John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
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Hw101SBR Hustler
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#2207We're can I do research on the system how it works like an entire guideComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
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#2208Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 35-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -2.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-12.19 units)
(2/15/12):
#36 New Jersey (+3) (C) - Loss
#38 Indiana (M/L) (B) - Loss
#39 Minnesota (M/L) (A) - Win
v1 Plays
(A) 26-13
(B) 4-9
(C) 3-5
(D) 2-2
V2 Plays
In production
Games for (2/16/12):
#36 New Jersey (**) @ Indiana (D) (7:05 pm EST)
#38 New Jersey @ Indiana (**) (C) (7:05 pm EST)
** Denotes line not available at time of post
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.Comment -
Hw101SBR Hustler
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#2210Ty so much I will start my readingsComment -
WWSportsRestricted User
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Find a team that has lost three consecutive games (both S/U and ATS). Play a four game chase on that team to win (A) (B) (C) or (D). If a team is a favorite in any of the games, play the M/L, if the team is a dog in any of the games play the point line (-110). We do not buy points in this system and we do not care if teams were favorites or dogs in the games before the four game chase starts. The only time we would buy points is if your team is a favorite by 1-3 points, and buying down to (-1/2) is cheaper than the M/L. Other than that, we are always playing M/L and (-110). I use covers.com as official play site. If covers.com has the game listed as a win, then the series is over. You may have had a different line then them and lost the game, if this is the case, the decision is yours whether or not to continue, but the game will be deemed a win at that point. ALL PUSHES ARE SEEN AS A NO-PLAY. We will treat those games as if they were never played and just skip them. So if your (B) bet is a push, your next bet will be a (B) bet. This system has not been back tested for pre-season or playoffs, this is for regular season only.
Bet Structure (for 4 game chase)
Chase 110 is definitely profitable. For each series loss in a four game chase @ (-110), you need 18.44 series wins to be even. In a chase system, assuming your initial wager is 1 unit, if you lose your (A) bet, your (B) bet will be your losses of (A) bet + 1 unit. So if (B) wins, your profit will be 1 unit. Same for (C) and (D). Recoup all previous losses + 1 unit. Any time a series wins, you will have profited 1 unit. So, for example, if my system is 70-0, I would be up 70 units, it can't be more than that, because our game odds are always (-110) or lower, unless you are risking more than one unit per bet. If you lose four consecutive bets: (A) (B) (C) and (D), you cumulative loss will be 18.44 units (assuming all four games were played at (-110) and betting to win one unit (slightly more if there was a M/L in one of the games). Another thing, if (A) (B) (C) or (D) wins, the series is over at that point, and system gets a win, the remaining games in the series do not get played. Here are four examples, winning the (A) bet is obvious, so I will skip that one:
Unit size = $100
Win (B) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Win (+210)
Net result: 210 -110 = +100 (+1 unit)
Win (C) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Win (+441)
Net result: 441 - 231 - 110 =+100 (+1 unit)
Win (D) bet
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
(D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Win (+926)
Net result: 926 - 485 - 231 - 110 =+100 (+1 unit)
Lose (D) bet (series loss)
(A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
(B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
(C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
(D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Loss (-1018)
Net result: -1018 - 485 - 231 - 110 = -1844 (-18.44 units)
Series Filters
Head to Head Filter: If a team loses three straight games (ATS and S/U), check that team’s schedule to see who their next four opponents are. If one of these teams is a team that is already being played in Chase 110, skip wagering on the new team until the first team has concluded their series. This is to avoid possibly betting on both sides of a game deep in a series (B-D bets). If at that point, the new team has continued their losing streak, you may then pick up your (A) bet on that team, and begin your four game chase. If two teams qualify at the same time, and are scheduled to play each other at some point in their next four games, the team whose potential four game chase would end sooner will be the play. However, if these two teams are scheduled to face each other in their respective (A) bets, this game will be played, taking the (M/L) on the favorite and (-110) on underdog. There is a chance you can win both ends of the bet, and no chance you can lose both, since one team will win. The risk/reward only seems favorable when teams are facing each other in their (A) bets, all other scenarios are just too risky. You may play all teams that qualify, regardless of who their next four opponents are and just take your chances. However, this isn’t recommended. This filter was created to eliminate a possible (D) bet disaster. The wins and losses for the season will be calculated using this filter.
