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		Good Value on Joel Embiid to win the MVP at +1600
				
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	Str8Mush4LifeSBR MVP
- 11-25-13
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#456He's got birthday bones today.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#457Rivers worst coach NBA
Epic failure in playoffs unlike any coach history of nbaComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#458Embiid should have a huge game today with Allen out, Cleveland has nothing in the middle.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#459Originally posted by thomorinoEmbiid dominated Jokic in every way, Philly was, again, +10 with Embiid on the court.[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]01:38[/COLOR]
MISS Embiid 3' Layup
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]01:36[/COLOR]
Morris REBOUND (Off:0 Def:3)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]01:32112 - 108[/COLOR]
Jokic 5' Running Jump Shot (21 PTS) (Morris 6 AST)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]01:21[/COLOR]
MISS Maxey 24' 3PT Jump Shot
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]01:17[/COLOR]
Harris REBOUND (Off:1 Def:5)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]01:15[/COLOR]
MISS Niang 27' 3PT Jump Shot
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]01:11[/COLOR]
Jokic REBOUND (Off:1 Def:11)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]54.7[/COLOR]
Jokic Out Of Bounds - Bad Pass Turnover Turnover (P5.T14)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]54.7[/COLOR]76ERS Timeout: Regular (Full 5 Short 0)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]48.8[/COLOR]
Harden Bad Pass Turnover (P4.T13)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]48.8[/COLOR]
Ja. Green STEAL (1 STL)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]28.0[/COLOR]
MISS Hyland 3PT Jump Shot
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]25.4[/COLOR]
Embiid REBOUND (Off:3 Def:6)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]17.8112 - 110[/COLOR]
Maxey 3' Driving Layup (19 PTS) (Harris 1 AST)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.7[/COLOR]
Maxey Personal Take Foul (P2.T2) (J.DeRosa)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.7[/COLOR]
SUB: Thybulle FOR Embiid
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.4[/COLOR]
Thybulle Personal Take Foul (P4.PN) (E.Lewis)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.4[/COLOR]
MISS Barton Free Throw 1 Of 2
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.4[/COLOR]Nuggets Rebound
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.4[/COLOR]
SUB: Embiid FOR Thybulle
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.4[/COLOR]
SUB: Rivers FOR Hyland
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]14.4113 - 110[/COLOR]
Barton Free Throw 2 Of 2 (20 PTS)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]4.9[/COLOR]
MISS Niang 24' 3PT Jump Shot
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]3.8[/COLOR]
Niang REBOUND (Off:1 Def:3)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]2.6[/COLOR]
MISS Niang 5' Floating Jump Shot
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]1.3[/COLOR]
Jokic REBOUND (Off:1 Def:12)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]0.0[/COLOR]
Niang P.FOUL (P2.PN) (J.DeRosa)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]0.0[/COLOR]
SUB: Thybulle FOR Embiid
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]0.0114 - 110[/COLOR]
Jokic Free Throw 1 Of 2 (22 PTS)
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]0.0[/COLOR]
MISS Jokic Free Throw 2 Of 2
[COLOR=rgba(84,84,84,var(--text-opacity))]0.0[/COLOR]
Harris REBOUND (Off:1 Def:6)Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#460that worked well
							
