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[Seaweed]

Brainfreeze, Did Jesus leave us a bible or a Church?

Did Jesus tell anyone to write amything down?

What Did Christians use the first 300 years ?

If the Holy Spirit guides Protestant interpretation of the Bible why are there 35,000 denominations all claiming to have the Holy Spirit guiding them?

[zizoudane10]

Took my best friend on the whole wide world on saturday. Took both his parents when he was just a child as well. Fukk him/her/it. But yeah, of course he had a reason and the ways of the Lord are full of love. Go fukk you. I'm glad that my beloved bro doesn't have to meet this asshole.

[bobbywaves]

Took my best friend on the whole wide world on saturday. Took both his parents when he was just a child as well. Fukk him/her/it. But yeah, of course he had a reason and the ways of the Lord are full of love. Go fukk you. I'm glad that my beloved bro doesn't have to meet this asshole.

If your buddy was the same non believing hater as you, he didn't meet Him. But perhaps one day you'll see your buddy again in Hell.

[bigtymer56]

If your buddy was the same non believing hater as you, he didn't meet Him. But perhaps one day you'll see your buddy again in Hell.

Jesus wouldnt say that.

[zizoudane10]

If your buddy was the same non believing hater as you, he didn't meet Him. But perhaps one day you'll see your buddy again in Hell.

Perhaps I'll come to the next bash and beat you little pussy to a pulp. Or maybe I won't and that is fiction as well. Guess we'll wait and see.

[zizoudane10]

Jesus wouldnt say that.

Too dumb to understand his own religion.

[raydog]

this dumbfukk cracks me up...

we dont need healthcare... let the lord do the healing... even the dumbest of the dumb can see the contradiction in the verse that he quotes... uh, but there are no contradictions in the bible, right? good grief

[statnerds]

we dont need healthcare... let the lord do the healing... even the dumbest of the dumb can see the contradiction in the verse that he quotes... uh, but there are no contradictions in the bible, right? good grief

bible actually has less than the koran, which would qualify it and islam as an even bigger work of fiction. naturally when you inform people that the koran unabashedly stole verse from both the torah and the bible, you meet some resistance. until we stamp out all the fairy tales, thousands will continue to be killed by people proving how forgiving and loving their religion is

[Ra77er]

What if God was one of us

[muldoon]

What if God was one of us

He wouldn't have been posting Friday or Saturday past

[Ra77er]

[Vegas39]

What if God was one of us

He hates the Braves too

[brainfreeze]

Too dumb to understand his own religion.

He's catholic ... Forgive him, he's blind ... I'm sorry he said that to you..

[Ra77er]

I hope Brainfreeze has a wiki page that proves you wrong vEGAS 39!!!

[Ra77er]

I'm sure there is scripture out there that clearly states God is indeed 100% Atlanta Braves fan.....I mean what else would explain all these moves lately huh??

[Vegas39]

I'm sure there is scripture out there that clearly states God is indeed 100% Atlanta Braves fan.....I mean what else would explain all these moves lately huh??

that your front office run by seaweeds cousins

[brainfreeze]

Brainfreeze, Did Jesus leave us a bible or a Church?

Did Jesus tell anyone to write amything down?

What Did Christians use the first 300 years ?

If the Holy Spirit guides Protestant interpretation of the Bible why are there 35,000 denominations all claiming to have the Holy Spirit guiding them?

1.Both

2. Idk, but some of the apostles were scribes so it's only natural to write, then " letters to the Romans " and so fourth only solidify that.

3. The Dead Sea scrolls has been around way before 300 years, also the " letters " the apostles wrote and their gospels, Idk where people get 300, maybe that's when they were all put together.

4. We are all sinners, we deserve hell, if we let Christ into our heart, confess our sins, He is just to forgive them, and one will be gifted the Holy Sprit to help guide on a path of walking with Jesus. These denominations come in when man splits a verse, one verse to mean this or that, so you can just say that's 30k of debates that went a stray, if they hold Jesus in their heart sincerely, if they follow His teachings to the best of their ability, and keep searching out truth in their walk, they will come to the truth, God is every where.

