No planes on 9-11-01

[BigDofBA]

BigDofBa - The only thing you need to know that's 100% true... no way 4 planes get past our defense mechanisms. Right when that happened... something was set up. Whatever the truth is after that is a coin flip.

So what are you saying happened? You don't think they were hijacked? You don't think they were real planes?

If they weren't commercial planes, what happened to the flights that left Boston and all the passengers? That's why I have difficulty buying into that theory.

I agree that it's unlikely that our intelligence had no idea an attack was in the works. That's why I said I could buy into that theory. With that said, we weren't attacked by our government. There really are people in the Middle East that want to kill us.

Do any of guys have friends in the military that have been overseas? Ask them for yourself what the people over there think of us.

[Plaza23]

Some of you people here are fn morons. 4 planes were hijacked. We have video of planes flying into 3 of these places. When the shit is on videotape, and you still have people that don't believe it, then they are just blind idiots. I mean, what more proof do you need?

It was an amazing terrorist attack. Flawlessly and brilliantly pulled off. The hi-jackers took flight lessons for a reason. And the attack was fairly simple. Hi-jack planes, and steer them into large objects. And they pulled it off. End of story.

The only thing the US government could have done differently was shoot down the hijacked planes before they got to the towers. They did not do it - probably because they never believed the hijackers would actually fly them into those spots. Also, the fallout from shooting down a commercial airliner is something the US government would never want to carry the weight on.

Some things are just blatantly obvious that there's no need for a conspiracy theory. It really is, what it is. A group of Islamic terrorists (who have been committing terrorism against the US for DECADES now), attacked. And they attacked because their religion tells them to attack. And they'll continue to attack until we either convert them or kill them.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

When you want answers to your questions, all you have to do is follow the money. Who benefitted the most from 911?

But one question I have is if the hijackers were identified as Saudis, why did we invade Iraq?

[innovation]

this guys account is detailed and remarkable, if he has fabricated the whole thing he has quite an imagination and ability to create fine details into memory. Having key cards and access to virtually the whole building makes sense as to how he witnessed things he shouldn't and seeing bodies and coworkers skin melted off from bombs is unsettling.

If it's true other who went public with bomb statements turned up dead it make one wonder why he didn't and him going back into the building after feeling the bombs is questionable in my mind but nonetheless his story is quite amazing

https://coto2.wordpress.com/2011/08/10/last-man-out-on-911-makes-shocking-disclosures/

someone one can paste the article I'm on my phone

[rkelly110]

When you want answers to your questions, all you have to do is follow the money. Who benefitted the most from 911?

But one question I have is if the hijackers were identified as Saudis, why did we invade Iraq?

Or could be the other way around. Osama Bin Laden supposedly was the orchestrator. Son of a rich Saudi.

Why target the world trade centers? They are the hub of world trade. Trillions of dollars goes through those
buildings every day from around the world. Take them down and it will cause world monetary problems.

Attacking the US, knowing we would not stop until we found who did this terrible act, using up all our resources.

It's easy looking back and seeing what the terrorists wanted to achieve. America in deep debt, America's and
the world's economies collapsing almost to the point of no return.

Exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted or was he a puppet for the Saudis? The Saudi's are the richest on earth,
do they want more money? To be the world power? Make us fight their enemies in the middle east so they don't
have too? That's what it looks like to me.

[ByeShea]

Exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted or was he a puppet for the Saudis? The Saudi's are the richest on earth,
do they want more money? To be the world power? Make us fight their enemies in the middle east so they don't
have too? That's what it looks like to me.

OBL was a strict adherent of Wahhabism and came from means - the Bin Ladens are a very wealthy family (construction) that helped build the infrastructure of Saudi Arabia that oil money built. The Saudis considered OBL a troublemaker, because he was one, and he was always on the outs with them. In fact, one of OBL's main beefs with the House of Saud (royal family) was that they let the US Army come fight their battles when Saddam Hussein's tanks started rolling through Kuwait. Saudi Arabia would have been next and Obama wanted to lead a holy war, maybe with an ISIS-like result, against Saddam - but S.A. royal family was like "fuk that". OBL used the pretext of an infidel army on holy land as a major rallying theme from then on.

