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  • hagball52
    SBR MVP
    • 09-22-10
    • 3053

    #281
    Atlanta is playing a doubleheader today.
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    • J.M. Disciple
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      • 11-16-10
      • 5154

      #282
      Anyknow the backtest A B C records? A & B seem to be doing great but C bets this year and last year are very poor.


      Also anyone know anything about zack wheeler for NYM pitcher today in game 2? Dont see any stats on covers for him...
      Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-18-13, 03:50 PM.
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      • bigtymer56
        SBR MVP
        • 07-31-12
        • 4742

        #283
        No minor league stats, but here's a nice write-up on him:

        The last time the New York Mets unveiled a prized pitching prospect, Matt Harvey happened. He struck out 11 in his major league debut, and he has yet to cease devouring hitters...


        I hope this kid turns out to be as good as they say he can be. Mets might actually have a future if he is, teaming up with Harvey.
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        • on3
          SBR MVP
          • 08-23-10
          • 2197

          #284
          some books have ATL -180, but 5dimes has them sitting at -189, so...

          (C) ATL -189/+115 to win 57 -- strongly advise you to play RL. system will be graded on the RL play.
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          • on3
            SBR MVP
            • 08-23-10
            • 2197

            #285
            UPDATED for 6/18/2013
            System(s) record Chase:

            Regular system: 76-6-0; Profit: +66.5 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units)
            Filtered System: 11-1-0; Profit: +4 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
            5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units

            Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
            Game 1 (A) win = 55-28; 9-3
            Game 2 (B) win = 18-10; 2-1; 2-1
            Game 3 (C) win = 4-6; 0-1; 0-1

            LABBY LINES FOR 6/19/2013
            25-25-27-27
            22-30-20-31
            x-x-57-27

            Filtered

            30-10-17-x
            x-27-15-25
            10-35-10-37

            REGULAR FOR 6/19/2013
            none

            Filtered

            none

            5/2

            none
            Last edited by on3; 06-19-13, 11:56 AM.
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            • alansmith23
              SBR Hustler
              • 11-26-11
              • 90

              #286
              A Game 1.5 RL Question

              Atl game one we lost because they only won by one run.

              Has there ever been a thought to play a -1 line which has about half the juice the moneyline is.

              If we push game one we scratch the series.

              If we lose same position a little bigger loss but still not as big as the moneyline loss.

              This isnt a reaction to the Atl series, just a good time to ask the question.

              Thank you so much for all your work ON3!! and all other who contribute!!
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              • alansmith23
                SBR Hustler
                • 11-26-11
                • 90

                #287
                The reason I ask is because it seems the philosophy behind the system is that a good team shouldnt get swept by a bad team at home three straight games. Atl didnt but we still lost. Just a thought.
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                • J.M. Disciple
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-16-10
                  • 5154

                  #288
                  People tested this in the past if you read through last year thread. Mostly due to the fact on3 uses the labby, hybrid version of it, the way he has it laid out is best way so far. I am sure -1 drops at least 10% off the win rate. To each his own method though.
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                  • on3
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-23-10
                    • 2197

                    #289
                    UPDATED for 6/20/2013
                    System(s) record Chase:

                    Regular system: 76-6-0; Profit: +66.5 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units)
                    Filtered System: 11-1-0; Profit: +4 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                    5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units

                    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                    Game 1 (A) win = 55-28; 9-3
                    Game 2 (B) win = 18-10; 2-1; 2-1
                    Game 3 (C) win = 4-6; 0-1; 0-1

                    LABBY LINES FOR 6/20/2013
                    20-20-32-32
                    22-30-20-31
                    x-x-57-27

                    Filtered

                    30-10-17-x
                    x-27-15-25
                    10-35-10-37

                    REGULAR FOR 6/20/2013
                    (A) WAS -176 to win 32
                    (A) SF -173 to win 32

                    Filtered

                    none

                    5/2

                    none
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                    • J.M. Disciple
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-16-10
                      • 5154

