What is your religion?

**nastradamus** · 09-10-10, 09:51 AM

Atheist

**Odessa** · 09-10-10, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by gwiz

because education is a form of mind control

really just gonna come down to what kind of things you learn about I guess

kind of the same principle as the movie "Trading Places"

WRONG!

Education shows rational evidence supporting theory of evolution while religion shows irrational myths and beliefs in "virgin" birth and invisible "dog" to whom they pray albeit unsuccessfully.

**roasthawg** · 09-10-10, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by gwiz

I will try to clear that statement up a little but I'm not sure I can

the word bible means "a collection of books" that in the time of jesus wasn't a bible thus no old testament

so while it might seem to us today that he was referring to the "old testament" he was referring to a specific book or text

He said "scriptures" not "scripture", he was referring to the Old Testament.

**itchypickle** · 09-10-10, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by roasthawg

He said "scriptures" not "scripture", he was referring to the Old Testament.

Next we'll get into the Council of Nicea and which were picked or not picked...gotta love the history

**itchypickle** · 09-10-10, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Odessa

WRONG!

Education shows rational evidence supporting theory of evolution while religion shows irrational myths and beliefs in "virgin" birth and invisible "dog" to whom they pray albeit unsuccessfully.

Just a rewriting of Isaiah 7:14 in order to justify the beginning of the story to be told beginning in 1 Matthew 20 or 21.

**robert_wrath** · 09-10-10, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

Atheism: Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

Agnostic: One who believes that there is no proof of the existence of God but does not deny the possibility that God exists.

I consider these 2 definitions very similar. I happen to be both an Atheistic and an Agnostic. I don't believe in God but I don't deny the possibility that God might exist. Some people are only Agnostics. Some people are only Atheists. Regardless, neither of them practices a religion. This is why I clumped the 2 together. There are thousands of denominations of Christianity but in my mind they are all pretty much similar which is why I didn't list all the denominations of Christianity. This goes for Muslim and Judaism as well.

There are differences by way of definition of terms described. One denies/rebukes God of higher power, the other refuses to believe until proven.

**Odessa** · 09-10-10, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by itchypickle

Just a rewriting of Isaiah 7:14 in order to justify the beginning of the story to be told beginning in 1 Matthew 20 or 21.

Thank you, very educational! I personally never read collection of fairy tales, but very curious what else was rewritten to justify something else?

**brooks85** · 09-10-10, 10:41 AM

so as of now, there are 91 brainwashed people at SBR.

**Socrates** · 09-10-10, 10:55 AM

I'm an Athiest.

**brooks85** · 09-10-10, 11:28 AM

one day, id say a couple thousand years, our species will take a step forward in evolution but it will be more of an enlightenment than an actual physical change. We will no longer recognize anyone's individual religion because they are all the same. They were all created by animals who had 0 understanding of the world around them and needed a purpose to be here. It is a feeling every human that has walked this earth has felt. That is the one thing all religions have in common, the sense of purpose. The only reason you believe whatever book you read says is because you happened to pop out of a vagina in that country. If you are muslim you could just as easily be catholic and vice-versa. The reason christianity was so popular was because you had a story of purpose being spread to a bunch of illiterate, frankly dumb, indivdiduals. Like morden day middleeast.

**paco** · 09-10-10, 11:55 AM

Muslim till the day I die.

**coloradobuff** · 09-10-10, 11:56 AM

lutheran

**Odessa** · 09-10-10, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by coloradobuff

lutheran

Congratulations! You're 92nd brainwashed person at SBR.

**Dad** · 09-10-10, 12:26 PM

My standing assumption is that all religious types are nutjobs until proven otherwise. So far its been a valid assumption.

**itchypickle** · 09-10-10, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by paco

Muslim till the day I die.

A belated "have a Shana Tova" to you!

Gotta love how sports capping can bring together Jews and Muslims

**jcubs55** · 09-10-10, 01:49 PM

Raised Catholic... went to church every Sunday as a kid... once I started thinking for myself I became agnostic... and no agnosticism and atheism are NOT the same at all...

**JohnGalt2341** · 09-19-10, 12:43 PM

The Meaning of Life:

**gwiz** · 09-20-10, 09:34 PM

A debate on atheism with Christopher Hitchens, author of God Is Not Great, and David Berlinski, author of The Devil's Delusion. This event was hosted by the Fixed Point Foundation (fixed-point.org) in Birmingham, Alabama.

**Dragoş** · 10-10-10, 02:46 PM

I'm a Christian, who believe in a divine force.

**stealthyburrito** · 10-10-10, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by Dad

My standing assumption is that all religious types are nutjobs until proven otherwise. So far its been a valid assumption.

some are good people.

as long as they keep it to themselves they are alright by me.

**jackpot269** · 10-10-10, 03:38 PM

I am of the religion of good people I'm just not practicing right now!!!!!!

**ChileCheese** · 10-10-10, 04:37 PM

Are Muslims as crazy in real life as they are on TV?

**JohnGalt2341** · 10-10-10, 07:51 PM

Originally posted by ChileCheese

Are Muslims as crazy in real life as they are on TV?

