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  • Ace_of_Spades
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-14-09
    • 13518

    #281
    Originally posted by RoagBettor
    Not only will the Bulls cover, they'll win outright. I'll be playing the Bulls ML as my only NBA play tonight.
    On it.
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    • MUHerd37
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-23-09
      • 12816

      #282
      I'm just to sure about the Bulls guys. San Antonio is gonna be good. Manu is back and healthy, they added Richard Jefferson, and got DeJuan Blaire in the draft. Also, remember that Derrick Rose only played in the first preseason game and has sat out the rest with an ankle injury. The Bulls also said that his minutes tonight are going to be limited. Keep all that in mind.
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      • BL
        SBR MVP
        • 05-11-09
        • 4070

        #283
        I am on the Spurs Roag. Would overthink it twice if you really want to play the Bulls. This is no real back2back situation for the spurs as it was like a nice training yesterday. Tonight you will get to see the real strength of ste SA lineup. Which Bulls players do you see competing with the Spurs? This one could get ugly for Chicago. just my 2 cents.
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        • RoagBettor
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-20-09
          • 8355

          #284
          I can't back the Spurs tonight. The Bulls are tough, and I think Rose will play his usual minutes. The Spurs looked good against a really really bad Hornets team. Duncan doesn't play much if at all on back to back games anymore and the Bulls will be pumped for this home opener.

          I'm not going heavy on it, I just think the Bulls are a playoff team again this year and win this game.
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          • travisowain
            SBR Hustler
            • 10-28-09
            • 94

            #285
            if the bulls win i will sing your praises roag, cause im with everyone else. that a huge nuts pick right there. im gonna go on the over as well, i think 193 is low with the way san antonio is scoring right now
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            • RoagBettor
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-20-09
              • 8355

              #286
              Look, I know the Spurs are the play tonight, everyone and their grandmother is on them. But I'm a Roag Bettor, I can't bet against a good home team playing a team who played the night before. I don't care how much energy San Antonio expended last night, the fact is the Hornets suck and the Bulls are a young, aggressive team. Just the type of team that gives an old, creaky team like the Spurs fits.

              If the Spurs win, more power to you guys who are on them. But I always go with who will make the books the most money, and with only 2 games tonight (and the other game a toss-up), I gotta take the Bulls.
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              • The Donk
                SBR Rookie
                • 10-27-09
                • 48

                #287
                I'm with you Roag. I am playing a teaser with Bulls getting 9 and Nuggets getting 12. I'm pretty confident both teams will cover.
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                • RoagBettor
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-20-09
                  • 8355

                  #288
                  Originally posted by The Donk
                  I'm with you Roag. I am playing a teaser with Bulls getting 9 and Nuggets getting 12. I'm pretty confident both teams will cover.
                  Yeah, I thought about doing that, it's a good play. But because I think the Bulls win I'd rather play the ML at plus money.

                  Good luck!
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                  • RoagBettor
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-20-09
                    • 8355

                    #289
                    Chicago Bulls ML +145

                    $50 to win $72.50
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                    • dannyovercash
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 10-16-09
                      • 33

                      #290
                      roag - you said you use bookmaker, do they allow you to do parlays/teasers combining leagues (EX: NBA and NCAA combined?) ive been on BODOG for 3 years, would like to open a new account on bookmaker or 5dimes, didn't know if you could combine though.
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                      • RoagBettor
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-20-09
                        • 8355

                        #291
                        Originally posted by dannyovercash
                        roag - you said you use bookmaker, do they allow you to do parlays/teasers combining leagues (EX: NBA and NCAA combined?) ive been on BODOG for 3 years, would like to open a new account on bookmaker or 5dimes, didn't know if you could combine though.
                        Yes, at Bookmaker I can combine leagues as long as its the same sport (so pro and college basketball, pro and college football). What's great is I can do it for the 3 Team/8 Point Teasers in basketball and 3 Team/10 Point Teasers in football, so I have lots of games to choose from.
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                        • dannyovercash
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 10-16-09
                          • 33

