What is your religion?

[stealthyburrito]

the christians are late to the party, they are pulling away.

[gwiz]

G,

the fact that you are a grown ass man & think you need to be saved from something is pretty ludicrous to me

you ever see the wicker man

I need to be saved from muslims who if they had it their way I would be killed for not believing in their god

I need to be saved from people like opus dei who think my every breathe is a sin

so ya it's silly but I need to be saved

[DrStale]

the christians are late to the party, they are pulling away.

The funny thing is that none of these people that are voting are responding. Granted yeah, atheists as a group tend to come off like assholes and thats probably a good part of it, but a lot of it is that they just dont like to debate because they know they dont really have a leg to stand on. They get backed into a corner rather quickly, and then raise the white flag that has "Faith" written across it.

[gwiz]

The Law is derived from individuals. read "The Law" by Bastiat.

drug prohibition and other illegal activities are actually perversions of the law.

"I govern myself and that is a christian concept" really? succumbing to your religious authority (whether it be the church or an old book), is hardly governing yourself. complicit slavery is still slavery, especially when it's of the mind. "christ is the law in my mind"

I succumb to knowledge and wisdom,not perfectly mind you but that is what I use as a god in my mind

not some unprovable man in the sky

the bible says that the kingdom of heaven is inside of you but everyone here thinks of heaven as some place you go after you die,why is that,

I would say it's a product of misinformation to discourage

[stealthyburrito]

The funny thing is that none of these people that are voting are responding. Granted yeah, atheists as a group tend to come off like assholes and thats probably a good part of it, but a lot of it is that they just dont like to debate because they know they dont really have a leg to stand on. They get backed into a corner rather quickly, and then raise the white flag that has "Faith" written across it.

even funnier thing they can present better arguments, not saying atheists here would be convinced, but there are more rational arguments out there then "look around you" and because "so many believe in it". too bad, this debate could've been more interesting, but christians are stuck on the bible.

[Albert Pujols]

thanks for clarifying, its so refreshing to talk with someone who thinks he knows all the answers, where have you been all this time? so many ppl are lost and searching for what you obviously know....douche

Thanks for clarifying where I'm wrong and illogical. Or just mock me and call me a douche.

[Albert Pujols]

The funny thing is that none of these people that are voting are responding. Granted yeah, atheists as a group tend to come off like assholes and thats probably a good part of it, but a lot of it is that they just dont like to debate because they know they dont really have a leg to stand on. They get backed into a corner rather quickly, and then raise the white flag that has "Faith" written across it.

I've laid out some very simple reasons for why I believe there is an intelligent designer. Not one person has responded.

[Albert Pujols]

the term "random" evolution shows you have no idea how our species got here

If it isn't random, it has a creator. It either just happens, or something is guiding it. It's one or the other.

[THE PROFIT]

I've responded!

[stealthyburrito]

i responded as well, it somewhere on pg 9.

[THE PROFIT]

Pujols, I like your way of thinking, You may be completely opposed to all this bullshit & just making an argument, IDK, but we can agree to disagree & that'll be that as far as I'm concerned, you have every right to believe anything you want. I'm sorry if anything I said offended you.

You haven't been here long but I've read most your posts. You're a good addition to the board & welcome!

[Albert Pujols]

Pujols, I like your way of thinking, You may be completely opposed to all this bullshit & just making an argument, IDK, but we can agree to disagree & that'll be that as far as I'm concerned, you have every right to believe anything you want. I'm sorry if anything I said offended you.

You haven't been here long but I've read most your posts. You're a good addition to the board & welcome!

Thanks, buddy. We can disagree on this, and I respect your right to believe what you want. We can also agree that sportsbetting is great, and talk about the things we do agree on.

[mrmarket]

Your arrogance and lack of respect is disturbing. The burden of proof is on you, buddy. The creation as a whole is all the evidence I need, and I rest my case. Prove that there is no God. You can't.

