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[b1slickguy]

[DwightShrute]

Ok Dwight. I don’t want to ruffle everyone’s feathers by asking a question that truly only has one answer.
I’ll drop it, continue to sift through all the lies and BS that are flying all over the place …ok, wait for it… “from both parties” , and try to make up my mind as to what seems to be, the lesser of two evils.
GL.

I was simply trying to help. Its all good. No need to thank me.

[str]

Ok Dwight. I don’t want to ruffle everyone’s feathers by asking a question that truly only has one answer.
I’ll drop it, continue to sift through all the lies and BS that are flying all over the place …ok, wait for it… “from both parties” , and try to make up my mind as to what seems to be, the lesser of two evils.
GL.

[DwightShrute]

TDS is a pejorative term usually for criticism or negative reactions to Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational, and have little regard towards Trump's actual policy positions, or actions undertaken by his administration. The term has mainly been used by Trump supporters to discredit criticism of his actions, as a way of reframing the discussion by suggesting that his opponents are incapable of accurately perceiving the world.

This is the actual meaning of TDS. Anyone else telling you differently... 1. Didn't get the joke / 2. Suffers from TDS
Suffering from TDS, the democrat was not able to see past her blind hatred of Trump in order to research topics herself. Instead spent years festering while being fed lies by the majority of media outlets about Russian Collusion as her Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) cripples her mental state


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TDS, It's a disease that affects some democrats which drives them insane whenever they hear the word "Donald" or "Trump". Disliking Donald Trump for a valid reason is not TDS but going insane whenever hearing his name mentioned is.

Another symptom is trying to turn the word around to target Trump supporters.
1. Billy: Hey, what's your favorite cartoon character?
Joe: My favorite cartoon character is Donald Du
Billy: OMG DONALD TRUMP IS SUCH A RACIST HE WANTS TO BUILD A WALL TO KEEP OUT THE MEXICANS AND HE HATES BLACK PEOPLE AND MUSLIMS

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One of the main symptoms of the dreaded TDS disease. The person becomes debilitated in thought and reasoning. For example, voting for a leader (president) who is completely incapable of leadership at any level.

Lolol.
If that’s pointed at me, I have asked a very easy question to respond to. No response from any Trump supporters. Only that I must be ill for asking it and Dwight can’t read his mind.

If that was not pointed at me, please feel free to respond.

I won’t hold my breath though. I think we all know the answer and it’s probably best if it gets buried in here so it can go away and not be discussed.

[19th Hole]

Chinese Spy Case Sheds Light on State-Level Security Woes, Intelligence Experts Warn

The latest prosecution could be ’the tip of the iceberg' of Beijing’s influence campaign, experts said, calling for more vigilance and resources.





Linda Sun (R), a former aide to New York Gov. Kathy Hochul, and her husband, Chris Hu, exits the federal court in Brooklyn, New York City on Sept. 3, 2024.



The arrest of New York Gov. Kathy Hochul’s former aide Linda Sun this week has shown the vulnerability of state governments in navigating Chinese interference attempts while Beijing is actively targeting them, top intelligence experts say.

Sun worked at the New York State (NYS) government for more than ten years during Gov. Andrew Cuomo and Hochul’s tenures, including as Hochul’s deputy chief of staff. She was arrested and charged on Sept. 3 with violating and conspiring to violate the Foreign Agents
Registration Act, **** fraud, alien smuggling, and money laundering conspiracy. Her husband Chris Hu was also arrested and charged with separate offenses.



Sun, a naturalized U.S. citizen who immigrated from China when she was five, was accused of doing the bidding of four Chinese Consulate officials and two Chinese Communist Party (CCP) agents—including blocking communications between the NYS government and representatives of Taiwan, screening the governors’ messages to keep out references of Taiwan’s official name and human rights atrocities against the Uyghur people, smuggling a Chinese consulate official into a private NYS government conference call, and providing unauthorized invitation letters for Chinese provincial delegates to fraudulently obtain U.S. visas—for monetary and other benefits worth millions of dollars, mostly via her husband’s business.

The couple has pleaded not guilty to the charges, and Sun’s defense lawyer Jarrod Schaeffer said his client was “understandably upset that these charges have been brought.”

Nonetheless, the case has exposed a glaring security problem, according to two intelligence experts who both held a number of senior national security roles in government.

State governments have been “rather naive” about foreign agents, says Dennis Wilder, senior fellow at Georgetown University’s U.S.-China Dialogue on Global Issues.

