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  • homie1975
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-24-13
    • 15452

    #3466
    Originally posted by manny24
    Checker you are missing the point

    building money into performing arts sends a clear message that the pandemic really not that serious

    unless hillary clinton's granddaughter's piano recital at the kennedy center will cure folks of covid
    Not true. Both sides always try to add pork. Been going on for years. If one side has the other in a tough spot (dems know the gop needed this for trump reelection desire) so they attached it.

    Pandemic still a huge deal. Huge.
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    • manny24
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-22-07
      • 20046

      #3467
      homie you are alright

      what should we dump our stimulus checks into long term?
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      • homie1975
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-24-13
        • 15452

        #3468
        Probably SPY but I'm thinking more downside exists so I wouldn't go crazy just yet. Plus the stimulus money per person is so small so it's better just to save it for now and spend at local restaurants for takeout to support local businesses.
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        • keely85
          SBR MVP
          • 01-04-15
          • 4296

          #3469
          You degens are actually getting a check? Figured most “stock pros” would be well over the income threshold
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          • homie1975
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-24-13
            • 15452

            #3470
            Originally posted by keely85
            You degens are actually getting a check? Figured most “stock pros” would be well over the income threshold
            not a stock pro by any means but not getting a check because my AGI for 2018 Tax is north of $200K so i get nothing.

            AGI dipped well below that for 2019 Tax and i already filed my return but i think they'll use the 2018 numbers so i get zilch.

            that's okay though, there are so many others who need it more than i do.
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            • milwaukee mike
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-22-07
              • 26914

              #3471
              bookmaker has s&p over 2500 at monday's close +145

              probably worth a shot, almost 2% of wiggle room and a nice + number
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              • milwaukee mike
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 08-22-07
                • 26914

                #3472
                now the dow over 21600 monday close is up to +213

                the way futures bounce around, i think there's probably value on EITHER side at over +200 on any given day
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                • homie1975
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-24-13
                  • 15452

                  #3473
                  Mike
                  Interesting. Keep posting these. Helpful to know what the sports betting market thinks. Sports bettors dying for something to wager on lol.

                  What are the odds on the Nasdaq?
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                  • Emily_Haines
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-14-09
                    • 15917

                    #3474
                    Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                    now the dow over 21600 monday close is up to +213

                    the way futures bounce around, i think there's probably value on EITHER side at over +200 on any given day
                    The government is all out of bullets other than just shutting the whole thing down.
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                    • milwaukee mike
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-22-07
                      • 26914

                      #3475
                      Originally posted by homie1975
                      Mike
                      Interesting. Keep posting these. Helpful to know what the sports betting market thinks. Sports bettors dying for something to wager on lol.

                      What are the odds on the Nasdaq?
                      bookmaker and 5d only have s&p 500/dow

                      i really like it when they throw up individual stock over/unders, those are fun but i think i kicked bookmaker's ass so bad on them they threw in the towel
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                      • homie1975
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-24-13
                        • 15452

                        #3476
                        Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                        The government is all out of bullets other than just shutting the whole thing down.
                        Jerome Powell fed says they have plenty of bullets left.
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                        • Mike Huntertz
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-19-09
                          • 11207

                          #3477
                          Were these available before the sports shut down? Wondering if they are trying anything to get someone to make a wager.
                          I'm interested. lol
                          GL

                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                          bookmaker has s&p over 2500 at monday's close +145

                          probably worth a shot, almost 2% of wiggle room and a nice + number
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                          • ex50warrior
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-10-09
                            • 3819

                            #3478
                            Originally posted by homie1975
                            Jerome Powell fed says they have plenty of bullets left.
                            Yep, they've got bullets left. I just hope they don't have to use them.
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                            • Emily_Haines
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-09
                              • 15917

                              #3479
                              Originally posted by homie1975
                              Jerome Powell fed says they have plenty of bullets left.
                              I guess

                              They can always print endless amounts of cash
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65382

                                #3480
                                From Seeking Alpha:




