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  • dume walker
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-08-10
    • 971

    #491
    Originally posted by 70kgman
    I will have to do more research into my results another time to see if the results pan out how I think that will, but in theory...playing 1H unders and game total overs for 2 units, and 1H overs and game unders for 1 unit sounds like a possible good idea for next season.
    What's wrong with trying it out for the remainder of this season, or if not a full unit, pumping those 1st half unders and game total overs for a bit more than a unit?
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    • 70kgman
      SBR MVP
      • 01-31-10
      • 4354

      #492
      Originally posted by dume walker
      What's wrong with trying it out for the remainder of this season, or if not a full unit, pumping those 1st half unders and game total overs for a bit more than a unit?
      Well, the theory behind possibility altering the units isn't really anything more than something that sounds good in my head right now. The results may say something entirely different. I would prefer a much larger sample size, but I will try to at least look through this season's results so far to see what it looks like. May take a little while, I am far from up to date on my record keeping.
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      • 70kgman
        SBR MVP
        • 01-31-10
        • 4354

        #493
        This is what I came up with:

        1st half under: 34-16-2 (68.0%)

        1st half over: 14-7 (66.6%)


        Game under: 30-28 (51.7%)


        Game Over: 11-8-1 (57.8%)


        Probably too small of a sample size to make any conclusions. Just interesting to know what the breakdown of the plays looks like. Do what you will with the information.
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        • dume walker
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 04-08-10
          • 971

          #494
          Thanks for the extra work, K-Man, giving us that info.
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          • dume walker
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-08-10
            • 971

            #495
            Not sure what's going on. I tried to leave you points twice now but they just wouldn't transfer. I'll try it again some other time.
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            • 70kgman
              SBR MVP
              • 01-31-10
              • 4354

              #496
              One other reason why I think the 1H plays are stronger in general is because they have one additional filter I use for those that cant be applied to game totals. The league average for points scored in the NBA breaks down to roughly 50.6% scored in the 1H, 49.4% in the 2H. So I try to mostly play Unders that also have a 1H total over 50.6% of the game total, and vice versa.

              And I am definitely done with using line movement as one of my filters to void plays after today. Voided a perfectly good play on the ATL/POR 1H under tonight because the game total moved 1.5 points up despite the consensus being around 50/50. It won by double digits. Seems like my math model trumps confusing line movement in the other direction almost every time.

              Not too sure sure why the points didn't transfer. I received my points for logging in tonight.
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              • dume walker
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-08-10
                • 971

                #497
                Tried 2 more times to leave points. Still got nothing. Watch. It's probalby on some sort of delay and tomorrow you'll get 40 points.
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                • 70kgman
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-31-10
                  • 4354

                  #498
                  Originally posted by dume walker
                  Tried 2 more times to leave points. Still got nothing. Watch. It's probalby on some sort of delay and tomorrow you'll get 40 points.
                  Oh yeah, I forgot. They changed the rules. I think you are only able to transfer 2 points at a time, or 2 points a day, or something like that now.

                  Anyway, no plays tonight.
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                  • dume walker
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 04-08-10
                    • 971

                    #499
                    Okay. So 2 points it is...
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                    • 70kgman
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-31-10
                      • 4354

                      #500
                      Originally posted by 70kgman

                      There are some books out there that have LA Kings +1800 to win Western Conference. I would recommend throwing a unit on that wager if your book has it. Kings were my dark horse to come out of the western conference anyway, but with the trading deadline coming up and the Kings with far more cap space than any other playoff contender, as well as one of the most stock-piled farm systems with prospects (ranked #2 on hockeyfutures.com), I can see them making a big move at the deadline. You may see LA kings odds to win the Western Conference down to +500 or worse a week from now.
                      sportsbook moved this line from +1800 to +1200 a few days after I posted this. Should drop even more now after LA picked up Penner at the deadline this afternoon and the other Western conference contenders made no deadline additions. Not sure what the line was before at Bookmaker, but LA are just +675 at that book right now.
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                      • dume walker
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 04-08-10
                        • 971

                        #501
                        Yeah, per your suggestion I jumped on it at +1800. Now let's keep our fingers crossed...

                        BTW, it seems you can only give 2 points per day. I tried leaving another deuce for the Kings post and it wouldn't go through.
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                        • Shifty107
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-05-10
                          • 1582

                          #502
                          Any thoughts on the redwings tonight kg. Think there is some value there.
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                          • 70kgman
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-31-10
                            • 4354

                            #503
                            Originally posted by dume walker
                            Yeah, per your suggestion I jumped on it at +1800. Now let's keep our fingers crossed...

                            BTW, it seems you can only give 2 points per day. I tried leaving another deuce for the Kings post and it wouldn't go through.
                            If they make it through 2 rounds, I will probably hedge it. In that scenario we will likely be able to hedge to set up a minimum of 7 units won regardless of who wins the conference finals, possibly more.