[raydog]

Brainfreeze, Did Jesus leave us a bible or a Church?

Did Jesus tell anyone to write amything down?

What Did Christians use the first 300 years ?

If the Holy Spirit guides Protestant interpretation of the Bible why are there 35,000 denominations all claiming to have the Holy Spirit guiding them?

weeder, do you believe what the pope believes? that the big bang and evolution are fact, they just needed God in order to be achieved? it makes little to no sense and really just sounds like an excuse after being presented with facts, but is this theory one that you believe? i know its not what bf/rec/mrklc and the others believe...its a shame that people, who believe in the same god, cant get along sometimes... another instance of where you were born/raised and what your parents/Gparents believing playing the key role in what you believe

[brainfreeze]

Paul wrote 70% of the New Testament, He was a Jew that turned to Christ after a vision, and we know he didn't write " through the Holy Spirit " scripture 300 years later... This was immediate, maybe 45-60 AD, and the Dead Sea scrolls have been around in the BC ... So I guess when people say 300 years, they're actually talking about when the scriptures were combined ..

[brainfreeze]

weeder, do you believe what the pope believes? that the big bang and evolution are fact, they just needed God in order to be achieved?

Again, another catholic.... Do some research raydog, there is a reason why they slaughtered real christians. There is a reason they are allowing muslim prayers and singing in their walls.. I do not judge every soul apart of their org. but it's plain to see they're dysfunctional ..

[bobbywaves]

Perhaps I'll come to the next bash and beat you little pussy to a pulp. Or maybe I won't and that is fiction as well. Guess we'll wait and see.

You do that chump, looking forward to it.

[bobbywaves]

He's catholic

Correct, I surely don't need forgiveness from atheists or yourself.

[Triple_D_Bet]

Perhaps I'll come to the next bash and beat you little pussy to a pulp. Or maybe I won't and that is fiction as well. Guess we'll wait and see.

I'd volunteer to announce, but I couldn't keep a straight face when I got to the "...and in this corner..." bit

Again, another catholic.... Do some research raydog, there is a reason why they slaughtered real christians. There is a reason they are allowing muslim prayers and singing in their walls.. I do not judge every soul apart of their org. but it's plain to see they're dysfunctional ..

Religions bashing other religions is the institution's biggest redeeming feature imo...the entertainment value of each side trying to win an argument without facts is just mind-boggling, like a train wreck you can't look away from and can feel better about yourself because you're smarter than that. Ironic in that religion seems to be clung to out of a desire to feel superior (whether they call it that or not), but I don't feel too bad about feeling superior if it can be proven...I feel like that's a pretty reasonable thing to be proud of.

this dumbfukk cracks me up...

we dont need healthcare... let the lord do the healing... even the dumbest of the dumb can see the contradiction in the verse that he quotes... uh, but there are no contradictions in the bible, right? good grief

No contradictions ray; it very specifically says god promised not to bring the plagues he brought on the Egyptians....god chose to heal his people by conveniently not doing the stuff nobody could prove he did. A deity who proves himself by not performing supernatural events? Q.E.D!

Even the Simpsons copied his idea, more proof:

[bigtymer56]

this dumbfukk cracks me up...

we dont need healthcare... let the lord do the healing... even the dumbest of the dumb can see the contradiction in the verse that he quotes... uh, but there are no contradictions in the bible, right? good grief

That video made me immediately think of this:

What you get when you mash up Carl Sagan and this guy.

[Seaweed]

1.Both

2. Idk, but some of the apostles were scribes so it's only natural to write, then " letters to the Romans " and so fourth only solidify that.

3. The Dead Sea scrolls has been around way before 300 years, also the " letters " the apostles wrote and their gospels, Idk where people get 300, maybe that's when they were all put together.

