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[slewfan]

It will be closer to 85 million in November.

No matter what we call Dems or republicans, Dumb, smart, morons and idiots. THEY ALL KNOW THAT TRUMP IS AN ASSHOLE. You know it too.

Problem is, Biden and Harris are even worse than Trump and you know that.

[jackpot269]

you can say that about most politicians. I mean look at Biden for example. Has anyone lied more than him? I doubt it. The bleach lie, the "very fine people on both sides lie, the "my son never did business with China" lie, the losers and suckers lie, I mean JFC what world are you living in to say something like you just did?

You swallow more shit than Michael Moore's septic tank.

Biden flew his crackhead son an AirForde2 all around the world making secret deal with the CCP, Ukraine and Russia. His former business partner testified he is the BIG GUY and was paid 10% of all these secret deals. Some not so secret. Oh but he never met any of these guys despite photos of Biden with them.

you have the MSM lying for him, deceiving their viewers pretending Biden doesn't have dementia for years while pretending Trump colluded with Russia. I mean WTF?

Is Biden even President anymore? Seriously. He made another embarrassing speech last Monday at the DNC and then went on a vacation at a billionaire's home in CA and now another 7 day vacation. LOL.

In the history of the world, only Trump has lied more than Biden. What a great time we live in.

[Mac4Lyfe]

There are still 81 million morons who voted for Biden.

It will be closer to 85 million in November.

No matter what we call Dems or republicans, Dumb, smart, morons and idiots. THEY ALL KNOW THAT TRUMP IS AN ASSHOLE. You know it too.

[slewfan]

Nope but Trump sure did take advantage of so many morons.

There are still 81 million morons who voted for Biden.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^Who here is taking up for Biden? This election has nothing to do with Biden or Harris. I keep telling you this but you keep trying to convince us that Biden is bad. Yawn… It is all about Trump. I believe the majority of American people will not vote for an asshole ever again. We had 4 years too many of his bullshit.

[DwightShrute]

Trump, figured out like so many of us already knew, that there was a lot of bad information on the major news channels. Although they were/are right about him more than he is willing to admit.

I truly do not understand how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fails to acknowledge how untruthful Trump is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.
I concur. That you are correct about the horrible education system in America, and the producing of a whole generation of mindless individuals has come to fruition.

GOP has a majority in more school districts than the left. They elect the most school boards that set school curriculums. This has not always been the case, only the last 30 or 40 years.

you can say that about most politicians. I mean look at Biden for example. Has anyone lied more than him? I doubt it. The bleach lie, the "very fine people on both sides lie, the "my son never did business with China" lie, the losers and suckers lie, I mean JFC what world are you living in to say something like you just did?

You swallow more shit than Michael Moore's septic tank.

Biden flew his crackhead son an AirForde2 all around the world making secret deal with the CCP, Ukraine and Russia. His former business partner testified he is the BIG GUY and was paid 10% of all these secret deals. Some not so secret. Oh but he never met any of these guys despite photos of Biden with them.

you have the MSM lying for him, deceiving their viewers pretending Biden doesn't have dementia for years while pretending Trump colluded with Russia. I mean WTF?

Is Biden even President anymore? Seriously. He made another embarrassing speech last Monday at the DNC and then went on a vacation at a billionaire's home in CA and now another 7 day vacation. LOL.

[Mac4Lyfe]

So it's the GOP's fault that a whole generation of morons have been harvested in America.?.

Nope but Trump sure did take advantage of so many morons.

[slewfan]

Trump, figured out like so many of us already knew, that there was a lot of bad information on the major news channels. Although they were/are right about him more than he is willing to admit.


I truly do not understand how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fails to acknowledge how untruthful Trump is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.
I concur. That you are correct about the horrible education system in America, and the producing of a whole generation of mindless individuals has come to fruition.

GOP has a majority in more school districts than the left. They elect the most school boards that set school curriculums. This has not always been the case, only the last 30 or 40 years.

So it's the GOP's fault that a whole generation of morons have been harvested in America.?.

[jackpot269]

I concur. What I truly do not understand is how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fail to acknowledge how fake the media is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.

