Is bigorange the poker room monitor?

[Auto Donk]

waves, the only "female company" that has been in your presence since the that "half female" tranny you hired in the Dominican Republic last Bash two years ago, are the four on your chest.....

are you takin' estrogen? how the hell are you growing ?????

you might as well go ahead and get the sex-change done..... you already are a pussy, now you just need to lop your miniscule junk off and have a pussy installed, to complete the total transformation....

[bobbywaves]

Flippers suck.

How so? You have a right to your opinion, I disagree. Flipping is allowed, is it not? We're paying rake, & it's time efficient. Some people value their time & don't want to spend all weekend completing their rolls. Last statement SBR made couple months ago was flipping is ok, evening out afterwards is not ok. Until SBR changes their stance somehow regarding flipping, flippers aren't doing anything wrong & it's our prerogative to complete our rolls however we want. There's many flippers on this site, so my opinion is non flippers suck.

But just another example of how to do what you want and not care what others think etiquette wise.

So you're insinuating flipping is bad etiquette, how so? If someone doesn't want to flip, leave the table & join another game. It's pretty simple, there are other tables open to play at. For example: When I'm rolling over, I don't sit at BO's table & he doesn't sit at mine. Since we complete our rolls differently. So exactly where does the "poor etiquette" come into play?

Getting all bent out of shape about etiquette breaches only hurts the person who cares about it really.

Correct...Since flippers don't believe there's any etiquette breach, only non flippers are getting bent out of shape.

[Sam Losco]

if you click the buyin button and sbr lets you on the table, play and have a good time..... if anyone has a problem with you being there, they can leave.... don't sweat it.....

my thoughts exactly


ps, will be playing trying to roll over 150 points sometime this weekend

[bobbywaves]

Donkey, I get you're jealous of the pecs. Hit the gym & get over it.

But you're immaturity has reached a level I never thought possible. I'm still trying to imagine a "lawyer" in his forties, who posts the way you do.

[Optional]

If you don't get why I think it sucks there probably isn't much use trying to explain but I'll give it one try.

Flippers only look at what they can take and how easy they can get it without care about the future of the system.

Kind of like a fisherman that takes everything they can scoop up to sell today without worrying about removing breeding stock for the future.

It's allowed, as it's too much of a pain to police for the pennies involved. But it takes away from the growth and success of our small poker community.


Now why don't you try to explain what it is that you think sucks about "non-flippers" smart guy?

[Auto Donk]

Donkey, I get you're jealous of the pecs. Hit the gym & get over it.

But you're immaturity has reached a level I never thought possible. I'm still trying to imagine a "lawyer" in his forties, who posts the way you do.

waves, too bad you didn't show at the bash..... i picked up two pairs of nipple clamps for you at the local adult novelty store.....

those flappy things you call "pecs" are , son.....

[bobbywaves]

If you don't get why I think it sucks there probably isn't much use trying to explain but I'll give it one try.

Flippers only look at what they can take and how easy they can get it without care about the future of the system.

Kind of like a fisherman that takes everything they can scoop up to sell today without worrying about removing breeding stock for the future.

It's allowed, as it's too much of a pain to police for the pennies involved. But it takes away from the growth and success of our small poker community.

Don't agree with your analogy, believe you're looking to deep into it. If SBR used the resources to police & get rid of flipping, I don't see the growth of the poker community as you suggest. Rather, I see the poker room declining. As all those disgruntled flippers may not renew their pro status as a result, believing it's too time consuming to convert poker points into gift cards.

Now why don't you try to explain what it is that you think sucks about "non-flippers" smart guy?

Sure...It sucks when non flippers sit at my table & don't want to flip their rolls, as it wastes my time & theirs. Especially when majority of non-flippers already know I'm sitting at table to flip, but some ignorantly choose to sit down anyway.

On the bright side, I've noticed the number of flippers growing over time. Many have come to realize that not only is it time efficient, their poker ROI's are growing as well: More completed rolls, less busts.

I see it as a personal choice. Some have the time to grind out their rolls looking for max return, while others rather not invest the time & are content with a modest return. Despite my preference to flip, many have seen me at Omaha H/L cash games on weekends. I'll play them with my smaller rolls, sometimes while waiting for a flipper to come along at my other table.

[Auto Donk]

waves, stfu and stick to being not only a member of the "Itty Bitty Flappy Four Titty Committee," but also the owner.....

[RudyRuetigger]

I could've been drunk, had 30 posts in this thread and checked to reread tonight

man I am glad I am sober these days

i wasted a shitload of time on threads like this

[qwertvt]

A counterpoint against flipping rollovers is that it could be construed as collusion.

It is pretty easy to spot some trying to flip.

