GOD

[jtoler]

That's just from the head of the United Methodists.

They didn't use the word sin though - so I guess it doesn't count lol.

You didnt answer the question at all.

[Seaweed]

Happy Easter!

Christ has Risen!

[muldoon]

How is it a sin?

Unless you are trying to lose (at gambling) - I'd say it goes against Philippians 4:19. Wouldn't that make it a sin?

And yes, I realize it's an abstract concept. We might as well be arguing over how big Santa's sleigh needs to be.

But for the sake of you grown adults who cling to bronze age myths....

[muldoon]

[jtoler]

Unless you are trying to lose (at gambling) - I'd say it goes against Philippians 4:19. Wouldn't that make it a sin?

And yes, I realize it's an abstract concept. We might as well be arguing over how big Santa's sleigh needs to be.

But for the sake of you grown adults who cling to bronze age myths....

Still haven't answered, I've seen no one who says its a sin explain how, ever.

[muldoon]

Still haven't answered, I've seen no one who says its a sin explain how, ever.

How do you personally define sin?

[KVB]

In general, I would consider a sin anything that steers you, takes you, or distances you from God.

[brainfreeze]

How do you personally define sin?

Going against Gods law of love.. As Mr. KLC stated " the love " of money is a problem. There is no moral compass to define such standards with evolution though, just survival of the fittest " we're all just animals ", right ? No reasoning, love, sympathy, peace, this is a big problem, and any christian that accepts that should reevaluate what matters, men's word or Gods...


Is anything by chance ? When Peter was fishing as Jesus approached didn't Jesus say " I will make you a fisher of men " ? To us yes, it can seem by chance things happen, but those who know God, know there's no such thing to God as chance or a gamble, but we don't know things to come, why it's called fishing... and not catching. To Jesus it's just catching ... Why He told Peter cast your nets on the other side of the boat and what happened ? John 21:6 will tell you...

even though we don't get along to well, God loves you muldoon and so do I, and I mean that..

[raydog]

Happy Easter, Brainfreeze. God bless you as we celebrate the most unselfish act in the history of mankind. Its so good to know that the Lord loved us so much that he sacrificed his Son not just for us believers, but everyone, including all the posters on SBR that don't believe. Its so good to know that Jesus is preparing a place for all of us right now that have faith in him, and recognize him as our Savior. Praise God!

with all the other absurdities (impossibilities) that god supposedly performed, you guys actually believe this nonsense? you know why jesus died? its wasnt for his and our sins, its because there wasnt a damn thing god or anyone else could do to stop it... and the resurrection/sins story is just more irrational and unrealistic bible babble ... they built another irrational story around a circumstance that was beyond anyones control... how is it possible so many people believe in all the science fiction over and over again that is packed into one ancient book??? how scared were our illiterate ancestors to believe this stuff and pass it down through generations like its law? good grief its seriously mind boggling...

looking back to my post about ron hubbard, his theories about thetans and people living 75million yrs. ago are no more unrealistic than what you read and believe from the bible...

if god is what drives you to be good, my intent isnt to turn anyone away from their god ... not that you need a god to be good, but its to give you a perspective of how unrealistically you view everyday life because what you believe is so unrealistic... (scientific facts aside...not that they matter to the god fearing anyways)

[Mr KLC]

with all the other absurdities (impossibilities) that god supposedly performed, you guys actually believe this nonsense? you know why jesus died? its wasnt for his and our sins, its because there wasnt a damn thing god or anyone else could do to stop it... and the resurrection/sins story is just more irrational and unrealistic bible babble ... they built another irrational story around a circumstance that was beyond anyones control... how is it possible so many people believe in all the science fiction over and over again that is packed into one ancient book??? how scared were our illiterate ancestors to believe this stuff and pass it down through generations like its law? good grief its seriously mind boggling...

looking back to my post about ron hubbard, his theories about thetans and people living 75million yrs. ago are no more unrealistic than what you read and believe from the bible...

if god is what drives you to be good, my intent isnt to turn anyone away from their god ... not that you need a god to be good, but its to give you a perspective of how unrealistically you view everyday life because what you believe is so unrealistic... (scientific facts aside...not that they matter to the god fearing anyways)

Happy Easter, Raydog! The fact that The Bible has withstood time over centuries is a testament to me, in itself, that there is truly a God, as it still to this day, continues to transform lives. I have failed to see true fairy tales like "Cinderella", "The Gingerbread Man", and "Hansel and Gretel" affect peoples' lives, and bring such peace and comfort like the Lord's word does. We must open ourselves to the Lord to truly believe his Word, and let the Holy Spirit intervene. John 14:26 states, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."

