on3's MLB 2013 Opening Day System Thread

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-08-13, 05:08 PM

prosknowsports was on Texas last night¿ Can you provide some more details of their service? If its anything like docs Im staying far away! learned that my first year.

Google it real quick and see their record at 87-76 like 53%. Would like more details from you please.

**on3** · 08-08-13, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

prosknowsports was on Texas last night¿ Can you provide some more details of their service? If its anything like docs Im staying far away! learned that my first year.

Google it real quick and see their record at 87-76 like 53%. Would like more details from you please.

they are low volume cappers, releasing only 1-3 plays a day and often times lay off if they dont see a significant advantage. never heavy favorites and every so often big dogs. i cant stand tout services that release 4-7 plays a day, so the low volume fits much more with my style.

i dont know anything about docs, never used them.

**on3** · 08-09-13, 12:39 PM

UPDATED for 8/9/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 132-11-0; Profit: +107.75 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units)

Filtered System: 26-1-0; Profit: +20.75 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 90-53; 19-8
Game 2 (B) win = 31-21; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 11-10; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/9/2013
34-34-34-34-34
41-40-41-x-37
45-40-40-30-30

Filtered
x-32-30-x
27-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/9/2013 (must close -145 or higher)
(A) WAS -169 to win 34
(A) CIN -175 to win 34
(A) ATL -220/+105 bet 34 -- play RL
(A) STL -215/+100 to win 34 -- play RL
(A) ARI -215/+115 bet 34 -- play RL

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

5/2
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**J.M. Disciple** · 08-09-13, 03:31 PM

I know I shared the other day on Tex and dont want to clog the thread too much with personal plays, but just thought I would mention Det, Tex RL, and Bal as good plays today.

On3 do they allow you to post plays from prosknowsports? If you could post I would really appreciate it. I am just curious to their up and down swings for tracking purposes. I do not mind even if you post after the game is over. Just curious how streaky they are. I want to track it for labby purposes in the future. If they are purely value plays than labby will not work as well.

Let me know if your allowed to post.

Thanks
Austin

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-09-13, 10:44 PM

Wish system was this good every year! Freakin line makers last year was a joke.

**on3** · 08-10-13, 01:50 PM

(B) STL +105 bet 58 -- play RL
(B) ARI -160 to win 58

**on3** · 08-11-13, 12:49 PM

sorry for the late post

UPDATED for 8/11/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 135-11-0; Profit: +113 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units)

Filtered System: 26-1-0; Profit: +20.75 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 93-54; 19-8
Game 2 (B) win = 31-23; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 11-10; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/11/2013
x-17-17-34-34
58-69-58-46-37
54-54-50-51-51

Filtered
x-32-30-x
27-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/11/2013 (must close -145 or higher)
(C) STL -168 to win 51
(C) ARI -144 bet 51

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

5/2
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**on3** · 08-12-13, 10:46 AM

UPDATED for 8/11/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 136-12-0; Profit: +105.5 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 26-1-0; Profit: +20.75 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 93-54; 19-8
Game 2 (B) win = 31-23; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 12-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/11/2013
35-35-35-34-34
46-47-46-46-47
54-54-50-51-35

Filtered
x-32-30-x
27-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/12/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher)
(A) COL -165 to win 35
(A) NYY -165 to win 35
(A) ATL -165 to win 35
(A) LAD -205/+115 bet 34 -- play RL
(A) KC -200/+108 bet 34 -- play RL

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
(A) COL -165 to win 32

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**ken23lau** · 08-12-13, 07:02 PM

Colorado is under 500 no?

**alexknyc** · 08-12-13, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by ken23lau

Colorado is under 500 no?

They're over .500 at home.

**ken23lau** · 08-13-13, 07:37 AM

That's confusing. I reread post #358 and it said .500 overall or at home. So I think it's not because they are over .500 at home but simply because they are at home. Please confirm on3.

**sportscreep1** · 08-13-13, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by ken23lau

That's confusing. I reread post #358 and it said .500 overall or at home. So I think it's not because they are over .500 at home but simply because they are at home. Please confirm on3.

Colorado home record is over .500, that's why they are a play. And all plays originate cuz it's a home team.

**on3** · 08-13-13, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by ken23lau

That's confusing. I reread post #358 and it said .500 overall or at home. So I think it's not because they are over .500 at home but simply because they are at home. Please confirm on3.

2h filter is +.500 overall record OR +.500 home record.

