I think it's borderline silly to fight this too, Bobby... I dont give a Shit what it says on money... I'm not going to nit pick insignificant issues
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Top 10 Most Common Atheist Arguments, and Why They Fail:
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There is certainly a high power which some call it god.Comment -
I wouldn't argue about paper and what's written on it, there's also pyramids there and a lot of Masonic symbolism, doesn't give any merit one way or the other. The " money " itself could be someone's god, they kill for it, sell themselves and their souls for it all the time...Comment -
you either believe or you dont... the guy who wrote the article is god fearing... there is nothing wrong with any of the arguments and they only fail in the eyes of gods gullible sheep... you are always going to get a rebuttal from the god fearing who have blind faith in the impossible and believe everything that is in the bible...the bible is a manipulative piece of science fiction...it is not the truth...
bobby, since the bible was finished, why havent we seen men live to be over 900 yrs old? where are the women that are turned into salt pillars? how about all those virgin births... bobby, i can go on and on and on about abusurdities in the bible that are 100% impossible and nothing more than science fiction, but its already been said...
on the other hand, same goes when an atheist writes an article... they dont believe, so there will be bias.
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And if there is another rock like ours in the universe, that means however you question both got here, the answer is likely to be from the same source of creation. By any reasonable thinking, if there is creation there must be a creator. And if there is no creator, there can't be creation. Call that source what you want, but a lot of people refer to the source as God.
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It took you that long to figure that out??
I knew the guy was a screw or two loose a long time ago.
But hey, nothing wrong with being a little nuts if your views arent hurting others.
Problem is, freezers views are and do hurt others more than they could ever heal. Guy just hasnt worked that part out yet...
Btw happy openly secular day 😊Comment -
It's inspired Word of God.... Different, could be written on stone or lamb skin, not a monetary " scheme " note, note of debt actually ... It's not even money, lolComment -
They were before the flood,you either believe or you dont... the guy who wrote the article is god fearing... there is nothing wrong with any of the arguments and they only fail in the eyes of gods gullible sheep... you are always going to get a rebuttal from the god fearing who have blind faith in the impossible and believe everything that is in the bible...the bible is a manipulative piece of science fiction...it is not the truth...
bobby, since the bible was finished, why havent we seen men live to be over 900 yrs old? where are the women that are turned into salt pillars? how about all those virgin births... bobby, i can go on and on and on about abusurdities in the bible that are 100% impossible and nothing more than science fiction, but its already been said...
on the other hand, same goes when an atheist writes an article... they dont believe, so there will be bias.
Then this...
3Then YAHWEH said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
As I've said plenty of times now, I am a miracle and I've seen things that defy logic, if you don't believe me so be it, but I tell you the truth.Comment -
more god and bible garbage being debunked... 122yrs 164 days at death
sorry, bf.. you have been manipulated by science fiction, againComment -
None of you are right.
I'm no genius but, i have no problem admitting I am from the school of I don't know.
It makes me laugh when guys like bobbywaves & other degens, tell me that they have the answers.
Donks!
No shame in admiting that you might not know something.
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Lol, people die before 120 all the time, and she still died in her 120's ... Debunked ? You sound foolish... You haven't " debunked " one single thing, and never will, Bibles proven right time and time again.... She was in her 120's and how long ago was this written again that it wouldn't be surpassed ?more god and bible garbage being debunked... 122yrs 164 days at death
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…3What then? If some did not believe, their unbelief will not nullify the faithfulness of God, will it? 4May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written, "THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED."Comment -
your scripture says 120yrs.. Your God says 120yrs...not 121 or 122... your bible is full of shit, bottom line...dont embarrass yourself making up excuses ... go find me another virgin birth or woman turned into a salt pillar... your excuses are ridiculous and naive, to say the least and to put it nicely... Debunked...thats exactly what this woman did...Fact
bf, here is my point... you can believe there is a god/higher power/etc. without believing Everything in the bible... the bible contains areas/scripture that is 100% full of shit ... you know it and the world knows it ... i dont think your god will frown upon you because you dont believe some of the things that HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PERFORM...its okay to use rational thinking and shed the gullible fear from time to time while reading your science fiction novel
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sourtwist, i think you and i got into an ugly and immature name calling scuffle a few weeks back...although i still think all i was doing was stating the obvious about chick fil a, i want to apologize for my part... never anything personal... like most, once i get something in my head, if there are no facts to change my stance, its not going to happen...
