Take Atlanta W/Jurrjens over Chi Cubs W/Dempster NO PLAY if > -120
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Tommygunn
SBR Wise Guy
02-26-09
669
#1822
No P/T plays today
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Romanov
SBR MVP
10-08-10
4137
#1823
Wiz,
Is DET a possible play? I ask because I think Tampa Bay has won 5 in a row.
edit: also, hasn't atl dropped out as a play at this time?
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Formulawiz
Restricted User
01-12-09
1589
#1824
Originally posted by Romanov
Wiz,
Is DET a possible play? I ask because I think Tampa Bay has won 5 in a row.
edit: also, hasn't atl dropped out as a play at this time?
Yes but DET won 3 in a row as well. I have been playing these situations the entire season.
Why would ATL drop out now
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Romanov
SBR MVP
10-08-10
4137
#1825
Originally posted by Formulawiz
Yes but DET won 3 in a row as well. I have been playing these situations the entire season. Why would ATL drop out now
On DET for 2% of the br.
As for ATL, what is their projected line? I see the cubbies are projected at +120. Pinny has Atl at -108. Most books have em in the teens. I just don't see the 25 cent differential.
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Romanov
SBR MVP
10-08-10
4137
#1826
Are you playing atlanta?
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HoulihansTX
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-12-09
30566
#1827
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
Brew Crew GM1 looks like a solid play fellas.
EZ $$$$
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Aussiecapper101
SBR MVP
09-04-10
2220
#1828
Treated myself to a rare bet on bases today, good stuff guys
Can't wait for football!!
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scratbandit
SBR Wise Guy
09-07-09
548
#1829
wow incredible approach in your system plays for sure.
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Formulawiz
Restricted User
01-12-09
1589
#1830
No ML plays yesterday.
YTD 138-72, +52.5 Units
Yes I played ATL yesterday. It was Sportrends free play.
Plays later today
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Formulawiz
Restricted User
01-12-09
1589
#1831
Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140.
MIL?, LAD, LAA?
Keep an eye the ML movement.
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ShivaBowl
SBR Hall of Famer
03-09-10
5133
#1832
08/22/11
H/A System Plays No Plays As of 06/01/11
105-82 +9.42 Units
08/23/11
H/A System Plays NYY ½ Unit Play LAD
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HoulihansTX
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02-12-09
30566
#1833
August 23 Bullpen Projection System
Det 5.08 CWS 3.62 Cincy 3.22 StL 2.08 Pitt 1.19
No Play
Yanks np>-150 2.21
Philly np>-150 1.92
_______________________ TPR
StL 1.3 Brew 1.0
No Play
Yanks np>-150 1.9
Cleve np L2 1.1
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fataliz
SBR Sharp
01-04-10
334
#1834
Originally posted by Formulawiz
Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140. MIL?, LAD, LAA? Keep an eye the ML movement.
formulam can i ask how did u get LAD as a play? i know the proj ML for St Louis is -105 and current ML is +107, wouldn't that be a 12 point difference only? and not the 25 as listed. tks..
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BrewMaster
SBR Wise Guy
12-03-10
555
#1835
Record since 15May11: 197-176 (+18.1 units)
Scientific Approach 22Aug11:
KC
CIN
TEX
ATL
BAL
CWS
Filtered (ARZ) System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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Tommygunn
SBR Wise Guy
02-26-09
669
#1836
Complimentary Selection for 8/23/2011
Take Washington W/Zimmerman over Arizona W/Kennedy NO PLAY if > -115
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Tommygunn
SBR Wise Guy
02-26-09
669
#1837
Aug.23.11 P/T Plays
Atl
LAD
Filtered:
TB (Det W4)
NP>-150
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Formulawiz
Restricted User
01-12-09
1589
#1838
Originally posted by fataliz
formulam can i ask how did u get LAD as a play? i know the proj ML for St Louis is -105 and current ML is +107, wouldn't that be a 12 point difference only? and not the 25 as listed. tks..
This morning LAD was -130. Thats why I tell you to look at the line 15 to 20 minutes prior to start of game
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Romanov
SBR MVP
10-08-10
4137
#1839
I see LAD at -115 right now. If they climb to -120 theyll be a play?
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Tommygunn
SBR Wise Guy
02-26-09
669
#1840
Originally posted by Formulawiz
This morning LAD was -130. Thats why I tell you to look at the line 15 to 20 minutes prior to start of game
Then you calculate ML plays differently then sportstrends?
