Again... I AM A MIRACLE, my life my testimony... That a few of you are not willing to except! If you want to brush me off as crazy, you do it to your own demise...
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Similar to what I posted last time, declaring reality doesn't make it so
Many founders believed these rights were bestowed by the Christian god; again, that doesn't mean they were. More relevantly, they're constantly violated with the approval of people who fail to think critically and act accordingly, actions encouraged by your belief system.
Again, belief =/= reality
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It's up to the individual, if you want to believe men, do that... What do you mean by that doesn't mean they were ? Your saying that it's something other then what it is... Now your creating your own reality...Similar to what I posted last time, declaring reality doesn't make it so
Many founders believed these rights were bestowed by the Christian god; again, that doesn't mean they were. More relevantly, they're constantly violated with the approval of people who fail to think critically and act accordingly, actions encouraged by your belief system.
Again, belief =/= reality
QUOTATION: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
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Rights are not granted by God any way you look at it...even if your sources were accurate, God never seemed to care much about some very basic human rights.
I choose to believe men when they offer proof they're correct, and not just when they offer some words they wrote, or because it could conceivably mesh with my own irrational tendencies. You seem to have chosen to believe in God because it's what some guys wrote in an old book; in 4015, should people treat Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings with the same reverence? I know you've had some experiences and attribute those to supernatural causes, but while it might have helped you become a better person, it doesn't make your beliefs true.Comment -
What proof ? A helicopter ... A tv ? There is no proof, other then divine intervention for a few like myself, we can't prove God or disprove God, other then by the Word of God and our testimonies ..God made mountains, and water falls... He also made horses and apples, but this isn't proof to a few of you, this is just part of some Big Bang... O, forgot ..it's not a Big Bang anymore, it's some other new theory...
This might seem irrational today, but nothing's changed other then tech. but yet people are so bent that Gods not real... Yet they can't prove it, and there's more evidence the other way " Israel ", the Word of God, " that also correlates with history " the substance of what is written and deep meaning, the love that Christians have because of being filled with the Holy Spirit...the giving, the serving, the taking time to share with others their story and open up, you think we do this on our own account ?
And about the movie thing, ya never know tripper... Movies might actually play a major role in society past that of what it's already become, quick fact, do you know what kind of wood magicians used to use in past times.... Holly wood...Comment -
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How can anyone in their right mind just dismiss all the testimonials of near death experiences, do you honestly think all these people are lying? http://eternityinourheart.com/
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Bobby, if someone important came out tomorrow and said they rode blue unicorns in heaven during a "near death experience or while on the operating table" I guaranfukkinte you there would be idiot after idiot claiming the same thing to their drs. In the future...
Bf, I'm not sure how you expect people to prove that nothing is nothing ... you think the bible proves all and don't accept the fact it's a manipulative fictional book full of absurdities and contradictions .. The impossibilities the bible claims are quite impossible today... no virgin birth, no water to wine, no women turned into salt etc etc .. I'm not sure why you need more than the obvious... Nobody seems to have an answer for why none of that fiction is possible today, yet happened in biblical times and what's even more perplexing is that people blindly trust it and have total faith in it.. Why? Because they were told to do so and threatened with the theory of eternal hell that is passed on from illiterate generation to illiterate generation...
You might be different in that you received a "sign" .. But really all you felt was your body telling you it had enough of the bullshit you were doing to it... Give yourself more credit .. Don't give a God credit for what you achieve buddyComment -
How can anyone in their right mind dismiss all the testimonials of alien abductions?How can anyone in their right mind just dismiss all the testimonials of near death experiences, do you honestly think all these people are lying? http://eternityinourheart.com/
... because there's no proof. People might not think they're lying, doesn't mean they're correct. Not a concept you've ever been able to understand though
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I think something is happening to a few people, maybe a black ops program that prey on the weak who are easily hypnotized, it happens to a lot of them at their homes " while asleep "... They do have mutilated cows pop up all the time or those crop circles, I think it's people though not alien doing all this, pretty sophisticated, I wouldn't just dismiss tripper.
