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  • Tommygunn
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 02-26-09
    • 669

    #1821
    Complimentary Selection for 8/22/2011
    Take Atlanta W/Jurrjens over Chi Cubs W/Dempster NO PLAY if > -120
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    • Tommygunn
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 02-26-09
      • 669

      #1822
      No P/T plays today
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      • Romanov
        SBR MVP
        • 10-08-10
        • 4137

        #1823
        Wiz,

        Is DET a possible play? I ask because I think Tampa Bay has won 5 in a row.

        edit: also, hasn't atl dropped out as a play at this time?
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        • Formulawiz
          Restricted User
          • 01-12-09
          • 1589

          #1824
          Originally posted by Romanov
          Wiz,

          Is DET a possible play? I ask because I think Tampa Bay has won 5 in a row.

          edit: also, hasn't atl dropped out as a play at this time?
          Yes but DET won 3 in a row as well. I have been playing these situations the entire season.

          Why would ATL drop out now
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          • Romanov
            SBR MVP
            • 10-08-10
            • 4137

            #1825
            Originally posted by Formulawiz
            Yes but DET won 3 in a row as well. I have been playing these situations the entire season. Why would ATL drop out now
            On DET for 2% of the br.

            As for ATL, what is their projected line? I see the cubbies are projected at +120. Pinny has Atl at -108. Most books have em in the teens. I just don't see the 25 cent differential.
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            • Romanov
              SBR MVP
              • 10-08-10
              • 4137

              #1826
              Are you playing atlanta?
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              • HoulihansTX
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 02-12-09
                • 30566

                #1827
                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                Brew Crew GM1 looks like a solid play fellas.
                EZ $$$$
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                • Aussiecapper101
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-04-10
                  • 2220

                  #1828
                  Treated myself to a rare bet on bases today, good stuff guys

                  Can't wait for football!!
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                  • scratbandit
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 09-07-09
                    • 548

                    #1829
                    wow incredible approach in your system plays for sure.
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                    • Formulawiz
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-12-09
                      • 1589

                      #1830
                      No ML plays yesterday.

                      YTD 138-72, +52.5 Units

                      Yes I played ATL yesterday. It was Sportrends free play.

                      Plays later today
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                      • Formulawiz
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 1589

                        #1831
                        Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140.

                        MIL?, LAD, LAA?

                        Keep an eye the ML movement.
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                        • ShivaBowl
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-09-10
                          • 5133

                          #1832
                          08/22/11
                          H/A System Plays

                          No Plays
                          As of 06/01/11
                          105-82 +9.42 Units


                          08/23/11
                          H/A System Plays

                          NYY ½ Unit Play
                          LAD
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                          • HoulihansTX
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 02-12-09
                            • 30566

                            #1833
                            August 23
                            Bullpen Projection System
                            Det
                            5.08
                            CWS 3.62
                            Cincy 3.22
                            StL 2.08
                            Pitt 1.19

                            No Play
                            Yanks np>-150 2.21
                            Philly np>-150 1.92
                            _______________________
                            TPR
                            StL
                            1.3
                            Brew 1.0

                            No Play
                            Yanks np>-150 1.9
                            Cleve np L2 1.1
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                            • fataliz
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 01-04-10
                              • 334

                              #1834
                              Originally posted by Formulawiz
                              Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140. MIL?, LAD, LAA? Keep an eye the ML movement.
                              formulam can i ask how did u get LAD as a play? i know the proj ML for St Louis is -105 and current ML is +107, wouldn't that be a 12 point difference only? and not the 25 as listed. tks..
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                              • BrewMaster
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-03-10
                                • 555

                                #1835
                                Record since 15May11: 197-176 (+18.1 units)

                                Scientific Approach 22Aug11:

                                KC
                                CIN
                                TEX
                                ATL
                                BAL
                                CWS

                                Filtered (ARZ)
                                System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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                                • Tommygunn
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 02-26-09
                                  • 669

                                  #1836
                                  Complimentary Selection for 8/23/2011
                                  Take Washington W/Zimmerman over Arizona W/Kennedy NO PLAY if > -115
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                                  • Tommygunn
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 02-26-09
                                    • 669