Trump, figured out like so many of us already knew, that there was a lot of bad information on the major news channels. Although they were/are right about him more than he is willing to admit.


I truly do not understand how 10’s of millions of supposedly intelligent people fails to acknowledge how untruthful Trump is. How these people turn a blind eye to the facts. Then turn around and twist the truth even further.

Maybe the horrible education system in America has finally come to fruition in producing a whole generation of mindless individuals.?.
I concur. That you are correct about the horrible education system in America, and the producing of a whole generation of mindless individuals has come to fruition.

GOP has a majority in more school districts than the left. They elect the most school boards that set school curriculums. This has not always been the case, only the last 30 or 40 years.

[DwightShrute]

This is the slime Democrats stole the election for...


Zuck admits Biden admin pressured Facebook to censor COVID content, says it was wrong to suppress The Post’s Hunter laptop coverage

bbbbbut no election rigging happened. None whatsoever!

[slewfan]

This is the slime Democrats stole the election for...


Zuck admits Biden admin pressured Facebook to censor COVID content, says it was wrong to suppress The Post’s Hunter laptop coverage

[ByeShea]

Bill Maher criticizes VP Kamala Harris and the Democrats for being "scared" to do press interviews and talk to anyone outside their bubble:


"The bigger issue is the left and their ability or their desire to engage with anyone who’s not already in the bubble. And they get a big fat D minus on that. You see Kamala. I’m glad she’s doing well. I’m glad we have a real fight now for president. But she doesn’t talk to the press. She would never go near me. When you won't go near the people who will vote for you. I'm going to vote for you...


I speak to the exact voter she needs—the person in the middle, the person who is not ideologically captured by either side—basically, the audience she needs. The MSNBC crowd is already voting for her. People who watch me will decide this election, which will probably be decided in four states by something like 80,000 votes.

I’m just saying that is the Democrats, and that has been their flaw. They should start doing it more. Talking to people who are not already on their side. They come across as scared."

RFK, Jr.:

My uncle and my father both relished debate. They prided themselves on their capacity to go toe to toe with any opponent in a battle of ideas. They would be astonished to learn of a Democratic Party presidential nominee who, like Vice President Harris, has not appeared in a single interview or an unscripted encounter with voters for 35 days. This is profoundly undemocratic. How are people to judge when they don’t know whom they are choosing? And how can this look to the rest of the world?

[slewfan]

Bill Maher criticizes VP Kamala Harris and the Democrats for being "scared" to do press interviews and talk to anyone outside their bubble:


"The bigger issue is the left and their ability or their desire to engage with anyone who’s not already in the bubble. And they get a big fat D minus on that. You see Kamala. I’m glad she’s doing well. I’m glad we have a real fight now for president. But she doesn’t talk to the press. She would never go near me. When you won't go near the people who will vote for you. I'm going to vote for you...


I speak to the exact voter she needs—the person in the middle, the person who is not ideologically captured by either side—basically, the audience she needs. The MSNBC crowd is already voting for her. People who watch me will decide this election, which will probably be decided in four states by something like 80,000 votes.

I’m just saying that is the Democrats, and that has been their flaw. They should start doing it more. Talking to people who are not already on their side. They come across as scared."

Can you imagine people are ignorant or masochistic enough to vote for Harris.?.

[jt315]

Bill Maher criticizes VP Kamala Harris and the Democrats for being "scared" to do press interviews and talk to anyone outside their bubble:


"The bigger issue is the left and their ability or their desire to engage with anyone who’s not already in the bubble. And they get a big fat D minus on that. You see Kamala. I’m glad she’s doing well. I’m glad we have a real fight now for president. But she doesn’t talk to the press. She would never go near me. When you won't go near the people who will vote for you. I'm going to vote for you...


I speak to the exact voter she needs—the person in the middle, the person who is not ideologically captured by either side—basically, the audience she needs. The MSNBC crowd is already voting for her. People who watch me will decide this election, which will probably be decided in four states by something like 80,000 votes.

I’m just saying that is the Democrats, and that has been their flaw. They should start doing it more. Talking to people who are not already on their side. They come across as scared."

