never used them but i am sure they are ok, B rated book. knew only one person who used them and he never had an issue. do they offer the 3 point buy at -170 (which is 10 cent hooks)?
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65-17-1 +179.78 units (with point buying at -165 for 3 points)
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59-22-2 +152.61 units (regular spreads at -110 for those that can't buy points for the price we do)Comment -
No problem bro, I know not everyone has the time I do lol.Originally posted by thefonzoI'm still tracking, just not time to post every day.
It'll be updated later today, and most likely every two-three days in the future. You do enough for us, don't worry about this
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hey jolm if you sign up for this let me know their price for buying 3 pointsOriginally posted by jolmscheidComment -
When you consider the juice on the point-buying if bankroll is an issue you might be better off playing them at reduced juice straight. The unit amount won is smaller but you need a smaller bankroll and you could bet more on the games when you are not paying -170 juice. Just my 2¢Comment -
we all know this % is not going to continue to hit at this rate, so be careful and always and use money management. in the long run the numbers will be our friendOriginally posted by Cheme82
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True statement ⇑Comment -
True Dat...Comment -
Yup, and we greatly appreciate you taking the time out to explain it all. I've finally got it all dialed down, so now I don't have to refresh every few minutes waiting for your plays, heh. I still compare the results that I get to yours, though. It's just shocking how well this does.Originally posted by Cheme82
Yah, exactly. Locals are definitely needed for this. I got one local that pays me out every Sunday, and the other pays out every Monday, all in cash. Can't beat that! I'd hate having to wait for a payment to arrive, or sweating it out that I might not get paid or something.Originally posted by Cheme82Comment -
Tuesday
11/16/2010
Indiana 5.5 -165 6
Mil 7 -165 7.7
NYK 11 -165 3.9
GLComment -
looks good cheme. tough break on that baylor game for you, scoring a garbage bucket to move from a push to a loss. i watched it here at work hahaComment -
Shit happens bro, but it's all good.
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yep. alright i'm out. i'm not even gonna monitor the scores, feels like a waste of time. i watched virginia tech get killed because of a bad 2 minute run along with a couple technicals. they looked like the better team through 30 minutes. betterj ust not to watch it--it's easier to accept a loss that wayComment -
I don't follow the games at all. In CFB it would have been close to impossible with so many plays at the beginning of the season. I might check the end of some games if I'm around but not really follow the games.Comment -
+5 units for me today in NCAAB, but gave up 3 in the nba. SucksComment -
Results:
1-2-0 -18.7 units
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66-19-1 +161.08 unitsComment -
Beats me, I dropped money on bothOriginally posted by impper
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Me too, but hey, everyday isn't going to a winner. Our winning days way outnumber the losing ones, and that's all that matters. Yesterday, when my local paid me out, he told me that he hopes I keep up betting like this, because he wants to start betting my plays with another book, haha. I hope he didn't choose today to start tailing the plays.Comment -
@Cheme82:
do you have an email list or twitter ?Comment -
Ha Ha...that's pretty sweet Chili! And it's funny cuz I have been tracking the value plays and they were killing it, and so I started betting them today with $10 units and I lost $150! HA HA...but I'm pretty sure I am doing it right since me and you had the same plays last night!Originally posted by chilidogComment -
I don't understand how you choose your picks.
Do you choose a bet because you believe the team will win, or is it just because you made some kind of calculations?
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1-2 straight up yesterday
60-24-2 YTD on straight up picks.
Not going to post a +/- units for straight up picks, just the record.Comment -
Just hope he doesn't realize that most books won't sell him the 3 points for 60 cents lol.Originally posted by chilidogComment -
No sir, everything I have I post at SBR. Well almost everything.Originally posted by HaydenstraussComment -
I make plays that are +EV, how I choose them has been explained in this thread.Originally posted by stato41Comment -
I'll just keep both record for people that can't buy points.
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66-19-1 +161.08 units (with point buying at -165 for 3 points)
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60-24-2 +141.44 units (regular spreads at -110 for those that can't buy points)Comment -
so you'd be up 156 units or so buying points at -170 instead of -165, assuming you followed all of cheme's plays with the same unit sizing. amazing record so far manComment -
Alright boys...gotta run to school yet for the night so I locked in my NBA bets tonight...please let me know if you get these similar plays! I just wanna be totally sure I got this down...thanks guys:
Suns +11 2 Units
Wizards +16.5 1 Unit
Pistons +10 1 Unit
Rockets +10 3 Units
Bulls +10 1 Unit
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I have all of those, but Dallas also. I haven't made my bets yet, but here's what I have as of now:Originally posted by jolmscheid
Phoenix +11 -165 3.04%
Washington +16.5 -165 2.01%
Detroit +10 -165 2.26%
Dallas +8 -165 1.7%
Houston +10 -165 2.26%
Chicago +10 -165 2.26%Comment -
Wednesday
11/17/2010
Phoenix 11 -165 6
Toronto 6 -165 2.5
Washington 16.5 -165 5.4
Detroit 10 -165 3.7
Dallas 8 -165 4.2
LAC 7.5 -165 4.2
OKC -3.5 -165 2.9
NJ 13.5 -165 3
Chi 10 -165 6.7
NYK 7 -165 2.6
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good luck today guys...lets bounce backComment -
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question for you cheme, or maybe you other guys can answer too:
when calculating using pinnacle, that is using a standard -105 -105 line, so there's a 2% or so commission off each side in a "neutral," truly 50-50 bet (according to pinnacle). so do you use that to calculate your edge, or discount it?
i ask because if i calculate the odds using a betting market, the commission tends to be 1 or 0 cents. so if i calculate using the market, there are many plays on board and quite a few huge plays. if i calculate using pinnacle, a lot of plays come out as about even since pinnacles 10 cent juice is coming into play.Comment -
If you are able to bet the market's numbers then you use that as your starting spreads in the calculator. Then you enter whatever price you can get to buy points and then you will see what edge you have. Since you won't be able to buy 3 points in the exchange then you use their lines (juice included) as your starting lines but you have to use the actual lines you can get when buying points so you can get your particular edge.Comment -
Results:
7-3-0 +1.18 units
YTD
73-22-1 +162.26 units (with point buying at -165 for 3 points)
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66-28-2 +136.86 units (regular spreads at -110 for those that can't buy points)
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