GOD

[brainfreeze]

The link documents a guy who did exactly that, moved a 19,200 lb block by himself.... http://www.theforgottentechnology.com

This guy talks about some 25 year project to replica the pyramids, using physics ... I'd love to see the outcome.

Some similarities appear on the surface between humans and bees, but you can find a few similarities between us and any lifeform i imagine. We and bees have fundamental differences in how we function; the degree of specialization in these kinds of insects makes meaningful gender-based observations impossible.

First your saying no, now your saying yes... to a degree. Gender based observation impossible ? Ask a bee keeper, tesla states exactly how it works.. to a T, I know someone who harvested honey. How they pick their males and queens, everything Tesla stated is on point and correct, and I believe Tesla's prediction is on point, nothing new there.

"More and more" is an appropriate quantification, in that it neatly fails to mention that it's still a tiny minority and almost certainly not growing faster than the opposing view. When you decided arbitrarily that you don't need proof cause you know the truth, you're simply choosing to remain ignorant, no other way to describe it.

What do you mean I don't need proof ? Everything I tell you, you will relate it to my mind playing tricks, neuron functions, random coincidences and so fourth. You rather BELIEVE, what modern scientist tell you to be fact, when their facts change all the time.

Yup, bible has no predictive abilities. It had present knowledge, back when we didn't have any...and it should b left with the rest of our superstitions now that we understand the reasons for things and we don't need to just say "sky dude did it".

Yes it does, what do you think revelations is about ? or when Gods son 2nd coming will be ? The isle of Patmos where John had these VISIONS..and your excusing the facts again, does those words relate to time/beginning, heavens/space, and earth/matter ?

There's a reason people convert to religion as a coping mechanism when coming off drugs or other impulse-control problems, and it's related to the cognitive defects I keep mentioning and you keep ignoring. As these things are part of our DNA, I'm also sure people will continue to convert, and for some people, these delusions might be the only way they can function. If so, and that's what they need to control their impulses, more power to em...but let's not pretend that there's any useful reason for rational people without those problems to believe the supernatural nonsense instead of thinking for themselves.

Every single person in the world has a problem trip, no one is perfect, the quest becomes ridding ourselves of these mistakes, and on that mission we tend to find the source that relieves us of the burden... Christ, you see all this as nonsense, but yet you haven't proved God doesn't exist.. Never will, through faith, He will reveal when and if your interested...

No need to ask you about Jesus, since you and I both have access to the same sources on him...and I have no desire to hang out with anyone who's pals with the christian god, slaughterer of innocents and bringer of suffering.

That's fine, I would not mind hanging out with anyone here, play some cards, have a conversation or this type of thing. God is not the bringer of suffering trip, place blame correctly, that was lucifer and man, we do a good job of that on our own.

[bigtymer56]

I need some more background on these giants. Where did they come from? Why did they die off? I always thought when they referred to giants it was motherfuckers like Lebron James size running around not actual giants.

Just when I thought this shit couldnt get any crazier.

[Triple_D_Bet]

That's fine, I would not mind hanging out with anyone here, play some cards, have a conversation or this type of thing. God is not the bringer of suffering trip, place blame correctly, that was lucifer and man, we do a good job of that on our own.

Rebuilding the pyramids with his techniques would finally settle the question for those who don't believe the math, but in the end, it's easier to use equipment I think, or better yet to build using modern techniques!

Were you talking about bee behavior alone? Then yeah, they act more or less like that to my knowledge...thought you were trying to compare their specialized roles to gender biases in humans.

I'd rather believe science because it doesn't ask me to believe "just cause", as the bible does. The facts I'm referencing don't change significantly...i'm not talking about big bang here, im talking about specific mental processes which are well understood. And yes, if you tell me you thought something which has no proof to back it up, I'm forced to conclude that your brain simply misled you, as our brains have been proven to do.

It has no predictive power; it said some stuff was going to happen, yet it hasn't happened; in no way is that "predictive".