You have the right to believe as you choose. No judgment by me. Through the Christian belief system, the Lord loves you equally, and Jesus made his sacrifice for you also, no matter how you feel about the Bible and God's plan. God does tell us about those that do not feel the holy spirit. 1 Corinthians 2:14, "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned." I pray that one day you will be able to see beyond the "folly", and truly feel the Holy Spirit, so you can see what does drive a Christian through faith in our Lord.

[rkelly110]

Just be glad you nay sayers are here in America where you have a choice to believe in the god of your choice
or not and have the freedom to even talk about such things. I'm sure boko haram guys would blast atheists also.

An atheist's view of God.

[KVB]

Happy Easter everybody. Never forget the reason for the season.

Luke 24:

…33And they got up that very hour and returned to Jerusalem, and found gathered together the eleven and those who were with them, 34saying, "The Lord has really risen and has appeared to Simon." 35They began to relate their experiences on the road and how He was recognized by them in the breaking of the bread.

[KVB]

36And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. 37But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. 38And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet. 41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? 42And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43And he took it, and did eat before them.

[KVB]

...We must open ourselves to the Lord to truly believe his Word, and let the Holy Spirit intervene. John 14:26 states, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."

You have the right to believe as you choose. No judgment by me. Through the Christian belief system, the Lord loves you equally, and Jesus made his sacrifice for you also, no matter how you feel about the Bible and God's plan. God does tell us about those that do not feel the holy spirit. 1 Corinthians 2:14, "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned." I pray that one day you will be able to see beyond the "folly", and truly feel the Holy Spirit, so you can see what does drive a Christian through faith in our Lord.

Beautifully presented truth here.

Happy Easter KLC, God Bless.

[Mr KLC]

Beautifully presented truth here.

Happy Easter KLC, God Bless.

U2 sir.

[bobbywaves]

Just be glad you nay sayers are here in America where you have a choice to believe in the god of your choice
or not and have the freedom to even talk about such things. I'm sure boko haram guys would blast atheists also.

An atheist's view of God.

Some solid points from guy in video:

1) "Atheists are self centered & live for themselves."
2) "It's very difficult to be an atheist when you're living on your death bed. Because you begin to think, what if these people are right?"

It's amazing how non believers dismiss all near death experiences, especially from well educated folks like this guy. Thousands of well respected people all must be lying right?

Happy Easter.

[muldoon]

Some solid points from guy in video:

1) "Atheists are self centered & live for themselves."
2) "It's very difficult to be an atheist when you're living on your death bed. Because you begin to think, what if these people are right?"


It's amazing how non believers dismiss all near death experiences, especially from well educated folks like this guy. Thousands of well respected people all must be lying right?

Not necessarily lying, but interpreting biochemical activity in the brain as a real out of body experience.

The experience of having a god-like presence next to you can be created quite easily in a laboratory setting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O_aGlm9QjU

Having thousands of people believe something without a proper way of measuring or testing, doesn't make it real. If it did, would you suddenly believe scientology tomorrow if it was announced they now have a billion believers?

There are millions of children who believe in the Easter Bunny.

[xdodger19]

atheists pretty much have one play in their playbook, they try to associate their denial of God with the intellect.
That's all they do. Atheists rarely explain what they actually believe because they are like children, they think life is a game.
atheists by necessity believe that mud comes to life on its own. An atheist would reply to this statement by saying 'no, thats not what we believe you are stupid" Atheist response to everything is to try to correct you on how you used some word wrong, or lack education, or that your argument is a strawman."
When it comes to evolution, atheists will use this very simple tactic
1. they will lie and claim evolution has something to do with science, the intellect and academics
2. they will call you stupid for not believing their lies
3 then they start over with the first lie
If you want to be saved you have to have faith in Jesus Christ,
I wouldn't play around listening to a bunch of jesters.