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                                [TD="class: yiv6971892722center"]Welcome to Wall Street Brunch, our preview of stock market events for investors to watch during the upcoming week. You can also catch this article a day early by subscribing to the Stocks to Watch account for Saturday morning delivery. Podcast listener? Subscribe now to receive Wall Street Breakfast by 8:00 a.m. every trading day on Seeking Alpha, iTunes, Stitcher and Spotify (click the highlighted links).
                                Jobs will be a major focus in the week ahead as the U.S. economy reels from the impact of the pandemic. The ADP employment report and weekly initial jobless claims report are due out before the March jobs report drops on April 4. The March jobs report is expected to only show a loss of about 300K jobs as the real damage doesn't arrive until April and May. Moody's Analytics Chief Economist Mark Zandi forecasts the unemployment rate in the U.S. will hit double digits within a few months on delayed repercussions. PMI prints will also pour out next week from Spain, Germany, the U.K. and U.S. to give a quick snapshot of economic activity. The corporate event and earnings calendars are thin once again next week, but investors should be strapped in for plenty of action as animal spirits rage on.
                                Earnings spotlight: A trio of companies seeing spikes in demand for food products are due to report next week, with egg-producer Cal-Maine Foods (NASDAQ:CALM) on tap for March 30 and pantry loaders Conagra (NYSE:CAG) and McCormick (NYSE:MKC) both reporting on March 31. Other companies due to spill numbers during the week include Lamb Weston (NYSE:LW) on April 1; Walgreens Boots Alliance (NASDAQ:WBA), Chewy (NYSE:CHWY) and CarMax (NYSE:KMX) on April 2, as well as Constellation Brands (NYSE:STZ) on April 3.
                                Go deeper: See Seeking Alpha's complete list of earnings reporters
                                IPO watch: WiMi Hologram Cloud (WIMI) is expected to price its IPO on March 30. IPO lockup periods expire on Viela Bio (NASDAQ:VIE), Aprea Therapeutics (NASDAQ:APRE), Frequency Therapeutics (NASDAQ:FREQ) and MetroCity Bankshares (NASDAQ:OTC:MCBS) on March 31. The analyst quiet period runs out on GFL Environmental (NYSE:GFL) on March 30. Across the Pacific, the IPO lockup period expires on Budweiser Brewing Company (BUDBC) in Hong Kong. Shares of BUDBC are down 22% since the beer company was set free from Anheuser-Busch InBev (NYSE:BUD).

                                Go deeper: Catch up on all the latest IPO news.
                                Projected dividend changes (quarterly): Bank OZK (NASDAQ:OZK) to $0.27 from $0.26, Constellation Brands to $0.76 from $0.75, SM Energy (NYSE:SM) to $0.01 from $0.05, and Dollarama (OTCLMAF) to C$0.050 from C$0.044.
                                Go deeper: Read the latest dividend analysis.
                                M&A tidbits: Shareholders with the Rubicon Project (NYSE:RUBI) vote on the company's merger with Telaria (NYSE:TLRA) on March 30. The walk data on China Oceanwide's acquisition of Genworth Financial (NYSE:GNW) is March 31. The tender off expires on the Super ROI Global-Jumei International (NYSE:JMEI) deal on April 1.
                                Analyst/investor meetings: Pfizer (NYSE:PFE) rescheduled its investor day update that was planned for March 31 without setting a new date. Bristol-Myers Squibb (NYSE:BMY) also pulled the plug on its event, while GoDaddy (NYSE:GDDY) is going to an online format with its presentation set for April 2. Enterprise Products Partners (NYSE:EPD) and The Andersons (NASDAQ:ANDE) also have events scheduled.
                                Apple's non-event: While Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) made a surprise announcement already of new versions of iPad Pro, Mac Mini and MacBook Air devices with its March 31 keynote event canceled, the company stopped short of announcing a launch of the new lower-cost iPhone 9. Some reports indicate that Apple has held internal discussions about potentially delaying the launch by months due to supply chain issues arising from the pandemic. There is also some talk that Apple will push back the debut of the highly-anticipated Apple 12 5G smartphone from the traditional September window. "We believe the chances for a launch in the September/October time frame is "extremely unlikely" and would assign a 10%-15% probability it happens given the lingering supply chain issues that remain across Asia," warns Wedbush Securities analyst Dan Ives. The firm is still bullish on Apple for the long term due in part to the 5G super cycle.
                                IT disruption: The tech sector has been disrupted by the pandemic, not just with share price declines, but an upheaval of IT demand changes that could be a game changer. Taking the long view, JPMorgan sees an acceleration in certain slow-moving IT infrastructure trends driven by the broadening disruption of COVID-19. In particular, the firm notes increasing bandwidth requirements due to the increasing number of employees working from home in a trend that looks positive for Ciena (NYSE:CIEN), CommScope (NASDAQ:COMM), Infinera (NASDAQ:INFN) and Hewlett-Packard Enterprises' (NYSE:HPE) Aruba. An increase in leverage of the public cloud is seen setting up Arista Networks (NYSE:ANET) and NICE Ltd. (NASDAQ:NICE), while the increase in migration from proprietary hardware solutions to virtual solutions is seen as a win for VMware (NYSE:VMW). Then there is the sudden growth of contactless transactions, led by the adoption of electronic wallets to reduce human-to-human interaction. That development looks good for Diebold Nixdorf (NYSE:OTCPKBD) and NCR (NYSE:NCR). With everyone burning up their laptops for the next few weeks or longer, JP sees an upgrade cycle benefit for HP (NYSE:HPQ), Dell Technologies (NYSE:DELL) and Logitech (NASDAQ:LOGI). In semiconductors, the firm taps Broadcom (NASDAQ:AVGO), Intel (NASDAQ:INTC), Micron Technology (NASDAQ:MU), Marvell Technology (NASDAQ:MRVL), Qorvo (NASDAQ:QRVO), Inphi (NYSE:IPHI) and Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) as attractive amid the anticipated strong growth in cloud and hyperscale datacenter spending.

