John Morrison 2011-12 NBA Thread

[NZT-48]

Whoops, forgot Sacramento. Washington and SA are not official.

soooo what are the plays tonight then?......the Kings are not an official play?......please clarify thanks

[xgame]

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[NZT-48]

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thank you kindly thats what Id like to see

[smggolfer]

JM Feb 14

V1 ATLANTA +8.5 @ LA Lakers (A)
V1 SACRAMENTO +15 @ Chicago (A)

All official plays are posted with 3 points bought. ML will not be taken on favorites greater than -3.

These are the official plays today, mentioned a few post back.

[1gamer]

Feb 14, 2012 (System +38.28 Units since Feb 4) (Open Series 0) (3-3 Parlays +8.25 Units)

V1 2 Team Parlay Atlanta +5.5/Sacramento +12 1 Unit to win 2.64
C1 1 Team SU Wager Indiana +2.5 (-120) 1.20 units to win 1

BOL tonite

[Riceboi]

Sports Betting Champ's NBA System Picks 2/14 Charlotte [A]* LA Lakers *Word of caution: Charlotte has the worst road record in the league Check out my recommended sportsbooks at: www.SportsBettingChamp.com/sportsbooks.htm

charlotte isn't playing tonight?

[smggolfer]

charlotte isn't playing tonight?

Charlotte does not play tonight. JM had an error in his "Sports Betting Champ's" email.

[NZT-48]

Charlotte does not play tonight. JM had an error in his "Sports Betting Champ's" email.

so the only official play tonight is on the Kings then correct?

[smggolfer]

so the only official play tonight is on the Kings then correct?

Hawks and Kings

[xgame]

oh shit!!! Charlotte not play tonight. wtf to JM

[mcmister]

Whoops, forgot Sacramento. Washington and SA are not official.

Washington covered their last road game.

Spurs covered theirs too..

Are you certain these would be JM plays?

Just asking...

[J.M. Disciple]

Washington covered their last road game.

Spurs covered theirs too..

Are you certain these would be JM plays?

Just asking...

UNOFFICIAL. PLAY THEm at your own risk.

[J.M. Disciple]

Wallco with the systems you follow about how many units annually do you think you make; if you do not mind me asking...

With the 7/5 being tested its said to make around 92 units per season; which the season is 8 months correct?

so 7/5 + chase 110 for NBA (Any other NBA you follow)?

Would it be wrong to say with MLB+NHL+NBA aprox 5-6 systems in all a person could roughly make around 200 units annually?

This is not just directed toward Wallco although i did list his name. If anyone could come up with some averages or help me on this it would be greatly appreciated.

I think JM MLB is aprox 40 units a season if its a winning season :-/
Chase 110: Aprox 80 units?
JM NBA (7/5) Aprox: 100 units a season *(when you labby A bets as well)
NHL: Wallco Gold
MLB: Wallco Plu$$ (i think that was the name)

Trying to come up with annual profit range following these systems and bankroll needed. I think if a unit is .5% of your bankroll for each system you should be safe.

--JMD--

PS: not looking to be spoon fed, but I am looking for some insight on the manner. I know i brought up similar topics in the past, but we did not discuss it too in depth.

Lets make some

[thelimit0310]

Washington covered their last road game.

Spurs covered theirs too..

Are you certain these would be JM plays?

Just asking...

You and NZT seem to be confused. Washington would have been a play if they lost SU and ATS on Feb 12, they won so they are not a play. San Antonio was unofficial from the start because the series starting today takes place within the same road trip as a previous official series. The Only Official Plays Today Are Atlanta and Sacramento - If you check my official play post on the previous page you will see the official plays for tonight. The same it's been since the beginning of the season. Not sure why you don't understand that.

[GGPLAYER]

Love the Pacers play tonight.

xxxx.

[Wallco99]

What the hell is going on in here? Mr Limit posted the plays like every day, read them. One day off and everybody forgets how this works, holy crap!

[thelimit0310]

JMD

Chase -110 makes +27 units on average. Not 80. Though I hope Wallco can improve the system with a method like 7/5 to increase that average.
JM 7/5 makes about +80 on average without labbying A bets. Labbying A bets could increase or decrease that average.
JM MLB makes no where near 40 units a season. Even a perfect season with JM MLB you'd only have about 30 units. 2 losses there and your screwed. I'm working on tweaking JM MLB or On3's MLB system to work with a version of 7/5. I may also look into an NHL system as well, though I most likely wont start that until the MLB season is underway as the MLB systems take priority.