Nobody's perfect for sure. Correct, I haven't "proven" god doesn't exist, in the same way you haven't "proven" that God isn't a teacup, or a flying spaghetti monster. Does that mean you should worship him over tea and pasta? Or perhaps we should tend to believe things that are highly likely to be true, instead of imagining things with enough loopholes that they can't be proven true or false?

God is all-powerful and all-knowing, yet he not only allows suffering, he actively caused it, by killing his own people. This is straight from your only source...

[Triple_D_Bet]

I need some more background on these giants. Where did they come from? Why did they die off? I always thought when they referred to giants it was motherfuckers like Lebron James size running around not actual giants.

Just when I thought this shit couldnt get any crazier.

Good news: I'm starting a "church" that believes the biblical giants are of the San Francisco variety. Watch in amazement as scripture is reinterpreted to fulfill prophecies, and prove the existence of giants and therefore god! Marvel in the man-proves-what-man-wrote-by-making-stuff-up-therefore-god-is-real-edness of it all as you fill the collection plate and go through life not questioning what people tell you!

[brainfreeze]

I need some more background on these giants. Where did they come from? Why did they die off? I always thought when they referred to giants it was motherfuckers like Lebron James size running around not actual giants.

Just when I thought this shit couldnt get any crazier.

Genesis ch 6:2-

2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3And YAHWEH said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Job 1:6

6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before YAHWEH, and Satan came also among them.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Genesis ch 6:2-

2That the sons of California saw the daughters of California (and some of the sons too, not that there's anything wrong with that) that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose (complying with all applicable yes means yes laws, couple of world series rings helped too). 3And YAHWEH said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years....statistically equal to 72 San Fran world series titles.
4There were giants in the earth in those days (and also 49ers, but they didn't always do so well); and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown, but first toiled mightily through minor leagues before being found worthy.

Job 1:6

6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before YAHWEH, and Satan came also among them disguised as a steroids dealer.

Holy shit...that stuff I wrote is true! Prophecy! God is real!

[raydog]

That's fine, I would not mind hanging out with anyone here, play some cards, have a conversation or this type of thing. God is not the bringer of suffering trip, place blame correctly, that was lucifer and man, we do a good job of that on our own.

god doesnt bring suffering? tell that to the god fearing women who give birth to diseased/cancer kids who will live in immense pain for the very short time they are here and leave their mother/parents in suicidal shambles... the devil isnt creating cancer kids, buddy .. gods way of controlling population? tell that fukker to spend more time in china and india

we can go over this and over this, if god produces the good, then god is directly responsible for the bad, as well...

[brainfreeze]

god doesnt bring suffering? tell that to the god fearing women who give birth to diseased/cancer kids who will live in immense pain for the very short time they are here and leave their mother/parents in suicidal shambles... the devil isnt creating cancer kids, buddy .. gods way of controlling population? tell that fukker to spend more time in china and india

we can go over this and over this, if god produces the good, then god is directly responsible for the bad, as well...

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/246061.php

According to the researchers, by 2030, the number of cancer cases are expected to increase by 78% in medium HDI countries, such as China, India, and South Africa, and by 93% in low HDI countries.

The question is why ? Why are people blaming this stuff on the parents, saying it's " genetics ". A big cop-out if I ever heard one... Cancer has been increasing over the years, why ? Do you think it has something to do with the way we live our lives, what we eat, and what goes into our bodies or it's our parents fault ?

[brainfreeze]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/246061.php
According to the researchers, by 2030, the number of cancer cases are expected to increase by 78% in medium HDI countries, such as China, India, and South Africa, and by 93% in low HDI countries.

The question is why ? Why are people blaming this stuff on the parents, saying it's " genetics ". A big cop-out if I ever heard one... Cancer has been increasing over the years, why ? Do you think it has something to do with the way we live our lives, what we eat, and what goes into our bodies or it's our parents fault ?