4. We are all sinners, we deserve hell, if we let Christ into our heart, confess our sins, He is just to forgive them, and one will be gifted the Holy Sprit to help guide on a path of walking with Jesus. These denominations come in when man splits a verse, one verse to mean this or that, so you can just say that's 30k of debates that went a stray, if they hold Jesus in their heart sincerely, if they follow His teachings to the best of their ability, and keep searching out truth in their walk, they will come to the truth, God is every where.

LOL 0/4 as predicted.
Thanks for proving my points that when interpretation is left up to man, their ego will take over and it will lead to contradictions in interpretations and divisions.

"Understanding this first: That no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation. For prophecy came not by the will of man at any time: but holy men of God spoke, inspired by the Holy Spirit." -Peter 1:20-21

"You shall not do as we are now doing; here, everyone does what seems right to himself..."
Deuteronomy 12:8

"They came and said to him, “Teacher, we know that you are a truthful man and that you are not concerned with anyone's opinion. You do not regard a person’s status but teach the way of God in accordance with the truth..."
Matthew 22:16, Mark 12:14,

And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (19) And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven." (Matthew 16: 13-18)

The above verses are a prime example of personal opinions contrasted with doctrinal truth. GOD is not concerned with anyone's personal opinion, but only for those who speak His doctrinal truth.

Simon Peter was the only one to receive this revelation from GOD, and in so doing he was the only one to express the truth, by GOD given authority. Since GOD never changes, who would have the audacity to be so bold as to deny that GOD does the same today as He did then, by giving His one representative of authority on earth the fullness of doctrinal truth?

The Catholic Church has remained UNDIVIDED for 2,000 years as any Church of Christ would. It is the one True Church of Jesus Christ that has remained unchanged.

"He who hears you, hears me; and he who rejects you, rejects me; and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me." Luke 10:16 That is authority.
Powerful words from the mouth of Jesus Christ to his disciples, the leaders of His Church.

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore he who resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment."-Romans 13:1-2

For the first hundred years Christians did not have a bible, they had the Church. People were illiterate and relied on ORAL teachings to hear the word and so Christianity spread not because of the bible which didnt exist, but because of ORAL tradition. The bible is not sufficient alone.

Jesus left us His Church, he did not leave us a bible. The bible was put together by the Catholic Church. Without the Catholic Church you would not have the bible you read today. The Church put the books of the bible together at the Council of Hippo. For the first 1,000 years all Christians were Catholic. Any Protestant is making a PROTEST against the Church Jesus Christ founded. There are millions of "popes" in Protestantism, and all of them are running around claiming that their personal opinion regarding the interpretation of Scripture is the truth. Since GOD is one, with only one truth and with only one Holy Spirit, how could that one Spirit of truth be prompting those who have contradicting viewpoint?
1Corinthians 14:33, "For God is not the author of confusion..."

Answer this question: Where in the bible does it say that Sola Scriptura or Bible Alone without Tradition is sufficient? Quote me a verse from the bible that proves Sola Scriptura to be suffiient enough alone.

[Seaweed]

weeder, do you believe what the pope believes? that the big bang and evolution are fact, they just needed God in order to be achieved? it makes little to no sense and really just sounds like an excuse after being presented with facts, but is this theory one that you believe? i know its not what bf/rec/mrklc and the others believe...its a shame that people, who believe in the same god, cant get along sometimes... another instance of where you were born/raised and what your parents/Gparents believing playing the key role in what you believe

God is behind all of creation.

The Big Bang is a scientific theory that was proposed by a German priest who was a Catholic.

It is a theory.