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	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#461Embiid is questionable tonight, I'd expect him to play, but he did take that fall in the final 2 minutes of last gameComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#462Might be good for them to play without the big guy... give Harden a chance to settle in. They'd presumably be a dog in Cleveland without him, so no pressure.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#463DJ is awful though... surprised they chose him over WCS -Doc has a connection with him from the Clippers days so I guess that's why.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	IBetYouSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-03-15
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#464final 2mins of the prior game above btwComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	BuckandadimeSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-21-15
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#465It really sucks when you fall...Originally posted by thomorinoEmbiid is questionable tonight, I'd expect him to play, but he did take that fall in the final 2 minutes of last game
Poor guy..
Soft..Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#466Actually he's played almost every game this year.Originally posted by BuckandadimeIt really sucks when you fall...
Poor guy..
Soft..Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#467Embiid is in and rolling as usualComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	oldmanTEDSBR High Roller
- 08-14-07
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#468Originally posted by thomorinoEmbiid is questionable tonight, I'd expect him to play, but he did take that fall in the final 2 minutes of last game
He has a double double with 5 minutes left in the second quarter.
Great first half for him.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	juicernameSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-14-15
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#469Embiid +7 at half Jokic +14.
Second half won't matter much as both teams have big leads. Jokic already MVP for today's games.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#470And believe it or not Jokic has a better 1H line when you factor in the assists.Originally posted by oldmanTEDHe has a double double with 5 minutes left in the second quarter.
Great first half for him.
17/9/6
Jokic is one rebound from a double/double with six assists.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#471Fixed your postOriginally posted by juicernameEmbiid +7 at half Jokic +14.
Second half won't matter much as both teams have big leads. Jokic already MVP for the yearComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#472These two jabronis are throwing up pinball numbers.
Embid is 27/14
Jokic had 24/11/7Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	juicernameSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-14-15
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#473Embiid -1 and costing his team the game while Denver is cruising.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	juicernameSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-14-15
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#474Jokic +19, that's a 20 point swing compared to Embiid for the mathematically challenged.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#475So overrated.Originally posted by juicernameJokic +19, that's a 20 point swing compared to Embiid for the mathematically challenged.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#476Washington is the worst defensive team in the league, Cleveland is a good defensive team - stop, you know nothing.Originally posted by juicernameJokic +19, that's a 20 point swing compared to Embiid for the mathematically challenged.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#477Embiid with yet another huge night - 35 points, 17 rebounds
Again, a better night than Jokic
All Embiid has to do is playing the final 14 games and he is the MVPComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#478No, the way sports works is you have to take into account strength of schedule, Cleveland is a far better team than WashingtonOriginally posted by juicernameEmbiid +7 at half Jokic +14.
Second half won't matter much as both teams have big leads. Jokic already MVP for today's games.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	oldmanTEDSBR High Roller
- 08-14-07
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#479Both great players. Fun to watch the last week.
Tonight
Embid 35/17/5
Jokic 29/13/8
Jokic with much less minutes.(8)
Embid going against a team 10 games over and Washington 10 games under.
Both players had great games and both teams won.
Argue all you want.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	USCPHILLYGUYSBR Posting Legend
- 12-15-12
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#480Well said Ted. Well saidOriginally posted by oldmanTEDBoth great players. Fun to watch the last week.
Tonight
Embid 35/17/5
Jokic 29/13/8
Jokic with much less minutes.(8)
Embid going against a team 10 games over and Washington 10 games under.
Both players had great games and both teams won.
Argue all you want.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#481Could not have said it better myself.Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUYWell said Ted. Well said
Too bad Malone sat Jokic in the fourth (no complaints, it was 100 percent the correct thing to do)
I would have loved to see what kind of numbers Jokic would have put up if he had his final eight minute run.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	juicernameSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-14-15
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#482Embiid - 5, almost cost his team the game trying to pad his stats.Originally posted by thomorinoEmbiid with yet another huge night - 35 points, 17 rebounds
Again, a better night than Jokic
All Embiid has to do is playing the final 14 games and he is the MVP
Jokic did his thing, helped the team win comfortably. True MVPComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
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#483Jokic a beast
So many nba
Even TownsComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	WrongsideSBR MVP
- 09-26-15
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#484Embid is a beast.
Nevertheless the rankings are:
1. Jokic
2.,Luka
3. Embid
1and 2 are superb in 3 categories.
3 is only great in 2.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#485And number 3 bricks too many shots and is getting out rebounded by number 1.Originally posted by WrongsideEmbid is a beast.
Nevertheless the rankings are:
1. Jokic
2.,Luka
3. Embid
1and 2 are superb in 3 categories.
3 is only great in 2.
Number 1 had the more efficient game tonight.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#486Embid is having a bad week.
First Jokic shit all over Embid the other night, and then Jokic out performed Embid yet again.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#487Embiid took over the game and dominated, as usual he had a better game than Jokic. He was -5 because he played with the bench that is horrible.Originally posted by juicernameEmbiid - 5, almost cost his team the game trying to pad his stats.
Jokic did his thing, helped the team win comfortably. True MVPComment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#488Embiid so thoroughly dominated Jokic that Jokic gave up trying to score.Originally posted by stevenashEmbid is having a bad week.
First Jokic shit all over Embid the other night, and then Jokic out performed Embid yet again.
+10 to -2, Bones Heyland had to bail Jokic out.
Bones Heyland.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#489I remember Embid badly missing a four foot bunny late in the fourth quarter that hit the side of the rim that Jokic gobbled up like a fat kid on a jelly donut, the next thing you know Embid was on the floor.Originally posted by thomorinoEmbiid so thoroughly dominated Jokic that Jokic gave up trying to score.
+10 to -2, Bones Heyland had to bail Jokic out.
Bones Heyland.
Jokic made Embid his personal meat puppet late in that game.
Considering who was on the floor with Embid and considering who was on the floor with Jokic and the other four Nuggets that BPM stat you cite is skewed
Bottom line, Jokic ate him up, bottom line Jokic's season +/- is greater, much greater than Embid's , and bottom line you don't know how BPM is calculated and you don't understand it.
And don't give me that Jokic's season long +/- is greater because Denver plays a soft schedule and the East has better teams.
Fact of the matter, ask those who understand all this (like me) Philadelphia has the eight toughest played to date, Denver has the ninth toughest, and the difference between the two is 0.009.
Just stop, the facts say you don't know what you're talking about, because if you knew how +/- is calculated and how it's applied, and if you knew how SoS is determined you would know what you are saying.
Just stop.Comment - 
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
	
		
			
				
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	thomorinoRestricted User
- 06-01-17
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#490Wrong, again, you have to adjust strength of schedule for the difference between the conferences.
Again, Embiid dominated Jokic heads up, and it wasn't close.
Embiid is now -150 to be MVP at draftkings PA.Comment 
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