The only way sportrends would have LAD as a play is if STL was >+120.
All the plays on the sportrends ML page are based off the home team.
Their ex. "EX: Houston's published ML - 170 and our ML -130, play is on Houston. If Boston's published ML is - 120 and our ML is - 150, play is on Boston's opponent."
It says nothing about who HOU and BOS are playing or about their opponents line.
So in this case it does not matter what LAD line is because they are the away team.
Do I not properly understand this system? Please let me know Wiz I would really like your interpretation.
ok im sure TEX is a play now. P. ML is +100, now at -139. am i right formula?
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ShivaBowl
SBR Hall of Famer
03-09-10
5133
#1843
Originally posted by Tommygunn
Then you calculate ML plays differently then sportstrends? The only way sportrends would have LAD as a play is if STL was >+120. All the plays on the sportrends ML page are based off the home team. Their ex. "EX: Houston's published ML - 170 and our ML -130, play is on Houston. If Boston's published ML is - 120 and our ML is - 150, play is on Boston's opponent." It says nothing about who HOU and BOS are playing or about their opponents line. So in this case it does not matter what LAD line is because they are the away team. Do I not properly understand this system? Please let me know Wiz I would really like your interpretation. Thanks, TG - BOL
TG, I think every M/L play is made by subtracting the home teams projected ML, from the actual ML. Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay? Make sure you are basing you play from the HOME teams ML. The away team ML is to be ignored? And then apply the no play if > -140
Formulawiz, could you clear this up? Thanks
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ShivaBowl
SBR Hall of Famer
03-09-10
5133
#1844
Originally posted by fataliz
ok im sure TEX is a play now. P. ML is +100, now at -139. am i right formula?
Fataliz, how did you come up with TEX -139?
Thanks
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Formulawiz
Restricted User
01-12-09
1589
#1845
ML plays went 1-0, +1.0 units. Both LAA & LAD fell out which were both winners.
TG, I think every M/L play is made by subtracting the home teams projected ML, from the actual ML. Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay? Make sure you are basing you play from the HOME teams ML. The away team ML is to be ignored? And then apply the no play if > -140
Formulawiz, could you clear this up? Thanks
Guys its almost the end of the season and your asking the same questions over and over again. Look at MIL yesterday, the Proj ML was 100 which means if they lay -125 to -140 they would become the play. Just read Sportrends description I believe we are using it the same way. Of course the opposite would apply if PIT were laying -125 to -140. Always look at the filters as well.
Guys its almost the end of the season and your asking the same questions over and over again. Look at MIL yesterday, the Proj ML was 100 which means if they lay -125 to -140 they would become the play. Without reading Sportrends description I believe we are going opposite of Sportrends. Of course the opposite would apply if PIT were laying -125 to -140. Always look at the filters as well.
Sorry I dont mean to ask the same ? over and over again, I'm just tried of all the emails about the M/L System..
And how it hasn't had a losing week this year?
Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay just make it a play, home team or away team. Done
Thanks, BOL
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Formulawiz
Restricted User
01-12-09
1589
#1848
Originally posted by ShivaBowl
Sorry I dont mean to ask the same ? over and over again, I'm just tried of all the emails about the M/L System..
And how it hasn't had a losing week this year?
Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay just make it a play, home team or away team. Done
Thanks, BOL
The ML system since April 15th was on fire. I did not start using on this thread until mid May. We would be up another 20 units. The ML system is performing much better this year then last year. Next year I will start as soon as pitchers have completed > 20 Innings.
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`User
SBR Rookie
07-26-11
8
#1849
For now . its means for Texas proj ML = 100 . But current lines is -160 . Big movement ahead . a play for that ?
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ShivaBowl
SBR Hall of Famer
03-09-10
5133
#1850
Originally posted by Formulawiz
The ML system since April 15th was on fire. I did not start using on this thread until mid May. We would be up another 20 units. The ML system is performing much better this year then last year. Next year I will start as soon as pitchers have completed > 20 Innings.
Yes it’s been hot all year $$ but could you just answer this question that I keep getting about the home team or away team M/L play?
Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay just make it a play, home team or away team? EX LAD yesterday play if LAD > -130 Thanks for your time.
