Trump Legal Cases

[Hareeba!]

You don't know how appeals work, do you? He isn't going to win any appeal, but he'll try to tie it up as long as possible. Maybe he'll die first.

This case isn't appealable

[khicks26]

[TheGoldenGoose]

no... he will tie it up until next year and pardon himself you coward. Lol more proof you are not a lawyer.

For the record… a sitting President cannot “pardon himself”. Trump would need to get elected again, then resign, then get the VP who became POTUS to effect a full “Pardon”.
Not seen since Nixon resigned and Gerald Ford in turn pardoned Nixon.

[brooks85]

For the record… a sitting President cannot “pardon himself”. Trump would need to get elected again, then resign, then get the VP who became POTUS to effect a full “Pardon”.
Not seen since Nixon resigned and Gerald Ford in turn pardoned Nixon.

For the record you are wrong. A sitting president can do pretty much whatever the F they want which includes pardoning themselves. Absolutely nothing stopped nixon from doing it.



Trump will pardon himself.

[Hareeba!]

Independent Monitor Overseeing Trump Org's Finances Identifies Significant Deficiencies, Errors

Wow! Who would have thunk?

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/independent-monitor-overseeing-trump-orgs-finances-identifies-significant-deficiencies-errors

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You can dm for my facebook and we can set up escrow.

You can't arrange any money deals on here.

[DwightShrute]

This case isn't appealable

[Hareeba!]

[JIBBBY]

^ The Legal system is so weaponized against Trump in the State of NY it's not even funny.

I hope if there is ever an attack on America NY State is the first to get hit and go. That State is a dirty crime ridden dump now beside the corrupt legal system. Businesses are either closing down and or moving to other States. Many smart NY residents are on the move as well.

[Slurry Pumper]

I think that when the Trumpenator wins in November, he should just let the impending trials go on. I bet they will all fold up or he will be acquitted, even in New York. I think he plans on making a total clown show out of the 4 trials they have lined up now. It will be fun seeing Nancy Pelosi, oh excuse me Chupracabra, on the stand taking questions. Then there will be all the other higher echelon types in the government that will be called including Biden at this point. Don't forget he had a hand in the conspiracy as well. They will not be able to avoid the witness stand as a reluctant witness.
Then of course the libs will probably try a real insurrection, so it will be hard times either way, but we will have to endure it as Americans because we have to let the bad blood run. Its the only way we can cleans ourselves and become a great country again.

[d2bets]

I think that when the Trumpenator wins in November, he should just let the impending trials go on. I bet they will all fold up or he will be acquitted, even in New York. I think he plans on making a total clown show out of the 4 trials they have lined up now. It will be fun seeing Nancy Pelosi, oh excuse me Chupracabra, on the stand taking questions. Then there will be all the other higher echelon types in the government that will be called including Biden at this point. Don't forget he had a hand in the conspiracy as well. They will not be able to avoid the witness stand as a reluctant witness.
Then of course the libs will probably try a real insurrection, so it will be hard times either way, but we will have to endure it as Americans because we have to let the bad blood run. Its the only way we can cleans ourselves and become a great country again.

The gas fumes are going to your head.

[Hareeba!]

The gas fumes are going to your head.

Just astonishing that there are so many people like that walking amongst us!
And they get to vote!
How are they going to take it when the biggest loser loses yet again?
Just make up even more conspiracy crap to feed to their cult.

[slewfan]

[Hareeba!]

Still waiting on this MAGAt coward's response to my challenge to his post from last week!

[DwightShrute]

Still waiting on this MAGAt coward's response to my challenge to his post from last week!

Hilarious coming from the Karen who pretends to put people on ignore because they destroy his lies with facts.

[Hareeba!]

Judge Kaplan, to jurors: "My advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury."

So here we have a member of the U.S. judiciary recognizing that Trump and his supporters remain a violent threat to ordinary Americans.

[brooks85]

Judge Kaplan, to jurors: "My advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury."

So here we have a member of the U.S. judiciary recognizing that Trump and his supporters remain a violent threat to ordinary Americans.

clown

[jackpot269]

For the record you are wrong. A sitting president can do pretty much whatever the F they want which includes pardoning themselves. Absolutely nothing stopped nixon from doing it.



Trump will pardon himself.

So Biden could pardon himself and Hunter then?

So there is no checks and balances of the 3 branches of government anymore?

Constitution divided the Government into three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. That was an important decision because it gave specific powers to each branch and set up something called checks and balances. Just like the phrase sounds, the point of checks and balances was to make sure no one branch would be able to control too much power, and it created a separation of powers.

[Hareeba!]

So Biden could pardon himself and Hunter then?

So there is no checks and balances of the 3 branches of government anymore?

Constitution divided the Government into three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. That was an important decision because it gave specific powers to each branch and set up something called checks and balances. Just like the phrase sounds, the point of checks and balances was to make sure no one branch would be able to control too much power, and it created a separation of powers.

Nixon didn't pardon himself. That was Ford

[jackpot269]

Nixon didn't pardon himself. That was Ford

I understand, but by his reasoning, I was saying, if Trump as POTUS could pardon himself then so could Biden. That also assumes that Trump would be elected. They getting the cart in front of the mule.

[Hareeba!]

The guy who walked out of the White House with over two dozen boxes of top secret and classified documents says people should be shot for shoplifting aspirin.

[brooks85]

So Biden could pardon himself and Hunter then?