“The difficulty with state-level security is this: They don’t have the ability to vet in the kind of detailed way that the U.S. national government does. They don’t have those kinds of resources. They don’t have people to do that kind of in-depth research, and frankly, at the state level, they don’t think necessarily that somebody is going to try to plant an agent within their government,” Wilder said, adding that the emerging cases are making state governments more attentive and more likely to seek assistance from the FBI and others.


Nicholas Eftimiades, senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, also said he believes Sun’s case is “really important” because of this reason, and he called for a “whole-of-nation approach” in responding to the CCP’s activities rather than relying on the embattled FBI.


According to Eftimiades, the vetting of local officials could be as little as a one-off check of a person’s arrest record, while those who have a security clearance in the federal government get vetted every few years.
“In the meantime, your finances are monitored, your social media is monitored, if you get arrested in the country anywhere, that’s flagged. ... There’s nothing equivalent at the state or city levels, and they vary so much,” he said.

[slewfan]

its truly amazing isn't it? So many were going to vote for another term of dementia Joe before he pulled out and now many of those same people are apparently gonna votes for the DEI VP simple because she has a vagina and isn't White. The bar has never been lower. They are addicted to incompetence. Its weird.

I have noticed not one of the TDS sufferers have said one word about the true state of Bidens dimentia. They would vote for him tomorrow if he ran. So it is apparent that someone with even less abilities to lead than Joe would be their representative.

I think the Democrat voters themselves are incapable of rational thought. They’ve become a cult disassociated with the truth. They lie to themselves and then try and project themselves in a public forum. They back up their lies with more lies. The worse part is they believe they are sending a message. Which makes them feel good about themselves by trying to antagonize anyone who does not agree with their false narratives.

[DwightShrute]

One of the main symptoms of the dreaded TDS disease. The person becomes debilitated in thought and reasoning. For example, voting for a leader (president) who is completely incapable of leadership at any level.

its truly amazing isn't it? So many were going to vote for another term of dementia Joe before he pulled out and now many of those same people are apparently gonna votes for the DEI VP simple because she has a vagina and isn't White. The bar has never been lower. They are addicted to incompetence. Its weird.

[slewfan]

One of the main symptoms of the dreaded TDS disease. The person becomes debilitated in thought and reasoning. For example, voting for a leader (president) who is completely incapable of leadership at any level.

[jackpot269]

Regan in '81 pushed "it" from Their sponsors and all conservative party's up to him did Their groundwork "projects"

and trump may very well have "no idea what it is" because he cares not too and prefers to play dumb for dummies.

One theory or interpretation.

If Trump just plays dumb, he missed his calling should have been an actor. He will be whatever, he thinks will get him votes.

[BOA12]

I appreciate the answers but nobody has answered the only question I have on this subject.

Q. How can he have "no idea what it is" if he had project 2017 in 2016 when he became president if this has been going on since 1981?

Any help is appreciated.Thanks.

Regan in '81 pushed "it" from Their sponsors and all conservative party's up to him did Their groundwork "projects"

and trump may very well have "no idea what it is" because he cares not too and prefers to play dumb for dummies.

One theory or interpretation.

[str]

I have a question for anyone.

The first sentence he said was "it was put together by an extremely conservative group".

The 2nd sentence he said was "I have no idea what it is".

Q. How can he have "no idea what it is" if he had project 2017 in 2016 when he became president if this has been going on since 1981?

Anyone? Please feel free.

And the theme here is finding the TRUTH.

Thanks in advance.

I appreciate the answers but nobody has answered the only question I have on this subject.

Q. How can he have "no idea what it is" if he had project 2017 in 2016 when he became president if this has been going on since 1981?

Any help is appreciated.Thanks.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I have a question for anyone.

The first sentence he said was "it was put together by an extremely conservative group".

The 2nd sentence he said was "I have no idea what it is".

Q. How can he have "no idea what it is" if he had project 2017 in 2016 when he became president if this has been going on since 1981?

Anyone? Please feel free.

And the theme here is finding the TRUTH.

Thanks in advance.

Trump constantly lies. He’ll say one thing and do something else. Never trust a guy that feeds you shit and tells you it’s steak. Trump is the master of the con. He wrote a book on it.

Those 2 sentences show he’s lying. He knows who put the project together but he doesn’t know what it’s about. If he doesn’t know what it’s about THEN HOW THE HELL CAN HE SAY HE DISAGREES WITH IT?

[DwightShrute]

I have a question for anyone.

