What is your religion?

**JohnGalt2341** · 12-24-10, 08:58 PM

Originally posted by THE PROFIT

I got expelled for 2 days in the 7th grade for having that on a t shirt

I thought it was funny, Board of education has no sense of humor, fuk em!

If I saw a 7th grader wearing this I would think the kid was a Prodigy. Copernicus probably got expelled in the 7th grade for suggesting the Earth could possibly be round.

**losturmarbles** · 01-07-11, 06:24 PM

**JohnGalt2341** · 01-07-11, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by losturmarbles

Bill O'reilly is INDEED a MORON and an IDIOT. His listening skills are about as bad they come which is consistent with most morons and idiots. I wish Christopher Hitchens would go on his show and flat out tell him how stupid he is.

**gwiz** · 01-07-11, 09:04 PM

oreilly is a jackass but silvermans argument was weak at best

**JohnGalt2341** · 01-08-11, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by gwiz

oreilly is a jackass but silvermans argument was weak at best

Silverman didn't say anything that wasn't 100% true. If that's how you define weak then so be it.

**THE PROFIT** · 01-08-11, 02:34 AM

oreilly says theres a god because you cant argue with the sun rising & setting, the time coming in & out????

So there's a god because Bill didnt read that book in 6th grade "How things work" or pay attention in science class or what? Guys a fukin douche

**kokky** · 01-08-11, 05:13 AM

I'm Catholic, but I don't practice it literally, I have my own understanding of God

**Finalnub** · 01-08-11, 05:29 AM

Atheist

**losturmarbles** · 01-08-11, 03:49 PM

**gwiz** · 01-08-11, 04:35 PM

think of yourself as an animal then go read the bible with this in mind.

And ask yourself honestly aren't animals considered lower than man

and doesn't man have dominion over animals

so why would you want to think of yourself as an animal.

**JohnGalt2341** · 01-08-11, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by gwiz

think of yourself as an animal then go read the bible with this in mind. And ask yourself honestly aren't animals considered lower than man and doesn't man have dominion over animals so why would you want to think of yourself as an animal.

I got a better idea. Think of yourself as RATIONAL FREE THINKER and then go read the first 3 pages of the Bible. Then ask yourself... is this really rational? Or was I completely brainwashed into believing such nonsense? If you think Virgin Births and Talking Snakes are Rational... then you are not Rational at all.

**The Madcap** · 01-08-11, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

I got a better idea. Think of yourself as RATIONAL FREE THINKER and then go read the first 3 pages of the Bible. Then ask yourself... is this really rational? Or was I completely brainwashed into believing such nonsense? If you think Virgin Births and Talking Snakes are Rational... then you are not Rational at all.

Why does faith in a higher power need be rational? If it were rational, then it wouldn't be beyond human comprehension, in which case, it wouldn't be of a higher power.

**JohnGalt2341** · 01-08-11, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by The Madcap

Why does faith in a higher power need be rational? If it were rational, then it wouldn't be beyond human comprehension, in which case, it wouldn't be of a higher power.

Faith in a higher power isn't necessarily irrational. That's not what I said. What I said was, the first 3 pages of the Bible are irrational. Not everyone that believes in a higher power believes in the Bible. You may or may not be aware of that. Now, go read the first 3 pages of the Bible and tell me it's not complete nonsense. To be honest with you, I can't read it without breaking out in laughter. It disturbs me deeply that people actually believe this garbage.

**Resler** · 01-08-11, 09:42 PM

Glad to see the majority of us are logically thinking atheists.

**losturmarbles** · 01-08-11, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by The Madcap

Why does faith in a higher power need be rational? If it were rational, then it wouldn't be beyond human comprehension, in which case, it wouldn't be of a higher power.

Better question:
Why does belief in a higher power need faith?

**The Madcap** · 01-08-11, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

Faith in a higher power isn't necessarily irrational. That's not what I said. What I said was, the first 3 pages of the Bible are irrational. Not everyone that believes in a higher power believes in the Bible. You may or may not be aware of that. Now, go read the first 3 pages of the Bible and tell me it's not complete nonsense. To be honest with you, I can't read it without breaking out in laughter. It disturbs me deeply that people actually believe this garbage.

The evolution of man's understanding of the known and unknown world has progressed an awful lot in the last 3,000 years. Sometimes man has to invent irrational stories to explain incomprehensible events. And so of course mankind is going to create deities to personify things like the creation of the universe.

So folks 3,000 years ago ascribed the Big Bang to the hand of their defined god. What's the problem?

**The Madcap** · 01-08-11, 09:58 PM

Originally posted by losturmarbles

Better question:
Why does belief in a higher power need faith?

It doesn't.

Faith is for doubters.

Wrap your head around that.

**losturmarbles** · 01-08-11, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by The Madcap

It doesn't.

Faith is for doubters.

Wrap your head around that.

Well most believers would disagree with you.

No need to. My position is knowledge needs no faith. Having faith is admitting you don't know.
So basically anyone that says they have faith is really agnostic, but would rather fool themselves with fake security.

**The Madcap** · 01-08-11, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by losturmarbles

Having faith is admitting you don't know.
So basically anyone that says they have faith is really agnostic, but would rather fool themselves with fake security.

Exactly.

Rock on.

**jgilmartin** · 01-09-11, 12:39 AM

Hilarious summary of the first few pages of the bible.

**gwiz** · 01-09-11, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by losturmarbles

Well most believers would disagree with you.

No need to. My position is knowledge needs no faith. Having faith is admitting you don't know.
So basically anyone that says they have faith is really agnostic, but would rather fool themselves with fake security.

this is close but it misses much

**gwiz** · 01-09-11, 02:19 PM

I am gonna show how the bible is a puzzle,the number next to beast is a concordance number and it tells the original meaning of the word

Gen 3:1Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast2416 of the field which the LORD God had made . And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said , Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden

you are an animal thus a beast now the serpent is nä·khäsh' this word can refer to the ammonite.