O ... Don't forget the number cause of pain in general... SIN,

[raydog]

there is so much that causes disease... bad genes and the food/drinks we intake are just part of it...if you dont think bad genes/potential for disease can be passed down, you are quite uneducated on the topic

you will have to go into more detail about "the way we live our lives" ... is that part of what we eat/drink and if we stay fit or whatever? or if you mean the way we live our lives morally/spiritually .. that make sense? my sentence structuring is awful

i was poking fun about china and india... they need to learn what birth control is all about... they are the largest populated and live in some of the worst conditions .. the air in parts of china should kill half of them off... as is the dirty ass water all around them...

my girlfriends cousin is married to the son of the president of vietnam... we are going to visit for a month this summer... ive never been and want to see some of whats still considered 3rd world... i know there are many places with no electricity and people live off the land..etc.. we will travel around to a few places and beaches, but will be staying in the best hotels that her family owns or staying in family houses on private estates... i would rather not be pampered 24/7 and would like to get out and see a lot of the wild... i dont know why i brought that up, i just got to thinking about how much poverty/disease there still is everywhere

[The Kraken]

Sharing a common ancestor does not mean one species morphs into another or evolves to another

It simply means that go far enough back and we have a common ancestor with that other particular species

Go all the way back and we all share the same common ancestor and it isn't the big guy upstairs

But if you're sitting around waiting for a fruit fly to transform into a fire breathing dragon, I hope you got a comfy seat.

[The Kraken]

I would love for you science guys to explain how my mother sees visions ALL THE TIME, she can walk right past a individual, and tell them something about what's dear to them, a complete stranger, please... I would love explanation, I've seen her do it with my own eyes.

Always consider the source

[brainfreeze]

Always consider the source

I have ... God. Are you trying to be disrespectful here, or what ?

[brainfreeze]

there is so much that causes disease... bad genes and the food/drinks we intake are just part of it...if you dont think bad genes/potential for disease can be passed down, you are quite uneducated on the topic

Im not saying there is NO case that's genetic, but to relate all the ones they do to mutations, is a scam.

you will have to go into more detail about "the way we live our lives" ... is that part of what we eat/drink and if we stay fit or whatever? or if you mean the way we live our lives morally/spiritually .. that make sense? my sentence structuring is awful

Both... Why do you think people fast ? Clean the body, your closer to God, you can think clearer on a healthy diet as well. I believe Tesla lived off cereal, milk, water, egg whites, carrots, broccoli, a few potatoes and maybe a few other veggies I'm unaware of... No stimulants ... Coffee,tobacco, dr.pepper, none of that... I personally want to try a Mediterranean diet..

i was poking fun about china and india... they need to learn what birth control is all about... they are the largest populated and live in some of the worst conditions .. the air in parts of china should kill half of them off... as is the dirty ass water all around them...

Well, what I stated is just the truth of the situation, wanted to share that... If people could live healthier lives with healthier choices, instead of what we are accustomed to, I'm sure there wouldn't be as much death as today. We are to hooked on processed foods, sugars, and a lot of other unhealthy addictions...

my girlfriends cousin is married to the son of the president of vietnam... we are going to visit for a month this summer... ive never been and want to see some of whats still considered 3rd world... i know there are many places with no electricity and people live off the land..etc.. we will travel around to a few places and beaches, but will be staying in the best hotels that her family owns or staying in family houses on private estates... i would rather not be pampered 24/7 and would like to get out and see a lot of the wild... i dont know why i brought that up, i just got to thinking about how much poverty/disease there still is everywhere

Have fun.. but maybe take the time out of one day while your there to visit the poor, eat what they eat, see what they see, maybe even pick one to give a few bucks to, talk or because of language barrier just have interaction with regular folks... Watch the joy you bring them, and in return it brings you.

...

[muldoon]

Good news: I'm starting a "church" that believes the biblical giants are of the San Francisco variety. Watch in amazement as scripture is reinterpreted to fulfill prophecies, and prove the existence of giants and therefore god!

Sunday July 2, 2006 For it is written (in the souvenir program) that the Giants will show their might not once, not twice, but 3 times of their southern lesser rival.