If I know one thing in life this is it, right here.

[brainfreeze]

The experience of having a god-like presence next to you can be created quite easily in a laboratory setting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O_aGlm9QjU

All types of things can happen when something in the brain is manipulated or altered one way or another, take this test or lsd, doesn't change the fact that people literally see their bodies on operating tables after real life tragedies .. No drugs or manipulation involved, trying to say these people can mirror these events is untrue.

[raydog]

atheists pretty much have one play in their playbook, they try to associate their denial of God with the intellect.
That's all they do. Atheists rarely explain what they actually believe because they are like children, they think life is a game.
atheists by necessity believe that mud comes to life on its own. An atheist would reply to this statement by saying 'no, thats not what we believe you are stupid" Atheist response to everything is to try to correct you on how you used some word wrong, or lack education, or that your argument is a strawman."
When it comes to evolution, atheists will use this very simple tactic
1. they will lie and claim evolution has something to do with science, the intellect and academics
2. they will call you stupid for not believing their lies
3 then they start over with the first lie
If you want to be saved you have to have faith in Jesus Christ,
I wouldn't play around listening to a bunch of jesters.

If I know one thing in life this is it, right here.

Congrats bf, you have another young pawn who believes in the impossible because his parents and grandparents told him to do so and threaten him with hell..Lolz... Xdodger, I wouldn't call you stupid for not believing the same thing as me.. No atheist would... You are referred to as a gullible sheep because you believe in absurdities that are 100% impossible... And you disregard facts on the earths age, fossils and evolution .. It's okay, go pray for good things to come to you while I go out and earn and take what I feel I deserve... We will see who ends up with what ... You are another obnoxious Christian who looks down on people because they don't believe the same Unproven and unrealistic absurdities found in an ancient book... It's seriously comical how some of you declare God and the bible as law instead of the absurd theory that it really is

[muldoon]

atheists pretty much have one play in their playbook, they try to associate their denial of God with logic.

There ya go.

Back to praying for parlay winners while 1/3 of the world goes to bed worried that a mosquito or their drinking water will kill their kids.

[keddefi]

I'd rather live my whole life believing in God and then die to find out He doesn't exist than the other way around.

[bigtymer56]

I'd rather live my whole life believing in God and then die to find out He doesn't exist than the other way around.

In that case, you should worship as many gods as possible...increase your odds of picking the right one.

Anyway whats the point of that since Gods all knowing? Figure he wouldnt be happy knowing your trying to bs your way into heaven.

[muldoon]

I'd rather live my whole life believing in God and then die to find out He doesn't exist than the other way around.

You don't consider the possibility that you spend your life believing in God...but then die and find out you worshiped him wrong?

You figure it's just a binary choice and that the fact that you believe is enough?

[brainfreeze]

In that case, you should worship as many gods as possible...increase your odds of picking the right one.

Anyway whats the point of that since Gods all knowing? Figure he wouldnt be happy knowing your trying to bs your way into heaven.

I actually agree with you here bigtymer, there's no cheating God, your only cheating yourself when one thinks like that. You have to walk the walk, and follow Christ.

[recon1]

This is a long video, but skim through this recon, tons of good info and books he recommends .. Treasure trove of info here, I really think talking like this to the masses made him a huge target for what has happened to him, to smart for his well being.. When it comes to the world and flesh..

I'll definitely go through video latter.

[recon1]

³¹ The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.

King James

As intelligent as some of the naysayers appear to be, they will never be able to read and comprhend the fulfillment of this verse, but will pick up a book of theories like Darwin or Hawkings and understand the complex thoughts they write. SHH

[ACoochy]

As intelligent as some of the naysayers appear to be, they will never be able to read and comprhend the fulfillment of this verse, but will pick up a book of theories like Darwin or Hawkings and understand the complex thoughts they write. SHH

Fact v Fiction

Theres your answer...

[brainfreeze]

You must be kidding right? I used the WikiPedia entry for him and many of the 219 footnotes included. If he is correctly quoted in those sources, then he verbally and directly contradicts Jesus' teachings.