My testimony is nothing like these people though, so don't relate mine to theirs.... As I said I'm not a weak minded person, and I've been under serious pressure many of times, this thing that happen was super natural.Comment -
The same could be said for your theories, how can we prove a negative... and those miracles did happen just as described, I mean I don't understand how someone can live their entire life on this beautiful world, and not say wow this is amazing, the birds, the beach, the mountains, the forest, the swamp, just wow, and say this place isn't a miracle, someone designed this place beautifully ... No, the atheist want to give credit to nothing, nothing did this, it's completely out of the realm of happening again, like a virgin birth or water to wine, but yet it's here, and we live in it everyday....
and God gets the glory for healing me, I could never take credit for something I couldn't do my whole life, that happened over night like it was nothing, I've never experienced anything like it and I'm sure I won't again until I meet my Maker. The glory is His and His alone, for who I am today...Last edited by brainfreeze; 03-05-15, 03:56 PM.Comment -
This is borderline fanaticism...
I think the DHS should be notified here as this guy really is next level batshit crazy if he believes what he has written and am genuinely concerned he may go out and so some 'in the name of 16th century version of jesus' type shit at any moment...Comment -
You are in the wilderness (SBR) Brain, multiple devils (raydog etc) are messing with you. Glad you are hanging strong.
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you need to do some research on the topic, bobby.. you sound like a tin hat conspiracy theorist... it is EXTREMELY common for people to have a vision, because they have dreamed about it and thought about it for so long...they get totally mind fukked by the medicine/lights/brain chemisty etc while they are dying or in a coma .. there is science behind thinking you are visioning something because its been instilled in your thoughts since the first assclown said he saw the light and was going to heaven yada yada whoreshit yada... and yes, people lie out their ass about it... its not really funny, because it gives other idiots the idea that they actually have something to look forward to...
bf, i really do wish you would give yourself more credit.. i do think you are strong minded and i know that whatever gets you through the days, has nothing to do some outside force...its you and your body doing whats best for you and your body...
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Shame you couldn't read past that sentence, the answer was right there. I guess you won't have far to look if you ever decide you want to know the truth.
The key concept is realizing that it's nothing to do with being "strong" or "weak" minded; everyone has to overcome the same hurdles regarding our brains' imperfect processing. Nobody is completely immune, and for most of this stuff there isn't even what most would consider significant natural variance in abilities; it's simply how our brains work. In the past, people who were considered "wise" or "geniuses" often had a better grasp on this than most, and their perceived infallibility was exactly because they understood their failings and were careful to acknowledge and account for them (by not thinking every thought that came out of their head was flawless).
If you can find the time, start with "The Invisible Gorilla"; pretty engaging read and a good introduction to the various ways in which we're simply not as good at things as we think we are, and how that can lead us to making huge mistakes in judgement even in the face of overwhelming evidence.Comment -
you need to do some research on the topic, bobby.. you sound like a tin hat conspiracy theorist... it is EXTREMELY common for people to have a vision, because they have dreamed about it and thought about it for so long...they get totally mind fukked by the medicine/lights/brain chemisty etc while they are dying or in a coma .. there is science behind thinking you are visioning something because its been instilled in your thoughts since the first assclown said he saw the light and was going to heaven yada yada whoreshit yada... and yes, people lie out their ass about it... its not really funny, because it gives other idiots the idea that they actually have something to look forward to...
bf, i really do wish you would give yourself more credit.. i do think you are strong minded and i know that whatever gets you through the days, has nothing to do some outside force...its you and your body doing whats best for you and your body...
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I'm simply not good at things that I think I am ? What are you trying to relate to ? and are brains thoughts aren't flawless.. ? What are you saying trip, just get to the point, that I'm really not good at poker, and that I'm delusional ? Well if that's what your brain interprets after 30 some pages of this so be it, nothing I can do but tell you to do your own research ... but I'm not going to keep letting you tell me my testimony is a false reality, that's like you telling me your dog just got rolled over by a truck, and I tell you, no man that's just a figment of your imagination ... Even though there's blood all over the streets, stop it already.Comment -
Freezer, trying to explain that it's not specific to you; all of our brains do this to us...it's how human brains work. It's not being delusional; I usually reserve that term for people who make the conscious choice to ignore reality. The important thing is to search for external proof and not just take your perception at face value. In the case of a hit dog, plenty of evidence confirms (blood in street, dog injured). In the case of your experiences which are purely internal with no external evidence (at least not any that isn't more easily explained with science), they're simply not reliable enough for a wise man to be confident it's accurate.
