The fact that after being exposed to all of this you remain oblivious is beyond words, beyond disgraceful.
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You mad bro?
I answered a lot of the dumbass questions that were asked in this thread. I even provided some facts and evidence in regards to why it wasn't a controlled demolition.
I ask you guys a few elementary questions and you guys don't answer, fly off the handle, and start calling everyone an idiot that doesn't agree with you. That's pretty typical.
When these wacko people are presented with something that makes sense and then asked very easy questions, they don't know how to respond so they get defensive.
If you're not smart enough to reply to an easy question, you have to resort to these tactics. It really says a lot and kind of what I expected. I am actually stupid for trying to reason with you people.
Continue believing whatever it is you to choose to believe and continue to live in fear. It's your right.Last edited by BigDofBA; 12-27-15, 03:49 PM.Comment -
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Giving answers doesnt equate to giving correct answers. Many stated in all buildings that bottom floors blew out before buildings collapsed so saying in controlled demolitions explosives are planted in the base the statements from eyewitnesses corroborate just that. Can you explain how hundreds said they heard explosions, also in the vid above how would firemen know the building was about to come down, blow up? How did so many report of hearing countdowns from personnel on radio and report of hearing explosions seconds after the countdown was over and the building falling afterwards. How could such happen if there wasnt foreknowledge? You mad bro?
I answered a lot of the dumbass questions that were asked in this thread. I even provided some facts and evidence in regards to why it wasn't a controlled demolition.
I ask you guys a few elementary questions and you guys don't answer, fly off the handle, and start calling everyone an idiot that doesn't agree with you. That's pretty typical.
When these wacko people are presented with something that makes sense and then asked very easy questions, they don't know how to respond so they get defensive.
If you're not smart enough to reply to an easy question, you have to resort to these tactics. It really says a lot and kind of what I expected. I am actually stupid for trying to reason with you people.
Continue believing whatever it is you to choose to believe and continue to live in fear. It's your right.Comment -
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak in London TV studio
LIVE as the planes were crashing into the building
and United 93 was still in the AIR
is saying Osama Bin Laden did it. Makes sense, right ?
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There were also hundreds that say the opposite.
There was mass confusion that day. A demolition is much louder and what happened on 911 isn't consistent with a demolition. If you choose to believe the opposite that it fine. Just know that for every engineer that supports 911 truth there are about 100 that don't. The amount of support for 911 truth by experts in the field is actually a very small percentage of the people in their respective fields.
I respect you. When can agree to disagree and have different opinions. It's not a big deal.
If people want to believe planes didn't hit the building even though they did, that's fine too. I'm obviously not going to change anyone's mind regardless of how much evidence supports me.
I have a friend that lives there and saw the second plane hit yet some of the responses I'm getting are "So you just think planes hit because the media told you? You idiot." That's why this is really pointless. Even if you think I'm full of shit and don't know people that live in New York, there were thousands of other people that saw what my friend saw too. The fact I have to argue with people about planes is ridiculous to me and then after people throw out other theories that it was some remote control plane they can't even figure out what happened to the passengers.
This whole thread is a fiasco.Last edited by BigDofBA; 12-27-15, 04:23 PM.Comment -
Where is video of people saying the opposite who were actually inside of the building, Id like to see it. There is plenty of video of those who were inside the building who said ground floor windows were blown out and the building was still standing, and said the lobby looked as if a bomb had blown it up, how could that happen? So the firemen, emt, first responders who all say on video that they know what bombs sound like say they heard explosions, boom, boom, boom over and over, on video, are they making it up? Where is the video of firemen and emt saying otherwise? Again, in the video above, how could the firemen know that the buildings were about to come down, that they were about to blow up, how could they know that, others have said the same thing, how could they know if they werent told such?Comment -
There's ton of top secret shit at the pentagon. Top secret papers were flying all over. They needed to round them up.I would like to know exactly wtf these idiots are up to at the pentagon;
and i'm with anyone re: show us the f'n footage of a jet hitting the pentagaon....
or show us plane remains.... the fukkin' fbi grabbin' everything and not sharing it with the public is complete and utter bullshit....
For those who say trillions were lost at the pentagon, I ask you this, why would trillions of dollars even be there
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haters gonna hate,
players gonna play,
conspirators gonna conspire.........
I'm gonna head to L'auberge and play some poker......... and party with my wife.....
let me know if any other wtc buildings fall..... (I hear some fires may still be burning)Comment -
RKelly, for all your intellectual puffery and scorn towards "truthers," you sure make a habit of saying some awfully stupid things.
You really think they were out there just collecting papers? Get real. They were charged with the duty of cleaning up obvious signs of the missile/drone that hit the Pentagon in an effort to cover their tracks.
Why else would they be out there casually strolling about a crime scene if America was "under attack" as alleged? In light up these multiple "failures" of our 600 billion dollar defense system, wouldn't it seem likely that they would be scrambling for safety, unsure of what could happen next?
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I want the entire government broken off.Comment -
plus, they walk right by the top secret papers... a few pick up things that can't be seen, but they're not papers....Last edited by Auto Donk; 12-27-15, 06:30 PM.Comment -
Mwah saying stupid things? I'm not the one saying a missile or drone took out the pentagon. Firefighters themselves said they saw top secret papers all over the place. Most documents were still in paper form back then. It's common sense to have people scour the grounds for important papers.
Is there a timeline on when that video was taken? It could've been the next day they were paper hunting.Comment -
How would a firefighter know "top secret" papers from not-so-top-secret papers?
"Most documents were still in paper form back then.." Really? Did this take place September 11, 1930? Did we invade Iraq with swords and muskets?
