wantit, good job man
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                                                  • franklee168
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                                                    • 03-06-11
                                                    • 5544

                                                    #200
                                                    Thanks for the picks wanti!
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                                                    • wantitall4moi
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                                                      • 04-17-10
                                                      • 3063

                                                      #201
                                                      dallas was a lean at 6.5/7 but value all gone, only lean would be ML but even that has tanked now, at +200 its worth a look at 175 its a flyer.
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                                                      • Full Time Hobo
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                                                        • 05-16-10
                                                        • 2778

                                                        #202
                                                        So whats your take on the game tonight?
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                                                        • wantitall4moi
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-17-10
                                                          • 3063

                                                          #203
                                                          smallest of leans on New Orleans on the ML is probably the best play. -135 or so can be found.
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                                                          • broadway6
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-14-09
                                                            • 13337

                                                            #204
                                                            Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                                            smallest of leans on New Orleans on the ML is probably the best play. -135 or so can be found.


                                                            my book has 3.5. he got crushed yesterday, so he wants to make sure people taking the favorites have to pay that extra half or full point.
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                                                            • Broxbomber
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 10-09-12
                                                              • 132

                                                              #205
                                                              Wanti, you are killing it. Keep it up. I check your thread all the time.
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                                                              • wantitall4moi
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-17-10
                                                                • 3063

                                                                #206
                                                                OK, here we go.

                                                                Another step lightly week maybe.

                                                                It is another week where it basically picks the board. I will list them as is, then give commentary on them....


                                                                Minn watch odds ML might be the best option as this will hover around a PK
                                                                NYG minus best (lean)
                                                                Oak plus best
                                                                Tenn plus best
                                                                TB minus best
                                                                Den minus best(solid lean) system picked AGAINST Car, thats why it is a lean not a full pick :P
                                                                Sea minus best, might want to grab it before it goes to 7 then work with it after
                                                                Phil similar to Minn watch odds and ML
                                                                Chi same as phi/dal and min/det
                                                                N.O. ditto
                                                                K.C. plus best.

                                                                Minn/Det; Chi/Hou; and Phi/Dallas all share the same number (PK/-.5) in the system, amazing they are also PK or close to it on the board, system usually doesnt land on the spreads too often. New Orleans for example is also a PK on the board, but a +6 on the system. +6 equals a home team SU play. So different system reasoning same lines on the board.

                                                                Books have really lashed down the numbers, I dont think I have ever seen so many PK/1 games in the same week ever. I guess they are trying to fool people after they got absolutely buried last week.

                                                                But it stays the same, you bet the team you think will win, this week however they arent giving odds on those teams.

                                                                System also picked against Car for the first time, I think it has actually picked them in every game every week, so it hasnt even skipped them. This game shares a similar number to Indy/Jax but I eliminated that game even as a lean because it is on a subset border which means it could go either way, one side is home dog, other side is road fav. So it turned out being a pass.

                                                                TB is the strong side but the books are really jacking up the vig, they have made you pay premium no matter what the line was. Opened -1 -125, then -2.5 was -118, then -3 was -115, now its -3 -117. Generally when they move the points they give you a break on the vig, not in this case, like I said books trying every trick they have to recoup some of that money they lost last week. That might be another one where the ML is the better option, PK -170 is better than -3 -120.

                                                                Well it goes without saying that the teams that win SU this week cant help but cover, there are 4 PK em games, and another that opened a PK and has moved to -3.
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                                                                • darkhat
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                                                                  • 08-18-10
                                                                  • 5723

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Can't beleive they went against carolina
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                                                                  • JohnPickensU
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 10-05-12
                                                                    • 156

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Love the picks. Thanks for all your help.

                                                                    Btw, have you shed any light on what information this system uses?

                                                                    Thanks!
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                                                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 19736

                                                                      #209
                                                                      i don't know pal, i think we should all tread lightly this week.
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                                                                      • wantitall4moi
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-17-10
                                                                        • 3063

                                                                        #210
                                                                        Minn ML and now +3, line has moved a ton, not sure if there are injuries or not I dont check those.

                                                                        Oak +9.5 now but dont pay the crazy vig.

                                                                        Tenn basically unchanged all week

                                                                        TB still -3, if you can find -3 for less than -105. Then couple it up with an SD ML (+150 or better) play or something goofy. But thats personal opinion/strategy not system logic.

                                                                        Sea unchanged

                                                                        Phi ML +120 should be easy enough

                                                                        Chi if you have to pay more than -110 for -1 then just take the -120 ML

                                                                        New Orleans +115 or better ML should be easy enough

                                                                        Leans as is and KC we can discuss later.
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