Stock Market Discussion -- started 03/06/2018 -- updated daily !!!

[keely85]

Honestly I might just start shorting anytime trump talks. The markets ALWAYS fall

[KVB]

Being patient here.

There should be some decent bumps to ride, but I'm not trying to hit the peak or trough.

I just want to be somewhere in the miiddle during accumulation. I just don't feel comfortable hitting any shorts real hard, maybe I'll trinker around.

[CappinTerp]

Hey guys...FYI - Today Trump said he is not considering a nationwide lock down.A few days ago Trump gave FEMA sweeping powers,because they are good at that. Today I talked to my sister,she told me that she has a friend that knows a person that works at FEMA. Next week FEMA will announce for a nation wide lock down!!!!! I don't know if this will happen...just some Intel for you guys..........................gl

[Sanity Check]

Hopefully this is completely irrelevent conspiracy theory nonsense.

[keely85]

We will have to see if Jared green lights the national lockdown.

[Sanity Check]

Hopefully this is completely irrelevent conspiracy theory nonsense.

BTW. 500,000 FEMA plastic coffins above.

Below, we have this.

https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-us-hospitals-preparing-for-millions-of-hospitalizations-2020-3

480,000 expected deaths due to chinese virus.



500,000 coffins reported by Alex Jones more than 10 years ago.

480,000 expected fatalities reported today.

If this ends up being a Cinderella story where the glass slipper fits all too well.

........

[pavyracer]

BTW. 500,000 FEMA plastic coffins above.

Below, we have this.

https://www.businessinsider.com/presentation-us-hospitals-preparing-for-millions-of-hospitalizations-2020-3

480,000 expected deaths due to chinese virus.



500,000 coffins reported by Alex Jones more than 10 years ago.

480,000 expected fatalities reported today.

If this ends up being a Cinderella story where the glass slipper fits all too well.

........

No need for 500,000 coffins. Most victims are cremated.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Hey guys...FYI - Today Trump said he is not considering a nationwide lock down.A few days ago Trump gave FEMA sweeping powers,because they are good at that. Today I talked to my sister,she told me that she has a friend that knows a person that works at FEMA. Next week FEMA will announce for a nation wide lock down!!!!! I don't know if this will happen...just some Intel for you guys..........................gl

FEMA can't mandate a lockdown. That has to happen at the government, state, local level. I know there was talk with Trump and the military and I thought it would have been announced a week ago but I guess he's going to leave it up to the states. Cali is on lockdown but what does that really mean? Folks can still go to get food.

[Madison]

Oil keeps getting lower

major impact on economy

we are close to an unreal buying opportunity we have not seen since 2008

You're better at stocks than sports.

Bought USO yesterday to start a position. Up 23% in a day and closed position, thinking it would likely go lower and happy with 23%.
Down 21% today established same position. This and DBO are guaranteed LONG TERM $$. Most entities can't drill & refine for under $40 a barrel. You may need to wait for attrition but this is a no brainer.

[HockeyRocks]

as usual sleazebag don didn't do the market any good today for being the ass-hole he is and telling the lies he continues to tell everyday.

[Madison]

Dow probably dips below 18000 today. Damn 401’s/ retirements getting slaughtered across the globe.

Half, aren't aware until they get their quarterly statements early April. We'll see what happens then. One can only be buy and hold for so long.

[Shafted69]

Market needs a ventilator. S&P lost 2350 support next stop is at 2000.

[homie1975]

Half, aren't aware until they get their quarterly statements early April. We'll see what happens then. One can only be buy and hold for so long.

How could they not have online access to their 401Ks in 2020

Lol

[Slurry Pumper]

So the market closes today conveniently close to a previous low. Take a look on the 5 day chart with hourly updates. So we have to wait again and see if the market holds this tested low, or crashes more. Don't jump in now but I won't bother to wait for small percentage taking an initial buy at around 17000 and see if that price allows for stability

[milwaukee mike]

don't let them get away with the global financial reset!

this is mostly a hoax, look at how they instituted martial law within a week in ny/cali/ill/connecticut... all based on the imaginary boogie man floating around in the sky. OH NO those virus particles can stay on surfaces for weeks so don't leave the house! but remember to jam your ass into walmart and cough on each other

does anyone think this makes any penetrating sense whatsoever

[milwaukee mike]

if we go into lockdown i'm going to the areas around marquette/uwm and just starting knocking on doors and humping random horny college girls

that and buying a ferrari before we go venezuela with the helicopter money and hyper-inflation

[keely85]

Viva la milawaukee!

