What is your religion?

[subs]

just because the organised religions of the world are mostly distorted and about control does not mean that all spirituality is nonsense.

its like saying the media lies, so i don't believe in space shuttles (u get my idea here). yes the message coming from religion is mostly misleading but there are good starting points to explore.

so unless you explore for yourself your soul/higher self/whatever, then how can you say it is not there. have you looked? i do not believe we are simply the chatter that is in our heads.

i believe we should really investigate and stop giving responsibility for this away to a bunch of deluded, blinkered simpletons, even if they mostly mean well, and find out if there is really something there or not.

religion is bad but knowing yourself fully may be the realest thing?

love this quote:

"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us - universe - a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."

Albert Einstein - def not a deluded simpleton...

[JohnGalt2341]

I agree that the Bible is made up. However, the Bible was not an attempt at science. Where do you come up with such nonsense? However, to blindly believe that science improves each year is ignorant. You don't know much about how the pursuit of science works in the University system if you believe this. Here is how it works. Some professor makes a discovery. Then he becomes the "king" of that field. Anyone who tries to pursue a line of reasoning or research that contradicts the king will be punished severely and probably kicked out of the university.

The Bible attempted to explain things... how is that not at the very least an attempt at science?

If Science improves 1/1000th of 1 percent in a year then that's an improvement. Can you name a time in the last 100 years where Science actually got worse?

[JohnGalt2341]

Hey subs... is that Bill Hicks in your avatar?

[Socrates]

Athiest.

[scumfrog]

I'm spiritual but not oriented.

[rki999]

I am in a light zone indeed.Am I?

[bettilimbroke999]

Without religion would there be any wars?

The Jews and Muslims keep the wars going

[urge2kill]

Strict atheism isn't that different from religion. One believes in the non-existence of a God without being able to prove it, and the other believes in the existence of God without being able to prove it.

[LostBankroll]

I dont even know. Shits crazy makes me tremble at night. Hopefully I die peacfully.

[turnip]

I voted atheist/agnostic but I'm frequently in awe of the power of Time.

[jnsbanman]

I would have to vote aethism as well

[bettilimbroke999]

Strict atheism isn't that different from religion. One believes in the non-existence of a God without being able to prove it, and the other believes in the existence of God without being able to prove it.

Ridiculous statement, I cant prove there isnt a tooth fairy either, does that mean that its 50/50 the tooth fairy exists just bc I cant disprove it? When you make something ridiculous up the burden is on you to prove it not on the rest of the world to disprove it

I saw a T-Rex walking down the road the other day, can you disprove it? No you werent there, so I believe theres a T-Rex that survived and since you cant disprove it we have an equal chance of being right

Thats why no one with a brain believes any religion, its all cultural programming, you believe whatever ppl tell you to believe, bc you are either too stupid to think for yourself and/or you dont really give a shit you go along with it

One problem with cultural programming is that its much easier to swim with the current than against it, so you get mass delusions like religion to go on and on and on, I mean who wants to tell some psycho Muslim in the Middle East their religion is completely made up horseshit, next thing you know your intelligent ass is getting blown up by a suicide bomber, so they have no one around to disagree with their garbage

[necro]

atheism

i piss/spit/ejaculate/shit on all religions equally

[necro]

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[bettilimbroke999]

I dont even know. Shits crazy makes me tremble at night. Hopefully I die peacfully.

Ppl always say this, doesnt almost everybody die peacefully? I mean even if you're in some horrific accident you were prolly dead half second after impact so you never felt your limbs torn off and shit

[The Madcap]

Without religion would there be any wars?

The Jews and Muslims keep the wars going

Don't kid yourself. All wars are geo-political. The religious aspect is strictly a motivational tactic.

[subs]

Hey subs... is that Bill Hicks in your avatar?

Yes John - man was a fvcking genius. should be required viewing for all high school kids...

[beermankirk]

No religion.

Those dumb a-holes, came knocking on my door at 9am, and woke me up to tell me about Mr.Jesus. They just about met him a minute later...

[The Madcap]

No religion.

Those dumb a-holes, came knocking on my door at 9am, and woke me up to tell me about Mr.Jesus. They just about met him a minute later...

I like to fuk with those people. I'll invite them in, start discussing the scripture, and then I'll tell them I have to "go to the bedroom to get my bible." What I'm really doing is telling my lady friend to wait ten minutes then come out butt naked and walk into the kitchen and take the whip cream and chocolate syrup out of the fridge and start turning herself into a sex sundae.

At first they are just startled. But when she comes into the room and starts making out with me they get real uncomfortable. The killer is when she faces them and spreads her legs and asks if they want to eat the cherry. The excuses they give to get the hell out of there are hilarious, but not nearly as funny as the looks on their faces. Haven't seen one in a while though. And I could really use a sex sundae.