                      #290
                      On3, do you have a schedule of all the three game series that you use to post the plays and just check the line movement each day?
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                      • on3
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-23-10
                        • 2197

                        #291
                        Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                        On3, do you have a schedule of all the three game series that you use to post the plays and just check the line movement each day?
                        im not that streamlined. i know series' usually start on monday thursday and friday, rarely do they start any other day. so i check the lines, see what's above -145 do a quick schedule check to see if there are any anomalies and then post. otherwise i would happily share any spreadsheet i had.
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                        • on3
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-23-10
                          • 2197

                          #292
                          UPDATED for 6/21/2013
                          System(s) record Chase:

                          Regular system: 77-6-0; Profit: +68 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units)
                          Filtered System: 11-1-0; Profit: +4 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                          5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units

                          Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                          Game 1 (A) win = 56-29; 9-3
                          Game 2 (B) win = 18-10; 2-1; 2-1
                          Game 3 (C) win = 4-6; 0-1; 0-1

                          LABBY LINES FOR 6/21/2013
                          x-33-34-35
                          18-30-38-45
                          x-x-57-27

                          Filtered

                          30-10-17-x
                          x-27-15-25
                          10-35-10-37

                          REGULAR FOR 6/21/2013
                          (B) SF -151 to win 63
                          (A) CHC -175 to win 33
                          (A) PHI -189 to win 34 (RL is +125), play ML unless line goes above -190 then play RL
                          (A) LAA -166 to win 35

                          Filtered

                          (A) CHC -175 to win 30

                          5/2

                          none
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                          • J.M. Disciple
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                            • 11-16-10
                            • 5154

                            #293
                            edit.
                            Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-22-13, 05:56 PM.
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                            • J.M. Disciple
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                              • 11-16-10
                              • 5154

                              #294
                              edit.
                              Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-22-13, 05:56 PM.
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                              • J.M. Disciple
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-16-10
                                • 5154

                                #295
                                edit.
                                Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-22-13, 05:56 PM.
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                                • on3
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-23-10
                                  • 2197

                                  #296
                                  I'm on my way to the airport right now, so I don't have time to post. JM if you can list the very amounts that would be good. I'm heading to the Bahamas for a week, then Vegas.
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                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-16-10
                                    • 5154

                                    #297
                                    edit.
                                    Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-22-13, 05:56 PM.
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                                    • J.M. Disciple
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-16-10
                                      • 5154

                                      #298
                                      yesterday sf lost 95 (-151)
                                      cc won 33
                                      phi lost 64 (ml) (-189)
                                      laa lost 58 (-166)

                                      i split the losses of sf over b and c. crossed off one number top line from cubs win. split losses from phi and laa over A and B. Than averaged out the lines.

                                      A) 65-65-x-x
                                      B) 60-60-60-60
                                      C) 44-44-44

                                      full update with record later tonight.

                                      If someone wants to double check the numbers and help everyone would be appreciative. Doubt i update every day.
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                                      • J.M. Disciple
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                                        • 11-16-10
                                        • 5154

                                        #299
                                        edit.
                                        Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-22-13, 05:57 PM.
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                                        • ken23lau
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 09-11-10
                                          • 296

                                          #300
                                          are you going to take over for on3 while he's gone?
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                                          • J.M. Disciple
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-16-10
                                            • 5154

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by ken23lau
                                            are you going to take over for on3 while he's gone?
                                            If you want to and know the system you are more than welcome to. I helped him out last year, but as you can see I posted the plays and bet amounts during my lunch break which is why it was such a mess posting. I really thought on3 was going to have one last official post before he leaves for the week. I run my own labby on the side because we dont always get the exact juice or follow the exact strategy.