[milwaukee mike]

Viva la milawaukee!

oh shit i forgot i live in milwaukee

pray for me everyone... lot of people here with nothing to lose, and no respect for their own life/property or anyone else's

[d2bets]

don't let them get away with the global financial reset!

this is mostly a hoax, look at how they instituted martial law within a week in ny/cali/ill/connecticut... all based on the imaginary boogie man floating around in the sky. OH NO those virus particles can stay on surfaces for weeks so don't leave the house! but remember to jam your ass into walmart and cough on each other

does anyone think this makes any penetrating sense whatsoever

Seriously? The science and math is kind of obvious.

The only real question is whether we should instead just let it run through and let 1% of the people die within a matter of weeks. And let them die at home because hospitals will be too full. Just let everyone get it and see who dies and survives? It's sort of the ultimate ethics question. Overall, crazy as it is, it's a fair question. Because this is going to lead to a lot of indirect death and suffering.

Fact is if we simply ignored it and went about our lives like it was the flu 70-80% would have it within a month or two and 2-3 million Americans would die in that time. But, if would then end pretty quick. It's true this is not a mass extinction event. The death rate is high in some sense, but not that high. Usually we are thinking of something else when we talk about the 1%ers. Flu season kills 25,000-50,000; this in a season would kill 2-3 million.

Are you doubting the science and math, or what are you saying?

[homie1975]

don't let them get away with the global financial reset!

this is mostly a hoax, look at how they instituted martial law within a week in ny/cali/ill/connecticut... all based on the imaginary boogie man floating around in the sky. OH NO those virus particles can stay on surfaces for weeks so don't leave the house! but remember to jam your ass into walmart and cough on each other

does anyone think this makes any penetrating sense whatsoever

Mike I live in socal. No martial law here. Very lax "lockdown"

[KVB]

Wow guys, this thread turning into shit.

Guys, take the bullshit, uneducated hoax crap to one of the many other threads that get off on that nonsense.

And everyone else, make this post the last one to even address it.

If you're not talking stocks, then get the fuk out of this thread.

Please.

[Slurry Pumper]

Wow guys, this thread turning into shit.

Guys, take the bullshit, uneducated hoax crap to one of the many other threads that get off on that nonsense.

And everyone else, make this post the last one to even address it.

If you're not talking stocks, then get the fuk out of this thread.

Please.

With this said, I think we are going to bust through to new lows next week once the bailout numbers come into play and the death toll rises. I will stepping in slowly as market focus comes into the forefront probably in about 10 days so hang in there and stay liquid. Your chance to blow the wad is coming but you never want to blow it too quick, that just leaves a feeling that doesn't go away.

[KVB]

With this said, I think we are going to bust through to new lows next week once the bailout numbers come into play and the death toll rises. I will stepping in slowly as market focus comes into the forefront probably in about 10 days so hang in there and stay liquid. Your chance to blow the wad is coming but you never want to blow it too quick, that just leaves a feeling that doesn't go away.

I agree. I think I'm sticking with my play of coming back in slowly.

I'm not one to aim for buying at the lowest and selling at the highest. I think with this drop, and the further drops to come, that we have plenty of room to buy in after some confirmation technically that we're moving back to accumulation in general.

That's kind of general speak there, but I think you get my thinking.

Downside is that when it does rise, there could be sharp rises. I figure after those we'll get dips to buy into though.

[bhoor]

I agree. I think I'm sticking with my play of coming back in slowly.

I'm not one to aim for buying at the lowest and selling at the highest. I think with this drop, and the further drops to come, that we have plenty of room to buy in after some confirmation technically that we're moving back to accumulation in general.

That's kind of general speak there, but I think you get my thinking.

Downside is that when it does rise, there could be sharp rises. I figure after those we'll get dips to buy into though.

KVB, you recommend any stocks?
thanks

[Crusherrr]

Seriously? The science and math is kind of obvious.

The only real question is whether we should instead just let it run through and let 1% of the people die within a matter of weeks. And let them die at home because hospitals will be too full. Just let everyone get it and see who dies and survives? It's sort of the ultimate ethics question. Overall, crazy as it is, it's a fair question. Because this is going to lead to a lot of indirect death and suffering.

Fact is if we simply ignored it and went about our lives like it was the flu 70-80% would have it within a month or two and 2-3 million Americans would die in that time. But, if would then end pretty quick. It's true this is not a mass extinction event. The death rate is high in some sense, but not that high. Usually we are thinking of something else when we talk about the 1%ers. Flu season kills 25,000-50,000; this in a season would kill 2-3 million.

Are you doubting the science and math, or what are you saying?

Maybe you're right, however, you're not thinking about the fact that severe cases of this are in the 10-15% range. These are people that need to go to hospital. Obviously if 70% of our population gets this we cant have 10-15% of those people in the hospital.

[d2bets]

Maybe you're right, however, you're not thinking about the fact that severe cases of this are in the 10-15% range. These are people that need to go to hospital. Obviously if 70% of our population gets this we cant have 10-15% of those people in the hospital.