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HoulihansTX
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02-12-09
30566
#1851
Originally posted by ShivaBowl
HoulihansTX; I would consider adding a new filter to BPR;Throw out any plays that come in with a rating of under 4.00?When I use BPR, I consider anything < 4.00 as a weak play.BOL
The BPR system is random, and I do not know if excluding plays with a rating under four would help performance.
I would have to backtest. If someone would like to do that, then sure. ASlthough I do not have the time at the moment.
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ShivaBowl
SBR Hall of Famer
03-09-10
5133
#1852
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
The BPR system is random, and I do not know if excluding plays with a rating under four would help performance. I would have to backtest. If someone would like to do that, then sure. ASlthough I do not have the time at the moment.
I dont have the numbers right now but 4.00 > has been working for me.
Also; there’s an additional problem with BPR what is a win or a lose?If the BP is not used,
why should you take a loss or a win on a play? BOL
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ShivaBowl
SBR Hall of Famer
03-09-10
5133
#1853
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
The BPR system is random, and I do not know if excluding plays with a rating under four would help performance. I would have to backtest. If someone would like to do that, then sure. ASlthough I do not have the time at the moment.
Originally posted by ShivaBowl
I dont have the numbers right now but 4.00 > has been working for me. Also; there’s an additional problem with BPR what is a win or a lose?If the BP is not used, why should you take a loss or a win on a play?BOL
TX: I would not maintain a W/L record for BPR next year, why? Because the BPR System should only be used as a tool along with your own handicapping.
I do not make a final decision on plays without checking with the BPR system. BOL
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Romanov
SBR MVP
10-08-10
4137
#1854
Shiva,
Looking back through the thread wiz's m/l plays that have also had an over 4 on the bpr have been great plays
i.e. plays I should've been betting 10% of my br on
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HoulihansTX
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02-12-09
30566
#1855
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
March 26 - Current Overall (303-305) +7.82Units __________________________ Filter: NP >-150
August 19 Bullpen Projection System Brew 5.90 W (-130) TX 3.40 W (-115) Toronto 3.19 L (+100) Boston 2.59 W (-120) Philly 1.65 L (-135) Tampa 1.12 W (-105) Colo 1.07 L (-115) _________________________ TPR Overall (107-111) -11.72Units TX 1.5 W (-115) Boston 1.3 W (-120) Tampa 1.3 W (-105) Colo 1.1 L (-115) Cincy 1.0 W (-130) Toronto 1.0 L (+100)
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
August 20 Bullpen Projection System Brew 4.57 W (-110) TX 2.89 L (-125) Toronto 2.86 L (+130) Boston 2.55 L (-120) Cincy 1.73 L (+100) Wash 1.58 L (+120) Yanks 1.11 L (-135) Det 1.04 W (-140) ______________________________ TPR Yanks 2.2 L (-135) TX 1.5 L (-125) Boston 1.3 L (-120) Cincy 1.0 L (+100) Toronto 1.0 L (+130)
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
August 21
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
Bullpen System Projection Brew 5.52 W (-125) TX 3.00 L (-115) Toronto 2.80 W (+110) Colo 2.48 W (-115) Cincy 1.86 W (-105) ________________________ TPR TX 1.5 L (-115) Cincy 1.0 W (-105) Colo 1.0 W (-115) Toronto 1.0 W (+110)
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
August 22
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
Bullpen Projection System Brew(GM1) 2.47 W (-110) ________________________ TPR Brew(GM1) 1.1 W (-110)
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
August 23
Originally posted by HoulihansTX
Bullpen Projection System Det 5.08 W (+185) CWS 3.62 L (+140) Cincy 3.22 W (-130) StL 2.08 L (+100) Pitt 1.19 L (+125) _______________________ TPR StL 1.3 L (+100) Brew 1.0 W (-130)
March 26 - Current Overall (316-318) +7.35Units __________________________ Filter: NP >-150
August 24 Bullpen Projection System Det 4.64 Cincy 2.60 Cleve 1.73 Boston 1.21
No Play Yanks np>-150 4.90 Philly np>-150 4.63 CWS np(Angels W2) 3.62 StL np L2 2.64
SF np(SD W2) 1.10 _________________________ TPR Overall (107-111) -11.72Units
Cleve 1.1
No Play Yanks np>150 1.9 StL np L2 1.3 Brew np>-150 1.1