                                Spotlight on Nielsen numbers: While Nielsen data is pushed out every few weeks for analysts to size up, the firm's release next week of 4-week trends will be a showstopper. The huge efforts of U.S. consumers to stockpile a variety of different household and pantry products should be on full display when the report drops. Companies that are expected to see some strong numbers include Coca-Cola, Keurig Dr Pepper (NYSE:KDP), Monster Beverage (NASDAQ:MNST), Clorox (NYSE:CLX), Procter & Gamble (NYSE:PG), Kimberly-Clark (NYSE:KMB), Church & Dwight (NYSE:CHD) and Edgewell Personal Care (NYSE:EPC). Cowen thinks pantry loading by consumers in March also included the beer and other alcohol categories. That prediction could be confirmed in the Nielsen data for Constellation Brands, Molson Coors (NYSE:TAP), Craft Brew Alliance (NASDAQ:BREW), Anheuser-Busch InBev and Brown-Forman (NYSE:BF.A) (NYSE:BF.B).
                                Macau: Macau authorities will post gross gaming revenue numbers for March sometime during the first few days of April. Analysts see March GGR falling by as much as 75% compared to a year ago as tourism remains at a standstill in the gambling mecca. An initial bounce in Macau traffic to 10K visitors a day fell back to 7K visitors by the third week of the month as global headlines worsened. Before the coronavirus outbreak, weekly tourist visits of +100K were the norm. Names to watch for another round of volatility include Wynn Macau (OTCPK:WYNMF), Wynn Resorts (NASDAQ:WYNN), Sands China (OTCPK:SCHYY), Las Vegas Sands (NYSE:LVS), MGM China (OTCPK:MCHVF), MGM Resorts (NYSE:MGM), Galaxy Entertainment (OTCPK:GXYEF), SJM Holdings (OTCPK:SJMHF), Melco Resorts & Entertainment (NASDAQ:MLCO) and Studio City International (NYSE:MSC).
                                U.S. auto sales: Edmunds forecasts U.S. auto sales will fall 35.5% Y/Y in March to 1,044,805 new cars and trucks amid the coronavirus pandemic. "The first two months of the year started off at a healthy sales pace, but the market took a dramatic turn in mid-March as more cities and states began to implement stay-at-home policies due to the coronavirus crisis, and consumers understandably shifted their focus to other things," notes Edmunds director Jessica Caldwell. "Automakers can count on capturing some deferred demand once we get past the worst of this pandemic, but since they'll be competing with so many other companies for consumer spending at that point, they're really going to need to create incentives to spur some sales," she predicts. TrueCar sees a 42% drop to below 1M units for the month. Meanwhile, J.D. Power thinks the pandemic and economic crisis are likely to accelerate the move to online sales by auto dealerships. Edmunds March forecast by manufacturer - General Motors (NYSE:GM) -31.3% to 186K units, Ford (NYSE:F) -31.0% to 160K, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles (NYSE:FCAU) -28.1% to 144K, Toyota (NYSE:TM) -36.2% to 137K, Honda (NYSE:HMC) -41.8% to 86K, Nissan (OTCPK:NSANY) -46% to 82K, Hyundai/Kia (OTCPK:HYMLF) -31.4% to 81K, Volkswagen/Audi (OTCPK:VWAGY) -41.4% to 34K. TrueCar's March estimate for Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) is -23.5% to 9,939.