[sourtwist]

Establishing a world Bank in each and every country, and breaking up any leadership that resists is the main goal for the elite. They start wars out of thin air by creating a new enemy. These enemies happen to be in places in which a world Bank is non existent. Countries like Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria come to mind. Sound familiar?

Power is most important, and they gain power by planting a leader who will be a puppet for their agenda after taking out the leaders who stand in their way... Saddam and Assad come quickly to mind.

Money is an afterthought, they can print money at will. By putting a world Bank in place, they can literally enslave the people of a country, and this is their ultimate goal.

[sourtwist]

Or could be the other way around. Osama Bin Laden supposedly was the orchestrator. Son of a rich Saudi.

Why target the world trade centers? They are the hub of world trade. Trillions of dollars goes through those
buildings every day from around the world. Take them down and it will cause world monetary problems.

Attacking the US, knowing we would not stop until we found who did this terrible act, using up all our resources.

It's easy looking back and seeing what the terrorists wanted to achieve. America in deep debt, America's and
the world's economies collapsing almost to the point of no return.

Exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted or was he a puppet for the Saudis? The Saudi's are the richest on earth,
do they want more money? To be the world power? Make us fight their enemies in the middle east so they don't
have too? That's what it looks like to me.

I truly hope you don't think bin Laden was responsible.

The trade centers were a target for many reasons.

Aside from the towers having asbestos issues, the elite wanted to devastate Americans and gain their support for starting wars in the middle east.

Zakheim is quoted as saying that a new pearl Harbor is what would be necessary.

[sourtwist]

Some of you people here are fn morons. 4 planes were hijacked. We have video of planes flying into 3 of these places. When the shit is on videotape, and you still have people that don't believe it, then they are just blind idiots. I mean, what more proof do you need?

It was an amazing terrorist attack. Flawlessly and brilliantly pulled off. The hi-jackers took flight lessons for a reason. And the attack was fairly simple. Hi-jack planes, and steer them into large objects. And they pulled it off. End of story.

The only thing the US government could have done differently was shoot down the hijacked planes before they got to the towers. They did not do it - probably because they never believed the hijackers would actually fly them into those spots. Also, the fallout from shooting down a commercial airliner is something the US government would never want to carry the weight on.

Some things are just blatantly obvious that there's no need for a conspiracy theory. It really is, what it is. A group of Islamic terrorists (who have been committing terrorism against the US for DECADES now), attacked. And they attacked because their religion tells them to attack. And they'll continue to attack until we either convert them or kill them.

L

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You're barely scratching the surface

[ByeShea]

Establishing a world Bank in each and every country, and breaking up any leadership that resists is the main goal for the elite. They start wars out of thin air by creating a new enemy. These enemies happen to be in places in which a world Bank is non existent. Countries like Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria come to mind. Sound familiar?

Power is most important, and they gain power by planting a leader who will be a puppet for their agenda after taking out the leaders who stand in their way... Saddam and Assad come quickly to mind.

Money is an afterthought, they can print money at will. By putting a world Bank in place, they can literally enslave the people of a country, and this is their ultimate goal.

Have you ever tried not being a complete goober?

[MoeSedway]

Joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooos!

/Thread

[BigDofBA]

The fact that people think the US government needs "events" to goto war is comical.

The government does whatever it wants anyway.

So the government killed over 3000 people and orchestrated the hugest inside job/cover up in the universe just to gain support from the very people it was killing?

Sounds legit.....

[rkelly110]

OBL was a strict adherent of Wahhabism and came from means - the Bin Ladens are a very wealthy family (construction) that helped build the infrastructure of Saudi Arabia that oil money built. The Saudis considered OBL a troublemaker, because he was one, and he was always on the outs with them. In fact, one of OBL's main beefs with the House of Saud (royal family) was that they let the US Army come fight their battles when Saddam Hussein's tanks started rolling through Kuwait. Saudi Arabia would have been next and Obama wanted to lead a holy war, maybe with an ISIS-like result, against Saddam - but S.A. royal family was like "fuk that". OBL used the pretext of an infidel army on holy land as a major rallying theme from then on.