The first sentence he said was "it was put together by an extremely conservative group".

The 2nd sentence he said was "I have no idea what it is".

Q. How can he have "no idea what it is" if he had project 2017 in 2016 when he became president if this has been going on since 1981?/
Anyone? Please feel free.

And the theme here is finding the TRUTH.

Thanks in advance.

I can't read his mind. On Trump's website he has his agenda 47 laid out. This project25 thing is just a desperate attempt by the Left. It was released 2 years ago. No one cared (pretended to care) until it was obvious Biden was gonna get crushed in November. So they dusted off this conservative paper and tried to attribute it to Trump. The are doing that again with Russia. Surely you see they are just throwing shit at the wall hoping something will stick. That's the truth.

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He says it all the time.

Why should he hold a press conference every time the fake news media falsely accuses him of something? He'd be holding press conferences 24/7.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump denounces Project 2025<br>— I have no idea what it is<br>— it’s a group of extremely conservative people who wrote up a “wish list”, many of which I disagree with entirely.<br><br>This should be posted anywhere you see people trying to connect him to it.<a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/kJUU3Jp6Tj">https://t.co/kJUU3Jp6Tj</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/40bjIi2yR5">pic.twitter.com/40bjIi2yR5</a></p>&mdash; MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1812876381321113654?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 15, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I have a question for anyone.

The first sentence he said was "it was put together by an extremely conservative group".

The 2nd sentence he said was "I have no idea what it is".

Q. How can he have "no idea what it is" if he had project 2017 in 2016 when he became president if this has been going on since 1981?

Anyone? Please feel free.

And the theme here is finding the TRUTH.

Thanks in advance.

[str]

He says it all the time.

Why should he hold a press conference every time the fake news media falsely accuses him of something? He'd be holding press conferences 24/7.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump denounces Project 2025<br>— I have no idea what it is<br>— it’s a group of extremely conservative people who wrote up a “wish list”, many of which I disagree with entirely.<br><br>This should be posted anywhere you see people trying to connect him to it.<a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/kJUU3Jp6Tj">https://t.co/kJUU3Jp6Tj</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/40bjIi2yR5">pic.twitter.com/40bjIi2yR5</a></p>&mdash; MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1812876381321113654?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 15, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I listened to that interview.

No good. I do not need dancing around and abortion.

Speak directly to it as a whole. Or go item by item. But don't politic me is what I would say if I was the reporter.

Denounce it. The entirety of it. Or, own whatever portion you choose but tell me.

He did no such thing. Like most, he danced and ended up saying what he wanted to say, not what I wanted to hear which is simply the truth.

And come on man. He has no idea what it is? Please.

[DwightShrute]

If it is out of control, which all the back and forth lies are, why not put it to bed with a news conference that speaks only to that? Not a ton of BS. Just that ! End it.

I don't care how many times someone says he has said it.

Press Conference. Say it!

Same with Harris. Immigration.

Press conference. Say it !

That is what I want to see. And I continue to wait.

He says it all the time.

Why should he hold a press conference every time the fake news media falsely accuses him of something? He'd be holding press conferences 24/7.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump denounces Project 2025<br>— I have no idea what it is<br>— it’s a group of extremely conservative people who wrote up a “wish list”, many of which I disagree with entirely.<br><br>This should be posted anywhere you see people trying to connect him to it.<a href="https://t.co/kJUU3Jp6Tj">https://t.co/kJUU3Jp6Tj</a> <a href="https://t.co/40bjIi2yR5">pic.twitter.com/40bjIi2yR5</a></p>&mdash; MJTruthUltra (@MJTruthUltra) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1812876381321113654?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >July 15, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Trump has repeatedly said that he has nothing to do with project25. How many times does he need to say it? 1000 more? 1,000,000 times? There will never be enough times. The MSM are the extension of the democrat party. No one can deny this reality. They will continue to repeat the lie to those willing to still believe these people somehow.

Now its Russia gain. How many years is that now? 9 years.

