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He was sick.
Not tired or hurt.
Just stop, Embid is runner up.
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So?
Bet the chalk, you'll lose.
Embid can't do what Jokic does.
There's a reason why he's reigning MVP.
Embid had a nice little season, Jokic sealed the deal last night.
Just ask Maria Taylor.
It's over.
Done.
Out, good bye.Comment -
Embid is set up tonight to have a big game.
He's got Harden back and it looks like Tristan Thompson is going to be on him.
Even I could rag doll Thompson and I'm 5' 7.5" 172 lbs and over 40 for the love of God.
If Embid sucks like the other night you know there's something wrong with him.Comment -
Another dominating gameComment -
Not even close to what Jokic did last night.
Jokic's game last night was one of the greatest overall ever played.
Embid's matchup tonight was one of the softess any center will ever see.
21 shots 33 percent of all the shots so far Philly has taken has been Embid.
He wants the MVP so bad.
Funny thing is he ain't winning it.
They're still talking about Jokic.
I'm not hating of Embid, he's having a nice little season, Jokic is having a season for the ages.Comment -
Cousins is giving Denver some solid minutes too, which means Denver will likely use Jokic less and probably rest him on the second night of some back to backs as wellComment -
BOOM
(as somebody likes too say)
Back to back consecutive triple/doubles.
He did it tonight in just 22 minutes.
My only regret is only buying 100 dollars of Jokic at +300 last month.
This conversation is over.
/enddiscussion
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My feelings towards him doesn't factor into anything.
I was taught to "consider the source"
I have no feelings towards him, except that he's the most annoying person drawing breath.
Jokic is having an historic season, and after tonight the ones who don't realize that, will now,Comment -
Embiid completely dominated this game. Denver was down almost double digits in the second half. Embiid dominates defensively, Jokic again, is barely average defensively.Comment -
Is anybody more valuable to their team than Doncic? At this point, it’s still Embid’s, but man Doncic is playing great - and winning. Embid has so much more talent around him…Comment -
Just stop with the elite defender bullshit.
Last year's defensive player of the year award.
That's seven points, not votes by the way.
He got one second, and a couple of booby prize votes.
I am not worthy.
Do some research, top five center of all time my ass, maybe top three center of 2022 would be more accurate.
Voting Per Game Shooting Advanced Rank Player Age Tm First Pts Won Pts Max Share G MP PTS TRB AST STL BLK FG% 3P% FT% WS WS/48 1 Rudy Gobert 28 UTA 84 464 500 0.928 71 30.8 14.3 13.5 1.3 0.6 2.7 0.675 0 0.623 11.3 0.248 2 Ben Simmons 24 PHI 15 287 500 0.574 58 32.4 14.3 7.2 6.9 1.6 0.6 0.557 0.3 0.613 6 0.153 3 Draymond Green 30 GSW 0 76 500 0.152 63 31.5 7 7.1 8.9 1.7 0.8 0.447 0.27 0.795 4.6 0.112 4 Bam Adebayo 23 MIA 1 31 500 0.062 64 33.5 18.7 9 5.4 1.2 1 0.57 0.25 0.799 8.8 0.197 5 Giannis Antetokounmpo 26 MIL 0 12 500 0.024 61 33 28.1 11 5.9 1.2 1.2 0.569 0.303 0.685 10.2 0.244 6 Clint Capela 26 ATL 0 10 500 0.02 63 30.1 15.2 14.3 0.8 0.7 2 0.594 0.573 8.2 0.207 7 Joel Embiid 26 PHI 0 7 500 0.014 51 31.1 28.5 10.6 2.8 1 1.4 0.513 0.377 0.859 8.8 0.266 8 Jrue Holiday 30 MIL 0 6 500 0.012 59 32.3 17.7 4.5 6.1 1.6 0.6 0.503 0.392 0.787 6.6 0.165 9 Myles Turner 24 IND 0 3 500 0.006 47 31 12.6 6.5 1 0.9 3.4 0.477 0.335 0.782 3.3 0.11 10 Jimmy Butler 31 MIA 0 2 500 0.004 52 33.6 21.5 6.9 7.1 2.1 0.3 0.497 0.245 0.863 9.3 0.255 11T Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 27 LAL 0 1 500 0.002 67 28.4 9.7 2.7 1.9 0.9 0.4 0.431 0.41 0.866 4.2 0.107 11T Matisse Thybulle 23 PHI 0 1 500 0.002 65 20 3.9 1.9 1 1.6 1.1 0.42 0.301 0.444 2.8 0.102 Comment -
How exactly is Embid one of the top five centers of all time?