When to play: Chase 110 will be played from day 1 of regular season. As the season winds down, when a team qualifies for a play (three losses ATS and S/U), make sure that team has at least four games remaining on their schedule. If not, that team doesn’t qualify. Results were based on a four game chase, so less than four games to play would lessen your chances of victory. Basic rule of thumb, if the losing streak starts in the last six games of a season, there is no way that team will qualify. If some pushes occur, it may go back a few more games.
System Backtest (2003-2011)
2010-11(63-0) ** This is as of Feb 25, 2011. Still a month and a half to play.**
(A) 31-25
(B) 15-10
(C) 7-3
(D) 3-0
Total profit : +63 units
2009-10 (88-4)
(A) 63-29
(B) 11-18
(C) 10-8
(D) 4-4
Total profit : +11.5 units
2008-09 (86-6) THE BAD SEASON.Three losses involving large M/L. Same couldhappen inJM sys.
(A) 48-44
(B) 20-24
(C) 13-11
(D) 5-6 (four of these won on next bet, too risky to play).
Total loss : -51 units
2007-2008 (86-3)
(A) 58-31
(B) 18-13
(C) 6-7
(D) 4-3
Total Profit : +30 units
2006-07 (101-1)
(A) 64-39
(B) 23-16
(C) 11-5
(D) 4-1
Total Profit : +77.25 units
2005-06 (92-3)
(A) 61-34
(B) 17-17
(C) 10-7
(D) 4-3
Total Profit : +26 units
2004-05 (80-3)
(A) 56-27
(B) 10-17
(C) 7-10
(D) 7-3
Total Profit : +22.5 units
2003-04 (92-4)
(A) 48-48
(B) 30-18
(C) 10-8
(D) 4-4
Total Profit : +14 unitsComment -
knugenSBR MVP
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#2212Lines are out and pacers are heavy favs, its gonna be a maasive ML betComment -
million2oneSBR MVP
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#2213Loving NJ to stay within the number here.
3rd game of a b2b2b for Indiana, I'm hoping for tired legs.Last edited by million2one; 02-16-12, 05:30 PM.Comment -
casdioSBR High Roller
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stickbitSBR Sharp
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#2215Wallco...nice work with that nhl system man. I remember checking it out in the beginning and the start was rough I think...but kicking ass now!Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
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#2216JM Feb 15
V3 CHARLOTTE +15.5 @ Minnesota (A) WIN
V2 NEW ORLEANS +12.5 @ Milwaukee (A) WIN
V3 DENVER +10 @ Dallas (A) LOSS
*Note* Denver marks the first 7/5 play since my results posting. From this point forward all plays that are official 7/5 plays will be noted in the play post. Whether or not you decide to capitalize on it is up to you. Remember, you could very well hit a early loss or end up negative on the season trying to play the method this far in. It has already won +101 units since the season's start, and could hit its next loss any day now. Play it with caution!
Results Per Version
Version 1
A: 11-5
B: 2-3
C: 3-0
Version 2
A: 5-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0
Version 3
A: 21-14
B: 10-3
C: 2-1
DET 1/28-1/31
Totals
A: 37-21
B: 14-6
C: 5-1
JM Feb 16
V3 BOSTON +11 @ Chicago (A)Last edited by thelimit0310; 02-16-12, 05:41 PM.Comment -
Maxi_EVSBR Wise Guy
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Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
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#2220JM Feb 15
V3 CHARLOTTE +15.5 @ Minnesota (A) WIN
V2 NEW ORLEANS +12.5 @ Milwaukee (A) WIN
V3 DENVER +10 @ Dallas (A) LOSS
*Note* Dallas marks the first 7/5 play since my results posting. From this point forward all plays that are official 7/5 plays will be noted in the play post. Whether or not you decide to capitalize on it is up to you. Remember, you could very well hit a early loss or end up negative on the season trying to play the method this far in. It has already won +101 units since the season's start, and could hit its next loss any day now. Play it with caution!