The toppest of the top secret materials are not housed in a file cabinet like the Dewey Decimal system... Nor are the trillions of dollars that were unaccounted for. Furthermore, any top secrets that were kept in paper form would have been stashed in the basement levels of the facility... weather/fire/attack proofed vaults.
And what about the Pentagon's very own anti-air missile defense system?
Not to mention, flying a commercial airline that low to the ground with that degree of precision is impossible, even under the control of the best expert pilot... and these hijackers were far from expert.
Pilots and engineers will also tell you it's impossible to sustain that degree of speed at such a low altitude.
Why don't we have any footage of an airline crashing into the Pentagon? The area is rife with cameras, and yet, all we get is some grainy, stutter-framed film of a white object followed by an explosion. Hell, the Patterson bigfoot film is more convincing than that.
9/11 is a lie. You can lie to yourself if you want. You seem to enjoy it, but don't condescend to people who care to look beneath the surface for the real truth. You are not "smarter" than anyone simply because you choose to side with the official fairy tale.Comment -
Uh, papers were marked top secret? The old top secret files might've been in the basement, not the current ones.
Paper is probably more secure than computer files that can be easily hacked.
Air defense system is pretty much junk with the airport nearby. Even then, the plane was coming in too low and fast.
Hijack pilots were by no means experts which is why the plane hit the ground before the pentagon. Planes
can fly that low and sustain speed, it's just not fuel efficient.
IDK why there wasn't better pictures.
My condescending is very subtle compared to others. I just have a hard time with people that say things didn't
happen, it was a hologram, free energy or the govt killed innocent people to further an agenda that wasn't created yet.
Don't come on here talking dumb stuff and not expect rebuttals. You guys believe what you want, but those youtube
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If you don't believe the government would kill people to further an agenda, then you are very naive and ignorant of world history.
When I say government, I'm not talking about your local mayor or state senator... but the true elite, whose allegiances lie not with the people, or a nation, or any political affiliation, but with self interest... to not only line their pockets, but broaden their scope of power. These global cabals care not for the individual and their decisions on world affairs are rendered behind closed doors without the consent of the public.
I know that may sound flaky to you, but that's because your worldview is framed by the "textbook" paradigm, which dictates that you're government is there for you, and is always looking out for you. The United States would never knowingly partake in any immoral endeavor. That is something other countries do... not the good ol' Stars and Stripes. You're safe and sound here.
That's not how it works.Last edited by Eddy Munny; 12-27-15, 10:31 PM.Comment -
Why do I have no integrity? For trying to open peoples eyes to the truth?Comment -
i'll say this, those f'n fake planes did a helluva lot of damage..... and were so f'n realistic looking, and sounding.....
this vid pretty much shows that, I guess, James Cameron, Steven Speilnigga, and their special effects people should immediately be arrested for killing all those people, wait, no one died on 9.11, so it can't be for killing people, let's see, what can we charge them with for faking all this shit????
this video of the first plane, one of the few known to exist, hasn't made the tin hat crews' posts yet.... why not? how the fuk is this video fake, o' ye of the tin foil hat????
most uttered phrase that day: "HOLY SHIT!!!!"
HOW DID THEY FAKE THAT SOUND EFFECT, AND PLANE, SO WELL, AND FIRE BOMB, ETC.?Donker... in that first video you posted. How did the guy shooting the footage know exactly where that plane was going to hit? To a tee it was too perfect. Look at it closely. Furthermore, just when you hear the so called "plane sound effects flying over" while the camera was panned away from the towers.... why does the frames per second rate slow down? The video almost pauses itself... but the sound quality doesn't? It stayed the same.
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I said this earlier, the guy that shot this just so happens to be with the New York fire department that day. He is not a fireman but was able to get a lot of footage. He went to WTC with the firemen that day. He was documenting the firemen when this " unexpectedly " happen.Comment -
wow, this topic has taken off since i last posted in it. probably not even worth the time to catch up on it. been too busy watching the fake tornado stuff around dallas. i'm sure the government did this to us.
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So the 911 truthers tell me I am an idiot for believing the media and what I saw on TV. They tell my that none of it can be trusted and the media could very well be in the cover up. They even say the planes hitting the building was faked.....then the truthers proceed to show media clips to try to support their theories....
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I question the official story bigtime, especially when it comes to physics and who has the most to gain/agenda
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I agree with you CashFlow. I remember watching this live and I said to myself... I can't believe this is happening. Terrorists ramming our own planes into our buildings.
But as the years pass... you can clearly see all the questions now. No way this is 100% the truth. When that 2nd "object" hits... it sure doesn't look like a plane to me. Look at how precise and accurate it was coming in. Like it was locked on like a heat seeking missile. (No... not saying it was a missile.)
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I'm glad you're logical. I question many things about the story too but a lot of the statements in this thread are flat out ignorant.
The fact that people have spent time trying to come up with various theories about the damn planes being graphically rendered is embarrassing just like you said.
I would entertain the idea that our government may have had knowledge an attack was imminent and did little to prevent it. I would even entertain the idea that the flight in Penn was shot down.
With that said, I get annoyed when people try to act like they know it all, open their mouth, and stupid comes out.
Don't try to explain how engineering and physics work if all you've done is watch a few YouTube videos. That's all I'm saying. And please, just bc someone makes a claim in the Internet, it doesn't mean it's true.
I really don't think the government orchestrated 911 but I could see them letting it happen if it met certain agendas and a few people gained from it.Last edited by BigDofBA; 12-28-15, 02:53 AM.Comment -
BigDofBa - The only thing you need to know that's 100% true... no way 4 planes get past our defense mechanisms. Right when that happened... something was set up. Whatever the truth is after that is a coin flip.Comment