The Catholic Church does not bind Catholics to believe how the Universe was created, only that they believe God was behind it. They are free to believe in Big Bang Theory or they do not have to. Both evolution and Big Bang are theories and not Catholic dogma. I personally believe in the Big Bang theory, but if I didn't, it wouldn't make me less Catholic. The Pope can have his personal views on many topics, but he is ONLY infallible when teaching issues on Faith and Morals. People often think the Church teaches that the Pope can't do wrong, but these are people who do not understand the Catholic Faith. Only when discussing issues on matters of faith and morals is the Pope infallible. Anyways, the Catholic belief is perfectly aligned with all Christians that God was behind the creation of the universe. I believe personally that God was the first uncaused cause that caused the Big Bang in order to bring about the universe. This is just a personal opinion and not official Catholic teaching. Refer to the Catechism of the Catholic Church for more clarification on this.

[raydog]

So, you still believe the earth is less than 10k yrs old? Give or take a few...

[Seaweed]

1. The man made concept of Sola Scriptura is anti-biblical. Where are the words "Sola Scriptura" and the verses describing it? I have searched for years, and no Protestant has been able to show me the verse(s) either. Hebrews 13:9
2. Private interpretation of Holy Scripture is anti-biblical. 2Peter 1:20
3. Support of abortion is anti-biblical. Exodus 20:13
4. Support of contraception is anti-biblical. Gen 38:9-10
5. The division of the Body of Christ is anti-biblical. John 10:16
6. Personal opinion rule is anti-biblical. Mark 12:14
7. Calumnizing another human person is anti-biblical. John 15:12
8. Calumnizing the Church which Jesus Christ founded is anti-biblical. 1Corinthians 15:9
9. Insulting and degrading the Mother of GOD is anti-biblical. Luke 1:48
10. Judging another person is anti-biblical. Luke 6:37
11. Failing to abide by the meaning of one is anti-biblical. Ephesians 4:1-6
12. Having female ministers is anti-biblical. John 15:16
13. Abiding by the opinions of men instead of the will of GOD is anti-biblical. Acts 5:29
14. Failing to accept the truth when presented to them is anti-biblical. Romans 1:18,2:8
15. Failing to search for the truth is anti-biblical. Romans 2:8
16. Lying in false attacks against the Catholic Church is anti-biblical. Ex 20:16, Rev 21:27
17. Holding to the Sabbath as some Protestant sects do is anti-biblical. Colossians 2:16
18. The failure to be consistent in teaching is anti-biblical. Truth does not change. John 14:6
19. The rejection of parts of Holy Scripture is anti-biblical. James 2:10
20. Once saved always saved is anti-biblical. Philippians 2:12
21. Saved by faith alone is anti-biblical. James 2:24
22. Saved by grace alone is anti-biblical. James 2:24
23. Having a closed mind is anti-biblical. Romans 2:8
24. Rejection of authority is anti-biblical. Hebrews 13:17
25. Having no authority is anti-biblical. Matthew 18:15-18, Hebrews 13:17
26. Twisting Scripture to suit false teaching is anti-biblical. 2Peter 3:16
27. Adding to or subtracting from Scripture as some do is anti-biblical. Deut 4:2, Rev 22:18-19
28. Following the false prophet as some sects do is anti-biblical. Matthew 7:15
29. The Protestant revolt was anti-biblical. Hebrews 13:17
30. Bending to secular pressures is anti-biblical. Truth can never be compromised. Acts 5:29

[Seaweed]

8) Why do Protestants take the whole Bible literally except for John chapter 6, which they call symbolic? One chapter in the whole Bible is symbolic? How can that be true?

9) How can Protestants say that Sola Scriptura has been in use from day one, when for over 1400 years almost no one had a Bible, and even if they did, the great majority of the masses were illiterate anyhow?

10) Since Protestants believe that "all Scripture is inspired (2Tim 3:16)", then why aren't the gospels of Peter, Philip, Nicodemus, Bartholomew, Andrew, Thomas, etc, in their Bible?

11) Where in Holy Scripture did Jesus give instructions that the Christian faith is to be solely based on a book? How about the same question except for using the Apostles instead of Jesus?

12) Why do Protestants say it is the Bible which is the pillar and foundation of truth when the Bible clearly says it is the Church (1Tim 3:15)? Please give me the name of that Church?