What ever the outcome of attacking the trade centers, from hitting the world in their pocket books to starting a holy war, it's working, he succeeded.

[Bustedu]

WNBC saw a missile or small plane in Chopper4 video

[BigDofBA]

I truly hope you don't think bin Laden was responsible.

The trade centers were a target for many reasons.

Aside from the towers having asbestos issues, the elite wanted to devastate Americans and gain their support for starting wars in the middle east.

Zakheim is quoted as saying that a new pearl Harbor is what would be necessary.

There were wars in the Middle East a decade before 911. They didn't need 911 to goto war. They could have done it anyway.

Oh yeah, and there are probably more effective ways to deal with asbestos than blowing up two of the largest buildings in the world, killing over 3000 people, and losing billions of dollars in the process. Just a thought....

You also seem to think this was done to set up a world bank. Well 911 happened about 15 years ago and we still don't have a world bank. Are all the people that planned this massive inside job going to be dead by the time the bank is setup?

Lmao. These theories are so stupid.

[sourtwist]

Blind and clueless... No fixing it for you, and my posts are no longer directed toward you.

[Bustedu]

9/11 conspiracy: The ball next to tower 2

[jtoler]

Establishing a world Bank in each and every country, and breaking up any leadership that resists is the main goal for the elite. They start wars out of thin air by creating a new enemy. These enemies happen to be in places in which a world Bank is non existent. Countries like Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria come to mind. Sound familiar?

Power is most important, and they gain power by planting a leader who will be a puppet for their agenda after taking out the leaders who stand in their way... Saddam and Assad come quickly to mind.

Money is an afterthought, they can print money at will. By putting a world Bank in place, they can literally enslave the people of a country, and this is their ultimate goal.

Yes, central banks. Basically this is what its all about in a nutshell but, this is like discussing calculus with someone who hasnt been past trig yet, waste of time and will be dismissed because they arnt privy to such talk.

[jtoler]

The fact that people think the US government needs "events" to goto war is comical.

The government does whatever it wants anyway.

So the government killed over 3000 people and orchestrated the hugest inside job/cover up in the universe just to gain support from the very people it was killing?

Sounds legit.....

Wars have to be approved, besides it wasnt just about war, it was about much more including changing the way you live forever not to mention having people in a constant state of fear makes it easier to take their so called freedoms away, kinda like the mob who burns down your building and comes back the next day offering protection at a fee also making it easier to invade just about any country on the basis of fighting terror, which is impossible and senseless in trying to fight, but its a genius notion that they came up with. The U.S. has aided and abetted many terror and political militias for over 60 years to help in revolutions, proxy wars, etc. So called fighting terror has so many advantages when it comes to "spreading democracy" and protecting Liberty.

[BigDofBA]

Yes, central banks. Basically this is what its all about in a nutshell but, this is like discussing calculus with someone who hasnt been past trig yet, waste of time and will be dismissed because they arnt privy to such talk.

So when are the world banks going to actually be set up if that was the end game? This happened almost 15 years ago. By the time the world banks get set up the people that planned it will be dead I guess.....

Also, People told me I was an idiot for believing what the media showed on TV and then these people use media clips to support their conspiracy theories....

Are those videos not graphical rendered too or are only select videos graphically rendered?

I'm clueless just trying to figure all of this out. Thanks in advance.

[jtoler]

There were wars in the Middle East a decade before 911. They didn't need 911 to goto war. They could have done it anyway.

Oh yeah, and there are probably more effective ways to deal with asbestos than blowing up two of the largest buildings in the world, killing over 3000 people, and losing billions of dollars in the process. Just a thought....

You also seem to think this was done to set up a world bank. Well 911 happened about 15 years ago and we still don't have a world bank. Are all the people that planned this massive inside job going to be dead by the time the bank is setup?

Lmao. These theories are so stupid.

He means central bank, as in the central bank in the U.S. is the Federal Reserve, almost all countries have one, the few that dont we have invaded or in the midst of conflict with. Its a Jewish thing, dont just think U.S. who are pawns are so powerful, Jews run the world.