                          #292
                          thanks, im opening a new account with them, and I will tail you in NBA and NCAA to turn 125 into 10,000

                          NFL i use bodog for that, I run my own nfl blog, so I am confident with my picks there. Looking forward to making money with you roag, love the Chicago pick tonight ML
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                          • travisowain
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 10-28-09
                            • 94

                            #293
                            Originally posted by RoagBettor
                            Look, I know the Spurs are the play tonight, everyone and their grandmother is on them. But I'm a Roag Bettor, I can't bet against a good home team playing a team who played the night before. I don't care how much energy San Antonio expended last night, the fact is the Hornets suck and the Bulls are a young, aggressive team. Just the type of team that gives an old, creaky team like the Spurs fits.

                            If the Spurs win, more power to you guys who are on them. But I always go with who will make the books the most money, and with only 2 games tonight (and the other game a toss-up), I gotta take the Bulls.
                            spurs arent as old as you think they are with guys like hill, blair, parker, and a super athletic richard jefferson getting a ton of minutes. the bulls rely on young guys like noah and thomas (both huge busts in my opinion). thomas is athletic and might be able to cause some problems, but noah is a bum amongst bums. Their spark plug is gone in ben gordon (even though i dont like his game, hes a jack artist) and that means they are gonna have to rely on a less capable jack artist in john salmons to score points. Derrick Rose will give anyone fits across this league, but hes coming off the elbow issues. I do like him having the chance to rest the tendinitis in his knees though, but i think he'll have an off game as it takes at least one game to get used to the speed again. No sort of practice/pick up games can simulate the speed of an NBA game. if you think moneyline is big enough to pick em then i dont have ANY experience at all in picking against the money line for money management. but watch the OVER, im telling you
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                            • RoagBettor
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-20-09
                              • 8355

                              #294
                              I'm playing the Bulls ML because I think they'll win. If you guys like the Spurs go for it. It's a tough game to call, it could go either way. I just can't bet with the majority of the public for the reasons I already stated. No one should be betting heavily on this game anyway, so if I lose $50 so be it.
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                              • joanapoker
                                Restricted User
                                • 12-09-08
                                • 2275

                                #295
                                off-topic from the bulls/spurs...

                                DENVER+8
                                do you guys really think that Portland is that better?? I'm leaning DENVER plus the point.....but haven't pull the trigger yet....afraid of this line, feels like a trap!
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                                • monkeybiz
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 10-12-09
                                  • 51

                                  #296
                                  Spurs-Bulls. The line is moving slightly towards the Bulls. They opened at +3.5 and now there are 2.5 and 3.0 out there. Yet, I'm sure Joe Public would be all over San Antonio. Hmmm...

                                  I enjoy looking at line movement but I don't let it influence my picks. Sometimes you gain a point or so during the day, sometimes you lose a point. And sometimes it's just something to talk about over a beer in Vegas !

                                  Case in point, the Celts-Cavs opener. A good buddy of mine grabbed under 184.5. I bet later on over 183.5 Final score of 184. We have this annual NBA head to head handicapping contest, so for us that was a push, but in the real world we both made money. And I'm sure there'll be times when we both lose because of line moves.

                                  The line has also moved in Portland's favor by a point. Now at -8. If I have studied the Teaser lessons learned on this forum correctly, if there were a heavier schedule tonite, that would make the Trailblazers a good candidate. Correct ?

                                  Neither one of these two games tonite jumps out at me with a clear pick.

                                  Good luck all.
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                                  • RoagBettor
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-20-09
                                    • 8355

                                    #297
                                    No, you can't take the Blazers tonight in a teaser because Denver could easily win this game. The line is ridiculous for a Denver team that almost beat the Lakers in the Western Conference Finals and is just as good this year (although not having Smith hurts them right now). The Blazers were 8.5-9.5 favorites over the lowly Rockets and won by 9, does it make any sense for Portland to be favored over a strong Denver team by 8 just because Denver played last night?