13) Why do Protestants reject Apostolic Tradition when the Bible clearly says, "So then, brethren, stand firm and hold the teachings that you have learned, whether by word or by letter of ours."
2Thessalonians 2:15, yet another verse ignored, and taught against by Protestantism.

14) Why do Protestants deny that the Bible came from the Catholic Church when they cannot name a truthful and provable alternate source, and where there are literally hundreds of genuine historical documents which prove them to be wrong in their denial?

15) Protestants deny that Peter was given primacy in Matthew 16:18. Nothing in Scripture is done without a purpose. For what purpose then, did Jesus change Simon's name to Peter?

16) Why do Protestants deny that the Papacy is Scriptural, when in fact, it is very Scriptural?

17) Why is it that Protestants can never supply genuine historical documents to "prove" their false charges? Is it because the lie can never be proven, but the truth can be?
It is simple, if you have no truth, then you have no proof.
Catholics can, and do, supply genuine historical documents to prove what they teach.
Why then do Protestants refuse to read them? Romans 1:18, 2:8

18) Why do Protestants deny the unbroken line of succession of Popes down through the centuries from St. Peter to the present Pope, when the Catholic Church has given free access for anyone to research genuine historical documents to prove it to be true, but Protestants refuse to read them? Anyone can go to a secular encyclopedia and see the same succession of Popes.

19) Why do Protestants deny that the Catholic Church has existed from the first century, when hundreds of genuine historical documents, written by scores of Holy men and women, are freely available to prove them wrong in their denial? However, Protestants simply refuse to read them. As explained earlier, Protestants teach that history ended with Acts 28:30 and did not begin again until Luther came along.

[Seaweed]

Brainfreeze, look at those questions. Study them twice and
come back with answers. Thanks.

[Seaweed]

So, you still believe the earth is less than 10k yrs old? Give or take a few...

What? No. Once again, Catholics are not Protestants. Catholics are free to believe what they want based on scientific evidence about how old the universe is. This has nothing to do with faith and morals and so it is not Church dogma. A Catholic can believe in a billion, million, or thousand year old universe and they would still be a Catholic. The Church has no official teaching on that which binds all Catholics. I personally believe it is much much older than 10k and I would align with the general scientific view.

[raydog]

So what was God doing for billions of years before creating living things? ... Seaweed, I'm honestly fascinated by what you and others have been manipulated into believing...

[Seaweed]

So what was God doing for billions of years before creating living things? ... Seaweed, I'm honestly fascinated by what you and others have been manipulated into believing...

0 manipulation here, Raydog. The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus and is the Truth. That is my belief with all mind and heart. I studied, prayed, read, listened, and I am happy knowing that what I believe has proven to be the most convincing. I played skeptic, tried to find errors, faults, contradictions, but there were none because they were all explained by the authority Jesus left through the magisterium of the Catholic Church. When there is an issue or something confusing, I know that the Church is there to interpret for me.

What was God doing? It's a meaningless question because when God created the universe He also created time and space. God is a timeless eternal being, not bound to time like us. God always is.

[raydog]

Weeder, what makes you more angry... atheist or Christians of a different religion? You do understand that 2 people , who fear the same Unproven theory , that argue over what is written in the bible, is pretty damn childish, no?

[Seaweed]

Weeder, what makes you more angry... atheist or Christians of a different religion? You do understand that 2 people , who fear the same Unproven theory , that argue over what is written in the bible, is pretty damn childish, no?

Nobody makes me angry and I think salvation and eternity are worth the discourse. Even if one doesn't really believe, I would hope that person has taken the time to look at all the evidence before making a decision because there could be a lot at stake. I think everyone should desire the Truth with their hearts and mind and be open to it whatever it is. Some people are not open, and it's hard to converse with those people. I don't try to argue, I honestly believe I am doing a favor to others by pointing them towards Christ.