Giants beat the Padres 6-2 (3 x the false prophet "Padre")


Each of these positions found within PI correspond to a year that the Giants won the World Series.
Position: 5364, 1618, 1733, 13811, 6029, 1009, 7200, 3133


All those numbers add up to 39897.


39897 was the attendance Sunday July 2, 2006 when the Giants beat the Pads 6-2.

PROOF MUTHERFU****S!

Plus I found a biologist who caught 2 foul balls off Barry Bonds in one game in 2000 - and he says that's impossible without divine intervention (and a big sign that says "50% Off Balco Coupon Here"). So more proof there.

Oh...and yeah doubters...that's Tesla in a Giants hat. So there!

[raydog]

i agree that not all bad genes get passed... and i agree about the food and shit we put in our bodies.... but fasting is one of the worst things you can possibly do to yourself... you want to be cleaned out, drink a jug of golytle and shit for a day... fasting puts too much stress on your organs and heart muscles... not to mention you are depriving yourself of nutrients you need in order to function properly...

i dunno how people think it brings you closer to god... must be a god fearing church thing... but if someone tells you to punish your body in order get closer to god, punch them in the face for not having a fukking clue about nutrition ... i guess you would say its a small sacrifice to make, but its just another one of those irrational bible/church things that makes people feel like they are doing something good, when all they are doing is starving their body of what it needs in order to function properly ... just my .02c on that

i plan on doing a lot of street walking and hanging out at the street markets and stuff... a lot of interesting people and stuff to be seen there... everyone gets around on scooters or motorcycles and unfortunately, since most drink, there are a ton of deaths from 2 wheel accidents... they dont have that many red lights in some places too.. that doesnt help .. but yeah, im going to soak in the culture from a few different places so i can get a better understanding of where the gf was raised and all that good stuff

[Triple_D_Bet]

Sunday July 2, 2006 For it is written (in the souvenir program) that the Giants will show their might not once, not twice, but 3 times of their southern lesser rival.


Giants beat the Padres 6-2 (3 x the false prophet "Padre")


Each of these positions found within PI correspond to a year that the Giants won the World Series.
Position: 5364, 1618, 1733, 13811, 6029, 1009, 7200, 3133


All those numbers add up to 39897.


39897 was the attendance Sunday July 2, 2006 when the Giants beat the Pads 6-2.

PROOF MUTHERFU****S!

Plus I found a biologist who caught 2 foul balls off Barry Bonds in one game in 2000 - and he says that's impossible without divine intervention (and a big sign that says "50% Off Balco Coupon Here"). So more proof there.

Oh...and yeah doubters...that's Tesla in a Giants hat. So there!

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Well played sir, well played

[jtoler]

i agree that not all bad genes get passed... and i agree about the food and shit we put in our bodies.... but fasting is one of the worst things you can possibly do to yourself... you want to be cleaned out, drink a jug of golytle and shit for a day... fasting puts too much stress on your organs and heart muscles... not to mention you are depriving yourself of nutrients you need in order to function properly...

i dunno how people think it brings you closer to god... must be a god fearing church thing... but if someone tells you to punish your body in order get closer to god, punch them in the face for not having a fukking clue about nutrition ... i guess you would say its a small sacrifice to make, but its just another one of those irrational bible/church things that makes people feel like they are doing something good, when all they are doing is starving their body of what it needs in order to function properly ... just my .02c on that

When are you gonna just stop and thats exactly what it does. You pray while you fast. If one can withstand not eating any fleshly shortcoming can be overcome, all through the power of God.

[brainfreeze]

When are you gonna just stop and thats exactly what it does. You pray while you fast. If one can withstand not eating any fleshly shortcoming can be overcome, all through the power of God.

I like his post, but this is what I would've added... He did allude to it by saying a small sacrifice, but there's a spiritual, and there's a physical, The Messiah walked the dessert 40 days, no food... There's plenty of people that accomplish this feat, I haven't but inspired... The less one can take in physically by any means, food, buying stuff, stimulants, or whatever, the closer you can listen in the spiritual... It's dying to the flesh, and welcoming the Spirit. This is true.