anyways, gl this weekend...lots of action
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Expecting a package this morning, door bell rings...Jehovah's Witnesses....ugh.Last edited by bigtymer56; 04-25-15, 11:23 AM.Comment -
Really raydog.... 121 or 122.... Smhyour scripture says 120yrs.. Your God says 120yrs...not 121 or 122... your bible is full of shit, bottom line...dont embarrass yourself making up excuses ... go find me another virgin birth or woman turned into a salt pillar... your excuses are ridiculous and naive, to say the least and to put it nicely... Debunked...thats exactly what this woman did...Fact
bf, here is my point... you can believe there is a god/higher power/etc. without believing Everything in the bible... the bible contains areas/scripture that is 100% full of shit ... you know it and the world knows it ... i dont think your god will frown upon you because you dont believe some of the things that HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PERFORM...its okay to use rational thinking and shed the gullible fear from time to time while reading your science fiction novel
Your not getting the stories, let's ask why did she turn into a pillar of salt.. She turned back... God told Lot and his wife not to turn back but go... She couldn't let go, she turned back... She wanted her old way of life in a filthy city, she didn't want to start anew ... She was turned into salt in a instant .. She made her choice, things are happening right now that would defy logic ray, did you hear about the man who is now alive without a heart ? Say that a thousand years ago and they would say IMPOSSIBLE, there's coming a time where people are going to have to choose, humanity or machine .and a false promise of eternity ..that only God can give.
. A virgin birth is possible when God is involved, if you can believe earth came from no where, why is it so hard to believe a conception can do the same ? Same principle .. You keep saying what we were taught, but you were taught this crap evolution and natural selection stuff when it's completely bogus... We are not getting better or " evolving ", they want to go to machine, so is that the next step in " evolution " lol,
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good fukking god.. please just stop now... you are making up ridiculous excuses for why your bible is wrong...proven wrong and you just cant grasp the fact its WRONG... your god said 120yrs... no more...how much more proof do you need??? any excuse you throw out there is wrong, laughable and is grasping for the dear life of your precious debunked full of shit bible...
here is an instant where its slapping a fact right in your face and you refuse to acknowledge it...here is another example of a fact contradicting the bible and a christian scurrying to look the other way (or at least you should be) ... scripture says 120yrs... she outlived it... just accept the book has flaws in the form of being completely untrue and move on.... doesnt mean you have to love or worship or believe in your god any less, brother
you arent going to win this one with me...
as far as the other stuff... its impossible... you obviously have to believe in the impossible and have faith...and ill just say again that the fact none of these impossible things have occurred since the bible was finished, is all the proof any rational minded person needs
you cant see how people have evolved and cant see evolution happening in front of your face today???
like the avatar says, are you fukking serious right now?
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RR understand that there is no point in trying to talk sense to a unbalanced mind. Learnt that about religious types who are too far gone a long time ago...good fukking god.. please just stop now... you are making up ridiculous excuses for why your bible is wrong...proven wrong and you just cant grasp the fact its WRONG... your god said 120yrs... no more...how much more proof do you need??? any excuse you throw out there is wrong, laughable and is grasping for the dear life of your precious debunked full of shit bible...
here is an instant where its slapping a fact right in your face and you refuse to acknowledge it...here is another example of a fact contradicting the bible and a christian scurrying to look the other way (or at least you should be) ... scripture says 120yrs... she outlived it... just accept the book has flaws in the form of being completely untrue and move on.... doesnt mean you have to love or worship or believe in your god any less, brother
you arent going to win this one with me...
as far as the other stuff... its impossible... you obviously have to believe in the impossible and have faith...and ill just say again that the fact none of these impossible things have occurred since the bible was finished, is all the proof any rational minded person needs
you cant see how people have evolved and cant see evolution happening in front of your face today??? like the avatar says, are you fukking serious right now?
People like freezer will slowly steal your sanity if you allow them to...Comment -
meh..smart guy, just grossly misguided and manipulated like the rest.. He knows he is fukked on this one and is scrambling to come up with some sort of logical reasoning, for a change, and he can't... Why? because it's a fact that slapped them across the teeth... There is a reason his God said 120 yrs... And not 120yrs OR SO
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1 person, 1 or " 2 " years, out 6,7 billion people... Your being drastic here, and your just trying to be one up " literally ". The facts stand though, I can make a sure call by saying you or me will not see 120 but don't highlight one exception knowing that's not the norm, your wrong here... and this was written thousands of years ago, and still holds true today, as of the rest of it..
thanks for the compliment, your not being sarcastic and it's appreciated, even though I don't see myself smart, record of dumb decisions made, but I do see you as very smart, just ticked off about horrible situations and I understand that, I'm sure God does to, and your a good guy raydog, I think you have a good heart, and your engaged in this subject seriously, a discussion that will probably have you think later on in life about the possibilities,Comment -
Never understand why you people constantly jump into a thread " about something you say doesn't exist " only to spew nonsense about me or other individuals. No real facts, just spew crap and see what sticks right ? If you've made your choice, cool, that's up to you, must be a pretty crappy place to be in, when one thinks man... Man is the greatest thing on earth or The universe for that matter, there's nothing else ... Just man and their ape friends... Surely a vain way to go out, not to smart Acoochy, when most scientist don't leave out the possibility for bias reasons, and the more one studies, you then realize that possibility has a lot of merit. This is just a physical plain, and then when you understand spiritual, you then know how real it all is.