Also, if you lower the % of bankroll used to play extra systems, you could make a lower return than playing 1% on one or two systems. Still with all that said I believe, if you run the right systems and stick with them, it is possible to make 100% growth in bankroll per season on average. Which is the same as 200 units a year at 1% of bankroll per unit. The 7/5 method this year has already reached that mark as of the last B bet win!

[thelimit0310]

What the hell is going on in here? Mr Limit posted the plays like every day, read them. One day off and everybody forgets how this works, holy crap!

Tell me about it! And of course someone posts a botched JM email to add to the confusion

[Riceboi]

What the hell is going on in here? Mr Limit posted the plays like every day, read them. One day off and everybody forgets how this works, holy crap!

haha it's like a madhouse in here. LMAO

Just let heman (thelimit) post the plays.

[Wallco99]

Wallco with the systems you follow about how many units annually do you think you make; if you do not mind me asking...

With the 7/5 being tested its said to make around 92 units per season; which the season is 8 months correct?

so 7/5 + chase 110 for NBA (Any other NBA you follow)?

Would it be wrong to say with MLB+NHL+NBA aprox 5-6 systems in all a person could roughly make around 200 units annually?

This is not just directed toward Wallco although i did list his name. If anyone could come up with some averages or help me on this it would be greatly appreciated.

I think JM MLB is aprox 40 units a season if its a winning season :-/
Chase 110: Aprox 80 units?
JM NBA (7/5) Aprox: 100 units a season *(when you labby A bets as well)
NHL: Wallco Gold
MLB: Wallco Plu$$ (i think that was the name)

Trying to come up with annual profit range following these systems and bankroll needed. I think if a unit is .5% of your bankroll for each system you should be safe.

--JMD--

PS: not looking to be spoon fed, but I am looking for some insight on the manner. I know i brought up similar topics in the past, but we did not discuss it too in depth.

Lets make some

I already answered this when you PM'ed me two weeks ago, go pull up my response.

[Kev the Brit]

Exactly. This whole idea of skipping the A bets is just ridiculous. People try to do all of this research about what methods work the best. Please. The fact of the matter is, you bet all 3 bets. A,B,C. When the A bets hit you make money. When you don't bet the A bets and they hit, you don't make money. I'm not saying I don't appreciate the work that some of the people do in this thread, but I'll always bet the A bets. Why? Because when they hit, I make money.

Simple.

Well, yes, it is simple. But, you need to know when to hit the A Bets that are going to win. The fact is that, overall, they don't win enough to justify betting on them. In addition to playing the B bets, I would also bet on the winning A Bets if I knew that they were about to win, but I don't know when that is.

Kev

[J.M. Disciple]

Feb 14, 2012 (System +38.28 Units since Feb 4) (Open Series 0) (3-3 Parlays +8.25 Units)

V1 2 Team Parlay Atlanta +5.5/Sacramento +12 1 Unit to win 2.64
C1 1 Team SU Wager Indiana +2.5 (-120) 1.20 units to win 1

BOL tonite

you should really test this "system" of yours with the beginning of the season. It was pretty up and down in the beginning with a lot of B and C bets and A bets were not doing so well.

Best of luck.

[1gamer]

MLB Plu$$$ showed alot of good potential last year. At one point, I was up over +80 units (Or close) within the 1st 2 to 3 week of season, before I lost it all. If this new System that I'm trying with JM and C -110 works out, I would like to implement alot of the same principles to MLB Plu$$$. You would gotta love hitting 2 team parlays on the MLB runline.

[J.M. Disciple]

Thank you limit (+2pts my max) for the day to you. Also Thank you Wallco for the PMs in the past. I went back and read and see that you can make 100-200 units a season with the systems. I would have to go back and look at season averages to get more information on other systems. Limit answered most of them though.

Limit you said chase110 averages 27units a season when last season was +80 units? I will go back to last years forum and see if I can find the back test on this. Thank you for the responses.

Overall, In order to make a comfortable living 50K+ annually you would need between 50k - 100k bankroll and a unit size of $500. This does not include taxes. I do not think anyone is close to making that move yet to turn "pro."

Thanks again for the information greatly appreciated and greatful :-)

--JMD

[J.M. Disciple]

MLB Plu$$$ showed alot of good potential last year. At one point, I was up over +80 units (Or close) within the 1st 2 to 3 week of season, before I lost it all. If this new System that I'm trying with JM and C -110 works out, I would like to implement alot of the same principles to MLB Plu$$$. You would gotta love hitting 2 team parlays on the MLB runline.