Funny thing... most Muslims I've met are actually good people. It's a shame that they were brainwashed at such a young age.

**sporx** · 11-12-10, 05:32 PM

Atheist from Turkey.

**JohnGalt2341** · 11-12-10, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by sporx

Atheist from Turkey.

That's inspiring. What's the percentage of Atheists in Turkey?

**gwiz** · 11-14-10, 06:09 PM

Link is not working- Removed-)

**sporx** · 11-25-10, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by JohnGalt2341

That's inspiring. What's the percentage of Atheists in Turkey?

I don't know the percentage but not less than 10% .Most of the people is already moderate muslim in my country.So atheist-agnostic percentage is increasing quickly.

Why is the atheist percentage increasing ? There are three factors.

1-Mustafa Kemal...He was an atheist or agnostic.You know : he was the creator of Turkey Republic after the world war one.He created turkey laic republic after the ottoman empire.

2-Muslims mistakes..(El kaide,hamas,hizbullah terorism.Inhuman actions in Iran and Saudi Arabia)

3-Internet.

**sporx** · 11-26-10, 04:59 AM

God is not a moderate

I like this guy..Sam Harris.

**scotty99dog99** · 11-26-10, 05:11 AM

No official religion for me

**gwiz** · 11-26-10, 10:41 AM

sam harris is an intellectual idiot,his argument boils down to if you throw your computer at people that's proof all computers are bad

**gwiz** · 11-26-10, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by itchypickle

Don't leave out the fact that the 'devil' per se is a Christian belief....not a Jewish one.

So Isreal doesn't believe in satan they don't believe in christ but they do believe in god.A god that is gonna have the whole world bowing to jerusalem[weren't salems a type of cigarette].This is where I see the split.If the mexicans believed in a god that promised the world to them I wonder how Isreal would feel about that.

**StackinGreen** · 11-26-10, 01:31 PM

j galt's video

I don't know how ill/misinformed you are but I feel it is necessary to point out how false the representation is in JGalt's video. Very few people in the christian world, and certainly not the ancient/eastern christians would ever say that God made anything in order to be praised. The video is so corrupted it doesn't understand this simple point.

While some people (I could see muslims having this conception of God since they don't know what he is doing, ever) might have that idea it is far from any real, intelligent person's thoughts or the teaching of, let's say Christianity (or Judaism or even non-person religions like Buddhism Hinduism). If Christians actually had that point of view, they would totally bastardize the person of Jesus Christ, which is the whole point of their religion. Dude suffers in the worst way, gets crucified, never having offspring and leaving his mother alone? And by the way, unjustly, for doing nothing wrong but telling the truth?

So from a Christian point of view God is the one that as a human suffers in order to be like the free will-gifted bastard creation, so that He can raise them up to be what they are supposed to be --> like Him.

How is that is in any way similar to the "I created you to praise me" idea? It's an affront to suggest it, as shown above, and has never been ANY sort of mainstream teaching.

I just needed to correct the record. Regardless of where you stand of this issue, facts are facts and logic is logic.

**JohnGalt2341** · 11-26-10, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by StackinGreen

I don't know how ill/misinformed you are but I feel it is necessary to point out how false the representation is in JGalt's video. Very few people in the christian world, and certainly not the ancient/eastern christians would ever say that God made anything in order to be praised. The video is so corrupted it doesn't understand this simple point. While some people (I could see muslims having this conception of God since they don't know what he is doing, ever) might have that idea it is far from any real, intelligent person's thoughts or the teaching of, let's say Christianity (or Judaism or even non-person religions like Buddhism Hinduism). If Christians actually had that point of view, they would totally bastardize the person of Jesus Christ, which is the whole point of their religion. Dude suffers in the worst way, gets crucified, never having offspring and leaving his mother alone? And by the way, unjustly, for doing nothing wrong but telling the truth? So from a Christian point of view God is the one that as a human suffers in order to be like the free will-gifted bastard creation, so that He can raise them up to be what they are supposed to be --> like Him. How is that is in any way similar to the "I created you to praise me" idea? It's an affront to suggest it, as shown above, and has never been ANY sort of mainstream teaching. I just needed to correct the record. Regardless of where you stand of this issue, facts are facts and logic is logic.

I too don't know how "ill/misinformed" you are but if you think the story of Jesus is an original one then you are misinformed indeed. The likelihood that Jesus ever even existed is slim. This video can illustrate this FACT far better than I ever could.

Also, if you truly believe in logic it's unlikely that you believe in Virgin Births or Talking Snakes. If you do, then you have no business even mentioning the word logic.

**JohnGalt2341** · 11-26-10, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by gwiz

sam harris is an intellectual idiot,his argument boils down to if you throw your computer at people that's proof all computers are bad

How do you figure? Please name 3 religious people alive that you feel are intellectually superior to Sam Harris. I honestly don't think there are any. Here's a video to inspire you.

**JohnGalt2341** · 11-26-10, 02:57 PM

Here's another great video by my favorite "intellectual idiot".