                                New video conferencing player in town: RingCentral (NYSE:RNG) is expected to launch a video product to compete with Zoom Video Communications (NASDAQ:ZM) next week. "In the very near term, RCMeeting will not only begin to be sold in RingCentral Office bundles across most U.S. segments, but it will also begin to replace the installed base of ZM at RNG customers," previews Rosenblatt Securities. Shares of RingCentral are up 30% over the last week, while Zoom Video is up 45% over the last four weeks.
                                Retail check: Retail chains that are seeing high demand for the early part of the stay-at-home spring in the U.S. are likely to continue to outperform next week and beyond, reasons Odeon Capital. The list of chains with positive sales trends includes Target (NYSE:TGT), Walmart (NYSE:WMT), Costco (NASDAQ:COST), BJ's Wholesale Club (NYSE:[URL="https://email.seekingalpha.com/symbol/BJ/track?type=click&mailingid=20200329&mess ageid=wall_street_breakfast&databaseid=& serial=wall_street_breakfastO20200329.d5 ff4fe6f7fbf8c4a
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                                • Mike Huntertz
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-19-09
                                  • 11207

                                  #3481
                                  Dow futures show down 1%, but as you said...it bounces like crazy. With Trumps last speech I lean down?
                                  Not my field, I'll leave it you guyz. What ya think?

                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                  now the dow over 21600 monday close is up to +213

                                  the way futures bounce around, i think there's probably value on EITHER side at over +200 on any given day
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                                  • MinnesotaFats
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-18-10
                                    • 14758

                                    #3482
                                    Don't be shocked if both FL and GA go on 14 to 30 day shelter in place Monday.

                                    Many counties already are in each state.

                                    Market going below 18k this week
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                                    • homie1975
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-24-13
                                      • 15452

                                      #3483
                                      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                      Don't be shocked if both FL and GA go on 14 to 30 day shelter in place Monday.

                                      Many counties already are in each state.

                                      Market going below 18k this week
                                      I'm not picking on anyone just pointing out facts. Red states are intentionally being very slow to "shelter in place" and this will cost them dearly within three weeks or a month
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                                      • d2bets
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 39994

                                        #3484
                                        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                        Don't be shocked if both FL and GA go on 14 to 30 day shelter in place Monday.

                                        Many counties already are in each state.

                                        Market going below 18k this week
                                        17% drop this week?
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                                        • Enkhbat
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-18-11
                                          • 3145

                                          #3485
                                          It is funny that I see last digit of AMZN closing price is odd/even bet.
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                                          • MinnesotaFats
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-18-10
                                            • 14758

                                            #3486
                                            Originally posted by d2bets
                                            17% drop this week?
                                            Where's the positive headline this week?

                                            Unless they find a cure, the stimulus passed...that's the only money going into this economy for the next month plus.

                                            You're looking at 30+ straight days of negative news cycles and lowered expectations for business.
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                                            • HockeyRocks
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-10-13
                                              • 6069

                                              #3487
                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                              I'm not picking on anyone just pointing out facts. Red states are intentionally being very slow to "shelter in place" and this will cost them dearly within three weeks or a month
                                              Lets tell it the way it is. Many Red State Governors still think the Coronavirus is a "Hoax."
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                                              • MinnesotaFats
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-18-10
                                                • 14758

                                                #3488
                                                Red states dont have the large urban populations using mass transit in the numbers they do on the coasts nor do they have airline hubs for international travel....