                                            I know the system pretty well, I just dont know if I have time to post consistently. I'll make one official post than who ever wants to make the next one they can. It really doesn't matter as long as the plays get posted accordingly before game time begins and hopefully not right before game time like it happened today.
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                                            • J.M. Disciple
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 11-16-10
                                              • 5154

                                              #302
                                              RECAP FROM YESTERDAY

                                              Originally posted by on3
                                              UPDATED for 6/21/2013
                                              System(s) record Chase:

                                              Regular system: 77-6-0; Profit: +68 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units)
                                              Filtered System: 11-1-0; Profit: +4 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                                              5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units

                                              Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                              Game 1 (A) win = 56-29; 9-3
                                              Game 2 (B) win = 18-10; 2-1; 2-1
                                              Game 3 (C) win = 4-6; 0-1; 0-1

                                              LABBY LINES FOR 6/21/2013
                                              x-33-34-35
                                              18-30-38-45
                                              x-x-57-27

                                              Filtered

                                              30-10-17-x
                                              x-27-15-25
                                              10-35-10-37
                                              REGULAR FOR 6/21/2013
                                              (B) SF -151 to win 63
                                              (A) CHC -175 to win 33
                                              (A) PHI -189 to win 34 (RL is +125), play ML unless line goes above -190 then play RL
                                              (A) LAA -166 to win 35


                                              Filtered

                                              (A) CHC -175 to win 30

                                              5/2

                                              none
                                              UPDATED for 6/22/2013
                                              System(s) record Chase:

                                              Regular system: 78-6-0; Profit: +58.8 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units)
                                              Filtered System: 12-1-0; Profit: +5.65 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                                              5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units

                                              Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                              Game 1 (A) win = 57-31; 10-3
                                              Game 2 (B) win = 18-11; 2-1; 2-1
                                              Game 3 (C) win = 4-6; 0-1; 0-1

                                              LABBY LINES FOR 6/22/2013
                                              65-65-X-X
                                              60-60-60-60
                                              66-66-X-X

                                              Filtered

                                              X-10-17-x
                                              x-27-15-25
                                              10-35-10-37

                                              REGULAR FOR 6/22/2013
                                              (C) SF to win 66
                                              (B) PHI to win 60
                                              (B) LAA to win 60

                                              Filtered

                                              NONE

                                              5/2

                                              NONE

                                              I will base juice of todays wins / losses on the closing lines to make for accurate tracking. A lot of props to on3; realizing how long it takes to update this thing correctly. I keep going back and finding mistakes i made posting with record and stuff. I will do daily updates with profit shown on the record. Hopefully gets easier as this is posted more.

                                              Phi is a nail biter today, but managed to get the win. SF in extra Innings with a hot sub .500 team who might sweep them.... hoping for a late run from the Giants to avoid a series loss. Ill try and post around 12:00pm ET tomorrow for tomorrow's plays and update.
                                              Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-22-13, 06:28 PM.
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                                              • ken23lau
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 09-11-10
                                                • 296

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                If you want to and know the system you are more than welcome to. I helped him out last year, but as you can see I posted the plays and bet amounts during my lunch break which is why it was such a mess posting. I really thought on3 was going to have one last official post before he leaves for the week. I run my own labby on the side because we dont always get the exact juice or follow the exact strategy.

                                                I know the system pretty well, I just dont know if I have time to post consistently. I'll make one official post than who ever wants to make the next one they can. It really doesn't matter as long as the plays get posted accordingly before game time begins and hopefully not right before game time like it happened today.
                                                If you want to you can PM me the system rules and I can help you out with the posting. I can only post the plays though because I don't know how on3 rearranges/organizes his labbys.
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                                                • J.M. Disciple
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-16-10
                                                  • 5154

                                                  #304
                                                  + $53 yesterday.