**on3** · 08-13-13, 12:43 PM

UPDATED for 8/13/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 140-12-0; Profit: +112.5 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 27-1-0; Profit: +22.25 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 97-55; 20-8
Game 2 (B) win = 31-23; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 12-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/13/2013
31-31-31-x-x
46-47-46-46-47
54-54-50-51-35

Filtered
x-x-30-x
27-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/13/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher)
(B) ATL -250/-115 to win 47 -- play RL
(A) TB -180 to win 31
(A) STL -173 to win 31
(A) OAK -250/-125 to win 31 -- play RL

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

5/2
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**on3** · 08-13-13, 01:46 PM

here is the thread to JM NFL: http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-bettin...-modified.html

**on3** · 08-14-13, 12:44 PM

UPDATED for 8/14/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 142-12-0; Profit: +116.5 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 27-1-0; Profit: +22.25 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 98-57; 20-8
Game 2 (B) win = 32-23; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 12-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/14/2013
35-37-37-x-x
46-47-46-46-48
54-54-50-51-35

Filtered
x-x-30-x
27-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/14/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher)
(B) TB -300/-125 to win 48 -- play RL
(B) OAK -245/-115 to win 47 -- play RL

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

5/2
none

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-14-13, 03:31 PM

Is it purely the record why Oakland is such a big favorite? I understand TB even with their current losing streak being a favorite with a huge pitching mismatch, but oakland ...

**on3** · 08-14-13, 04:49 PM

for my followers in this thread, PROS is on STL today and a lean on NYY.

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-14-13, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by on3

for my followers in this thread, PROS is on STL today and a lean on NYY.

What do you think about it? Trends would agree with current momentum of both teams, but hate to go against weaver for LAA. Maybe take both RL and hope to go at least 1-1 for +odds. Did you research any of the games yourself on3 or just bet blind with them being on it?

**on3** · 08-14-13, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

What do you think about it? Trends would agree with current momentum of both teams, but hate to go against weaver for LAA. Maybe take both RL and hope to go at least 1-1 for +odds. Did you research any of the games yourself on3 or just bet blind with them being on it?

I did research them. PROS sends out trends and stats in the morning and then his plays in the afternoon. so i have full confidence that they are well researched. so i just put them through a smell test and I place his plays 95% of the time.

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-14-13, 07:26 PM

Thanks for the info. I had nyy under and after seeing them crushing laa, decided to get on STL +170 -1.5. Hopefully STL covers. Should of just took both blindly.

**on3** · 08-15-13, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

Thanks for the info. I had nyy under and after seeing them crushing laa, decided to get on STL +170 -1.5. Hopefully STL covers. Should of just took both blindly.

morning play is NYY

**on3** · 08-15-13, 11:29 AM

UPDATED for 8/15/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 142-12-0; Profit: +116.5 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 27-1-0; Profit: +22.25 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 98-57; 20-8
Game 2 (B) win = 32-25; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 12-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/15/2013
35-37-37-x-x
56-57-56-56-58
64-64-60-61-59

Filtered
x-x-30-x
27-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/15/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher)
(C) TB -205/+100 to win 64 -- play RL
(C) OAK -220/+100 to win 64 -- play RL
(A) DET -200/+110 bet 37 -- play RL

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

5/2
none

**sportscreep1** · 08-15-13, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by on3

UPDATED for 8/15/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 142-12-0; Profit: +116.5 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 27-1-0; Profit: +22.25 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 98-57; 20-8
Game 2 (B) win = 32-25; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 12-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/15/2013
35-37-37-x-x
56-57-56-56-58
64-64-60-61-59

Filtered
x-x-30-x
27-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/15/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher)
(C) TB -205/+100 to win 64 -- play RL
(C) OAK -220/+100 to win 64 -- play RL

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

5/2
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isnt Det a play on RL? 3 game series starting against KC -200 odds....

**on3** · 08-15-13, 11:56 AM

fixed

**on3** · 08-16-13, 01:57 PM

UPDATED for 8/16/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 145-12-0; Profit: +124.75 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 27-1-0; Profit: +22.25 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 99-57; 20-8
Game 2 (B) win = 32-25; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 14-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/16/2013
20-20-20-20-20-20
46-47-46-43-53
x-x-60-61-59

Filtered
27-x-30-x
x-x-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/16/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher to be official)
(A) TB -145 to win 20
(A) BOS -182 to win 20
(A) ATL -179 to win 20
(A) TEX -174 to win 20
(A) PIT -147 to win 20
(A) BAL -169 to win 20

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
(A) BOS -182 to win 27

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**on3** · 08-16-13, 01:58 PM

LAA is filtered out, sub .500

**sportscreep1** · 08-17-13, 09:36 AM

Wasn't Balt a filtered play?? It was at 9, did it close under?