Before it was ... why doesn't Trump ever denounce Nazi's????!!!!!! ....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To my friend <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/VanJones68?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VanJone s68</a> and everyone else who apparently needs to hear this again, these are three examples of President Donald Trump unequivocally denouncing white supremacy, the KKK and Neo-Nazis. <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/9MNkZs37Dx">pic.twitter.com/9MNkZs37Dx</a></p>&mdash; Carmine Sabia (@CarmineSabia) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/CarmineSabia/status/1311347522691096576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 30, 2020</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump has disavowed white supremacy, David Duke, the KKK, and Neo-Nazi’s numerous times over the years.<br><br>Joe Biden &amp; the Democrats are continuing to push a false narrative to further divide America.<br><br>⬇️Watch ⬇️ <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/7KGczNmEZi">pic.twitter.com/7KGczNmEZi</a></p>&mdash; Courtney Holland ���� (@hollandcourtney) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1311334916466982912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 30, 2020</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the zillioneth time: Yes! Trump denounced and disavowed KKK <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Charlottesville?src=hash&amp;ref_src=tws rc%5Etfw">#Charlottesville</a><a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoSomethingGOP?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsr c%5Etfw">#DoSomethingGOP</a> like STFU and let him do his job <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/iMcaViNBok">pic.twitter.com/iMcaViNBok</a></p>&mdash; Տᗩᑎᗪᖇᗩ��️ (@SandraXFreedom) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/SandraXFreedom/status/897941023359356928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> August 16, 2017</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Donald Trump Denouncing The KKK In Year 2000 <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/lbgphAN2gq">pic.twitter.com/lbgphAN2gq</a></p>&mdash; Matt Robinson (@dowop_robinson) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/dowop_robinson/status/1538391495551721472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 19, 2022</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>The MSM fake news are the enemy of the people!

If it is out of control, which all the back and forth lies are, why not put it to bed with a news conference that speaks only to that? Not a ton of BS. Just that ! End it.

I don't care how many times someone says he has said it.

Press Conference. Say it!

Same with Harris. Immigration.

Press conference. Say it !

That is what I want to see. And I continue to wait.

[DwightShrute]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Everyone should watch and share this. <a href="https://t.co/i07eEic7f8">https://t.co/i07eEic7f8</a></p>&mdash; Catturd ™ (@catturd2) <a href="https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1832439661383577617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 7, 2024</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jackpot269]

It may swing both ways. But vastly more egregiously by the Leftist agenda. Without a doubt. Much more hateful and their policies over the past 4 years have created discourse and distrust in the political process.
”DON’T YOU THINK.?

Kamala said Joe has all his faculties and is doing a great job and she supports him. A week later he was out and she was in.

THATS POLITICS FOR YA. Do politicians lie.?.

Like a rug.

[DwightShrute]

"Our Mandate for Leadership has been publicly available for more than a year, but the left decided to train its fire on us only after President Biden’s disastrous debate performance in late June. Since then, MSNBC alone has mentioned “Project 2025” more than 1,500 times."

1500 times.

Over what exactly? Over the output from a DC thinktank (itself just one of many) that publishes its platform every four years. I'm curious, did Rachel Maddow ever mention that - did she ever say, 'You know there was, of course a Project 2021 and will be a Project 2029' or did she let organized torrent of messaging allow people to think that Project 2025 is the one-time culmination of evil forces secretly guided by Donald Trump?

"The truth is, since President Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, The Heritage Foundation has published a new Mandate for Leadership every four years to serve as a stockpile of conservative policy recommendations from which our leaders can pick and choose. Then as now, most reasonable Americans could find some proposals they like and some they don’t like. That’s OK.

We welcome the disagreement because we believe that Americans deserve a real democratic debate on important policy issues, not leaders who are chosen in backroom deals and who run from their records."

Dogs biting mailmen are a greater threat to this country than Project 2025. Ridiculous.



The quickest read you'll find all day, straight from the horse's mouth: The Stories Democrats Tell About Project 2025 ... read it and tell me that Donald Trump should bow to the calls of his opponents and disavow something he didn't create. Presidential candidates don't have to do anything like that.

Trump has repeatedly said that he has nothing to do with project25. How many times does he need to say it? 1000 more? 1,000,000 times? There will never be enough times. The MSM are the extension of the democrat party. No one can deny this reality. They will continue to repeat the lie to those willing to still believe these people somehow.

Now its Russia gain. How many years is that now? 9 years.