As Wallco said in the past, avoid MLB PLU$$ V2 plays and you will do fine. V1 is definitely profitable system. He tried to fix what was not broke. Looking forward to MLB season!

$$$JMD$$$

PS
There was a 1st run inning thread that made a fortune last year using labby method. I think it made close to 500 units for the baseball season. I forgot who ran the thread, but it was very successful. Lets keep that discussion on another thread, but just throwing it out there.

[Wallco99]

Thank you limit (+2pts my max) for the day to you. Also Thank you Wallco for the PMs in the past. I went back and read and see that you can make 100-200 units a season with the systems. I would have to go back and look at season averages to get more information on other systems. Limit answered most of them though.

Limit you said chase110 averages 27units a season when last season was +80 units? I will go back to last years forum and see if I can find the back test on this. Thank you for the responses.

Overall, In order to make a comfortable living 50K+ annually you would need between 50k - 100k bankroll and a unit size of $500. This does not include taxes. I do not think anyone is close to making that move yet to turn "pro."

Thanks again for the information greatly appreciated and greatful :-)

--JMD

Yes, +27 units is correct, no need to check.

[1gamer]

you should really test this "system" of yours with the beginning of the season. It was pretty up and down in the beginning with a lot of B and C bets and A bets were not doing so well. Best of luck.

I disagree. Aside from my 3-3 record on parlays in just over a week, there's been at least 5 to 6 other days in this season where 2 and 3 team, (A) bet parlays would've hit. How would I backtest this system? This system is based on being able to switch to teams that are playing good at the time, and that have better records in certain spots. So it doesn't really matter to me if the parlay hits or not (Don't believe that) The loss unit will be reinstated on another play at a better place. I'll just take it day by day.

[hagball52]

JM must have edited his post. It is now the same as limit's who was right to begin with.

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2/14 Atlanta [A]
LA Lakers
2/14 Sacramento [A]
Chicago
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[Wallco99]

I disagree. Aside from my 3-3 record on parlays in just over a week, there's been at least 5 to 6 other days in this season where 2 and 3 team, (A) bet parlays would've hit. How would I backtest this system? This system is based on being able to switch to teams that are playing good at the time, and that have better records in certain spots. So it doesn't really matter to me if the parlay hits or not (Don't believe that) The loss unit will be reinstated on another play at a better place. I'll just take it day by day.

A.K.A, gambling!

[thelimit0310]

There was a 1st run inning thread that made a fortune last year using labby method. I think it made close to 500 units for the baseball season. I forgot who ran the thread, but it was very successful. Lets keep that discussion on another thread, but just throwing it out there.

I know exactly what your talking about, the system is on Covers as well. I think it actually only made ~200 units but that's still a gold mine. I tried following last year but I just could not for the life of me understand how it worked (when to pick Yes or No for 1st inning runs, what teams constituted plays). It apparently performs fantastic but was still just an experiment so there were no rules, almost impossible to jump in and follow.

If you or anyone else here knows more on the system and how to play it please PM me any info you have. I would be happy to give you some points for the trouble. The system always interested me so I would love to know more.

[1gamer]

A.K.A, gambling!

Anyone who is playing JM and/or Chase, or anything else is gambling. That's the X factor that can never be backed out of the equation.

[alexknyc]

Anyone who is playing JM and/or Chase, or anything else is gambling. That's the X factor that can never be backed out of the equation.

There's gambling on a system with a proven track record and then there's gambling on a blindfolded monkey throwing darts at team names. Which do you think is which?

[thelimit0310]

I respectfully disagree 1gamer. An 8-10 year sample of a trend shows all of its fluctuations, ups and downs, and means that the average of the sample will stay the same going forward until the game itself changes. This is the reason I can say the 7/5 will on average produce 80 units. This is why Wilba can say the A bets don't win enough to justify betting them. From your stances on both these issues this seems to be something you don't fully understand, but that's okay. System players are not gamblers because they are only capitalizing on a long term trend, not handicapping.

[1gamer]

There's gambling on a system with a proven track record and then there's gambling on a blindfolded monkey throwing darts at team names. Which do you think is which?

You can alway find ways to minimize risk, but you will never completely get rid of it. This goes for any moving market.

[alexknyc]

You can alway find ways to minimize risk, but you will never completely get rid of it. This goes for any moving market.

Which system is minimizing risk and which is gambling?