But hey, just keep up the fight of something that doesn't exist, but as I said before, it doesn't matter what you believe, people in power and the top of this pyramid of their deception believe, and are wicked, getting great joy out of power and other people's pain, serving their father, lucifer... and they do have power just as the good book says, it's a war against " powers and principalities, rulers of darkness ", so believe what you want and your little world Acoochy, your only helping them, calculated, vile and vain people with zero balance of morality or humanity...
There is no line of morality any other way, either your good and you fight for what's right, love, peace, etc. or you believe the lie of evolution and natural selection, and we are all just animals acting on instinct alone, and there is no right and wrong ... because you can't have both, it's one or the other, your choice ... I would ask you stop this and fight for good.Comment -
Yeah...this guy is a Christian...and a minister no lessComment -
no doubt, no doubt... i cant imagine how miserable it would be to live that long... heck, im not sure i want to live 40 more years...
as far as the 1 up goes, thats not it at all...it doesnt matter if its 1 or 100 or a million... it proves the bible and gods word as being false and the 120yrs was nothing more than someones guesstimation... makes sense the authors simply doubled what they figured a high avg. age, at death, to be during those times and wrote it as gods word... utter nonsense and it only takes 1 person to debunk that scripture... and debunked, it has been.
i was reading a bit on age/ages and there appear to be plenty of others who "supposedly" lived over 120yrs and into their 130s... but there isnt enough documented proof of it and i would be a hypocrite if i quoted it as truth... unfortunately, christians have no issue quoting peoples ages , from the bible, as truth.. when we all know its humanly impossible to live to be the absurd ages the bible claims some were...Comment -
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Rant" is fine and was well articulated. You sound like a carbon copy of myself (in terms of beliefs) not long ago. Probably not much i could say that you haven't heard already before.recon, this is from the other thread....
let me first state, that i do believe in historical Jesus... and his father may very well have been named God...but thats as far as im willing to take it...
well, after sitting through a few years of bible school and learning all the things god is supposed to do for the good and for his children, it became obvious to me that nothing was actually protecting good people or pulling any strings of any sorts... when bad stuff happened, it was blamed on the devil, but god had a reason for doing nothing about it... its an awful excuse and always will be, imo...
i was raised southern baptist and my part of the country is seriously a backwards as fukk place to live, when it comes to religion... its a big turnoff for anyone with doubts and leads to complete avoidance of the whole religion/god thing... and trust me when i say that if you bring up your doubts around the majority of people in my area, you will receive a brutal verbal beatdown, not with facts, but with threats of hell and pain and bad karma etc etc etc... its been instilled in peoples minds, for so long, that there is no other possibility other than god and its brought on a lot of bible misinterpretation that, in return, has led to unnecessary conflict and violence
recon, i dont really have a #1 factor, there are so many situations in the bible that i dont beleive and that is probably a factor up on my list... the absurdities, that havent been performed since the bible was finished, is a very very telling sign to me...
as far as everyday life, being that my mother and a handful of past girlfriends worked in hospitals either as nurses or dr's , i have seen too much death in innocent children... you cant walk through the halls of St.Jude or Lebohner childrens hospital without stopping and falling apart on at least a few occasions...you can only question "why" so many times until it hits you that there is nothing that will answer because there is nothing, other than imagination, that is there...
and of course all the bad that happens to some of the better people... the idea of a good god is brutally awful and is overlooked... god doesnt protect, yet gets all the praise when someone gets fukked up and dr's/hospitals/machines save the lives... its a nauseating theory, but i understand its not one of your own, but one that was made up many generations ago by people far less intelligent and much more frightened by the devil and hell
but, to finalize, i believe in science and i believe scientific theories have completely dubunked the absurdities in the bible, creationism, earths age etc...
do i know what happened and why we are here? of course not ... but the big bang and evolution seem much more possible than one all mighty creator of everything... the whole theory is completely beyond the realm of reality and asinine, to me... i also think that because its such an impossible theory, its one of the reasons you have so many people believing in so many different religious things... i hope that made sense...
sorry, i know you werent asking for a rant
Personal tragedies with kids etc. is just part of life and it really is that simple. We were not promised cookies & milk etc. we live, we die and no question we are judged on our deeds. I've been to St. Jude and witnessed the sad child diseases, but i like to question the foods and the vaccines we give our kids for the reasons these things happen and are happening in greater numbers, rather than why God allows this or that bad thing to happen to X,Y or Z person. Free will is more powerful than we realize.
That's my little rant, but only thing I've really gotta say is: I understand you perfectly.Comment