If flipping is a choice and those who really want to play should leave when this type of play is identified, the only remaining players left are those who know they are in a low risk situation which serves the purpose of aiding each other's rollover.

It may not be premeditated, but the actions are equivalent to collusion. Everyone knows the true purpose of this type play. The idea of checking, folding and playing weak aren't strategies to minimize risk of loss.

The intent is to break even on the rollover. The primary reason I feel it is collusion stems mainly from the fact that the intent is transparent and the player at the table will run once they hit the rollover at the exact dollar amount.

[yahoonino]

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yo qwert, i understand where you're coming from, and i appreciate the respectful tone in your response. It's just that i've experienced rudeness and berating just from trying to buy in with rollover on the only table that's running. So i sympathize with others who are treated that way. And it's like, well often i have 300 or less points in a rollover and nothing in my wallet, so, i'm sorry i can't buy in full but i want to use this rollover and either bust or possibly get a pizza card. If that makes me satan then forgive me, but it's not like there are constantly games running at all stakes all the time on sbr

also, the berating i'm talking about personally never involved hu play. It was 5 or 6 handed. I'd always respect hu requests between players who were already there and didn't want a shortstack interfering. If there are 5 people playing at 3/6 and i have a rollover i want to either clear or bust quickly, i'm going to buy in for my 150 or whatever. If people don't like that, sorry, but i'm not super interested in the cash games, just want to use up my rollover and maybe get a gift card. I don't sit there shortstacking for an hour, i either double up or bust quickly, so it shouldn't ruin your experience that much, and it's the only thing i can do with a 100-300 rollover

bingoooo

[Auto Donk]

Yo qwert, I understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate the respectful tone in your response. It's just that I've experienced rudeness and berating just from trying to buy in with rollover on the only table that's running. So I sympathize with others who are treated that way. And it's like, well often I have 300 or less points in a rollover and nothing in my wallet, so, I'm sorry I can't buy in full but I want to use this rollover and either bust or possibly get a pizza card. If that makes me satan then forgive me, but it's not like there are constantly games running at all stakes all the time on SBR

Also, the berating I'm talking about personally never involved HU play. It was 5 or 6 handed. I'd always respect HU requests between players who were already there and didn't want a shortstack interfering. If there are 5 people playing at 3/6 and I have a rollover I want to either clear or bust quickly, I'm going to buy in for my 150 or whatever. If people don't like that, sorry, but I'm not super interested in the cash games, just want to use up my rollover and maybe get a gift card. I don't sit there shortstacking for an hour, I either double up or bust quickly, so it shouldn't ruin your experience that much, and it's the only thing I can do with a 100-300 rollover

[no1here]

Flipping was allowed to accommodate a few of SBR favorites. They were caught doing it but SBR didn't care to punish their prize ones so instead allowed it for all.

[blankoblanco]

Firstly lol Autodonk, nice one

Secondly:

Flipping was allowed to accommodate a few of SBR favorites. They were caught doing it but SBR didn't care to punish their prize ones so instead allowed it for all.

But why should flipping be disallowed in the first place? Players are paying rake and it's not like it's some sort of collusion that hurts a 3rd player. It's just a way of saving time and still gambling. I'm just genuinely curious why some people object so much to it

[Optional]

Firstly lol Autodonk, nice one

Secondly:


But why should flipping be disallowed in the first place? Players are paying rake and it's not like it's some sort of collusion that hurts a 3rd player. It's just a way of saving time and still gambling. I'm just genuinely curious why some people object so much to it

Here is what SBR brass think about flippers.

Your time will come...

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/poker/3338500-question-sbr-admins-regarding-flipping-p2.html

This type of activity is what's killing ring game participation. Let's weed it out and tar & feather whomever has been responsible moving forward. Whatever has happened to this point is water under the bridge, but let's keep playing and hopefully attract more to come join us at the ring tables and MTT's. More participation will equal bigger contests in the future.

I've always said it and that's why I'll never go to bat in any matter - even not related to poker - for any poster I've seen flip. We could have a big conversation about a poster behind the scenes and if I know you're a flipper, I'll sink you. I'd rather they be banned and gone or at least banished in the good books aka I'll never do you a favour or give you the benefit of the doubt than me ever stick up for them. Either learn how to play poker or stop playing. Flipping is the equivalent of scamming... both the result of jackoffs who aren't good enough to manage a rollover properly.

The whole point of poker points and ring games is not to generate rake firstly. We make a nominal amount. It's to encourage more users to play poker with one another and have a good time. Flipping to coast through a rollover and then settling up after not only defeats the purpose of this, it is against the spirit of the program, and from this point forward we will begin issuing warnings for this activity.

