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[DwightShrute]

Huh? I believe in law. I respect the laws of every country. When in Rome.

I told you before that Americans can go live in many countries very easily. Many actually leave the US and never come back. Many people move into the US. Why are you so hung up on people moving around? Aren’t you doing the same? Or are you pissed that you can’t move to the US if you can’t?

For this topic, the Haitians in Springfield are there LEGALLY. Your point?

I am not hung up on that lol. Yes, I have lived in several countries in the last 20 years and am about to live somewhere else soon. Countries have laws is the point. Americans can't go to Cuba for example. Countries have laws. When in Rome.

You say you respect law of every country. Forget the Utopia of Springfield for a moment, tens of millions breaking the laws by coming into the US illegally is not ok or is ok?

[Mac4Lyfe]

.Do you believe anyone from anywhere can just go and live in any country anywhere they choose?

Huh? I believe in law. I respect the laws of every country. When in Rome.

I told you before that Americans can go live in many countries very easily. Many actually leave the US and never come back. Many people move into the US. Why are you so hung up on people moving around? Aren’t you doing the same? Or are you pissed that you can’t move to the US if you can’t?

For this topic, the Haitians in Springfield are there LEGALLY. Your point?

[Mac4Lyfe]

I am not sure that is true.2 days ago — Residents tell NewsNation they are additionally concerned about crime in a town that's already seen a spike in violent offenses. FBI data shows
With a crime rate of 37 per one thousand residents, Springfield has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities.
Do you believe anyone from anywhere can just go and live in any country anywhere they choose?

Ohio has some of the highest numbers of crime. Cleveland was the murder capital of the world when I grew up there. Why? No jobs. People flocked out of Ohio as steel and manufacturing jobs left. Crime grew. Now Springfield is growing with jobs and money. Haitians are working there. Do you really think they are committing crimes with good jobs? Come on man, think. It’s the drug infested whites and blacks in that area that live by hook and crook. Those are the ones that gave up on life. Those are the ones that are useless and aren’t worth hiring. The shame is Trump is blaming the wrong people. Just ask anyone who actually lives in these cities. It’s our own kids that aren’t worth a shit. Sad.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I'm not believing this one. Link?

Simple google search will give you your answer. The metro area of Houston is HUGE. It will take you hours to go around beltway 8. We’re building another beltway which will take you over a day. Land mass, this city is ridiculously large and keeps expanding out every day. Nowhere to go but out.

https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/cities/23014/houston/population#:~:text=The%20metro%20area%20population%20of%20Houston%20in%202022%20was%206%2C603%2C000,a%201.88%25%20increase%20from%202020.

[DwightShrute]

Dwight - you said you are a critical thinker.

Did you look at the crime rate 10 years ago compared to today for Springfield? It’s gone down. Now that area has been one of the poorest in the country for 4 decades now. It is one of the highest crime places to begin with. I bet if you did your research you would find that most crimes are white and black people there, not Haitians. Which is the main point.

I am not sure that is true.

2 days ago — Residents tell NewsNation they are additionally concerned about crime in a town that's already seen a spike in violent offenses. FBI data shows

With a crime rate of 37 per one thousand residents, Springfield has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities.


Do you believe anyone from anywhere can just go and live in any country anywhere they choose?

[b1slickguy]

Metro Houston is 6.8 million people and growing every day. 10,000 new people a month move here. Millions of Mexicans here. Do I worry for my safety from them. Nope. It’s mainly white and black men who were born and bred here that do all the crimes. Immigrants usually don’t want no trouble and obey our laws.

I'm not believing this one. Link?

[Mac4Lyfe]

you grow your country from within. You can also grow it with legal immigration.
Also, the USA takes in 1.2 million legal immigrants every single year. No other country comes close. You can allow just anyone to come in. You wouldn't allow just anyone to enter your house. You wouldn't let anyone just walk into the Stadium and sit at the 50-yard line. There are many laws and rules a country and a civilized society has which make it a great place to live. If you allow just anyone to do anything they want who aren't even from here (the country), then you have chaos and lawlessness or whatever you want to call it. But it sure as hell isn't a country anymore.

Well the Haitians in Springfield are there LEGALLY, so what the heck are you talking about?

[Mac4Lyfe]

you grow your country from within. You can also grow it with legal immigration.