[BigDofBA]

He means central bank, as in the central bank in the U.S. is the Federal Reserve, almost all countries have one, the few that dont we have invaded or in the midst of conflict with. Its a Jewish thing, dont just think U.S. who are pawns are so powerful, Jews run the world.

While I don't agree with you, I appreciate your civilized and logical approach to this conversation.

[MoeSedway]

Jewish lizards comprising less than .5% of the global population control EVERYTHING! You goyim really need to step your games up.

[TheMoneyShot]

So what are you saying happened? You don't think they were hijacked? You don't think they were real planes?

Do any of guys have friends in the military that have been overseas? Ask them for yourself what the people over there think of us.

We can dissect everything until the cows come home... and we'll never know exactly the point to all of this? What I'm 100% sure about... everything presented by the media isn't accurate. I think when president Bush makes a statement like "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September 11th." I find it quite odd that a president would even mention such a thing in a speech or press conference. If what went down on September 11th was 100% real and the truth... you wouldn't even mention such a drastic remark. Someone naturally prepared Bush's speech. They were already tipping their hand. You just don't say something like that... it's borderline ridiculous.

I mentioned this in another post weeks ago... I had a friend in the military back in 2002-2003. I can't remember if it was Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden... it was one of the two. It's been many years... and I simply can't remember exactly... when he told me this story. But here's exactly what happened... here's what he told me.

He said our squad had a direct shot at Hussein/Bin Laden. Clearest shot. They told their commander... we have a clear target waiting for you to give the order. The commander didn't answer the squad back. They announced it 3 times to their commander... we have a clear target waiting for you to give the order sir. The commander ordered... stand down and then they retreated.

He told me their entire mission... all they talked about was to kill the target. When they were told to stand down... he told me it was a complete blow to their psyche. They were so deflated.... some even questioned why they were out there?

Some military personnel believed they found the target "amazingly too quickly" it even surprised the commander. They said once they heard their commander's voice to stand down... they felt like they were being mislead by their own commander. Things didn't add up. They questioned each other as to... what are we fighting for? They wanted Hussein or Bin Laden to live longer. But why? There was a meaning to this... and no one could figure out why?

After the mission was over... my friend asked to be discharged from the military. He didn't care if he got a dishonorable discharge etc. He told me.. I'm not risking my life anymore when I achieved my mission and was told to stand down.

My friend's personality.... very brave... but controlled. Smart... doesn't tell stories or exaggerate. Actually would of made one hell of a Marine. We use to work together back when we were younger at a gym.

Ever since he told me this story... I believe everything is a business. Is this all staged? No. Innocent people die. They are pawns. Any time we go to war... it's not about our freedom. It's about some business deal. Has nothing to do with freedom.

[jtoler]

We can dissect everything until the cows come home... and we'll never know exactly the point to all of this? What I'm 100% sure about... everything presented by the media isn't accurate. I think when president Bush makes a statement like "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September 11th." I find it quite odd that a president would even mention such a thing in a speech or press conference. If what went down on September 11th was 100% real and the truth... you wouldn't even mention such a drastic remark. Someone naturally prepared Bush's speech. They were already tipping their hand. You just don't say something like that... it's borderline ridiculous.

I mentioned this in another post weeks ago... I had a friend in the military back in 2002-2003. I can't remember if it was Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden... it was one of the two. It's been many years... and I simply can't remember exactly... when he told me this story. But here's exactly what happened... here's what he told me.

He said our squad had a direct shot at Hussein/Bin Laden. Clearest shot. They told their commander... we have a clear target waiting for you to give the order. The commander didn't answer the squad back. They announced it 3 times to their commander... we have a clear target waiting for you to give the order sir. The commander ordered... stand down and then they retreated.

He told me their entire mission... all they talked about was to kill the target. When they were told to stand down... he told me it was a complete blow to their psyche. They were so deflated.... some even questioned why they were out there?

Some military personnel believed they found the target "amazingly too quickly" it even surprised the commander. They said once they heard their commander's voice to stand down... they felt like they were being mislead by their own commander. Things didn't add up. They questioned each other as to... what are we fighting for? They wanted Hussein or Bin Laden to live longer. But why? There was a meaning to this... and no one could figure out why?