Results Per Version
Version 1
A: 11-5
B: 2-3
C: 3-0
Version 2
A: 5-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0
Version 3
A: 21-14
B: 10-3
C: 2-1
DET 1/28-1/31
Totals
A: 37-21
B: 14-6
C: 5-1
JM Feb 16
V3 BOSTON +11 @ Chicago (A)Comment -
NZT-48SBR Wise Guy
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#2221JM Feb 15
V3 CHARLOTTE +15.5 @ Minnesota (A) WIN
V2 NEW ORLEANS +12.5 @ Milwaukee (A) WIN
V3 DENVER +10 @ Dallas (A) LOSS
*Note* Dallas marks the first 7/5 play since my results posting. From this point forward all plays that are official 7/5 plays will be noted in the play post. Whether or not you decide to capitalize on it is up to you. Remember, you could very well hit a early loss or end up negative on the season trying to play the method this far in. It has already won +101 units since the season's start, and could hit its next loss any day now. Play it with caution!
Results Per Version
Version 1
A: 11-5
B: 2-3
C: 3-0
Version 2
A: 5-2
B: 2-0
C: 0-0
Version 3
A: 21-14
B: 10-3
C: 2-1
DET 1/28-1/31
Totals
A: 37-21
B: 14-6
C: 5-1
JM Feb 16
V3 BOSTON +11 @ Chicago (A)Comment -
bisturisSBR High Roller
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#2224Anyone putting their Denver play in for tomorrow in today since the lines are already out?Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
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#2225Can someone post an excel file including the dates, (A,b, or C), as well as won or loss ATS (-110). I do not need to see how much you wager just all the plays on whether they won or lost.
Thanks
JMD
I believe everyone will appreciate my work once I get the excel file or open office file posted so i can do my research.Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
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#2227Yeah Maxi was right, fixed it. Thanks for the catch. Just finished typing Dallas and my fingers just typed it again!Comment -
WWSportsRestricted User
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#2229It would kill you. You would be surprised at how many times in a season a road team reels off 3-5 straight wins on the road. Nearly as many loses this way as it is playing with J.M.Comment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
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#2230Comment -
WWSportsRestricted User
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#2231Team series start date
boston 11/19
buffalo 10/15
carolina 10/14
florida 10/24
new jersey 11/12
n.y. Islanders 11/26
ny rangers 11/15
and there are more
thats just though the n's in eastern conference.Comment -
J.M. DiscipleSBR Hall of Famer
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stickbitSBR Sharp
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#2233hmmm we'll see. i'll throw a few bucks at it on a 2 line labby only doing games 2 & 3 of road tripsComment -
Maxi_EVSBR Wise Guy
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#2234New Jersey
Indiana
Wallco
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kdavisSBR Sharp
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#2235Wallco!!!!!! You da man!!!!Comment -
thelimit0310SBR MVP
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#2236I love how that Aiwiz kid always comes in to talk shit every D bet and always gets slapped in the face for it. So satisfying watching him eat his words.
Good job WallcoComment -
jwhedgepethSBR Rookie
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#2237Nice hit Wallco!
Warm Regards,
JohnComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
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BigBo$$SBR Rookie
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#2239how you doing guys.nice win on wallco nets and pacers..i got question to the limit and wallco.do you guys buy pts on 7/5 method? tnxComment -
Wallco99SBR Hall of Famer
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#2240No, all -110, but the A bet has to lose with an extra 3.5 points to be eligible for a B bet play. We are only playing this method on JM plays, and has not yet been incorporated into Chase 110 plays.Comment
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