                                                  UPDATED for 6/23/2013
                                                  System(s) record Chase:
                                                  Regular system: 80-6-0; Profit: +61.45 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units)
                                                  Filtered System: 12-1-0; Profit: +5.65 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                                                  5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units
                                                  Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                                  Game 1 (A) win = 57-31; 10-3
                                                  Game 2 (B) win = 19-12; 2-1; 2-1
                                                  Game 3 (C) win = 5-6; 0-1; 0-1
                                                  LABBY LINES FOR 6/22/2013
                                                  65-65-X-X
                                                  60-60-60-37
                                                  66-37-X-X

                                                  Filtered
                                                  X-10-17-x
                                                  x-27-15-25
                                                  10-35-10-37

                                                  REGULAR FOR 6/23/2013
                                                  LAA [C]3:35ET START TIME to win $37


                                                  Filtered

                                                  None
                                                  5/2

                                                  None


                                                  The way I did the labby is not the best labby management ever, but I am trying to keep the wagers under 6 units as On3 has done all season. Little bit difficult during this bad week. I will not be playing the LAA C bet tomorrow as their starting pitcher is complete garbage and I have no idea how they are even a favorite tomorrow.


                                                  All I did for the labby was split the LAA loss from today over B and C (adding two #s), and crossed off two #s from SF and PHI win. If LAA had a better chance tomorrow might of just divided the loss over the two #s.
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                                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-16-10
                                                    • 5154

                                                    #305
                                                    Who would of thought game would be going so good for LAA. I stick by my analysis though with that pitcher as he is 2-12 this season. I actually bet against this system today and took pit +1.5. Some times i wish covers never existed and I would just play the system blindly instead of looking up stats.

                                                    Little early celebration, but cheers to all who followed the system for how it is suppose to be played.

                                                    Tomorrow there are no new series starting and only four games. Everyone enjoy their day off.
                                                    Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 06-23-13, 03:46 PM.
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                                                    • brigade125
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 07-03-11
                                                      • 685

                                                      #306
                                                      uhhmmm... all tied up in the 9th...cmon angels... dont get swept here...
                                                      Last edited by brigade125; 06-23-13, 05:40 PM.
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                                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-16-10
                                                        • 5154

                                                        #307
                                                        UPDATED for 6/24/2013
                                                        System(s) record Chase:
                                                        Regular system: 80-7-0; Profit: +58.60 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units) LAA (PENDING UNIT COUNT LOSS....)
                                                        Filtered System: 12-1-0; Profit: +5.65 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                                                        5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units
                                                        Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                                        Game 1 (A) win = 57-31; 10-3
                                                        Game 2 (B) win = 19-12; 2-1; 2-1
                                                        Game 3 (C) win = 5-7; 0-1; 0-1
                                                        LABBY LINES FOR 6/24/2013
                                                        65-65-X-X
                                                        60-60-60-37
                                                        66-37-57-X

                                                        Filtered
                                                        X-10-17-x
                                                        x-27-15-25
                                                        10-35-10-37

                                                        REGULAR FOR 6/24/2013
                                                        ???
                                                        Filtered

                                                        ???
                                                        5/2

                                                        ???

                                                        Someone please take over the posting. Its quiet easy. System just based on 3 game home stand with opening lines at -145 or higher. A bet must have closing line of -145 or higher. B and C bets dont matter. Filter system just has O/u on the A bet of 9 or higher. I think on3 was only going to be gone for a few days. Next plays should be on Tuesday.

                                                        Good Night and Good Luck rest of the season. Who ever runs the labby try and keep all bets under six units. Just split A loss over Lines A and B. Split B loss over lines B and C. and C loss for LAA i just left the (-$57) on line C. Odds at 5dimes closed at -153 so I just used that for on3's preference.

                                                        Buenos Noches.