[Mac4Lyfe]

^ France just arrested this guy. Patel Durov.

Exiled from Russia in 2014.

Claimed to father over 100 children
Telegram platform used for child sex abuse, pedophilia, terrorist groups, etc.
Now in jail in France.

[19th Hole]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Telegram founder Pavel Durov recently revealed to Tucker Carlson that the FBI approached a Telegram engineer, attempting to secretly hire him to install a backdoor that would allow U.S. intelligence agencies to spy on users.<br><br>The FBI also hired agents to infiltrate &#39;anti-vaxx&#39;… <a href="https://t.co/JAetzKIJzg">pic.twitter.com/JAetzKIJzg</a></p>&mdash; Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1827467035229745463?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slewfan]

The hollow promises of a corrupt regime should ALWAYS be questioned no matter what party they claim to represent. We will not even begin to list all the RINO/DIDO scum that went right along with them. I am beginning to wonder if the Democrat party are ALL seeing the promises through the hollow end of a cocaine straw as only a truly wasted drug addict would see the promise of four more years of this regime.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Someone's on vacation and gets ill for 5 months? Let them stay, help them get well and send them home with the invoice for payment. No payment, no return.

Go back to pre-Obama era border policy. Some of the only decent things in the "Patriot" Act were the border and port security measures.

I have no idea how many thousands (not millions) we allow yearly, but no more taxpayer funded anything for all illegal or legal immigrants. They can make a living like the rest of us or start a GoFundMe page.

But that I’ll person just became illegal and will need to be heard in court, which costs taxpayers thousands of dollars.

Unfortunately, us taxpayers fund everything, including billions in US interest across the globe. It would help to get more people on the tax roles and wealthy people pay their fair share.

[b1slickguy]

I’m not sure there’s a way you can have legal, safe and effective immigration. Too many variables.

Someone visits the US on a vacation. He gets deathly ill and in a hospital for 5 months overextending his stay. Now he’s illegal.

You bring in 100,000 immigrants legally, it’s inevitable some of them may break laws, do dumb shit like the rest of us.

What is the most effective immigration? How many people do you bring in each year? What countries? What talent, skills? That’s anyone’s guess.

Someone's on vacation and gets ill for 5 months? Let them stay, help them get well and send them home with the invoice for payment. No payment, no return.

Go back to pre-Obama era border policy. Some of the only decent things in the "Patriot" Act were the border and port security measures.

I have no idea how many thousands (not millions) we allow yearly, but no more taxpayer funded anything for all illegal or legal immigrants. They can make a living like the rest of us or start a GoFundMe page.

[hanco21]

I’m not sure there’s a way you can have legal, safe and effective immigration. Too many variables.

Someone visits the US on a vacation. He gets deathly ill and in a hospital for 5 months overextending his stay. Now he’s illegal.

You bring in 100,000 immigrants legally, it’s inevitable some of them may break laws, do dumb shit like the rest of us.

What is the most effective immigration? How many people do you bring in each year? What countries? What talent, skills? That’s anyone’s guess.

kind of like the death tally when it came to Covid. Pump it up baby.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I prefer legal, safe and effective immigration. Kind of like how the covid vaccines were supposed to be.

I’m not sure there’s a way you can have legal, safe and effective immigration. Too many variables.

Someone visits the US on a vacation. He gets deathly ill and in a hospital for 5 months overextending his stay. Now he’s illegal.

You bring in 100,000 immigrants legally, it’s inevitable some of them may break laws, do dumb shit like the rest of us.

What is the most effective immigration? How many people do you bring in each year? What countries? What talent, skills? That’s anyone’s guess.

[b1slickguy]

[b1slickguy]

^ Slick - so how do you feel?

Do you know that we have enough land in the US, that every man, woman and child on the ENTIRE planet could have almost half an acre. Throw in Canada or Mexico and there’s enough room in North America for everyone in the world.

I prefer legal, safe and effective immigration. Kind of like how the covid vaccines were supposed to be.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Although I do think the USA has benefitted from mass immigration in years past. If it can't be managed then either can the inevitable problems from too many heading to the same locations.