After the mission was over... my friend asked to be discharged from the military. He didn't care if he got a dishonorable discharge etc. He told me.. I'm not risking my life anymore when I achieved my mission and was told to stand down.

My friend's personality.... very brave... but controlled. Smart... doesn't tell stories or exaggerate. Actually would of made one hell of a Marine. We use to work together back when we were younger at a gym.

Ever since he told me this story... I believe everything is a business. Is this all staged? No. Innocent people die. They are pawns. Any time we go to war... it's not about our freedom. It's about some business deal. Has nothing to do with freedom.

Yes your friend could have been part of the crew that participated in the story about how theyve had him and let him go. That could have happened more than once. He was more than likely dead many years before it was news that he was killed in Pakistan. Wasnt the "enemy" they portrayed him to be more like a CIA asset, they had people disguised as him to give fake videos that didnt fully resemble him, they admitted to that, but why do such if but not to perpetrate an ongoing lie.

[Ebe]

Some of you people here are fn morons. 4 planes were hijacked. We have video of planes flying into 3 of these places. When the shit is on videotape, and you still have people that don't believe it, then they are just blind idiots. I mean, what more proof do you need?

It was an amazing terrorist attack. Flawlessly and brilliantly pulled off. The hi-jackers took flight lessons for a reason. And the attack was fairly simple. Hi-jack planes, and steer them into large objects. And they pulled it off. End of story.

The only thing the US government could have done differently was shoot down the hijacked planes before they got to the towers. They did not do it - probably because they never believed the hijackers would actually fly them into those spots. Also, the fallout from shooting down a commercial airliner is something the US government would never want to carry the weight on.

Some things are just blatantly obvious that there's no need for a conspiracy theory. It really is, what it is. A group of Islamic terrorists (who have been committing terrorism against the US for DECADES now), attacked. And they attacked because their religion tells them to attack. And they'll continue to attack until we either convert them or kill them.

You're an idiot.

[jtoler]

You're an idiot.

To say the least.

[sourtwist]

While I don't agree with you, I appreciate your civilized and logical approach to this conversation.

You're a retard.

[Ebe]

Its time these people get what they deserve.

People who remain oblivious after all this are a disgrace to humanity and the reason plots like this ultimately succeed.

You're a weakness and a liability. Its shameful.

[Bustedu]

Its time these people get what they deserve.

People who remain oblivious after all this are a disgrace to humanity and the reason plots like this ultimately succeed.

You're a weakness and a liability. Its shameful.

I concur

[BigDofBA]

You're a retard.

You make yourself look bad everytime you make posts like this.

When you're not smart enough to discuss a topic with someone this is your rebuttal. It's pretty pathetic but somewhat expected.

[innovation]

" look into the security company in charge of the WTC complex, Securacom, and was more than a little surprised by the identities of two of its top executives.
President George W. Bush’s brother Marvin Bush and his cousin, Wirt Walker III, were both principals of the company. Further, he found this very same company was in charge of security at Dulles airport and United Airlines—both central to the attacks".



is this true?

[TheMoneyShot]

Yes your friend could have been part of the crew that participated in the story about how theyve had him and let him go. That could have happened more than once. He was more than likely dead many years before it was news that he was killed in Pakistan. Wasnt the "enemy" they portrayed him to be more like a CIA asset, they had people disguised as him to give fake videos that didnt fully resemble him, they admitted to that, but why do such if but not to perpetrate an ongoing lie.

That's why this is all a mystery. I just thought they wanted him alive? I thought maybe they were all friends? You stroke me... I'll stroke you. Not trying to make a joke about this... but it doesn't make any sense. Remember that footage of the burial at sea? Was that really a body being thrown overboard? Or just an empty crate? Perhaps he was killed many months prior?

Nothing makes any sense in what our govt does.

I'm sort of surprised that our govt doesn't tell youtube to take any type of 9/11 footage off the website.

[Ebe]

You make yourself look bad everytime you make posts like this.

When you're not smart enough to discuss a topic with someone this is your rebuttal. It's pretty pathetic but somewhat expected.

Hes only stating the truth. I see no shame in it at all.

[sourtwist]

I don't care what anyone thinks of me. I'm obviously ahead of the curve, you don't even know the curve exists.