[curious]

The Bible attempted to explain things... how is that not at the very least an attempt at science?

If Science improves 1/1000th of 1 percent in a year then that's an improvement. Can you name a time in the last 100 years where Science actually got worse?

You are kidding right? Just because some idiot tries to explain something does not mean that they are using science.

You need to study up on what mankind was doing say 5,000 years ago and older. Building monuments, buildings, and cities that we could not even begin to match today. And far more. Their knowledge of astronomy, astrology, and astro physics was way beyond ours. Using sciences that we have not even discovered, let alone figured out how to build devices based on that science.

What the "scientists" have taught you about where the ancients were in terms of their understanding of the universe is dead wrong, if not out and out lies. Read up on it yourself you will see what I am talking about.

[OSUCOWBOYS]

Atheism

[curious]

Can you name a time in the last 100 years where Science actually got worse?

I can name lots of examples of this. But, you could find them out for yourself if you really were interested in knowing. Which I don't think you are because you make blatantly false statements which says to me that either you have not done any of this research yourself or you are lying. Not sure which.

There are so many examples of advancements which were purposely sabotaged and lost in the last 100 years or so. Take Nicolae Tesla for instance. His work on sending electricity through the atmosphere, which he proved works, was lost when he died. I think that General Electric sabotaged him and stole his work but I cannot prove it.

Another example, the Nazi scientists were way ahead of the rest of the world at the end of WWII. If they had not had Hitler, Goering, Himmler and the rest of the NAZI lunatics redirecting their efforts they would have created a military force that we could not have even begun to fight against. At the end of the war the US and the Soviet Union stole all of their research and artifacts and many of them disappeared forever. The US space program came from the NAZIs, but they had other technologies way beyond the space program that were hidden or purposely abandoned.

I could go on and on but I don't think you really want to know these truths, I think you are just spewing nonsense.

[urge2kill]

Ridiculous statement, I cant prove there isnt a tooth fairy either, does that mean that its 50/50 the tooth fairy exists just bc I cant disprove it? When you make something ridiculous up the burden is on you to prove it not on the rest of the world to disprove it

I saw a T-Rex walking down the road the other day, can you disprove it? No you werent there, so I believe theres a T-Rex that survived and since you cant disprove it we have an equal chance of being right

Thats why no one with a brain believes any religion, its all cultural programming, you believe whatever ppl tell you to believe, bc you are either too stupid to think for yourself and/or you dont really give a shit you go along with it

Who said anything about there being a 50/50 chance of there being a tooth fairy or a 50/50 chance you actually saw a dinosaur? Oh, I see, you just made that up thinking you're being intelligent by changing my point. You can't prove that something doesn't exist unless you know everything that exists. Only an idiot would infer that means that there's a 50/50 chance of something existing.

[The Madcap]

I can name lots of examples of this. But, you could find them out for yourself if you really were interested in knowing. Which I don't think you are because you make blatantly false statements which says to me that either you have not done any of this research yourself or you are lying. Not sure which.

There are so many examples of advancements which were purposely sabotaged and lost in the last 100 years or so. Take Nicolae Tesla for instance. His work on sending electricity through the atmosphere, which he proved works, was lost when he died. I think that General Electric sabotaged him and stole his work but I cannot prove it.

Another example, the Nazi scientists were way ahead of the rest of the world at the end of WWII. If they had not had Hitler, Goering, Himmler and the rest of the NAZI lunatics redirecting their efforts they would have created a military force that we could not have even begun to fight against. At the end of the war the US and the Soviet Union stole all of their research and artifacts and many of them disappeared forever. The US space program came from the NAZIs, but they had other technologies way beyond the space program that were hidden or purposely abandoned.

I could go on and on but I don't think you really want to know these truths, I think you are just spewing nonsense.

Curious,

there's a book titled "Electrifying America" by David Nye that goes into how GE rose to power. He doesn't mention Tesla directly very often, but there's some interesting shit in there. (If you can put up with the occasional social bullshit)

[FourLengthsClear]

I am both agnostic and antagonistic.

[eidolon]

The Bible attempted to explain things... how is that not at the very least an attempt at science?

If Science improves 1/1000th of 1 percent in a year then that's an improvement. Can you name a time in the last 100 years where Science actually got worse?

Since Gore made a hockey stick

[JohnGalt2341]

I can name lots of examples of this. But, you could find them out for yourself if you really were interested in knowing. Which I don't think you are because you make blatantly false statements which says to me that either you have not done any of this research yourself or you are lying. Not sure which. There are so many examples of advancements which were purposely sabotaged and lost in the last 100 years or so. Take Nicolae Tesla for instance. His work on sending electricity through the atmosphere, which he proved works, was lost when he died. I think that General Electric sabotaged him and stole his work but I cannot prove it. Another example, the Nazi scientists were way ahead of the rest of the world at the end of WWII. If they had not had Hitler, Goering, Himmler and the rest of the NAZI lunatics redirecting their efforts they would have created a military force that we could not have even begun to fight against. At the end of the war the US and the Soviet Union stole all of their research and artifacts and many of them disappeared forever. The US space program came from the NAZIs, but they had other technologies way beyond the space program that were hidden or purposely abandoned. I could go on and on but I don't think you really want to know these truths, I think you are just spewing nonsense.