**ken23lau** · 08-17-13, 11:31 AM

^ closed at 8.5

**on3** · 08-17-13, 01:31 PM

UPDATED for 8/17/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 148-12-0; Profit: +127.75 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 27-1-0; Profit: +22.25 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 7-1-0; profit: +8.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 102-60; 20-9
Game 2 (B) win = 32-25; 4-4; 4-4
Game 3 (C) win = 14-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/17/2013
30-30-28-30-30-30
46-47-46-43-43
x-x-60-61-59

Filtered
27-25-30-x
x-25-26-27
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/17/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher to be official)
(B) BOS -131 to win 46
(B) TEX -105 to win 47
(B) BAL -190/+105 bet 46

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
(B) BOS -131 to win 27

5/2
BOS -131 to win 100

**on3** · 08-18-13, 11:13 AM

good day yesterday. no plays today. enjoy your sunday everyone.

UPDATED for 8/18/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 151-12-0; Profit: +134.75 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 28-1-0; Profit: +23.5 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 8-1-0; profit: +13.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 102-60; 20-9
Game 2 (B) win = 35-25; 5-4; 5-4
Game 3 (C) win = 14-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/18/2013
30-30-28-30-30-30
20-20-20-43-43
x-x-40-41-39

Filtered
27-25-30-x
x-25-26-x
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/18/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher to be official)
none

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

5/2
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**on3** · 08-19-13, 12:09 PM

UPDATED for 8/19/2013
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 151-12-0; Profit: +134.75 units (Recoverable losses: LAA 4.5 units, LAD 17.5 units, BOS 7.75 units, LAA 7 units, TEX 6.25 units, ATL 7 units, LAA 9.5 units, WAS 8.75, LAA 9 units, SF 11.5 units, TB 7 units, ARI 10 units)

Filtered System: 28-1-0; Profit: +23.5 units (Recoverable losses: TEX 7 units)

5/2 chase: 8-1-0; profit: +13.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 102-60; 20-9
Game 2 (B) win = 35-25; 5-4; 5-4
Game 3 (C) win = 14-11; 3-1; 3-1

LABBY LINES FOR 8/19/2013
30-30-28-30-30-30
20-20-20-43-43
x-x-40-41-39

Filtered
27-25-30-x
x-25-26-x
x-x-x-25

REGULAR FOR 8/19/2013 (A bets must close -145 or higher to be official)
(A) CIN -170 to win 30
(A) TEX -290/-140 to win 30 -- play RL
(A) OAK -190/+100 to win 30 -- play RL

Filtered (must close o/u 9 or higher)
none

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**schiman3** · 08-20-13, 07:47 AM

on3 -

I've been reading your past 2 years of posts on this system and finally got an account to point something out.

1st off, I wanted to tell you how impressive your details are to maintain this system and answering questions. It's actually a great looking easy to follow betting formula for baseball.

That said, I believe you have 1 flaw in your bookkeeping. And I actually read every page of the threads posts to make sure I understand and I'm not trying to be a troll or poke holes in the system at all.

The flaw is, when you're labbying, you are putting your losses into your future bets and therefore not counting them as losses unless the whole series loses. That's fine, except when you count a win, you have to count it at your base amount - not the full amount of what won.

e.g.
If my orig labby is 20-20-20-20,
Game 1: I lose, -44. New Labby 20-20-20-20-44. Reshuffle: 31-31-31-31
Game 2: I lose, -62. New Labby 31-31-31-31-62. Reshuffle: 46-46-47-47
Game 3: I win +93, New Labby x-46-47-x
Game 4: I win +93, New Labby x-x-x-x

Overall - I am now +80 [-44-62+93+93](+2units). Which makes sense because I had 2 wins @ $40/gm.
However in your thread you are counting it as +186 or +4.65units. So you're not really taking into consideration losses where the series doesn't lose.

However, you're system is still VERY profitable, just not as profitable as +134.75 units on the regular system.
I would say its 151 units (wins) - 105.75 units (4.5+17.5+7.75+7+6.25+7+9.5+8.75+9+11.5+ 7+10 losses)= +45.25 units

Still pretty awesome compared to any tout I've seen in 1 baseball system...so like I started, extremely impressive.

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-20-13, 11:13 AM

would like to see a spread sheet of all the plays and odds. I thought and seen this before and wasn't sure. Figured there would be people pointing it out had his numbers been off earlier. I am not sayin your wrong but would like to see spread sheet and why your numbers don't agree with others.

**schiman3** · 08-20-13, 12:51 PM

It was tracking correctly until post #111 on page 4. System was -1 unit. Game hit for $75 and the new units were 2.75. It should have been 0 units. It's kind of been broken ever since.

Again, not trying to poke holes, it's actually really impressive and I only started noticing the math mistake when I followed for a week w/ my own book. At the end of the week, my book's units didn't match to this thread. Took me some time to figure out why.

Also think of it this way. Up 134 units...Is anyone here really up $2680 in their book? Most likely you're around +$860 if you don't lose a lot of side action.