I am thinking of that fact and I agree on that number roughly. But if you do the numbers if we don't mitigate then 70% gets it within a month and it's overwhelming. People don't realize how little capacity ICU's generally have. Usually emergencies are localized and resources from surrounding communities can be utilized. But when it's everywhere all at once AND you have mass sick health care workers, it's a triple whammy.

[KVB]

KVB, you recommend any stocks?
thanks

That's just it, the good ones are still probably the good ones, just cheaper.

But that's why I was so general, can't really pin down particular companies just yet. I figure some essential industry ETF's might even be safest.

I wish I could figure out a list of candidates that will fail during this time, but it seems like everyone's gonna get bailed out.

I liked the USO and DBO ideas, oil, but then again, right before all this the pumping limits expired for Russia and OPEC, they couldn't make a new deal and started a price war. They pumped without restraint and declared that they would. So oil is flooded as it is and was tanking in price. Maybe they rework a deal now that the world demanding is tanking, who knows.

Seems like every industry has it's own story.

I'll get back to all this, but here's a thought.

What about that weed ETF?...MJ.

Everyone talks TP and guns and water, etc, but there was quite the run on weed as well. Many of those places can claim medical need and stay open during lock downs.

This might be a second chance to get in on an industry with incredibly high growth potential.

Although, I question whether they will serve weed drinks in bars, which would be a huge boon, or boom, or both. You might get fukked up and not know it for a couple of hours...lol.

Still, that might not be a bad place to look. Everything is cheaper, that's the reality.

What other industries were taking off, new ones, with high growth potential right before all this? That's a place to look. A second chance sort of.

Weed, electric cars, maybe even some bio tech or big oil that is involved in alt energy as well. Remember, a lot of these things dropped because they were in general funds or ETFs that were sold off, not because someone looked at that company and decided it needed to be sold.

So these things have to be thought about. I'm going to try to screen some things when some of this dust settles. See what we can come up with along those lines of thinking.

[bhoor]

That's just it, the good ones are still probably the good ones, just cheaper.

But that's why I was so general, can't really pin down particular companies just yet. I figure some essential industry ETF's might even be safest.

I wish I could figure out a list of candidates that will fail during this time, but it seems like everyone's gonna get bailed out.

I liked the USO and DBO ideas, oil, but then again, right before all this the pumping limits expired for Russia and OPEC, they couldn't make a new deal and started a price war. They pumped without restraint and declared that they would. So oil is flooded as it is and was tanking in price. Maybe they rework a deal now that the world demanding is tanking, who knows.

Seems like every industry has it's own story.

I'll get back to all this, but here's a thought.

What about that weed ETF?...MJ.

Everyone talks TP and guns and water, etc, but there was quite the run on weed as well. Many of those places can claim medical need and stay open during lock downs.

This might be a second chance to get in on an industry with incredibly high growth potential.

Although, I question whether they will serve weed drinks in bars, which would be a huge boon, or boom, or both. You might get fukked up and not know it for a couple of hours...lol.

Still, that might not be a bad place to look. Everything is cheaper, that's the reality.

What other industries were taking off, new ones, with high growth potential right before all this? That's a place to look. A second chance sort of.

Weed, electric cars, maybe even some bio tech or big oil that is involved in alt energy as well. Remember, a lot of these things dropped because they were in general funds or ETFs that were sold off, not because someone looked at that company and decided it needed to be sold.

So these things have to be thought about. I'm going to try to screen some things when some of this dust settles. See what we can come up with along those lines of thinking.

[KVB]

By the same token, when money comes back into the markets, some of these stocks will go up simply because they are in the ETFs and other baskets and funds that are getting bought up in the market.

[MinnesotaFats]

By the same token, when money comes back into the markets, some of these stocks will go up simply because they are in the ETFs and other baskets and funds that are getting bought up in the market.

This

The reality is 30mm Americans have no income

We are in a recession and aren't coming out of it soon

[homie1975]

Minny the question is will it turn into a full blown Depression

[homie1975]

Greaser and ROYer please check in.

I want to know that u guys are ok in all aspects

[Sanity Check]

ROYer please check in.

He said awhile ago he might be too busy hustling & working to post.

[KVB]

Minny the question is will it turn into a full blown Depression

Yeah, if we cross that line, I'll likely change my strategy and not wait for broader accumulation signs. I'll trade more.

I still like the idea of some of those potential high growth that we saw boom the last few years, like MJ.

Maybe even electric vehicles.

[d2bets]

Yeah, if we cross that line, I'll likely change my strategy and not wait for broader accumulation signs. I'll trade more.

I still like the idea of some of those potential high growth that we saw boom the last few years, like MJ.

Maybe even electric vehicles.

Yeah there's going to be some huge tech winners that provide solutions to "new" problems. Overall, NASDAQ will recover faster than other indices. S&P down 32%, NASDAQ down 28%. The difference should be larger. Many tech companies will profit ultimately.