                            Originally posted by Shifty107
                            Any thoughts on the redwings tonight kg. Think there is some value there.
                            LA match-up well against the Red Wings, they have beat them in every meeting so far this season, the last time 5-0. Plus, Rafalski and Franzen are injured for Detroit.
                            No strong opinion on the game either way. I am not playing it, but I think the under 5.5 in that game would be the best bet on the NHL card tonight, assuming it is Howard vs. Quick in net, I haven't checked.
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                            • Shifty107
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-05-10
                              • 1582

                              #504
                              Cheers mate
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                              • 70kgman
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-31-10
                                • 4354

                                #505
                                New Jersey / Phoenix Under 100.5 2H
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                                • 70kgman
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-31-10
                                  • 4354

                                  #506
                                  What a F-ing joke. Another easy winner screwed by OT, in a game that never should of even came close to going to OT in the first place. I have had 3 of the worst bad beats you will ever see in 3 consecutive days now. And to rub it in, I still had the under covered in the final 10 seconds of OT.
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                                  • 70kgman
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-31-10
                                    • 4354

                                    #507
                                    Kansas St. / Texas Over 72.5 2H
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                                    • 70kgman
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-31-10
                                      • 4354

                                      #508
                                      No plays today either.
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                                      • 70kgman
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-31-10
                                        • 4354

                                        #509
                                        Late change of mind on something I voided earlier in the day.

                                        3/1

                                        1st Half: LA Lakers / Minnesota Over 103

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                                        NBA: 90-60-3
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                                        • 70kgman
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-31-10
                                          • 4354

                                          #510
                                          Dallas / Philadelphia Under 98.5 2H
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                                          • 70kgman
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-31-10
                                            • 4354

                                            #511
                                            New Orleans / Toronto Under 94 2H
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                                            • dume walker
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 04-08-10
                                              • 971

                                              #512
                                              After a monster 3Q we come within a half point of catching the under on the Dallas/Philly game. Sucks...
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                                              • 70kgman
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-31-10
                                                • 4354

                                                #513
                                                Yeah, 7 points in a 15 second span in final 40 seconds of the game, mostly on intentional fouls. Another bad beat.

                                                And guess I should of kept that Laker 1H over voided. Bad pick on that one. I only changed my mind because the line movement shot up 3 points late, making the 1H line just 50% of the game total, which is decent value in itself. Though I guess you cant really predict the Lakers shooting 29% against the worst defensive team in the NBA.
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                                                • 70kgman
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-31-10
                                                  • 4354

                                                  #514
                                                  Houston / Portland Under 99 2H
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                                                  • 70kgman
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-31-10
                                                    • 4354

                                                    #515
                                                    Already locked these ones in. Will post rest later.

                                                    OKC/IND U210.5
                                                    NY/NO U201.5
                                                    POR/SAC 1H U100
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                                                    • 70kgman
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-31-10
                                                      • 4354

                                                      #516
                                                      May add one more later.

                                                      3/2

                                                      1st Half: New York / New Orleans Under 102.5

                                                      1st Half: Portland / Sacramento Under 100

                                                      New York / New Orleans Under 201.5

                                                      Oklahoma City / Indiana Under 210.5

                                                      Atlanta / Chicago Under 182.5


                                                      Boston / Phoenix Under 199.5

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                                                      NBA Model: 90-61-3
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                                                      • 70kgman
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-31-10
                                                        • 4354

                                                        #517
                                                        2nd half wagers record since February 1st = 28-19
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                                                        • 70kgman
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-31-10
                                                          • 4354

                                                          #518
                                                          Added the Boston under. Now I am finished.
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                                                          • 70kgman
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-31-10
                                                            • 4354

                                                            #519
                                                            UAB / SO Miss Over 69 2H
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                                                            • 70kgman
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-31-10
                                                              • 4354

                                                              #520
                                                              Golden State / Washington Over 106 2H
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                                                              • 70kgman
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-31-10
                                                                • 4354

                                                                #521
                                                                Portland St. / Northern Arizona Under 78 2H
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                                                                • dume walker
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 04-08-10
                                                                  • 971

                                                                  #522
                                                                  What happened to your post about Portland State/N. Az under 77.5 for the 2nd half, or am I dreaming things?
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                                                                  • 70kgman
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-31-10
                                                                    • 4354

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Hmm, I know I posted it. I actually still have my thread opened in another tab from right after I hit submit post, and I see it in that one. Then I hit refresh and it was gone. Mod deleted it? Weird.
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                                                                    • dume walker
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 04-08-10
                                                                      • 971

                                                                      #524
                                                                      Obviously, it's back now. But for a while there it disappeared. Fortunately (I hope) I was able to get down on it in time.
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                                                                      • 70kgman
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-31-10
                                                                        • 4354

                                                                        #525
                                                                        Model plays went 4-2. 2H plays 2-1.

                                                                        No model plays tomorrow.
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