I like his message, but not coming from him. I understand current Science, the Bible,and the current state of the New World Order to a more satisfactory degree than Hovind. I also don't consider him a very good spokesman for his many causes...if what I read is true, then I feel he gives those who fight for the truth a bad name.

And yes, he evades taxes and illegally classifies his possessions to directly contradict Jesus' teachings. I don't see how this can be an opinion.

I found this recently ... He adresses wiki, I believe he has a lawsuit against them.

[KVB]

Sorry to disappoint you Brainfreeze, but I didn't take very much from wikipedia itself; rather, I used footnotes and saw court documents themselves.

I've done all the research I care to on Hovind. He is not a follower of Christ's teachings. He uses my God as an excuse for illegal behavior and the Lord will have to deal with him.

It's a terrible shame so many "worship" this imbecile. He was even willing to sell out his supporters to maintain his lies.

On my own righteousness I can judge this man's actions in the same fashion I can judge the actions of Harold Camping.

C'mon Brainfreeze, issues with science, the constitution and government aside, surely you must be able to discern where this man goes afoul.

Hint: Is that God's picture on American money?

[brainfreeze]

Sorry to disappoint you Brainfreeze, but I didn't take very much from wikipedia itself; rather, I used footnotes and saw court documents themselves.

I've done all the research I care to on Hovind. He is not a follower of Christ's teachings. He uses my God as an excuse for illegal behavior and the Lord will have to deal with him.

It's a terrible shame so many "worship" this imbecile. He was even willing to sell out his supporters to maintain his lies.

On my own righteousness I can judge this man's actions in the same fashion I can judge the actions of Harold Camping.

C'mon Brainfreeze, issues with science, the constitution and government aside, surely you must be able to discern where this man goes afoul.

Hint: Is that God's picture on American money?

not going to argue, if that's the way you feel so be it.. I think the gov, has turned into a big scam, but hey only my opinion... Did you know that public officials didn't get paid back in the day... Now, the obamas go on million dollar vacations on our dime, but that's perfectly fine I guess, who's really stealing ?

There's no logic to anything they do, it's a complete joke... but here you are getting down on Kent for taking his own churches money out of the bank to pay bills in his mini van.... Unreal

[KVB]

not going to argue, if that's the way you feel so be it.. I think the gov, has turned into a big scam, but hey only my opinion... Did you know that public officials didn't get paid back in the day... Now, the obamas go on million dollar vacations on our dime, but that's perfectly fine I guess, who's really stealing ?

There's no logic to anything they do, it's a complete joke...

It's a horrible scam and understanding the basics of that scam would help you to understand that their is plenty of logic to decisions that they make. It is a joke, but there a reasons for an end. You misunderstand my stance and knowledge on this issue.

... but here you are getting down on Kent for taking his own churches money out of the bank to pay bills in his mini van.... Unreal

There is nothing true about that statement.

[brainfreeze]

It's a horrible scam and understanding the basics of that scam would help you to understand that their is plenty of logic to decisions that they make. It is a joke, but there a reasons for an end. You misunderstand my stance and knowledge on this issue.



There is nothing true about that statement.

Yeah, order out of chaos ... Let them have fun with that.. I'll still be praying they have a change of heart.

... Untrue ? What do you think he did with the money ?

[recon1]

Fact v Fiction

Theres your answer...

It's documented fact Jesus was here and the miracles he did, therefore we can reasonably understand God is who he says he is. On-the-other-hand, others claim life was created from nothing?
I'm sorry, did you make a lame attempt at making a point?
Big-bang and we had life from nothing! what a comedian!

[raydog]

It's documented fact Jesus was here and the miracles he did, therefore we can reasonably understand God is who he says he is. On-the-other-hand, others claim life was created from nothing?
I'm sorry, did you make a lame attempt at making a point?
Big-bang and we had life from nothing! what a comedian!

you should have a buddy write a book about you... call you a god... make up a bunch of absurd bullshit that is 100% impossible and then have you go into hiding... call it the bible 2.0 Recon Version ... it would be documented....so it would obviously all be true ... your book would hold as much water as the bible