Before it was ... why doesn't Trump ever denounce Nazi's????!!!!!! ....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To my friend <a href="https://twitter.com/VanJones68?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VanJone s68</a> and everyone else who apparently needs to hear this again, these are three examples of President Donald Trump unequivocally denouncing white supremacy, the KKK and Neo-Nazis. <a href="https://t.co/9MNkZs37Dx">pic.twitter.com/9MNkZs37Dx</a></p>&mdash; Carmine Sabia (@CarmineSabia) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarmineSabia/status/1311347522691096576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 30, 2020</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Trump has disavowed white supremacy, David Duke, the KKK, and Neo-Nazi’s numerous times over the years.<br><br>Joe Biden &amp; the Democrats are continuing to push a false narrative to further divide America.<br><br>⬇️Watch ⬇️ <a href="https://t.co/7KGczNmEZi">pic.twitter.com/7KGczNmEZi</a></p>&mdash; Courtney Holland ���� (@hollandcourtney) <a href="https://twitter.com/hollandcourtney/status/1311334916466982912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >September 30, 2020</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For the zillioneth time: Yes! Trump denounced and disavowed KKK <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Charlottesville?src=hash&amp;ref_src=tws rc%5Etfw">#Charlottesville</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DoSomethingGOP?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsr c%5Etfw">#DoSomethingGOP</a> like STFU and let him do his job <a href="https://t.co/iMcaViNBok">pic.twitter.com/iMcaViNBok</a></p>&mdash; Տᗩᑎᗪᖇᗩ��️ (@SandraXFreedom) <a href="https://twitter.com/SandraXFreedom/status/897941023359356928?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"> August 16, 2017</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Donald Trump Denouncing The KKK In Year 2000 <a href="https://t.co/lbgphAN2gq">pic.twitter.com/lbgphAN2gq</a></p>&mdash; Matt Robinson (@dowop_robinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/dowop_robinson/status/1538391495551721472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >June 19, 2022</a></blockquote><script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>The MSM fake news are the enemy of the people!

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"Our Mandate for Leadership has been publicly available for more than a year, but the left decided to train its fire on us only after President Biden’s disastrous debate performance in late June. Since then, MSNBC alone has mentioned “Project 2025” more than 1,500 times."

1500 times.

Over what exactly? Over the output from a DC thinktank (itself just one of many) that publishes its platform every four years. I'm curious, did Rachel Maddow ever mention that - did she ever say, 'You know there was, of course a Project 2021 and will be a Project 2029' or did she let organized torrent of messaging allow people to think that Project 2025 is the one-time culmination of evil forces secretly guided by Donald Trump?

"The truth is, since President Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, The Heritage Foundation has published a new Mandate for Leadership every four years to serve as a stockpile of conservative policy recommendations from which our leaders can pick and choose. Then as now, most reasonable Americans could find some proposals they like and some they don’t like. That’s OK.

We welcome the disagreement because we believe that Americans deserve a real democratic debate on important policy issues, not leaders who are chosen in backroom deals and who run from their records."

Dogs biting mailmen are a greater threat to this country than Project 2025. Ridiculous.



The quickest read you'll find all day, straight from the horse's mouth: The Stories Democrats Tell About Project 2025 ... read it and tell me that Donald Trump should bow to the calls of his opponents and disavow something he didn't create. Presidential candidates don't have to do anything like that.

I appreciate the link. I will read all of it today. That said, if Trumps opponent is using this against him, why on earth does he not come out and talk about it and put it to bed? He needs to do that. That's what I would do and you as well most likely.

I get the balancing act he needs to play with various views but I keep waiting for him to reassure me, it's all BS. I sure as hell don't want to hear about it's the last time you will have to vote. What the hell ! And if he didn't mean it that way, tell me. ?Say it ! Hell, shout it.
I want to hear it from Trump, not apologists. Same with the border crap with Harris. Don't dodge it. Tell me the plan and own it. It's last 4 years has been terrible.
Again, I will read this link, but is this Trumps words and quotes? Or the authors? I have no interest in authors. I want to hear it from Trump and Harris. So far, I have heard little from both. Just all the noise I am supposed to hear.

One last thing. When all I hear about is bad stuff from the other sides, that tells me those sides have nothing good to say. Scare me into a vote by bashing the other guy. In my way of thinking that reflects very poorly on the one shouting it. So which side will show me and tell me the truth. Neither one has said, " we are not perfect". Neither one are, so why not admit it. Because it's a sign of weakness? No, telling the truth is a sign of strength

This is exactly why I refuse to watch CNN, Fox, and the many news outlets that are obviously slanted one way or another. I don't. And I have no intention to.

[ByeShea]

As I have said, the project 25 thing is not cool at all. IMO, a person doesn't just distance themselves from something that terrible, they staunchly reject it and keep doing so throughout. I have not seen that yet.

"Our Mandate for Leadership has been publicly available for more than a year, but the left decided to train its fire on us only after President Biden’s disastrous debate performance in late June. Since then, MSNBC alone has mentioned “Project 2025” more than 1,500 times."