[raydog]

so you guys think god recognizes when you starve yourself, on his behalf, and pray? and you think that if you can get passed the hunger pains the power of god can help you get through other stuff? (i know this answer, i was being sarcastic) you people rely on your god too much...when in fact, you are doing things all by yourself and giving away the credit....

i understand the theory behind the fast...apparently, its not a make or break exercise for entering heaven... does it give you an edge over others? is that the train of thought? or is it simply that fasters think that when they go through pain with god, they grow closer to him...something like that? and starving yourself and praying during this time has to be considered some sort of meditation, no? isnt that frowned upon? i would think that going as sin free as possible would be rewarded without doing possible serious harm to your body by the fast...

starve yourself to create the illusion that you are getting spiritually closer to an unproven god...if it floats your boat... i guess its better than the people that actually beat themselves across the back and shit... thats nutty stuff, but i guess to them, it serves a similar purpose

[muldoon]

No fasting for this devout Xian nutcase.

[raydog]

from a year ago....good read

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/calling_the_christian_right_soon_you_will_be_outnumbered_partner/

people around the world are becoming more rational and educated about what is proof and how the irrational god can never be proven

[brainfreeze]

Yes, most likely it's all a scam. It's all well and good for you to say there are tons of credible sources, but can you show me any? You have to admit, I can't really take your word for this stuff, when so many of the links you've shown have been easily disproven by the same google search used to find them.

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83016758/1894-10-11/ed-1/seq-2/#words=skulls+Montpellier+France&date1=1894&date2=1896&searchType=advanced&lccn=&proxdistance=5&state=&rows=20&ortext=&proxtext=&phrasetext=&andtext=montpellier+france+skulls&dateFilterType=yearRange&index=1

highlighted in red...

heres more...

http://www.sydhav.no/giants/newspapers.htm

[brainfreeze]

from a year ago....good read

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/25/calling_the_christian_right_soon_you_will_be_outnumbered_partner/

people around the world are becoming more rational and educated about what is proof and how the irrational god can never be proven

Not what this says...

http://www.gallup.com/poll/180347/three-quarters-americans-identify-christian.aspx

[Triple_D_Bet]

http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...rRange&index=1
highlighted in red...

heres more...
http://www.sydhav.no/giants/newspapers.htm

No scientific studies, no peer review...just the paper publishing something someone told them, from over a hundred years ago when science lacked the tools to quickly reject such claims, but most people knew them for the scams or speculation they were anyways. What you claim to be a "conspiracy" to make these remains disappear, most people recognize that there were almost certainly never any authentic remains to begin with

Not what this says...
http://www.gallup.com/poll/180347/th...christian.aspx

Aside from the tendency of polls to be constructed to find what they're looking for (and not be terribly objective about it), ray's poll results are specifically for younger respondents, representing the future of the country...whereas your linked poll is the population at large. I doubt anyone would deny that on avergae the US is still largely religious and largely Christian (especially if we're talking about what they claim they do instead of what they actually do), but it doesn't look like that's the trend for the future...thank god

[raydog]

yours is 18 and older and phone surveyed (and im going to assume they talked to a lot of very old people since they mentioned 50% were land line calls and more older people still believe in god too) .. obviously, the accurate number is lower due to where people that were called, live (inside certain demos for sure) and also people not wanting to be judged by someone else during a conversation ...dont laugh, its true...people that ask religious questions can come off very judgmental and make people quite uncomfortable... people also lie just because , to the masses, being a god fearing person seems like the more moral way to be...morals and god have nothing to do with one another, but to the god fearing simpletons, for some unearthly reason, it does

mine surveyed people 18-35

big difference... i dont really care or take much from either article/survey , not enough people and again, people lie... i just thought it was interesting how the more people learn , the more they stray away from the god theory ... too many unanswered prayers and lack of answers for bad things happening to good people, i guess.. actually, science is doing the proving ... people are just waking up