                                    The lines for tomorrow's games will be out later this afternoon, and I will be taking Denver +16 plus 2 other games in my teaser.
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                                    • monkeybiz
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 10-12-09
                                      • 51

                                      #298
                                      Good point Roag, Denver +16 does sound better than Portland even. Actually, they both sound good to me ! Welcome the Monkey to the world of NBA Teasers.

                                      Thanks
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                                      • travisowain
                                        SBR Hustler
                                        • 10-28-09
                                        • 94

                                        #299
                                        very true roag. i also think its tough to predict teams early in the year like the nuggs and blazers who have a big disparity in their home/away performance. i think you gotta see a few games before you can figure out what theyre are really about
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                                        • RoagBettor
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-20-09
                                          • 8355

                                          #300
                                          Exactly. What do you think is more likely, Portland beating Denver by more than 16, or Portland winning outright? Since Denver can win this game, you have to take the 16 points because it's more likely they will cover that number. Good teams rarely get blown out by more than 16 pts. It happens, but usually later in the season in meaningless games or at the end of long road trips.
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                                          • travisowain
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 10-28-09
                                            • 94

                                            #301
                                            8-10pt spread with an 8 point tease are SO $$$ when you know ANYTHING about basketball. denver +16 seriously??? id bet the farm on that with 2 other decent games
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                                            • joanapoker
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-09-08
                                              • 2275

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                              Exactly. What do you think is more likely, Portland beating Denver by more than 16, or Portland winning outright? Since Denver can win this game, you have to take the 16 points because it's more likely they will cover that number. Good teams rarely get blown out by more than 16 pts. It happens, but usually later in the season in meaningless games or at the end of long road trips.
                                              Nice and simple! Very good point.
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                                              • williams22
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 09-19-08
                                                • 6134

                                                #303
                                                Roag, I'm sorry but I just don't understand what you see in the Bulls. I think this is a team that will battle for the 8th spot this year and ultimately come up short. In the past, the Bulls relied on two things: Ben Gordon's ridiculous ability to put up points at will and Derrick Rose's quickness. Gordon is now gone and Rose will likely see reduced minutes tonight and certainly won't be 100%. On the other side, the Spurs are a legitimate title contender once again with their offseason moves. If I'm wrong I'll bow to you, but I just don't see this upset happening.
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                                                • RoagBettor
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-20-09
                                                  • 8355

                                                  #304
                                                  williams, I understand what you're saying, but I don't think the Spurs are in the same class as the Celtics and Lakers, and until they prove me wrong I'm going with a good, young, aggressive home team playing their season opener against an aging team on a back to back. The Bulls will be playing hard tonight and can win this game.

                                                  Like I said, it could go either way but I'll take my chances and if I lose I lose.
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                                                  • Snevens88
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-04-08
                                                    • 405

                                                    #305
                                                    blazers?
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                                                    • lakerboy
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                      • 94379

                                                      #306
                                                      Roag im with you tonite Bulls win tonite. Im not betting against a decent squad like the bulls in their home opener. San an laying points on the road is never good. Remember what Indiana did to them last year in this kind of spot.
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                                                      • ASH0479
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 02-24-09
                                                        • 491

                                                        #307
                                                        Pumped or not, Chicago is not as talented as the Spurs....yes it is the 2nd half of a back to back, the majority of Spurs players sat on the bench and watched a blowout against NO...

                                                        The loss of Gordon will be an adjustment for the Bulls....I just do not think they have the firepower to battle with the Spurs
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                                                        • cap10
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 09-15-07
                                                          • 494

                                                          #308
                                                          roag
                                                          I like this thread;; do u mind if i post now and then? i am a parlay fan also even tho they can be maddening when u have that one loser;;
                                                          looking to fund 5dimes where a 4teamer pays +550 and 3of4 pays +100;; note-pushes are losers

                                                          i agree that this bulls game tonight is tricky;; i slightly lean spurs cause i dont know how good the bulls will be without bgordon;;i think they took a step back and pistons took a step forward w gordon

                                                          i agree with u that denver + the pts is the play

                                                          parlay;; denver+8 and spurs -2.5

                                                          gl
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                                                          • RoagBettor
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-20-09
                                                            • 8355

                                                            #309
                                                            The Bulls play the Celtics tomorrow night. They know they need this game tonight because the Celtics have KG back, added Sheed, and have long memories about the beating Chicago put on them in the Garden in the playoffs. And Chicago does not want to start 0-2 especially with the Cavs showing weakness. And guess what? Sunday they play at Miami. Tonight is their best chance to win one of their first 3 games.