Also, the USA takes in 1.2 million legal immigrants every single year. No other country comes close. You can allow just anyone to come in. You wouldn't allow just anyone to enter your house. You wouldn't let anyone just walk into the Stadium and sit at the 50-yard line. There are many laws and rules a country and a civilized society has which make it a great place to live. If you allow just anyone to do anything they want who aren't even from here (the country), then you have chaos and lawlessness or whatever you want to call it. But it sure as hell isn't a country anymore.

If the US grew its country from within, there would be 300 million American Indians.

[Mac4Lyfe]

ok so not all 20,000 were flown in. You took it literally which was my fault. Sorry.
Springfield, Ohio: Safer than 2% of U.S. cities.
With a crime rate of 58 per one thousand residents, Springfield has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 17. Within Ohio, more than 99% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Springfield. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Springfield to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/springfield/crime

sorry again.

Dwight - you said you are a critical thinker.

Did you look at the crime rate 10 years ago compared to today for Springfield? It’s gone down. Now that area has been one of the poorest in the country for 4 decades now. It is one of the highest crime places to begin with. I bet if you did your research you would find that most crimes are white and black people there, not Haitians. Which is the main point.

[DwightShrute]

Houston is the most diverse city in the world. It is also the fastest growing as a result. That’s how America got to be number 1. Growth, expansion. China and India will outpace us IF WE DO NOT GROW. That’s why we need immigrants. Anything less is stupid. Countries that close their borders are not world leaders. Republicans know this. They’re playing you.

you grow your country from within. You can also grow it with legal immigration.

Also, the USA takes in 1.2 million legal immigrants every single year. No other country comes close. You can allow just anyone to come in. You wouldn't allow just anyone to enter your house. You wouldn't let anyone just walk into the Stadium and sit at the 50-yard line. There are many laws and rules a country and a civilized society has which make it a great place to live. If you allow just anyone to do anything they want who aren't even from here (the country), then you have chaos and lawlessness or whatever you want to call it. But it sure as hell isn't a country anymore.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Metro Houston is 6.8 million people and growing every day. 10,000 new people a month move here. Millions of Mexicans here. Do I worry for my safety from them. Nope. It’s mainly white and black men who were born and bred here that do all the crimes. Immigrants usually don’t want no trouble and obey our laws.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Houston is an enormous city located in the state of Texas. With a population of 2,302,878 people and 853 associated neighborhoods, Houston is the largest community in Texas.

Houston is an extremely ethnically-diverse city. The people who call Houston home describe themselves as belonging to a variety of racial and ethnic groups. People of Hispanic or Latino origin are the most prevalent group in Houston, accounting for 44.83% of the city’s residents (people of Hispanic or Latino origin can be of any race). The greatest number of Houston residents report their race to be White, followed by Black or African-American. Important ancestries of people in Houston include German, English, Irish, Italian, and French.

I have been to Houston many times. I lived in Costa Rica for 17 years, I really liked the people. I like Houston. Great Vietnamese food I thought.

It has a high crime rate as well unfortunately. But it’s a big city so it’s not as surprising.

Houston is the most diverse city in the world. It is also the fastest growing as a result. That’s how America got to be number 1. Growth, expansion. China and India will outpace us IF WE DO NOT GROW. That’s why we need immigrants. Anything less is stupid. Countries that close their borders are not world leaders. Republicans know this. They’re playing you.