[brainfreeze]

No scientific studies, no peer review...just the paper publishing something someone told them, from over a hundred years ago when science lacked the tools to quickly reject such claims, but most people knew them for the scams or speculation they were anyways. What you claim to be a "conspiracy" to make these remains disappear, most people recognize that there were almost certainly never any authentic remains to begin with


A turning point of the court case was when a 1.3 meter long human femur bone was shown as evidence in court of the existence of such giant human bones. The evidence came as a blow to the Smithsonian’s lawyers as the bone had been stolen from the Smithsonian by one of their high level curators in the mid 1930′s who had kept the bone all his life and which had admitted on his deathbed in writing of the undercover operations of the Smithsonian.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smithsonian-admits-to-destruction-of-thousands-of-giant-human-skeletons-in-early-1900s/

Boom...:-)

Aside from the tendency of polls to be constructed to find what they're looking for (and not be terribly objective about it), ray's poll results are specifically for younger respondents, representing the future of the country...whereas your linked poll is the population at large. I doubt anyone would deny that on avergae the US is still largely religious and largely Christian (especially if we're talking about what they claim they do instead of what they actually do), but it doesn't look like that's the trend for the future...thank god

I'll wait until the 18-30 year olds grow up a bit.... Then ask them again, I'm sure it will be the same if not more better results then the poll I showed...

[brainfreeze]

This deserves a double post.... Double BOOM!!

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smithsonian-admits-to-destruction-of-thousands-of-giant-human-skeletons-in-early-1900s/

[brainfreeze]

This deserves a double post.... Double BOOM!!

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smit...n-early-1900s/

This was to easy, something has to be up here, though this site can post some off the wall stuff, the article could be a hoax. I've found nothing yet, that relates to this by some absolute credible source...but what is these days ? The gov ? Lol.... Let's ask snowden

[zizoudane10]

This deserves a double post.... Double BOOM!!

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/smit...n-early-1900s/

This was to easy, something has to be up here, though this site can post some off the wall stuff, the article could be a hoax. I've found nothing yet, that relates to this by some absolute credible source...but what is these days ? The gov ? Lol.... Let's ask snowden

It is a satirical website, as stated in their own disclaimer.... "WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, dead, or undead is purely a miracle."

[Pareto]

[Pareto]

This was to easy, something has to be up here, though this site can post some off the wall stuff, the article could be a hoax. I've found nothing yet, that relates to this by some absolute credible source...but what is these days ? The gov ? Lol.... Let's ask snowden

You should use this logic when you read the bible.

[rkelly110]

Discussions like this and politics is why you should never discuss either with family and friends of opposing views.

You can talk 'til you're blue in the face or your fingers fall off, you will never change the other person's view on the
subject.

I believe the son of God, a man named Jesus, came to this earth to save us all from ourselves. All we have to do
is believe in him to have everlasting life. In a few short weeks, we will be mourning the death of our saviour.

It can be proven there was a Jesus. Though the spoken words from him cannot be.

[muldoon]

It is a satirical website, as stated in their own disclaimer.... "WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website – even those based on real people – are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, dead, or undead is purely a miracle."

Worldnewsdaily - similar font and layout to Worldnetdaily (which is frequented by the religious and conspiracy nuts. So it make sense it fooled BF). Took a 10 second google search on "smithsonian giant lawsuit" and the 2nd link (after the SATIRE website worldnewsdaily) was Snopes.

No surprise that the folks who can't let go of myths will be duped by satire websites. Due diligence is not exactly a requirement.

Boom...indeed.

[brainfreeze]

You should use this logic when you read the bible.

http://powerpointparadise.com/blog/2014/10/giants-allowed-smithsonian-institute-disappeared-history-reported-old-news/

I don't think it's that funny, when you think it could possibly be true... Only ones duped, is the ones believing giants never existed ...

theres like 20 websites carrying that story, and today is the age of deception, so there you have it... I believe the Bible, that won't change. I guess the New York Times and the smithsonian are in to jokes right ? ...