If you want to flip to legitimately flip, that's OK, but don't then go and make an adjustment with your points nullifying the flip to breeze through rollover. We appreciate you guys for bringing this up.

[bobbywaves]

But why should flipping be disallowed in the first place? Players are paying rake and it's not like it's some sort of collusion that hurts a 3rd player. It's just a way of saving time and still gambling. I'm just genuinely curious why some people object so much to it

[Optional]

Keep flapping your mouth Bobby.

You will definitely be #1 on the list to be cut zero slack after laughing so hard about how little you care

I'll make double sure Shari doesn't forget the above if you step 1/16th inch out of line.

[bobbywaves]

Keep flapping your mouth Bobby.

You will definitely be #1 on the list to be cut zero slack after laughing so hard about how little you care

I'll make double sure Shari doesn't forget the above if you step 1/16th inch out of line.

What are you talking about, "laughing so hard about how little I care"? Please elaborate.

Still complaining about flippers? You may want to read this again:

If you want to flip to legitimately flip, that's OK, but don't then go and make an adjustment with your points nullifying the flip to breeze through rollover.

By the way, I was playing Omaha cash game last night with Gummo & others. Which turned out to be flipping anyway. Didn't see you at the table.

[Auto Donk]

Keep flapping your mouth Bobby.

You will definitely be #1 on the list to be cut zero slack after laughing so hard about how little you care

I'll make double sure Shari doesn't forget the above if you step 1/16th inch out of line.

waves is always flappin', even when he's not talkin'.... those flappy of his flap with his every move......

[yisman]

So now what's left is bigorange's behavior at more full tables or when he is alone at a table. Numerous times he has been sitting at a table alone with 1500 or 2000 and refused to play when I min buy in, most recently calling me a roosterlicker for daring to buy in for that amount.

dlowilly.... take it easy....

big orange is still kinda riding high as the result of winning the Bash trny last month..... he's now a "big shot" and is throwing his weight and ego around a bit.....

it'll pass and he'll stop barking out orders to you in due to time..... for now, just ignore him.... if you click the buyin button and sbr lets you on the table, play and have a good time..... if anyone has a problem with you being there, they can leave.... don't sweat it.....

[snapperman2]

Big Orange is a roosterlicker.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Big Orange is a roosterlicker.

says the jerkoff who won back to back hands today as a 75 percent underdog to win the 3pm

biggest fukin bingo player on SBR

[JAKEPEAVY21]

says the jerkoff who won back to back hands today as a 75 percent underdog to win the 3pm

biggest fukin bingo player on SBR

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Jake might be out in your area end of this month / beginning of next.....let me know if you're in town

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Jake might be out in your area end of this month / beginning of next.....let me know if you're in town

I should be, keep me posted...

[SnakesPicks]

Wow, that's a lot of drama. Really making me want to delve into playing poker here. lol

[oiler]

LIke a damn soap opera...If players are so set into flipping and sbr isn't worried about it.They should just set table just or he flippers

[bobbywaves]

If players are so set into flipping and sbr isn't worried about it.They should just set table just for the flippers

Gr8 suggestion, annoying being interrupted by non flippers.

[RudyRuetigger]

I actually started the flipping around these parts (for nonrollover points) years ago, and if I see someone flipping to complete rollovers, I will sit just to fukk up their game

[snapperman2]

says the jerkoff who won back to back hands today as a 75 percent underdog to win the 3pm

biggest fukin bingo player on SBR

You cry like a little bitch when you lose.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

You cry like a little bitch when you lose.

great comeback. Took all of 24 hours to come up with that one.

Lets wager on the fact that your final total in this promotion would not qualify you for either US team.

[BigOrange]

Big Orange is a roosterlicker.

Snatcherman LOL!

This fukkin guy runs away from the table faster than Speedy Gonzales when I show up!

[bobbywaves]

I actually started the flipping around these parts (for nonrollover points) years ago

Congrats on being the first moron to flip for "non rollover pts," makes no sense.

and if I see someone flipping to complete rollovers, I will sit just to fukk up their game

Of course, wouldn't expect anything less from an alcoholic with no life.

[snapperman2]

I only run away because I don't like to play with roosterlickers.

[BeerDog99]

Congrats on being the first moron to flip for "non rollover pts," makes no sense.

Of course you do not know the reality of where/why flipping came from and likely why SBR has allowed it.

Flipping was about gambling and not losing the least amount of points.
Given most people did not even-up after, like you did to completely to negate any gamble in the bets, you are truly lucky you did not get banned.

Flipping as you do is both against the spirit of why people do it and against the spirit of the forum SBR hosts for us but you would not understand it nor care as you are miser and hoarder of points to try and measure your self worth.