Good Value on Joel Embiid to win the MVP at +1600

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  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
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    #281
    Originally posted by d2bets
    I'm starting to think that you are banned from accessing every website other than SBR.

    Emiid avg is 11.2 rebounds per game
    Jokic avg is 13.8 rebounds per game

    But I stand corrected. I was wrong about 20%. Jokic is actually averaging over 23% more rebounds per game.

    Jokic shoots more 3's.

    And...oh fukk it. Who the hell has time to correct all your fake numbers. You live in your own alternate reality.
    I'm going to talk really slowly this time - so you have a chance to follow.

    The way statistics work is that you need a large sample size to draw any meaningful long-term conclusion.

    Embiid averages 11.3 rebounds for his career and 11.2 rebounds this year.

    Jokic averages 10.2 rebounds for his career.

    Now Jokic does average 13.8 rebounds this year - so far- which is less than 60 games.

    But the data is clear - and it's not even close. Embiid is a far better rebounder, again, a far better rebounder.

    Shut up and buy a tv, you know nothing.




    As for shooting.

    Yes, Jokic shoots more 3's, the difference is negligible between the 2, but Jokic does shoot more 3's. I didn't say 3's though, I said shoot. Embiid shoots more in general. Embiid is a far better midrange shooter so he shoots more shots further from the hoop.

    You seem intellectually limited, just stop.
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    • thomorino
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      #282
      Originally posted by d2bets
      I'm starting to think that you are banned from accessing every website other than SBR.

      Emiid avg is 11.2 rebounds per game
      Jokic avg is 13.8 rebounds per game

      But I stand corrected. I was wrong about 20%. Jokic is actually averaging over 23% more rebounds per game.

      Jokic shoots more 3's.

      And...oh fukk it. Who the hell has time to correct all your fake numbers. You live in your own alternate reality.
      So based on your percentage number Embiid is getting about 40% more rebounds than Jokic for his career.

      You're done.
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      • d2bets
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        #283
        Originally posted by thomorino
        So based on your percentage number Embiid is getting about 40% more rebounds than Jokic for his career.

        You're done.
        You: "Jokic plays with smaller players so of course he will get more rebounds, the difference in rebounds per game between Jokic and Embiid this year is less than 1, your 20 percent number is a lie."

        Plus, I thought this thread was about the MVP this year.
        Last edited by d2bets; 02-18-22, 02:55 PM.
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        • Buckandadime
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          • 04-21-15
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          #284
          I don't know why he keeps spouting false information to try and make a case for Embiid over Jokic..
          He supposedly has futures on both players..
          What's gonna happen when Joker wins without an Embiid injury?
          Lets watch.....
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          • chargers4222
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            • 01-16-10
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            #285
            Originally posted by thomorino
            Dumb posts from dumb people.

            Jokic passes more than Embiid because he's not as good of a scorer as him, so he has too.

            Again, Embiid has the far bigger defensive impact as well, Embiid is a rim protector and a far superior one on one defender to Jokic.
            to*
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            • d2bets
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              #286
              Originally posted by Buckandadime
              I don't know why he keeps spouting false information to try and make a case for Embiid over Jokic..
              He supposedly has futures on both players..
              What's gonna happen when Joker wins without an Embiid injury?
              Lets watch.....
              What's gonna happen when neither of them wins.
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              • las8
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                • 09-09-09
                • 1262

                #287
                Originally posted by d2bets
                What's gonna happen when neither of them wins.
                Then he'll cash his curry +130 bet he made on 1/8! You think thom doesn't have all his bases covered?! pshhh... He's a professional.
                Last edited by las8; 02-18-22, 05:27 PM.
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                • JIBBBY
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                  • 12-10-09
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                  #288
                  Good value on Embiid getting injured before playoff time. It's his M.O.

                  Same goes for AD who just badly sprained his ankle and is OUT. Both walking injuries waiting to happen.
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                  • thomorino
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                    Good value on Embiid getting injured before playoff time. It's his M.O.

                    Same goes for AD who just badly sprained his ankle and is OUT. Both walking injuries waiting to happen.
                    Embiid is a different player and person now. He's married, has kids. He also knew coming into the season he wouldn't have Simmons and he's in the best shape he's been in before.

                    Fluke injuries can happen, but Embiid is the strongest he's ever been.
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                    • vitterd
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                      #290
                      Originally posted by las8
                      Then he'll cash his curry +130 bet he made on 1/8! You think thom doesn't have all his bases covered?! pshhh... He's a professional.
                      He doesn’t grade futures that lose.
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                      • d2bets
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                        #291
                        Originally posted by las8
                        Then he'll cash his curry +130 bet he made on 1/8! You think thom doesn't have all his bases covered?! pshhh... He's a professional.
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                        • thomorino
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                          #292
                          Originally posted by d2bets
                          I haven't seen you post a single bet or track anything. You wouldn't last a day posting picks.
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                          • thomorino
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                            #293
                            The MVP bet on Curry was very small and before he began dealing with some injury issues.
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                            • thomorino
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                              #294
                              I've sold about 25% of my exposure in bets on Embiid that are at 6-1 on prop swap - I still think he's going to be MVP but there is always injury risk as I state before.

                              My largest bet by far that I made at 34-1 on Embiid I still have.
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                              • shadymcgrady
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                                • 02-27-12
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                                #295
                                Nice call, embiid finally maturing and putting it all together
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                                • d2bets
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                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by thomorino
                                  I've sold about 25% of my exposure in bets on Embiid that are at 6-1 on prop swap - I still think he's going to be MVP but there is always injury risk as I state before.