                                    #1837
                                    Aug.23.11 P/T Plays

                                    Atl
                                    LAD

                                    Filtered:

                                    TB (Det W4)

                                    NP>-150
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                                    • Formulawiz
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 01-12-09
                                      • 1589

                                      #1838
                                      Originally posted by fataliz
                                      formulam can i ask how did u get LAD as a play? i know the proj ML for St Louis is -105 and current ML is +107, wouldn't that be a 12 point difference only? and not the 25 as listed. tks..
                                      This morning LAD was -130. Thats why I tell you to look at the line 15 to 20 minutes prior to start of game
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                                      • Romanov
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-08-10
                                        • 4137

                                        #1839
                                        I see LAD at -115 right now. If they climb to -120 theyll be a play?
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                                        • Tommygunn
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-26-09
                                          • 669

                                          #1840
                                          Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                          This morning LAD was -130. Thats why I tell you to look at the line 15 to 20 minutes prior to start of game
                                          Then you calculate ML plays differently then sportstrends?

                                          The only way sportrends would have LAD as a play is if STL was >+120.

                                          All the plays on the sportrends ML page are based off the home team.

                                          Their ex. "EX: Houston's published ML - 170 and our ML -130, play is on Houston. If Boston's published ML is - 120 and our ML is - 150, play is on Boston's opponent."

                                          It says nothing about who HOU and BOS are playing or about their opponents line.

                                          So in this case it does not matter what LAD line is because they are the away team.

                                          Do I not properly understand this system? Please let me know Wiz I would really like your interpretation.

                                          Thanks,

                                          TG - BOL
                                          Last edited by Tommygunn; 08-23-11, 04:55 PM.
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                                          • fataliz
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 01-04-10
                                            • 334

                                            #1841
                                            yeah i guess i don't really get it. angels and rangers are both at -142 now. would that make them possible plays? if they go below -140?
                                            Last edited by fataliz; 08-23-11, 06:00 PM.
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                                            • fataliz
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 01-04-10
                                              • 334

                                              #1842
                                              ok im sure TEX is a play now. P. ML is +100, now at -139. am i right formula?
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                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 03-09-10
                                                • 5133

                                                #1843
                                                Originally posted by Tommygunn
                                                Then you calculate ML plays differently then sportstrends? The only way sportrends would have LAD as a play is if STL was >+120. All the plays on the sportrends ML page are based off the home team. Their ex. "EX: Houston's published ML - 170 and our ML -130, play is on Houston. If Boston's published ML is - 120 and our ML is - 150, play is on Boston's opponent." It says nothing about who HOU and BOS are playing or about their opponents line. So in this case it does not matter what LAD line is because they are the away team. Do I not properly understand this system? Please let me know Wiz I would really like your interpretation. Thanks, TG - BOL
                                                TG, I think every M/L play is made by subtracting the home teams projected ML, from the actual ML. Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay? Make sure you are basing you play from the HOME teams ML. The away team ML is to be ignored? And then apply the no play if > -140


                                                Formulawiz, could you clear this up?
                                                Thanks
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                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                  • 5133

                                                  #1844
                                                  Originally posted by fataliz
                                                  ok im sure TEX is a play now. P. ML is +100, now at -139. am i right formula?
                                                  Fataliz, how did you come up with TEX -139?
                                                  Thanks
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                                                  • Formulawiz
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                    • 1589

                                                    #1845
                                                    ML plays went 1-0, +1.0 units. Both LAA & LAD fell out which were both winners.