1500 times.

Over what exactly? Over the output from a DC thinktank (itself just one of many) that publishes its platform every four years. I'm curious, did Rachel Maddow ever mention that - did she ever say, 'You know there was, of course a Project 2021 and will be a Project 2029' or did she let organized torrent of messaging allow people to think that Project 2025 is the one-time culmination of evil forces secretly guided by Donald Trump?

"The truth is, since President Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, The Heritage Foundation has published a new Mandate for Leadership every four years to serve as a stockpile of conservative policy recommendations from which our leaders can pick and choose. Then as now, most reasonable Americans could find some proposals they like and some they don’t like. That’s OK.

We welcome the disagreement because we believe that Americans deserve a real democratic debate on important policy issues, not leaders who are chosen in backroom deals and who run from their records."

Dogs biting mailmen are a greater threat to this country than Project 2025. Ridiculous.

It's like, Don't tell me, show me. If left to draw my own conclusions without truth and actual facts, not something spun from a news outlet, I will do the best I can with what I have to work with which is limited unfortunately. That's my view of things.

The quickest read you'll find all day, straight from the horse's mouth: The Stories Democrats Tell About Project 2025 ... read it and tell me that Donald Trump should bow to the calls of his opponents and disavow something he didn't create. Presidential candidates don't have to do anything like that.

[str]

It may swing both ways. But vastly more egregiously by the Leftist agenda. Without a doubt. Much more hateful and their policies over the past 4 years have created discourse and distrust in the political process.
”DON’T YOU THINK.?

Kamala said Joe has all his faculties and is doing a great job and she supports him. A week later he was out and she was in.

THATS POLITICS FOR YA. Do politicians lie.?.

The one word answer IMO, is Yes.

And I agree. That IS politics. Which side it swings more to, is debatable. Both have plenty of baggage there it seems.

As I have said, the project 25 thing is not cool at all. IMO, a person doesn't just distance themselves from something that terrible, they staunchly reject it and keep doing so throughout. I have not seen that yet. Maybe I will. But until I do, it leads me to conclusions that are just not anything I am for or anything countless American service men and women sacrificed everything for including close family members.

It's like, Don't tell me, show me. If left to draw my own conclusions without truth and actual facts, not something spun from a news outlet, I will do the best I can with what I have to work with which is limited unfortunately. That's my view of things.

[b1slickguy]

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[Mac4Lyfe]

It may swing both ways. But vastly more egregiously by the Leftist agenda. Without a doubt. Much more hateful and their policies over the past 4 years have created discourse and distrust in the political process.
”DON’T YOU THINK?.

What policies are hateful?

[slewfan]

Only to turn their supporters against Trump in hate filled diatribes and false accusations.



Doesn't that door swing both ways. I think this thread is proof positive of that, don't you?


He may have gotten 86 million with 10 million being stolen


He was quoted as saying he lost by a whisker just the other day. Never mentioned stolen anything.

It may swing both ways. But vastly more egregiously by the Leftist agenda. Without a doubt. Much more hateful and their policies over the past 4 years have created discourse and distrust in the political process.
”DON’T YOU THINK.?

Kamala said Joe has all his faculties and is doing a great job and she supports him. A week later he was out and she was in.

THATS POLITICS FOR YA. Do politicians lie.?.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I defend more what Trump stands for then the actual person. You make up that narrative and will continue to repeat it likely until the day you die. I have said many times Trump isn't prefect. He makes mistakes like all of us do. Yes he lies like all of us do. Like you lie. I have criticized him many times.
I will tell you what's not normal since you brought it up. You. You aren't normal with your absolute hatred Trump. I would be lying if I said I've never seen some attack a President or person like you do with Trump. The fact is there are a whole bunch just like you who suffer for a mental disorder. TDS is real.

When have you EVER ACTUALLY posted a lie or mistake he made? You are being generic on purpose. Give me an actual example… You can’t even say Trump lies without throwing in we all lie, so you can defend his lies. He makes mistakes like we all do is your way of absolving him.

I told you too many times I don’t hate Trump. I don’t like Trump. I don’t really disagree with his politics. Some of which I commended in this forum. I just don’t associate myself with guys like him. You yourself said he’s an asshole. I don’t like assholes. Apparently, most people that have worked with him feel the same way. These folks all come out and say how horrible he is. Do you think Mike Pence HATES him? Or just can’t stand the man. Why you defend a conman is very perplexing to me.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Dude get over yourself. Act like an adult for a change. I am talking politics is all. America isn't like any other country. It obviously draws a lot of interest from all sorts of people from all over the planet. You are just fixated with me because I don't subscribe to your political views so you will post this rubbish over and over. Never with an non-America who agree with you politically. Give it a rest.