I've done the research on this stuff, more than I would have preferred actually. Again, read The Invisible Gorilla as a starting point; until you become aware of this stuff, you're going to continue to falsely believe things, same as many other people unaware of how perception works who make the same mistakes. With our brains' limitations fairly well understood, there's no real excuse to remain in ignorance, particularly when the consequences affect so many choices you make in life.Last edited by Triple_D_Bet; 03-06-15, 09:54 AM.Comment -
Look! They created God. Or maybe you shouldn't sleep next to big magnets.
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Ok, tripper... As I've said, in my line of work, I was in the streets... My brain had no option but to be sharp as a tac, your brain might give you some false perception, in my line of work, I had no room for that. I slip, I'm dead...and there's plenty of occurrences that I had to watch every single thing that happened around me, very attentive, this is how I lived and survived... What do you know about the streets tripper ?
If you think none of what I said is external proof, I'm not going to keep going over it, but you know what I have told you, if you think my " perception " is bent, that's a heavy gamble bud...and it's your choice to make.Comment -
not to be a dick, at all, but are you talking selling dime bags on the street and doing it without getting robbed, beaten up, killed or caught? people with sharp brains dont sell shit on the streets... i understand you were in a bad spot for some time, but to consider selling/doing drugs and being on the streets as something that sharp minded people do, then you arent quite the person we thought we were debating all of this with
im not passing any judgement on what you had to do in order to get by, dont get me wrong, but sharp minds find easier and better ways... didnt you say you were basically given an ultimatum? why do you owe this lifestyle change to god? you were basically forced to get clean or do hard time, no? forgive me if i have the story slightly messed up... its been a while since we discussed the detailsLast edited by raydog; 03-06-15, 04:53 PM.Comment -
No raydog, I didn't deal in dime bags, I've sold pounds of dro, and ounces of coke... Big money, I'm not going to get into it because it's not my job to incriminate myself... but just know I was around big timers, and killers everyday, I ran the streets for real, and could get my hands on anything I wanted... Do you think I got that big being ignorant... Think about itComment -
Not book smart.
I mean smart enough to not need a emotional crux that lifts the weight of responsibility from your shoulders.
Smart enough to understand that sometimes pain is good because it reminds us of who we are are where our limitations lie.
Thats called a copout. Like, you chose to go the easy way out (ie god will forgive me if i repent) cos it was probably eating you inside and you couldnt stand up, be a man and deal with it in a manner that didnt admonish you of responsibility...
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... I did this all my life and I couldn't bare the responsibility, you sound foolish, if you like pain so be it, I've had enough of that in my life, enough for both of us for that matter. the easy way out ? again lol, the easy way is doing what I WANT TO DO. I can tell you have no idea what your talking about... Why the way to Christ is narrow, the road to hell is deep and wide...
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Whether you're on the streets or in an office doesn't matter; your brain, just like every other human being's brain, has glitches when it comes to perception. This isn't a theory or speculation; it's a well-proven fact, and can be proven by going through simple exercises. Your perception of yourself as cognizant of everything around you is also overstated, and this too is another way our brains trick us. Again, not speculation: 100% fact. The fact that you continue to think it is pure science; knowing the science allows you to examine your claims more closely, validate them corroborating proof before accepting them, and avoid chronic overconfidence. Do me a favor and just read up on this stuff for like 10 minutes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness If you even just skim that page, you'll see what I'm talking about, and perhaps be better equipped to not overestimate your abilities.
I would say the hardest way is being a good person knowing there's no eternal consequences or often even worldly ones, but simply because it's the way you want to be treated...far more difficult than being good cause you think there's a reward in it for you.... I did this all my life and I couldn't bare the responsibility, you sound foolish, if you like pain so be it, I've had enough of that in my life, enough for both of us for that matter. the easy way out ? again lol, the easy way is doing what I WANT TO DO. I can tell you have no idea what your talking about... Why the way to Christ is narrow, the road to hell is deep and wide...Comment -
The easy way out is to ask an imaginary god to forgive you for REAL LIFE HARMING "sins" you did to others.... I did this all my life and I couldn't bare the responsibility, you sound foolish, if you like pain so be it, I've had enough of that in my life, enough for both of us for that matter. the easy way out ? again lol, the easy way is doing what I WANT TO DO. I can tell you have no idea what your talking about... Why the way to Christ is narrow, the road to hell is deep and wide...
THAT is what the poster who mentioned fortitude was referring to.
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... What's dat ? Are you trying to say " book smart " Are you saying I'm dumb now... After everything I've posted here, if so I'd question your intellect ..