Deu 23:3An Ammonite 5984 or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD ; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever :

why?because the ammonite come from inbreeding of Lot and his two daughters thus they are not children of Abraham

they are however also from Shem of Noah which is why they are more subtle than the other beasts.

Lot and Abraham are brothers

**gwiz** · 01-09-11, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

I got a better idea. Think of yourself as RATIONAL FREE THINKER and then go read the first 3 pages of the Bible. Then ask yourself... is this really rational? Or was I completely brainwashed into believing such nonsense? If you think Virgin Births and Talking Snakes are Rational... then you are not Rational at all.

read the first page and try to find a "LORD" god,

**The Madcap** · 01-09-11, 03:30 PM

The beast was Diocletian. You had to have his mark in order to conduct business in the markets.

**JohnGalt2341** · 01-09-11, 09:09 PM

Originally posted by The Madcap

The evolution of man's understanding of the known and unknown world has progressed an awful lot in the last 3,000 years. Sometimes man has to invent irrational stories to explain incomprehensible events. And so of course mankind is going to create deities to personify things like the creation of the universe. So folks 3,000 years ago ascribed the Big Bang to the hand of their defined god. What's the problem?

It doesn't bother me that people believed in nonsense 3,000 years ago or even 1,000 years ago. They didn't know any better. But for people today to still believe in the Bible is like believing the earth is flat. Just like they did 1,000 years ago. The Bible was like a first attempt at science... and it wasn't very good. Science improves each and every year. Yet some people still believe in nonsense. Hopefully you don't.

**The Madcap** · 01-09-11, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

It doesn't bother me that people believed in nonsense 3,000 years ago or even 1,000 years ago. They didn't know any better. But for people today to still believe in the Bible is like believing the earth is flat. Just like they did 1,000 years ago. The Bible was like a first attempt at science... and it wasn't very good. Science improves each and every year. Yet some people still believe in nonsense. Hopefully you don't.

I find neither the theories of contemporary science nor the idea that there's a robed apparition in the sky to be suitable explanations for the creation of the universe. But I don't have a problem with human beings believing the creation of the universe was the inspiration of a divine hand, nor do I have a problem with them celebrating and continuing the historical traditions that resulted from trying to explain such beliefs.

Whether we're all connected through the might of an all-powerful deity, or merely some lone strand of DNA that traces us all back to the first amoeba, the only thing that really matters to me is that we are all a part of something larger than ourselves that none of us could conceivably fathom, and because of that, subjugating one group's beliefs of an unknown we are also incapable of realizing is about as credible as one virgin explaining sex to another.

**BetterBizness** · 01-10-11, 01:08 AM

Despite all logical arguments from the aggies/athies... You don't account for miracles and that which can't be explained...

Seahawks winning a playoff game for example...

**The Madcap** · 01-10-11, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

Despite all logical arguments from the aggies/athies... You don't account for miracles and that which can't be explained...

Seahawks winning a playoff game for example...

Oh, no doubt. Thought I heard trumpets bellowing in the ether when Seattle scored that last TD.

**Ian** · 01-10-11, 01:42 AM

Am I the only one who caught Bill O'Reilly saying that he didn't know what causes tides in the video in post 457?

It's at about 5:20 of the video if anyone wants to see the guy embarrass himself.

**The Madcap** · 01-10-11, 01:46 AM

Colbert nailed him on that pretty good the other day.

**Ace_of_Spades** · 01-10-11, 01:50 AM

71 people voted Christian, but they gamble, what the?

**The Madcap** · 01-10-11, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Ace_of_Spades

71 people voted Christian, but they gamble, what the?

You've got to understand the historical context of the ban on gambling. It came around at a time when people didn't have the type of money layin around like most people do in this country.

If you gambled back then it was pretty much impossible not to be wagering the rent or food money. Plus, most of the games were rigged. Modern Christians don't follow the shell fish rules or premarital sex laws either. Back then there wasn't refrigeration or condoms, and so eating shell fish was more likely to cause disease/sickness, and nothing to stop sex from ending in pregnancy. It's not the act themselves so much as the result. In many ways the Bible was just a health code, but since they didn't have the FDA, they used dogma.

**Ace_of_Spades** · 01-10-11, 01:57 AM

Silverman couldn't even get his point or a word in, in that interview.

**curious** · 01-10-11, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by BetterBizness

Despite all logical arguments from the aggies/athies... You don't account for miracles and that which can't be explained...

Seahawks winning a playoff game for example...

Why do you make up names to call us? We don't call you Chrissies.

So, describe a miracle that was witnessed and documented in the modern world which can only be explained by Chrissie beliefs.

And describe something that happened in the modern era which cannot be explained which proves that the Chrissies are correct.

**curious** · 01-10-11, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

It doesn't bother me that people believed in nonsense 3,000 years ago or even 1,000 years ago. They didn't know any better. But for people today to still believe in the Bible is like believing the earth is flat. Just like they did 1,000 years ago. The Bible was like a first attempt at science... and it wasn't very good. Science improves each and every year. Yet some people still believe in nonsense. Hopefully you don't.

I agree that the Bible is made up. However, the Bible was not an attempt at science. Where do you come up with such nonsense?

However, to blindly believe that science improves each year is ignorant. You don't know much about how the pursuit of science works in the University system if you believe this. Here is how it works. Some professor makes a discovery. Then he becomes the "king" of that field. Anyone who tries to pursue a line of reasoning or research that contradicts the king will be punished severely and probably kicked out of the university.