Go right fukking ahead and talk about Canada or Canadians. Good or bad. I don't care and I barely anyone else would. Talk about any country you want. While you are at it, look up the meaning of pretentious. You don't know what it means and are using it incorrectly.

One more time, this is a forum and there are political threads designated to discussing politics. Its open to anyone. Anyone can speak about anything to do with politics in any country they wish. Regardless of what your passport says. No one is forcing you to post anything here. To be honest, you rarely post anything interesting as far as I am concerned. That shouldn't be much of a surprise to you. Why not debate or share your own thoughts rather than the constant name calling and whatever you call this nonsense you keep on going about with regards to my island or Canada or whatever?

You wanna talk about Canada? Start a thread about it. You will never hear me saying the nonsense you say to me. If I choose to, I will chime in and correct you just as I do about American politics and I will try and do my best to explain why you are wrong. Just as I do about American politics. That is the difference between you and I. I care more about the facts rather than those other irrelevant things you do.

I like American football also and I know a lot about it. We can argue whether or not I know more about it than you do. We can also argue about that I am not not American so why the fukk am I doing talking about the NFL or not? How dare I! Are gonna tell me I can't talk about the Miami Dolphins? What about any other franchise or aspects of the league such as rule changes or even sports gambling of the NFL? If I wanna talk about how the Dallas Cowboys suck, then I am gonna do it and you can go fukk yourself. Oh and free fukking free to talk about the CFL if ya want. Its a free country still but not if the fukking democrats have their way.

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You are not talking politics… You are talking nonsense that shows your ignorance. You post dumb memes and Twitter shit that is nothing like real life. You are constantly wrong on simple shit that clearly show you are not from here. Get your facts straight before you post. I don’t talk about Canada because I don’t know about Canada. You try to talk about America but you don’t know America. You know only what Fox is feeding you. You’re living in a clown world.

[str]

You are blinded by the lies and manipulations of the Leftist Machine. Just think. The left can’t run on their policies. Only to turn their supporters against Trump in hate filled diatribes and false accusations. Just like the Nazi’s did against the Jews.

Biden is coming out now admitting all his lies and mistakes. It seems feasible Kamala is more incompetent than Joe. She voted with him on everything.

I do not think I’m duped. If you think about the last 4 years, you might be the one believing and accepting the lies thrown your way.

Trump got 76 million votes. He is not alone. He may have gotten 86 million with 10 million being stolen..

Only to turn their supporters against Trump in hate filled diatribes and false accusations.



Doesn't that door swing both ways. I think this thread is proof positive of that, don't you?


He may have gotten 86 million with 10 million being stolen


He was quoted as saying he lost by a whisker just the other day. Never mentioned stolen anything.

[DwightShrute]

Taking things personal is you defending Trump anytime someone here says anything you feel is negative about him. You go out your way to defend the guy. It’s not normal. I’ve never seen someone defend a former president like you do and you’re not a citizen.

I defend more what Trump stands for then the actual person. You make up that narrative and will continue to repeat it likely until the day you die. I have said many times Trump isn't prefect. He makes mistakes like all of us do. Yes he lies like all of us do. Like you lie. I have criticized him many times.

I will tell you what's not normal since you brought it up. You. You aren't normal with your absolute hatred Trump. I would be lying if I said I've never seen some attack a President or person like you do with Trump. The fact is there are a whole bunch just like you who suffer for a mental disorder. TDS is real.

[DwightShrute]

You are blinded by the lies and manipulations of the Leftist Machine. Just think. The left can’t run on their policies. Only to turn their supporters against Trump in hate filled diatribes and false accusations. Just like the Nazi’s did against the Jews.

Biden is coming out now admitting all his lies and mistakes. It seems feasible Kamala is more incompetent than Joe. She voted with him on everything.

I do not think I’m duped. If you think about the last 4 years, you might be the one believing and accepting the lies thrown your way.

Trump got 76 million votes. He is not alone. He may have gotten 86 million with 10 million being stolen..

for sure.

Willful ignorance

Winners make adjustments. Losers make excuses.