                                  My largest bet by far that I made at 34-1 on Embiid I still have.
                                  Wait wait wait....you sold part of your bet and gave somebody 6-1???
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                                  • thomorino
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                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                    Wait wait wait....you sold part of your bet and gave somebody 6-1???
                                    No. I have Bets on Embiid at many prices, including 34 to 1, 6 to 1, and 2 to 1.

                                    I sold some of my bets I have on Embiid at 6-1 and one of the smaller bets I have on Embiid at 30-1. I sold those bets at the price of 2-1.
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                                    • thomorino
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                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                      Wait wait wait....you sold part of your bet and gave somebody 6-1???
                                      I sold at the price of 2-1, obviously not 6-1.
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                                      • Bostongambler
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                                        #299
                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                        Wait wait wait....you sold part of your bet and gave somebody 6-1???
                                        Hahahaha hahahaha. d2, don’t even try with this guy. 😂
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                                        • d2bets
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                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                          Hahahaha hahahaha. d2, don’t even try with this guy. 
                                          The dude finally made one good value play and then he gave it away. Now that's thomoronic.
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                                          • Bostongambler
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                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                            The dude finally made one good value play and then he gave it away. Now that's thomoronic.
                                            Lol... Let’s see him explain this one away.
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                                            • thomorino
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                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by Bostongambler

                                              Hahahaha hahahaha. d2, don’t even try with this guy. 
                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                              The dude finally made one good value play and then he gave it away. Now that's thomoronic.
                                              Originally posted by Bostongambler

                                              Lol... Let’s see him explain this one away.
                                              Wrong, I've had many good plays, my records are strong across the board.

                                              I just said I still have 75% of my bets, I sold at couple at 300% profits at a price of 2-1.
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                                              • d2bets
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                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                Wrong, I've had many good plays, my records are strong across the board.

                                                I just said I still have 75% of my bets, I sold at couple at 300% profits at a price of 2-1.
                                                But why the hell would you sell any at -600? Should be +250 at worst.
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                                                • thomorino
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                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  But why the hell would you sell any at -600? Should be +250 at worst.
                                                  Again, you aren't listening

                                                  I sold at the price of 2-1

                                                  Obviously when you sell to someone you can't sell at the market price

                                                  I sold 6-1 at the price of 2-1, and I sold one 30-1 ticket at the price of 2-1
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                                                  • thomorino
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                                                    #305
                                                    The books obviously don't always offer fair value in the futures market, I view Embiid at 2-1 to win the MVP as the fair value price right now.
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                                                    • thomorino
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                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      But why the hell would you sell any at -600? Should be +250 at worst.
                                                      Again, I sold at +200, not +250, or -600, I think you meant +600 here, but that's not the price I sold at either.
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                                                      • Bostongambler
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                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                        But why the hell would you sell any at -600? Should be +250 at worst.
                                                        Themoron please answer this question.
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                                                        • thomorino
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                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                                          But why the hell would you sell any at -600? Should be +250 at worst.
                                                          I sold at the price of +200, for 300% profits.

                                                          I sold at +200 not -600, I think he meant +600 here.
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                                                          • goduke
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                                                            #309
                                                            You would think someone with strong across the board numbers wouldn’t need to scared hedge on this and would have the ability with their big profits to be aggressive in the market knowing they dominate sports betting.
                                                            This move just tells a different story. Actions always speak louder than words.
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                                                            • Str8Mush4Life
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                                                              • 11-25-13
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                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by thomorino
                                                              Embiid came into the NBA at age 18, his wasn't physically read for the NBA. I don't give a shit about previous years.

                                                              Embiid is in great shape now and he's a physically dominant player who plays hard on both sides.

                                                              Jokic is a finesse player who barely plays defense.

                                                              There isn't a single GM in entire NBA who would take Jokic over Embiid.

                                                              Not 1.
                                                              All of these posts and I'm surprised no one noticed the fact that Morino said that Embiid came into the league at 18 years old.......
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                                                              • Bostongambler
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                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by thomorino
                                                                I sold at the price of +200, for 300% profits.

                                                                I sold at +200 not -600, I think he meant +600 here.
                                                                Yes, we know what he meant. That’s a ton of “ value” that you gave back.


                                                                We used to have a guy who bet two favorite heavy ML parlays. One early game , one late. And if the first game won he would hedge on the second game by taking the dog. And his logic was that at least he can’t lose. I even told him that he is giving back ton of value at this point. He didn’t get it, much like you seem to not get it either.
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                                                                • thomorino
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                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by goduke
                                                                  You would think someone with strong across the board numbers wouldn’t need to scared hedge on this and would have the ability with their big profits to be aggressive in the market knowing they dominate sports betting.
                                                                  This move just tells a different story. Actions always speak louder than words.
                                                                  My actions show in profitable and don't need to take excessive risk. Just stop.
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                                                                  • thomorino
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                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by Bostongambler
                                                                    Yes, we know what he meant. That’s a ton of “ value” that you gave back.


                                                                    We used to have a guy who bet two favorite heavy ML parlays. One early game , one late. And if the first game won he would hedge on the second game by taking the dog. And his logic was that at least he can’t lose. I even told him that he is giving back ton of value at this point. He didn’t get it, much like you seem to not get it either.
                                                                    2-1 is current market value in my opinion. I sold for a 300 percent profit at what I believe is current market value. You don't understand markets or value.
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                                                                    • shadymcgrady
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                                                                      • 02-27-12
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                                                                      #314
                                                                      I've taken embiid over the yrs to win MVP and it was frustrating bc of injuries or mentality but it looks like he's finally put it all together now. Good bet for all that did this yr
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                                                                      • stevenash
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                                                                        • 01-17-11
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                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by Str8Mush4Life
                                                                        All of these posts and I'm surprised no one noticed the fact that Morino said that Embiid came into the league at 18 years old.......
                                                                        Twenty, and didn't play his first NBA game until he was 22.
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