                                                That's why reds aren't locking down within
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                                                • homie1975
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 12-24-13
                                                  • 15452

                                                  #3489
                                                  Originally posted by d2bets
                                                  17% drop this week?
                                                  or maybe not. maybe we hit a bottom last Monday and there will be no re-test. it is so hard to tell. "experts" all over CNBC thinking and saying different things LOL

                                                  need to trust one's own gut
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                                                  • homie1975
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-24-13
                                                    • 15452

                                                    #3490
                                                    Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                    Red states dont have the large urban populations using mass transit in the numbers they do on the coasts nor do they have airline hubs for international travel....

                                                    That's why reds aren't locking down within
                                                    but like you said now GA and FL might not have a choice but to lock down
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                                                    • MinnesotaFats
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-18-10
                                                      • 14758

                                                      #3491
                                                      You're right thousands flying here from tri state and NOLA
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                                                      • homie1975
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-24-13
                                                        • 15452

                                                        #3492
                                                        Minny
                                                        You really believe a retest is coming? we are now poised for the 4th green day in the last 5 sessions.....
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                                                        • d2bets
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 08-10-05
                                                          • 39994

                                                          #3493
                                                          Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                                                          Where's the positive headline this week?

                                                          Unless they find a cure, the stimulus passed...that's the only money going into this economy for the next month plus.

                                                          You're looking at 30+ straight days of negative news cycles and lowered expectations for business.
                                                          I could counter with what's the negative headlines this week? We already know we're shutdown for April and we know there will be a lot of cases and deaths. Why would that not already be factored in? Something is keeping this market afloat. Maybe it's the Fed. Then again I can see though that there could be another big fall and nobody can then say they didn't have a chance to get out of the way or rebalance. This whole thing is just very hard to figure. I kinda do agree though that we may be getting to a point where reducing risk makes sense. I mean what is the floor and ceiling for the month of April? About 2,600 right now. For example, how in gods name could we possibly see 3,000 on the S&P this month. Unless we suddenly find some miracle cure. But like you say, we certainly could go back to retest 2,200. Very tough to figure.

                                                          Tomorrow is end of 1st quarter. Could that wake people up when they see statements to tell their 401k admin to sell?
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65382

                                                            #3494
                                                            Dow up over 2 percent so far today.
                                                            Ditto for the S&P

                                                            Go figure, the sky isn't falling
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                                                            • homie1975
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-24-13
                                                              • 15452

                                                              #3495
                                                              Originally posted by stevenash
                                                              Dow up over 2 percent so far today.
                                                              Ditto for the S&P

                                                              Go figure, the sky isn't falling
                                                              as one of our Resident Experts GuitarJosh pointed out a few weeks ago, it is not uncommon at all (and I backtested it and it is actually common!) for Bear Markets to go on sharp rallies before retesting lows.

                                                              if you want to be fooled by it and start buying into it, by all means go ahead. don't be surprised when weak hands who could not get out in time on the last drop, decided to sell off after the market surges up about 5-7% higher from this point.
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65382

                                                                #3496
                                                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                as one of our Resident Experts GuitarJosh pointed out a few weeks ago, it is not uncommon at all (and I backtested it and it is actually common!) for Bear Markets to go on sharp rallies before retesting lows.

                                                                if you want to be fooled by it and start buying into it, by all means go ahead. don't be surprised when weak hands who could not get out in time on the last drop, decided to sell off after the market surges up about 5-7% higher from this point.
                                                                Nope.
                                                                I'm still shorting.
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                                                                • homie1975
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-24-13
                                                                  • 15452

                                                                  #3497
                                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                  Nope.
                                                                  I'm still shorting.
                                                                  ok so the sky is still falling a little in your estimation LOL
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                                                                  • homie1975
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-24-13
                                                                    • 15452

                                                                    #3498
                                                                    appears that most of this rally might be due to 850B rebalance and we might see a different tune beginning 4/1, let's see
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65382

                                                                      #3499
                                                                      Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                      ok so the sky is still falling a little in your estimation LOL
                                                                      It'll drop off some.
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                                                                      • milwaukee mike
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                                        • 26914

                                                                        #3500
                                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                        now the dow over 21600 monday close is up to +213

                                                                        the way futures bounce around, i think there's probably value on EITHER side at over +200 on any given day
                                                                        hopefully someone tailed
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