Top PER seasons in NBA history
Nikola Jokic 2021-22 DEN 32.3 G. Antetokounmpo 2021-22 MIL 32.0 G. Antetokounmpo 2019-20 MIL 31.9 Michael Jordan 1987-88 CHI 31.7 LeBron James 2008-09 CLE 31.7 Michael Jordan 1990-91 CHI 31.6 LeBron James 2012-13 MIA 31.6 Stephen Curry 2015-16 GSW 31.5 Nikola Jokic 2020-21 DEN 31.3 Joel Embiid 2021-22 PHI 31.0 Comment -
Jokic is a better shooter (look at the percentages)
Jokic is a better ball handler.
Jokic is a better rebounder (look at the RPG averages)
Jokic is clearly the better all around center and it's not even close.
Please stop talking, the facts are burying you.
MVP Candidates' PER and BPM
Nikola Jokic Den 32.3 13.9 G. Antetokounmpo Mil 32.0 11.1 Joel Embiid Phi 31.3 9.5 (BIG GAP) (BIG GAP) LeBron James LAL 26.4 7.7 Kevin Durant Bkn 26.1 7.4 Rudy Gobert Uta 25.3 5.1 Trae Young Atl 25.2 4.7 Ja Morant Mem 25.1 6.6 DeMar DeRozan Chi 24.2 3.1 Luka Doncic Dal 24.1 7.4 Steph Curry GS 21.9 5.9 Comment -
I'm bringing a shotgun (data, facts, and figures) to his cap pistol (misguided opinions, fluff, and no data) to a fight.
Who's going to win Chargers4222?
My money is on the dude with the shotgun.
Unless the OP can counter the facts with opinions backed with stone cold proof, my work here is done.Comment -
Again, the difference in strength of schedule is huge. The West has no depth.Embiid was also hurt at the beginning of the year.
Embiid physically dominates games, he protects the paint, he's the best player in the NBA right now.
Jokic is a finesse player who isn't even average defensively. Embiid had 3 blocks last night, Jokic will take 3 months to have another 3 block game.
This isn't even close.Comment -
Embiid has got this easily. It'd be more of a shock if jokic got it again than when Nash got b2b over the likes of dirk and Kobe the second yrComment -
Blocked shots is a meaningless stat, keep reaching,
Wrong, again.
Do your homework.
Embid and Jokic are even on defense.
Your opinions with out facts are meaningless.
Facts are.
Jokic and Embid are pretty much equal on defense.
The NBA facts trump your misguided opinion
Jokic is more efficient.
Jokic is far the superior play maker, Jokic has superior ball skills, the assists say so, not just me.
Jokic is clearly the better shooter, the FG % says so.
And Jokic is the better rebounder, the rebound average per game says so.
How can, as you say, Embid be one of the top five greatest centers of all time, when he barely the second best in 2022.
*mic drop*
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The betting market has Embiid as the prohibitive favorite.Blocked shots is a meaningless stat, keep reaching,
Wrong, again.
Do your homework.
Embid and Jokic are even on defense.
Your opinions with out facts are meaningless.
Facts are.
Jokic and Embid are pretty much equal on defense.
The NBA facts trump your misguided opinion
Jokic is more efficient.
Jokic is far the superior play maker, Jokic has superior ball skills, the assists say so, not just me.
Jokic is clearly the better shooter, the FG % says so.
And Jokic is the better rebounder, the rebound average per game says so.
How can, as you say, Embid be one of the top five greatest centers of all time, when he barely the second best in 2022.
*mic drop*
OUT
Embiid is better at everything ,everything, than Jokic, except passing.
Embiid takes over games, he dominates physically, he guards every position on the floor and protects the paint.
Jokic is a finesse player who isn't even average defensively.
The markets are right, Embiid is the clear favorite to be MVP.Comment -
Jokic one of the worst defending bigs in the league, everyone knows it. Guards drive the paint when he's standing there bc they know he won't block or foulComment