                                                    YTD 139-72, +53.5 units

                                                    Plays later today.
                                                    Last edited by Formulawiz; 08-24-11, 06:51 AM.
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                                                    • Formulawiz
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                      • 1589

                                                      #1846
                                                      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                      TG, I think every M/L play is made by subtracting the home teams projected ML, from the actual ML. Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay? Make sure you are basing you play from the HOME teams ML. The away team ML is to be ignored? And then apply the no play if > -140


                                                      Formulawiz, could you clear this up?
                                                      Thanks
                                                      Guys its almost the end of the season and your asking the same questions over and over again. Look at MIL yesterday, the Proj ML was 100 which means if they lay -125 to -140 they would become the play. Just read Sportrends description I believe we are using it the same way. Of course the opposite would apply if PIT were laying -125 to -140. Always look at the filters as well.
                                                      Last edited by Formulawiz; 08-24-11, 07:03 AM.
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                                                      • ShivaBowl
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 03-09-10
                                                        • 5133

                                                        #1847
                                                        Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                        Guys its almost the end of the season and your asking the same questions over and over again. Look at MIL yesterday, the Proj ML was 100 which means if they lay -125 to -140 they would become the play. Without reading Sportrends description I believe we are going opposite of Sportrends. Of course the opposite would apply if PIT were laying -125 to -140. Always look at the filters as well.
                                                        Sorry I dont mean to ask the same ? over and over again, I'm just tried of all the emails about the M/L System..
                                                        And how it hasn't had a losing week this year?
                                                        Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay just make it a play, home team or away team. Done

                                                        Thanks, BOL
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                                                        • Formulawiz
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 01-12-09
                                                          • 1589

                                                          #1848
                                                          Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                          Sorry I dont mean to ask the same ? over and over again, I'm just tried of all the emails about the M/L System..
                                                          And how it hasn't had a losing week this year?
                                                          Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay just make it a play, home team or away team. Done

                                                          Thanks, BOL
                                                          The ML system since April 15th was on fire. I did not start using on this thread until mid May. We would be up another 20 units. The ML system is performing much better this year then last year. Next year I will start as soon as pitchers have completed > 20 Innings.
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                                                          • `User
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 07-26-11
                                                            • 8

                                                            #1849
                                                            For now . its means for Texas proj ML = 100 . But current lines is -160 . Big movement ahead . a play for that ?
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                                                            • ShivaBowl
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-09-10
                                                              • 5133

                                                              #1850
                                                              Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                              The ML system since April 15th was on fire. I did not start using on this thread until mid May. We would be up another 20 units. The ML system is performing much better this year then last year. Next year I will start as soon as pitchers have completed > 20 Innings.
                                                              Yes it’s been hot all year $$ but could you just answer this question that I keep getting about the home team or away team M/L play?
                                                              Which ever way you get a 25-cent overlay just make it a play, home team or away team? EX LAD yesterday play if LAD > -130
                                                              Thanks for your time.
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                                                              • HoulihansTX
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 02-12-09
                                                                • 30566

                                                                #1851
                                                                Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                                HoulihansTX; I would consider adding a new filter to BPR; Throw out any plays that come in with a rating of under 4.00? When I use BPR, I consider anything < 4.00 as a weak play. BOL
                                                                The BPR system is random, and I do not know if excluding plays with a rating under four would help performance.
                                                                I would have to backtest. If someone would like to do that, then sure. ASlthough I do not have the time at the moment.
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                                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                                  • 5133

                                                                  #1852
                                                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                  The BPR system is random, and I do not know if excluding plays with a rating under four would help performance. I would have to backtest. If someone would like to do that, then sure. ASlthough I do not have the time at the moment.
                                                                  I dont have the numbers right now but 4.00 > has been working for me.
                                                                  Also; there’s an additional problem with BPR what is a win or a lose? If the BP is not used,
                                                                  why should you take a loss or a win on a play?

                                                                  BOL
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                                                                  • ShivaBowl
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                                    • 5133

                                                                    #1853
                                                                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                    The BPR system is random, and I do not know if excluding plays with a rating under four would help performance. I would have to backtest. If someone would like to do that, then sure. ASlthough I do not have the time at the moment.
                                                                    Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                                    I dont have the numbers right now but 4.00 > has been working for me. Also; there’s an additional problem with BPR what is a win or a lose? If the BP is not used, why should you take a loss or a win on a play? BOL
                                                                    TX: I would not maintain a W/L record for BPR next year, why?
                                                                    Because the BPR System should only be used as a tool along with your own handicapping.
                                                                    I do not make a final decision on plays without
                                                                    checking with the BPR system.
                                                                    BOL
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                                                                    • Romanov
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-08-10
                                                                      • 4137