So there is no checks and balances of the 3 branches of government anymore?

Constitution divided the Government into three branches: legislative, executive, and judicial. That was an important decision because it gave specific powers to each branch and set up something called checks and balances. Just like the phrase sounds, the point of checks and balances was to make sure no one branch would be able to control too much power, and it created a separation of powers.

"So Biden could pardon himself and Hunter then?"

100%

"So there is no checks and balances of the 3 branches of government anymore?'

nope, never was when it came to presidential pardon powers and executive orders. Not sure why you brought that up?

[d2bets]

For the record you are wrong. A sitting president can do pretty much whatever the F they want which includes pardoning themselves. Absolutely nothing stopped nixon from doing it.



Trump will pardon himself.

If/when he's President, he can pardon himself for any federal crime. He can't pardon himself for state criminal acts, and unrelatedly can't excuse civil liabilities.

[brooks85]

If/when he's President, he can pardon himself for any federal crime. He can't pardon himself for state criminal acts, and unrelatedly can't excuse civil liabilities.

yes he can. Learn how to read the constitution before you reply.

Like many before you who only read fake news what you mean to say is NO president has ever done it. You need to learn the difference between "have not" done something and "can not" do something. Once you understand that go read the constitution. There is nothing stopping trump from saying this is an attack on the united states which it was and pardoning himself from all liabilities as specifically detailed in the constitution.

[jackpot269]

"So Biden could pardon himself and Hunter then?"

100%

"So there is no checks and balances of the 3 branches of government anymore?'

nope, never was when it came to presidential pardon powers and executive orders. Not sure why you brought that up?

On pardons you may be correct, but they pass legislation. Congress can pass legislation to stop executive orders or take a POTUS to court over them.
Example: Members of the house took Biden to court over collage loan forgiveness. So no executive orders are not absolute.
We have a President not a king or dictator.

[jackpot269]

yes he can. Learn how to read the constitution before you reply.

Like many before you who only read fake news what you mean to say is NO president has ever done it. You need to learn the difference between "have not" done something and "can not" do something. Once you understand that go read the constitution. There is nothing stopping trump from saying this is an attack on the united states which it was and pardoning himself from all liabilities as specifically detailed in the constitution.

The constitution says " can pardon against crimes against the United States"
Not against a state.

[brooks85]

The constitution says " can pardon against crimes against the United States"
Not against a state.

Is donald trump a state?

[jackpot269]

Is donald trump a state?

No but Georgia is.
That's the problem with the GOP, they always want it the rules and laws to work for them. When they don't they think they you change the meaning until they do. Hypocritical.

[brooks85]

No but Georgia is.
That's the problem with the GOP, they always want it the rules and laws to work for them. When they don't they think they you change the meaning until they do. Hypocritical.

"No but Georgia is."

Is Georgia president of the US?

[d2bets]

"No but Georgia is."

Is Georgia president of the US?

You went away all that time and managed to get dumber. Congrats!

[brooks85]

You went away all that time and managed to get dumber. Congrats!

you're d2bets... I don't even need to say anything else to insult you... haha wtf

[Hareeba!]

When Deutsche Bank and Fortress forgave huge amounts of Trump’s debt after being sued by Trump for the disastrous Chicago skyscraper deal, it appears from the data that is now out in the public that Trump pretended that a company called Chicago Unit Acquisitions (owned 100 percent by Trump) acquired the debt and was servicing the “springing loan” with himself (Donald Trump). The financial monitor found that this $50+million loan between the Trump-owned shell company and Trump never existed so it appears that Deutsche and Fortress simply forgave the underlying debt and to avoid paying taxes on the forgiveness Trump lied and pretended the debt was being parked at his shell company in a non-existent loan with himself.

More data is needed to fully form the opinion that is an unlawful debt parking scheme, but it certainly appears to have the hallmarks of one based on what financial monitor Judge Barbara Jones smoked out.

Will be interesting to see how Justice Engoron and NY AG Letitia James address the issue.

[brooks85]

There is only 1 thing the president can not pardon, only 1 thing the constitution is explicitly clear on that the president can not pardon.




Trump will be pardoning himself from all liabilities because the constitution clearly says he is allowed to.

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There is only 1 thing the president can not pardon, only 1 thing the constitution is explicitly clear on that the president can not pardon.




Trump will be pardoning himself from all liabilities because the constitution clearly says he is allowed to.

That's utter rubbish.

Not even American and know more about presidential pardon powers than you.

Even ignoring the silly claim about the extent of reach you made, it is also not as clearly defined as you claim it is to be unquestionable without recourse.

[d2bets]

There is only 1 thing the president can not pardon, only 1 thing the constitution is explicitly clear on that the president can not pardon.




Trump will be pardoning himself from all liabilities because the constitution clearly says he is allowed to.

Despite the breadth of the President’s authority under the Pardon Clause, the Constitution’s text provides for at least two limits on the power: first, clemency may only be granted for Offenses against the United States,5 meaning that state criminal offenses and federal or state civil claims are not covered.6 Second, the President’s clemency authority cannot be used in Cases of impeachment.7

• 6 Jump to essay-6Ex parte Grossman, 267 U.S. 87, 111, 115, 122 (1925) (acknowledging that phrase was included presumably to make clear that the pardon of the President was to operate upon offenses against the United States as distinguished from offenses against the states and distinguishing between civil and criminal contempt for purposes of pardon authority).

https://constitution.congress.gov/br...%20wronged.%20).