                                                            As I said, I'm a situational bettor, I'm not just looking at what's happening tonight, but also tomorrow and the days to come.
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                                                            • RoagBettor
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-20-09
                                                              • 8355

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by cap10
                                                              roag
                                                              I like this thread;; do u mind if i post now and then? i am a parlay fan also even tho they can be maddening when u have that one loser;;
                                                              looking to fund 5dimes where a 4teamer pays +550 and 3of4 pays +100

                                                              i agree that this bulls game tonight is tricky;; i slightly lean spurs cause i dont know how good the bulls will be without bgordon;;i think they took a step back and pistons took a step forward w gordon

                                                              i agree with u that denver + the pts is the play

                                                              parlay;; denver+8 and spurs -2.5

                                                              gl
                                                              Welcome aboard! Looking forward to your comments and plays. Best of luck!

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                                                              • williams22
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 09-19-08
                                                                • 6134

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by RoagBettor
                                                                The Bulls play the Celtics tomorrow night. They know they need this game tonight because the Celtics have KG back, added Sheed, and have long memories about the beating Chicago put on them in the Garden in the playoffs. And Chicago does not want to start 0-2 especially with the Cavs showing weakness. And guess what? Sunday they play at Miami. Tonight is their best chance to win one of their first 3 games.

                                                                As I said, I'm a situational bettor, I'm not just looking at what's happening tonight, but also tomorrow and the days to come.
                                                                You think they stand a better chance of beating the Spurs (who will be a championship contender again this year) than Miami (who will struggle to make the playoffs)??? Man I just don't see it. Someone please tell me how the Bulls will get more than 90 points. Rose won't even get 20 tonight, who else will score?
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                                                                • RoagBettor
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-20-09
                                                                  • 8355

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Friday night leans are the Sixers, Cavs (yes, they'll beat the Wolves), the Raptors, the Mavs plus the pts, and GS/Pho over anything (less the 8).
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                                                                  • milkshakeballa
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 03-24-09
                                                                    • 204

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Guys...you are all talking about how the Bulls relied on Gordon to do the scoring..which is true...but why??

                                                                    Because in the playoffs Deng was injured. He is back! This team is deep and has balance across the board. No way this Bulls team (short of injuries) is barely fighting for an 8 spot. This team is good.

                                                                    I think they will end up with a better record than ATL.

                                                                    Home opener...young team...going to be EXTREMELY pumped vs. a SA that played last night. Going to see the 1Q 1H lines and maybe make a ML play like Roag.

                                                                    Also probably going to tease the Denver game like you guys said...I don't know WHAT IN THE HECK books are thinking but POR -8 is CRAZY. Denver is way too good off a squad...

                                                                    Money to be made folks! GL! I'l be back later with my plays!
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                                                                    • RoagBettor
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-20-09
                                                                      • 8355

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by williams22
                                                                      You think they stand a better chance of beating the Spurs (who will be a championship contender again this year) than Miami (who will struggle to make the playoffs)??? Man I just don't see it. Someone please tell me how the Bulls will get more than 90 points. Rose won't even get 20 tonight, who else will score?
                                                                      The Bulls have a better chance of beating the Spurs at home in their season opener with the Spurs on a back to back than beating Miami on the road, yes, that's what I believe.

                                                                      Just like you thought the Cavs would be 2-0 by now
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                                                                      • RoagBettor
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-20-09
                                                                        • 8355

                                                                        #315
                                                                        The Denver line has me worried, it has TRAP written all over it. I guess the books saw some weaknesses last night in Denver's game against Utah that they think Portland will expose. I don't care, Denver +16 is still the right play for my teaser. They may lose by more than 8 but I don't see them losing by more than 16.
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