Govt needs to know numbers to manage services and infrastructure properly.

A system to both assist the people coming over the Southern border and make sure those people also benefit America would be better than just trying to lock them all out though.

An economic zone where cheap manufacturing to rival China can be legally established might be one way.

I totally agree…
It’s a difficult, complex problem. Both parties are responsible and neither should weaponize it. They should come up with solutions. Just simply closing our borders totally, is one of the worst ideas. Arresting small children and separating families is another bad idea that costs us much more. This is a humanitarian issue as well. Good people will not stand by and watch young people be neglected, no matter what country they come from. I think we need to invest more in Mexico and South America. Make it so great down there, that more people won’t want to stay here. But maybe it’s all a part of a higher plan. Destroy countries like Haiti, etc., so that we keep getting the cheap labor. We’re not told the real story.

[Optional]

We are the world leader in EVERYTHING because we take in immigrants. Illegal and legal immigrants is why we’re the best. The big secret both parties won’t tell you is that we need illegal immigrants too. Shhh, don’t tell anyone that but without illegals, a loaf of bread would cost $10 bucks. Trump knows that but he won’t say it because he wants votes. O

Although I do think the USA has benefitted from mass immigration in years past. If it can't be managed then either can the inevitable problems from too many heading to the same locations.

Govt needs to know numbers to manage services and infrastructure properly.

A system to both assist the people coming over the Southern border and make sure those people also benefit America would be better than just trying to lock them all out though.

An economic zone where cheap manufacturing to rival China can be legally established might be one way.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^ Slick - so how do you feel?

Do you know that we have enough land in the US, that every man, woman and child on the ENTIRE planet could have almost half an acre. Throw in Canada or Mexico and there’s enough room in North America for everyone in the world.

[b1slickguy]

[slewfan]

We are now the world leader in terrorists attacks. America has no leader today and no one in the world respects the country.


Houthis burn Greek oil tanker in Red Sea, mock US by posting video of blaze

[Mac4Lyfe]

the US takes in 1.2 million immigrants legally every year. No other country comes close. These people immigrated within the laws of the country made by civil servants elected by THE PEOPLE who live .

We are the world leader in EVERYTHING because we take in immigrants. Illegal and legal immigrants is why we’re the best. The big secret both parties won’t tell you is that we need illegal immigrants too. Shhh, don’t tell anyone that but without illegals, a loaf of bread would cost $10 bucks. Trump knows that but he won’t say it because he wants votes. O

[Mac4Lyfe]

Immigration is very complex. It is not so cut and dry Trump has tried to make it. Trump is known to be an isolationist. That is not the way to remain the world’s power. We need talent. We need immigrants. We need millions of new workers each year. Where do you think they come from? You have to manage it. Totally shutting off the talent will never work. Even Trump knows that. Here’s a good read on the subject and why criminalizing immigrants is not very effective. It just ends up costing us more money.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/immigration-prosecutions

[DwightShrute]

I just don’t think the president can do much without support of congress. The people ultimately rule. The far left and right have the biggest mouths but I believe the majority of people are in the middle.I am active in my community, city and state. The minute things go off the rails. People get too stupid, I’ll go somewhere else. I love Houston. It’s the most diverse city in the world. People get along here. We don’t have dumb political fights. Most folks are reasonable. We support each other and are eager to help those not as fortunate. It’s a very giving city. We give to immigrants and don’t treat them like criminals. I wish the majority of the US was more like Houston.

Listen to Neil Diamonds, “Coming to America”. It’s all about giving opportunities to immigrants. I believe and know this country will only continue to be great when we assimilate immigrants into this country.

I guess it comes down to your definition of 'reasonable'. Mine and yours won't be identical. I think we can both agree. Being an immigrant myself, I am not anti immigrant. I am all for legal immigration. If you break the law, aren't you a criminal? Crminal: a person who has committed a crime. If you enter another country illegally, then aren't you already breaking the law and thus a criminal? Of course, there are different levels of crime such. Not wearing your seatbelt and murder. Civil and criminal. Unlawful entry is a felony from what I read.

the US takes in 1.2 million immigrants legally every year. No other country comes close. These people immigrated within the laws of the country made by civil servants elected by THE PEOPLE who live there. Reasonable people have sympathy for the millions of people who have made the journey to the southern border in order to enter another country illegally, they are breaking the law. If is NOT Americas responsibility to take in everyone that wants to come to the US.