                                                                      #1854
                                                                      Shiva,

                                                                      Looking back through the thread wiz's m/l plays that have also had an over 4 on the bpr have been great plays

                                                                      i.e. plays I should've been betting 10% of my br on
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                                                                      • HoulihansTX
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 02-12-09
                                                                        • 30566

                                                                        #1855
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        March 26 - Current
                                                                        Overall
                                                                        (303-305) +7.82Units
                                                                        __________________________
                                                                        Filter: NP >-150

                                                                        August 19
                                                                        Bullpen Projection System
                                                                        Brew 5.90 W (-130)
                                                                        TX 3.40 W (-115)
                                                                        Toronto 3.19 L (+100)
                                                                        Boston 2.59 W (-120)
                                                                        Philly 1.65 L (-135)
                                                                        Tampa 1.12 W (-105)
                                                                        Colo 1.07 L (-115)
                                                                        _________________________
                                                                        TPR
                                                                        Overall
                                                                        (107-111) -11.72Units
                                                                        TX 1.5 W (-115)
                                                                        Boston 1.3 W (-120)
                                                                        Tampa 1.3 W (-105)
                                                                        Colo 1.1 L (-115)
                                                                        Cincy 1.0 W (-130)
                                                                        Toronto 1.0 L (+100)
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        August 20
                                                                        Bullpen Projection System
                                                                        Brew 4.57 W (-110)
                                                                        TX 2.89 L (-125)
                                                                        Toronto 2.86 L (+130)
                                                                        Boston 2.55 L (-120)
                                                                        Cincy 1.73 L (+100)
                                                                        Wash 1.58 L (+120)
                                                                        Yanks 1.11 L (-135)
                                                                        Det 1.04 W (-140)
                                                                        ______________________________
                                                                        TPR
                                                                        Yanks 2.2 L (-135)
                                                                        TX 1.5 L (-125)
                                                                        Boston 1.3 L (-120)
                                                                        Cincy 1.0 L (+100)
                                                                        Toronto 1.0 L (+130)
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        August 21
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        Bullpen System Projection
                                                                        Brew 5.52 W (-125)
                                                                        TX 3.00 L (-115)
                                                                        Toronto 2.80 W (+110)
                                                                        Colo 2.48 W (-115)
                                                                        Cincy 1.86 W (-105)
                                                                        ________________________
                                                                        TPR
                                                                        TX 1.5 L (-115)
                                                                        Cincy 1.0 W (-105)
                                                                        Colo 1.0 W (-115)
                                                                        Toronto 1.0 W (+110)
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        August 22
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        Bullpen Projection System
                                                                        Brew(GM1) 2.47 W (-110)
                                                                        ________________________
                                                                        TPR Brew(GM1) 1.1 W (-110)
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        August 23
                                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                        Bullpen Projection System
                                                                        Det 5.08 W (+185)
                                                                        CWS 3.62 L (+140)
                                                                        Cincy 3.22 W (-130)
                                                                        StL 2.08 L (+100)
                                                                        Pitt 1.19 L (+125)
                                                                        _______________________
                                                                        TPR
                                                                        StL 1.3 L (+100)
                                                                        Brew 1.0 W (-130)
                                                                        March 26 - Current
                                                                        Overall
                                                                        (316-318) +7.35Units
                                                                        __________________________
                                                                        Filter: NP >-150

                                                                        August 24
                                                                        Bullpen Projection System
                                                                        Det 4.64
                                                                        Cincy 2.60
                                                                        Cleve 1.73
                                                                        Boston 1.21

                                                                        No Play
                                                                        Yanks np>-150 4.90
                                                                        Philly np>-150 4.63
                                                                        CWS np(Angels W2) 3.62
                                                                        StL np L2 2.64
                                                                        SF np(SD W2) 1.10

                                                                        _________________________
                                                                        TPR
                                                                        Overall
                                                                        (107-111) -11.72Units

                                                                        Cleve 1.1

                                                                        No Play
                                                                        Yanks np>150 1.9
                                                                        StL np L2 1.3
                                                                        Brew np>-150 1.1
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