[Mac4Lyfe]

~~~What's your point?
Fantastic businessman and job creator.

He just fired thousands of people. His workers say the workplace is awful. They work long hours, safety issues etc. Feel free to invest in his businesses, since you seem to be a fan. Hard pass for me.

[DwightShrute]

Houston has grown from 2.2 million to 6.8 million in the last 10 years. It has basically tripled. Springfield could only hope it could see as much growth as Houston. San Antonio, Austin, Dallas have all blown up. Why? Jobs. People bring jobs and money. They work and pay taxes. Some of you look at immigrants as threats. Smart business people see it as opportunity. Ohios population has been hemorrhaging for decades. They need an influx of people.

Houston is an enormous city located in the state of Texas. With a population of 2,302,878 people and 853 associated neighborhoods, Houston is the largest community in Texas.

Houston is an extremely ethnically-diverse city. The people who call Houston home describe themselves as belonging to a variety of racial and ethnic groups. People of Hispanic or Latino origin are the most prevalent group in Houston, accounting for 44.83% of the city’s residents (people of Hispanic or Latino origin can be of any race). The greatest number of Houston residents report their race to be White, followed by Black or African-American. Important ancestries of people in Houston include German, English, Irish, Italian, and French.

I have been to Houston many times. I lived in Costa Rica for 17 years, I really liked the people. I like Houston. Great Vietnamese food I thought.

It has a high crime rate as well unfortunately. But its a big city so its not as surprising.

[khicks26]

ok so not all 20,000 were flown in. You took it literally which was my fault. Sorry.

Springfield, Ohio: Safer than 2% of U.S. cities.


With a crime rate of 58 per one thousand residents, Springfield has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 17. Within Ohio, more than 99% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Springfield. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Springfield to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/springfield/crime

sorry again.

Springfield.

[khicks26]

Nice rebuttal to the lies you spread Side Show Don.

[DwightShrute]

They did not fly in 20,000 people. Haitians have been moving into that city the past 5 years. What is the results? More businesses, more companies and more money. The city is thriving right now. That’s what happened. More jobs which has revitalized their once dead economy. There has not been a rise in crime. The Haitians have been upstanding citizens but here comes JD Vance trying to politicize and spread hate. It’s despicable.

ok so not all 20,000 were flown in. You took it literally which was my fault. Sorry.

Springfield, Ohio: Safer than 2% of U.S. cities.


With a crime rate of 58 per one thousand residents, Springfield has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 17. Within Ohio, more than 99% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Springfield. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Springfield to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/oh/springfield/crime

sorry again.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Houston has grown from 2.2 million to 6.8 million in the last 10 years. It has basically tripled. Springfield could only hope it could see as much growth as Houston. San Antonio, Austin, Dallas have all blown up. Why? Jobs. People bring jobs and money. They work and pay taxes. Some of you look at immigrants as threats. Smart business people see it as opportunity. Ohios population has been hemorrhaging for decades. They need an influx of people.

[19th Hole]

Musk has taken billions in handouts form the federal government and States.

However, over the years, Musk's companies — Tesla Motors, SpaceX, and SolarCity — have received billions of dollars from government loans, contracts, tax credits, and subsidies. According to a Los Angeles Times investigation, Musk's companies had received an estimated $4.9 billion in government support by 2015, and they've gotten more since.
4.9 billion before 2015. Not counting what he has gotten since then.

Elon Musk Says He's Anti-Subsidy, but Has Gotten Billions of Dollars - Business Insider

~~~

What's your point?
Fantastic businessman and job creator.

[Mac4Lyfe]

they flew in about 20,000 into a city of about 60,000.
What do you think would happen if they brought in 1.6 million people to Houston this year?
It’s not about Haitians necessarily.

They did not fly in 20,000 people. Haitians have been moving into that city the past 5 years. What is the results? More businesses, more companies and more money. The city is thriving right now. That’s what happened. More jobs which has revitalized their once dead economy. There has not been a rise in crime. The Haitians have been upstanding citizens but here comes JD Vance trying to politicize and spread hate. It’s despicable.

[DwightShrute]

Insert stupid twitter shit here!

[khicks26]

Insert stupid twitter shit here!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Government offices received bomb threats yesterday. Elementary schools had to be evacuated today. All because of Donald Trump and JD. Vance. When is this shit going to stop.

[khicks26]

DwightShrute
Common sense of a fuking
toothpick.

[khicks26]

you are incapable of rational thought so I am not surprised at your post.


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Rational thought? LMAO

You do know that the gangs taking over apartments was BS put out by the slumlord that owns the building. Of course you don't.

Just like the cat eating shit was made up by some pissed off Ohio Nazi because Haitians were moving in. More BS you believe because you are trapped in your Right Wing bubble. Thats why you look like a stupid racist asshole all the time.

Carry on Clown.

[DwightShrute]

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[DwightShrute]

lmao you are as deranged and triggered as Trump is. what a nut bag.

you are incapable of rational thought so I am not surprised at your post.


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[DwightShrute]

We have much more Haitians in Houston along with millions of Mexicans, Indians, Africans, Europeans, Asians, etc., in our backyards. We don’t shit on them, we live with them and most are great contributors to society. They work, pay rent, pay taxes and very rarely cause trouble. Entitled Americans born and raised here are the WORST. Those are the people you have to look out for. A lot of drugged out, mentally challenged US citizens that were spoiled rotten by their parents. I’d bet you those Haitians are better citizens than those meth heads.

they flew in about 20,000 into a city of about 60,000.

What do you think would happen if they brought in 1.6 million people to Houston this year?

Its not about Haitians necessarily.