                                                        PS
                                                        If you haven't seen the movie "this is the end" you should definitely watch it!
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                                                        • ken23lau
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 09-11-10
                                                          • 296

                                                          #308
                                                          UPDATED for 6/24/2013
                                                          System(s) record Chase:
                                                          Regular system: 80-7-0; Profit: +58.60 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units) LAA (PENDING UNIT COUNT LOSS....)
                                                          Filtered System: 12-1-0; Profit: +5.65 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                                                          5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units
                                                          Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                                          Game 1 (A) win = 57-31; 10-3
                                                          Game 2 (B) win = 19-12; 2-1; 2-1
                                                          Game 3 (C) win = 5-7; 0-1; 0-1
                                                          LABBY LINES FOR 6/24/2013
                                                          65-65-X-X
                                                          60-60-60-37
                                                          66-37-57-X

                                                          Filtered
                                                          X-10-17-x
                                                          x-27-15-25
                                                          10-35-10-37

                                                          REGULAR FOR 6/24/2013
                                                          No Plays Today
                                                          Filtered
                                                          No Plays Today
                                                          5/2


                                                          PS. World War Z is also a great movie.
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                                                          • ken23lau
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 09-11-10
                                                            • 296

                                                            #309
                                                            Is one unit 100?
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                                                            • TwoCats
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 07-14-12
                                                              • 229

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by ken23lau
                                                              Is one unit 100?
                                                              A unit is whatever you decide to make it - it is generally accepted as being 1% of your bankroll.
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                                                              • ken23lau
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-11-10
                                                                • 296

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by TwoCats
                                                                A unit is whatever you decide to make it - it is generally accepted as being 1% of your bankroll.
                                                                I was talking about in terms of on3's labby lines
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                                                                • J.M. Disciple
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 11-16-10
                                                                  • 5154

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by ken23lau
                                                                  I was talking about in terms of on3's labby lines
                                                                  A UNIT IS $20 for on3 labby lines. He starts with 10-10-10-10 so .5u per #. When ever you tally the units won or loss just take 58.60u profit for example and multiple it by 20. Means System is up $1172 this season so far. If system won $75 today you would take the $1172 + $75 = $1247 than divide by 20 and you get 62.35units profit. I'll check back in once in a while see how its being run, but pretty much doing my own thing now.
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                                                                  • sportscreep1
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 03-02-10
                                                                    • 292

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Shouldn't have "gave it a go" NO Bos or Oak or Chi!!! All 2 game series.
                                                                    sorry folks

                                                                    Gonna give this a go.....Please double check!!

                                                                    UPDATED for 6/25/2013
                                                                    System(s) record Chase:Regular system: 80-7-0; Profit: +58.60 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units) LAA (PENDING UNIT COUNT LOSS....)
                                                                    Filtered System: 12-1-0; Profit: +5.65 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)
                                                                    5/2 chase: 2-1-0; profit: -7.5 units
                                                                    Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                                                    Game 1 (A) win = 57-31; 10-3
                                                                    Game 2 (B) win = 19-12; 2-1; 2-1
                                                                    Game 3 (C) win = 5-7; 0-1; 0-1
                                                                    LABBY LINES FOR 6/24/2013
                                                                    65-65-X-X
                                                                    60-60-60-37
                                                                    66-37-57-X


                                                                    Filtered
                                                                    X-10-17-x
                                                                    x-27-15-25
                                                                    10-35-10-37


                                                                    REGULAR FOR 6/25/2013
                                                                    Possible....
                                                                    (A) Wash (line -144, has to be -145)

                                                                    Filtered

                                                                    5/2
                                                                    Last edited by sportscreep1; 06-25-13, 11:57 AM. Reason: Made big mistake!
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                                                                    • alansmith23
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 11-26-11
                                                                      • 90

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Is Bos only a 2 game series?

                                                                      Is Bos only a 2 game series?

                                                                      Also CHW only a 2 game series?

                                                                      Also OAK?

                                                                      WAS is a three game series tho i think...
                                                                      Last edited by alansmith23; 06-25-13, 11:20 AM.
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                                                                      • sportscreep1
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 03-02-10
                                                                        • 292

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by alansmith23
                                                                        Is Bos only a 2 game series?

                                                                        Also CHW only a 2 game series?

                                                                        Also OAK?

                                                                        WAS is a three game series tho i think...
                                                                        you are correct, sorry, thanks for actually knowing the system! Haha
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