A cabal of American hating Marxists. They are against individual liberties. Its all about groups. Cults. Mobs. They collude with big tech, woke businesses, sports leagues. The are the bullies. They intimidate. They threaten you and your ability to earn a living. They are the enemy. Their purpose is to destroy American society. They attack everything .... customs, traditions, culture, entertainment, literature, patriotism, institution, law enforcement and they brainwash children. They collude with fake news and big tech to push their Marxist agenda.

[DwightShrute]

Do you talk shit about your island like the US? You don’t think your island can be destroyed? Why do you think you’re the savior of the US? Do we really need you to tell us our shit don’t stink? Clean up your own home/island before you try to clean up ours. It’s a bitch move on your part. Imagine an American telling Canadians what’s wrong with them? Or me telling your citizens how to run your island. Are you that pretentious?

Dude get over yourself. Act like an adult for a change. I am talking politics is all. America isn't like any other country. It obviously draws a lot of interest from all sorts of people from all over the planet. You are just fixated with me because I don't subscribe to your political views so you will post this rubbish over and over. Never with an non-America who agree with you politically. Give it a rest.

Go right fukking ahead and talk about Canada or Canadians. Good or bad. I don't care and I barely anyone else would. Talk about any country you want. While you are at it, look up the meaning of pretentious. You don't know what it means and are using it incorrectly.

One more time, this is a forum and there are political threads designated to discussing politics. Its open to anyone. Anyone can speak about anything to do with politics in any country they wish. Regardless of what your passport says. No one is forcing you to post anything here. To be honest, you rarely post anything interesting as far as I am concerned. That shouldn't be much of a surprise to you. Why not debate or share your own thoughts rather than the constant name calling and whatever you call this nonsense you keep on going about with regards to my island or Canada or whatever?

You wanna talk about Canada? Start a thread about it. You will never hear me saying the nonsense you say to me. If I choose to, I will chime in and correct you just as I do about American politics and I will try and do my best to explain why you are wrong. Just as I do about American politics. That is the difference between you and I. I care more about the facts rather than those other irrelevant things you do.

I like American football also and I know a lot about it. We can argue whether or not I know more about it than you do. We can also argue about that I am not not American so why the fukk am I doing talking about the NFL or not? How dare I! Are gonna tell me I can't talk about the Miami Dolphins? What about any other franchise or aspects of the league such as rule changes or even sports gambling of the NFL? If I wanna talk about how the Dallas Cowboys suck, then I am gonna do it and you can go fukk yourself. Oh and free fukking free to talk about the CFL if ya want. Its a free country still but not if the fukking democrats have their way.

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[Mac4Lyfe]

You are blinded by the lies and manipulations of the Leftist Machine. Just think. The left can’t run on their policies. Only to turn their supporters against Trump in hate filled diatribes and false accusations. Just like the Nazi’s did against the Jews. Biden is coming out now admitting all his lies and mistakes. It seems feasible Kamala is more incompetent than Joe. She voted with him on everything.I do not think I’m duped. If you think about the last 4 years, you might be the one believing and accepting the lies thrown your way.
Trump got 76 million votes. He is not alone. He may have gotten 86 million with 10 million being stolen..

Did you read what I posted? None of what I posted had anything to do with the left or Harris. How about answering the question. Who was in Trumps corner in 2016 that has stuck by him in 2024? We are talking about people who once followed him. Where are they now?

[slewfan]

You can judge a man or woman by the company they keep. Who is in Trumps corner? Have you asked yourself why EVERY person that is around him grows tired of him and leaves? Trump cares about one thing, himself. How is it possible that all the key people he brought in 2016 have all not only decided not to work with him again, they ALL have literally come out against him. His VP said he cannot in good conscience support Trump but somehow you don’t ask why? Even His wife and daughter said they will not be a part of his reelection. All of his appointees are actively rooting against him. No past president supports him. You ever seen any shit like this? Find me ONE person that knows Trump and can give Trump a good word?

You don’t think that you might be duped? You don’t trust the word of all these people who were the closest people to him? His own VP for God sake. Wake up man.

You are blinded by the lies and manipulations of the Leftist Machine. Just think. The left can’t run on their policies. Only to turn their supporters against Trump in hate filled diatribes and false accusations. Just like the Nazi’s did against the Jews.

Biden is coming out now admitting all his lies and mistakes. It seems feasible Kamala is more incompetent than Joe. She voted with him on everything.

I do not think I’m duped. If you think about the last 4 years, you might be the one believing and accepting the lies thrown your way.

Trump got 76 million votes. He is not alone. He may have gotten 86 million with 10 million being stolen..