[jt315]

Mayor Rob Rue of Springfield says it is a beautiful place. There is no chaos, there is no hate. There's new jobs and new opportunity. There's no troops being sent to Springfield. No government troops. It's all a lie spread by JD Vance only for political gain. What a dick.

Dewine is sending state troopers to Springfield to address the mess . Feel free to post where JD said govt troops are being sent .

[khicks26]

DeSantis flew 50 illegals to Martha's Vineyard remember. 50! The place that preaches loudly about diversity, bring in all immigrants there are no borders, DEI, LGBBQ+ and all that stuff. But 50 come and OMFG how dare they come to our sanctuary? They fed them fruit loops one day before the Nation Guard was called in to remove them. 50 illegal aliens. 50! Meanwhile, 20,000 to Springfield? Oh right, Springfield has 30 million people. What's an sold out area's worth of people gonna do. No one will even notice.

The Left are fukking dicks.

So long as its not in my back yard. Out of sight out of mind. Someone else's problem. Until in happens to them. Until a daughter gets murdered or their apartment building gets taken over by gangs that were in Venezuela a couple months ago. Who cares who they are. It's the right thing to do. Open border man! What could possibly go wrong? Why not fly 20,000 Haitians to Malibu or Rodeo Drive? But a few thousand tents and everyone's happy! Maybe Oprah can take in a few. She's got tons of empty rooms.

lmao you are as deranged and triggered as Trump is. what a nut bag.

[Mac4Lyfe]

So long as it’not in my back yard. Out of sight out of mind. Someone else's problem. Until in happens to them. Until a daughter gets murdered or their apartment building gets taken over by gangs that were in Venezuela a couple months ago. Who cares who they are. It's the right thing to do. Open border man! What could possibly go wrong? Why not fly 20,000 Haitians to Malibu or Rodeo Drive? But a few thousand tents and everyone's happy! Maybe Oprah can take in a few. She's got tons of empty rooms.

We have much more Haitians in Houston along with millions of Mexicans, Indians, Africans, Europeans, Asians, etc., in our backyards. We don’t shit on them, we live with them and most are great contributors to society. They work, pay rent, pay taxes and very rarely cause trouble. Entitled Americans born and raised here are the WORST. Those are the people you have to look out for. A lot of drugged out, mentally challenged US citizens that were spoiled rotten by their parents. I’d bet you those Haitians are better citizens than those meth heads.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Why are you being so defensive about Springfield?

Oh, wait, is it because Trump brought up the subject as part of a larger discussion on the border and illegal immigration (possibly his strongest issue & Kamala's weakest) in that debate where he got his ass kicked? ''

It's been a leading topic here, there, and everywhere since Tuesday - yet almost nobody knew about Springfield, OH's woes until Trump gave it the oxygen that ABC, et al, would not. The whole winning topic (for Trump) crystalized into a single absurd example that has people talking.

Who won the debate again?

I’m defending the lunacy that is Trump with his hate rhetoric. It’s his only game plan, get poor, uneducated people to hate on Haitians. The mayor said the city has been about togetherness and prosperity but Trump has claimed it’s chaos and hate which is a lie. He doubled down promoting a young kids death to get people mad about Haitians. Now those people are getting death threats from crazy ass people listening to this hate monger. He is a despicable human being who will have a place reserved in hell.

[Optional]

Anywhere but here!

We call them Nimbies

Not In My Backyard

[mjsuax13]

DeSantis flew 50 illegals to Martha's Vineyard remember. 50! The place that preaches loudly about diversity, bring in all immigrants there are no borders, DEI, LGBBQ+ and all that stuff. But 50 come and OMFG how dare they come to our sanctuary? They fed them fruit loops one day before the Nation Guard was called in to remove them. 50 illegal aliens. 50! Meanwhile, 20,000 to Springfield? Oh right, Springfield has 30 million people. What's an sold out area's worth of people gonna do. No one will even notice.

The Left are fukking dicks.

Anywhere but here!

[DwightShrute]

The Lefties have selective memories. TDS has wiped out much of their cognitive thought processes.

So long as its not in my back yard. Out of sight out of mind. Someone else's problem. Until in happens to them. Until a daughter gets murdered or their apartment building gets taken over by gangs that were in Venezuela a couple months ago. Who cares who they are. It's the right thing to do. Open border man! What could possibly go wrong? Why not fly 20,000 Haitians to Malibu or Rodeo Drive? But a few thousand tents and everyone's happy! Maybe Oprah can take in a few. She's got tons of empty rooms.