I don't think the world is a beautiful place, and I don't have much faith. But the beginning of wisdom is to recognize the obvious. To say that anyone who believes in God is not intelligent or logical is just ridiculous. I have a very high IQ, and give atheism a 0% chance of being true.

But whatever. If you want to be an arrogant dick, more power to you.

The burden of proof is on YOU. I've examined the arguments for a god's existence and every one is flawed or been disproved countless times. There is no evidence to support the existence of god. It doesn't exist.

People can be logical and can display intelligence in other parts of their lives but if they claim to believe in god their faculties in these areas have certainty been suspended.

Also, what does IQ have to do with anything? Any person of average intelligence can see that god does not exist. In fact you even bringing IQ up leads me to believe if you were ever properly tested it should shatter yet another delusion you hold. I'm not even going to bother wasting anymore time arguing the uselessness of the metric or with you.

[Albert Pujols]

The burden of proof is on YOU. I've examined the arguments for a god's existence and every one is flawed or been disproved countless times. There is no evidence to support the existence of god. It doesn't exist.

People can be logical and can display intelligence in other parts of their lives but if they claim to believe in god their faculties in these areas have certainty been suspended.

Also, what does IQ have to do with anything? Any person of average intelligence can see that god does not exist. In fact you even bringing IQ up leads me to believe if you were ever properly tested it should shatter yet another delusion you hold. I'm not even going to bother wasting anymore time arguing the uselessness of the metric or with you.

This is the dumbest comment in the history of the world.

[JohnGalt2341]

The burden of proof is on YOU. I've examined the arguments for a god's existence and every one is flawed or been disproved countless times. There is no evidence to support the existence of god. It doesn't exist. People can be logical and can display intelligence in other parts of their lives but if they claim to believe in god their faculties in these areas have certainty been suspended. Also, what does IQ have to do with anything? Any person of average intelligence can see that god does not exist. In fact you even bringing IQ up leads me to believe if you were ever properly tested it should shatter yet another delusion you hold. I'm not even going to bother wasting anymore time arguing the uselessness of the metric or with you.

I agree completely. I guess that makes me an arrogant idiot according to Albert.

I never understood why religious people consider Atheists and Agnostics arrogant. Most Atheists and Agnostics don't claim to have all the answers. Religious beliefs are practically the very DEFINITION of arrogance.

[JW Cash]

I was very skeptical when the last person asked me what my religion was......

[JohnGalt2341]

this isn't about fake friends its about real power and who has it, you say nobody has seen petey but I have seen petey he wears a black robe and people call him your honor instead of petey lets try and get to the nub of this the government that said slavery was legal by force of law, was playing god and the whole concept of government is a god concept I govern myself and that is a christian concept when someone tells me I cannot do something they are acting as god so the law is god I cannot legally gamble which leaves me open to being taken advantage of christ is the law in my mind so when someone tells me it's illegal to smoke cannabis I have to wonder who made them god when someone tells me I cannot gamble they are playing god and I have to wonder how they got that power me and you are closer in thought than you think but it will take a long time to come around to understanding because words are not an end all

I have much respect for your passion for individual liberties. We are very much the same when it comes to this. However, it seems to me that the Bible and the Qaran(among other books) want to take these individual liberties away from us. This is just one of the many things that I don't like about religion.

[Albert Pujols]

I agree completely. I guess that makes me an arrogant idiot according to Albert.

I never understood why religious people consider Atheists and Agnostics arrogant. Most Atheists and Agnostics don't claim to have all the answers. Religious beliefs are practically the very DEFINITION of arrogance.

I don't remember you posting anything arrogant. Belief in God is not a religious belief. And I never once claimed to have answers for anything. There is a God, I'm not God, and that's about all I know.

[JW Cash]

If there indeed is a God.....does he rule over what happens on Jupiter, Neptune and galaxies
that are a trillion light years away ?????