There is a HUGE difference between the general population accepting something and using it and THEN moving backwards versus society not accepting something when they should have to begin with. I don't deny what you said about Tesla or the Nazi Scientists or even people like Copernicus, Galileo, or Davinci. They were all ahead of their time for sure. Lets say I invented a new form of Metal that was stronger and lighter and cheaper than steel. If everyone rejected it, it would be everyone's loss. I know stuff like this happens all the time. However, lets say it was accepted and the metal industry was revolutionized and everyone used it for everything. If a year or several years later everyone went back to using heavier, weaker, more expensive metals... that would be a regression. This doesn't happen in science very often. And certainly not as a whole. Only religion promotes this kind of thing.

[CrimsonQueen]

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the only TRUE God.

You didn't have Pastafarian as one of your options... so I chose atheist.

[losturmarbles]

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the only TRUE God.

RAmen

His noodly appendages guide us all.

[bettilimbroke999]

Who said anything about there being a 50/50 chance of there being a tooth fairy or a 50/50 chance you actually saw a dinosaur? Oh, I see, you just made that up thinking you're being intelligent by changing my point. You can't prove that something doesn't exist unless you know everything that exists. Only an idiot would infer that means that there's a 50/50 chance of something existing.

I'm saying you seem to think you're not losing the argument, that both proving and disproving religion are equally impossible thus indicating you think both arguments are equivalent, you're just too stupid to understand that 50/50 means equal

[urge2kill]

I'm saying you seem to think you're not losing the argument, that both proving and disproving religion are equally impossible thus indicating you think both arguments are equivalent, you're just too stupid to understand that 50/50 means equal

When did I say the chances of there being a god and not being a god are the same? I said you can't know either. Why do you continue to make up some 50/50 BS that I didn't say or imply?

And all impossibilities are equally impossible. Perhaps you're too dumb to know that possibility and probability are not the same.

[nick88]

No official religion for me: animism

[curious]

There is a HUGE difference between the general population accepting something and using it and THEN moving backwards versus society not accepting something when they should have to begin with. I don't deny what you said about Tesla or the Nazi Scientists or even people like Copernicus, Galileo, or Davinci. They were all ahead of their time for sure. Lets say I invented a new form of Metal that was stronger and lighter and cheaper than steel. If everyone rejected it, it would be everyone's loss. I know stuff like this happens all the time. However, lets say it was accepted and the metal industry was revolutionized and everyone used it for everything. If a year or several years later everyone went back to using heavier, weaker, more expensive metals... that would be a regression. This doesn't happen in science very often. And certainly not as a whole. Only religion promotes this kind of thing.

Your example is totally wrong. Science regresses all the time because of human interference. Just because EVERYONE did not accept the NAZI flying bell does not make it that humans did not regress science for their own personal gain.

I don't care what the general population accepts, they mostly just listen to what they are spoon fed by the politicians and the big money interests.

You obviously have not studied anything technical at the college level. Professors squash advancements all the time because the advancement makes them look bad.

[bettilimbroke999]

When did I say the chances of there being a god and not being a god are the same? I said you can't know either. Why do you continue to make up some 50/50 BS that I didn't say or imply?

And all impossibilities are equally impossible. Perhaps you're too dumb to know that possibility and probability are not the same.

If you're brain was as large as a pea you would be easier to have a debate with, who gives a shit that both are impossible to prove if one is backed up by all the logic and available information in the world and one is one of a dozen culturally popular completely madeup fairy tales with no scientific evidence. Its impossible to prove theres not T-Rexs flying in a space shuttle waiting to land on earth and take over, but who the **** cares that you cant disprove it, that's not a valid argument for supporting a belief in it. You're too stupid to understand I give up, go to church they'll explain everything for you, you're just who they're looking for. Someone that believes if something is lottery winning unlikely and makes absolutely zero sense that its still reasonable to believe in it since it cant be absolutely disproven. By the way watch out for the T-Rexs when they land my friend.

[JohnGalt2341]

I agree that the Bible is made up. However, the Bible was not an attempt at science. Where do you come up with such nonsense?

I'm not the only on who thinks the Bible was an attempt at Science. Ever heard of Sam Harris? Probably not. Anyway, I can assure you that he has 10 times the education that you have and he TOO believes religion is a failed science.