The elected civil servant's number one priority should always be its citizens. Their country first above all else.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I don't necessarily agree totally with the first 4 sentences. They do but mostly for the wrong reasons. But I definitely can relate with the bold part

I just don’t think the president can do much without support of congress. The people ultimately rule. The far left and right have the biggest mouths but I believe the majority of people are in the middle.I am active in my community, city and state. The minute things go off the rails. People get too stupid, I’ll go somewhere else. I love Houston. It’s the most diverse city in the world. People get along here. We don’t have dumb political fights. Most folks are reasonable. We support each other and are eager to help those not as fortunate. It’s a very giving city. We give to immigrants and don’t treat them like criminals. I wish the majority of the US was more like Houston.


Listen to Neil Diamonds, “Coming to America”. It’s all about giving opportunities to immigrants. I believe and know this country will only continue to be great when we assimilate immigrants into this country.

[DwightShrute]

One thing I’ve learned through decades of presidents. NONE of them, nor congress will have an effect on my wallet. First off, the president does not have much power. 2nd, neither does congress. I am the controller of my domain. I don’t listen to the fears both parties peddle. I plan for the worst but hope for the best. If Texas went to shit, I have several states I could move to tomorrow. If the US goes to shit, I have several countries I could move to TOMORROW. I’m tired of the 2 party system. I have been for 2 decades now. I talk politics here in this forum as entertainment. I really don’t care what side wins. I will adjust.

I don't necessarily agree totally with the first 4 sentences. They do but mostly for the wrong reasons. But I definitely can relate with the bold part

[Mac4Lyfe]

Maybe you are correct about Rep's wanting to get rid of Trump a few years ago. But not today. Look what your Gal has planned for you. She needs the money for her 'nonexistent border crisis', 'nonexistent inflation', 'nonexistent green deals' and her 'nonexistent support of wars' taking place around the world. Get that middle class, take all their 'will' and 'hope' and spread it out where it will do the least amount of good.


ECONOMICS’

Experts react to VP Harris’ ‘devastating’ plan to tax unrealized capital gains

One thing I’ve learned through decades of presidents. NONE of them, nor congress will have an effect on my wallet. First off, the president does not have much power. 2nd, neither does congress. I am the controller of my domain. I don’t listen to the fears both parties peddle. I plan for the worst but hope for the best. If Texas went to shit, I have several states I could move to tomorrow. If the US goes to shit, I have several countries I could move to TOMORROW. I’m tired of the 2 party system. I have been for 2 decades now. I talk politics here in this forum as entertainment. I really don’t care what side wins. I will adjust.

[slewfan]

Sanford and son was the number 1 tv show for several years. WTH does that have to do with being sued almost a billion dollars for pushing lies.

I have no idea who spreads the most lies. I normally don’t watch the national news. I watch stocks, sports and an occasional movie. I’ll throw Fox and CNN up every once in a while like during debates or big national news but most of the time they’re both on mute.

I can tel you for me the Republican Party has sold their souls with the devil that is Donald Trump. I think the Trump years will eventually be seen as the most divisive in this country. A lot of republicans inwardly cannot wait to be rid of Trump. They have had to bite their tongues for far too long. Relief is on the way.

Maybe you are correct about Rep's wanting to get rid of Trump a few years ago. But not today. Look what your Gal has planned for you. She needs the money for her 'nonexistent border crisis', 'nonexistent inflation', 'nonexistent green deals' and her 'nonexistent support of wars' taking place around the world. Get that middle class, take all their 'will' and 'hope' and spread it out where it will do the least amount of good.


‘VOODOO ECONOMICS’

Experts react to VP Harris’ ‘devastating’ plan to tax unrealized capital gains