[gwiz]

I have much respect for your passion for individual liberties. We are very much the same when it comes to this. However, it seems to me that the Bible and the Qaran(among other books) want to take these individual liberties away from us. This is just one of the many things that I don't like about religion.

religion is nothing more than politics the way I'm looking at it

If I was born in turkey I would have to declare a legal religion,that is asinine IMO

I fully believe in seperation of church and state which IMO still hasn't completely happened

spirituality is a personal issue and is the reason I refuse to associate with any organized religion and christianity is just another business at the highest levels

[JohnGalt2341]

If there indeed is a God.....does he rule over what happens on Jupiter, Neptune and galaxies that are a trillion light years away ?????

God spoke to me the other day... he said "The people on planet Earth are so arrogant... they hold a Miss Universe Pageant and yet they don't include any of the hotties from any of the other millions of planets that I have created."

[GELATINOUS CUBE]

other.

[Doug]

SBRism !

I worship John Walker.

[OmgUrMom]

God is an alien. His Name is Obi wan Kenobi (he planted the stars wars movie to seed his existence. In a few thousands years everyone will realize the truth and worship Kenobi. Clearly he was the chosen one, not Darth Vader or Harry Potter.

[Dr.Gonzo]

65% of SBR are retarded.

[Odessa]

In her radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant
Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus
18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura, written by a US man,
and posted on the Internet. It's funny, as well as informative:

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I
have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that
knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend
the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination ... End of
debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other
elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you
clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in
Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair
price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how
do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors.
They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus
35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated
to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than
homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there
'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I
have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading
glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room
here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.
19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes
me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two
different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments
made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also
tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go
to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them?
Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family
affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy
considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan.

James M. Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus,
Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education
University of Virginia

PS (It would be a damn shame if we couldn't own a
Canadian)

[beach nut]

Nice to see such a large showing of fellow atheists/agnostics on here. I only wish the world population had as high a proportion of non-believers as SBR does. The world would be a much better place.

[Odessa]

Nice to see such a large showing of fellow atheists/agnostics on here. I only wish the world population had as high a proportion of non-believers as SBR does. The world would be a much better place.

Just matter of time. As soon as we reach a critical point of more than 50%, the game will be over. Let me repeat the "immortal" words of Bill Meyer: "Religion must die for humanity to survive!"

[losturmarbles]

In her radio show, Dr Laura Schlesinger said that, as an observant
Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus
18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance.

The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura, written by a US man,
and posted on the Internet. It's funny, as well as informative:

Dear Dr. Laura:

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I
have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that
knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend
the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination ... End of
debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other
elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and
female, provided they are from neighboring nations. A friend of mine
claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you
clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in
Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair
price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her
period of Menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how
do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a
pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors.
They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus
35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated
to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an
abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than
homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there
'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I
have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading
glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room
here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair
around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.
19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes
me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two
different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments
made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also
tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go
to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them?
Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family
affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy
considerable expertise in such matters, so I'm confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your adoring fan.

James M. Kauffman, Ed.D. Professor Emeritus,
Dept. Of Curriculum, Instruction, and Special Education
University of Virginia

PS (It would be a damn shame if we couldn't own a
Canadian)

[Snowball]

there are many more passages in the Bible against homosexuality than in Leviticus.
nobody who has God can commit a homosexual act without feeling guilt.

[itchypickle]

Crazy Jew here...reporting in!

[JohnGalt2341]

How do I nominate a post? Post #341 is Gold!! Gold Jerry!!! Gold!!!

[GonzosDirtyTrail]

Ethical Hedonist here!

[Odessa]

there are many more passages in the Bible against homosexuality than in Leviticus.
nobody who has God can commit a homosexual act without feeling guilt.

I never read collection of fairy tales, therefore you probably right. But this doesn't answer any of the 10 questions quoted. Maybe you need to clarify with your religious leader how respond to them.

[gwiz]

If you have read the bible you would know that the law of moses was done away with by the blood of christ

the fact dr laura thinks levtican law has meaning shows that she don't know about the bible but tries to use it to her advantage

or knows full well what she is saying and is trying to create confusion about the "word of god"