'Your guy won'
nothing changes
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read my post again...pinny line up around a dime...considering the drastic line drop after the 1st debate, you guys screaming a "Big" win are simply wrong...you did well to gain a few pennies and not give up more ground...in other words, nothing to see here, move along.Comment -
I also thought it was shitty of Joe to try and link troops with the 47% comment. There is a big difference between troops fighting overseas and not getting taxed because of it and someone like the "Obama Phone" lady.Comment -
yeb, people are biased. which is why i keep saying, debates only matter in the fact of how they impact the undecided voters.
there has been many studies on debates, presidental and vice, and they have slim impact. they get over anylized by political junkies, but i guarantee you the undecided voters, a majority of them were not watching this debate, they were not watching the last one, and they will not watch the next one.
they will make up their mind in the last week of the election.
it comes to around 10 percent of people who vote.Comment -
Biden is a goofball.Comment -
exactly what romney did????????
lmao proof that you're losers
do you guys even listen or watch?
romney won because of the issues, not because he was interupting and being an idiotComment -
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i see his point, the average person works hard at his job each day. of course there are going to be people that are going to abuse a system that is designed to help the poor and sick. but people on foostamps, don't want to be, people on ssi don't want to be, people receiving welfare don't want to be. they do it to stay alive, and for their family and children. this picture of a welfare queen the far right wants to paint is such bull shit.
and i am getting sick and tired of these republicans and their dumbass pledge to never raise a tax, but they want to cut the deficit, on cutting rich peoples' taxes. that to me shows, they don't give a penetrate about the deficit, they care about the big corps in this country.
the bush tax cuts should expire, the dividend rate in this country is so low, its at 5 percent or 15 percent. which is why the super rich almost pay no taxes at all. because they invest where they won't be taxed, and live off the interest earned. in the clinton years, when we had a big boom, it was in the mid 20's.
that is just one slim part of the bush tax cuts. but they won't be expired, the lame duck congress. (because nothing will get done before the election, anther sad part of our ****** up system, of taking two years to elected a president) will have to come back and vote.
i really think we should have 6 year terms as President And set a time period on when, the election should start for the nominees, and when it should start the actual head to head race. It starts earlier and earlier every election cycle, its getting crazy. But america, never changes anything. We will never adapt that ghey European metric system. People in power, esp. on the right but some on the left think america's founders had everything exactly right. which couldn't be more far from the truth.,Comment -
Wonder what the MSM would be saying if a rich white republican man laughed while those hard issues were being discussed ?Comment -
What a loser
In the Vice Presidential debates on Thursday, GOP candidate Paul Ryan accused the Obama administration of supporting deep cuts to defense budgets, a fiction that is embarrassing for a congressman who in fact voted for the cuts he criticizes the administration for backing.
Defense budgets have grown exorbitantly in the decade since the attacks of September 11, 2001. Money spent on the military and national security has increased every year since then, and the Obama administration has been fighting tooth and nail certain sequestration cuts that merely slow the rate of growth in defense spending.
Ryan found himself in the awkward position of criticizing those sequestration cuts to defense which are automatic cuts that are supposed to take place if the Congress doesn’t pass a debt reduction bill.
“Now we have another $500 billion cut to defense that’s lurking on the horizon,” Ryan said, complaining about the sequestration cuts he himself helped implement into legislation.
Martha Radditz, who moderated the debate, asked then Ryan how a Romney administration would manage to keep taxes at current marginal rates and not increase the deficit while proposing $2 trillion in increases to defense spending over ten years.
Ryan dodged, switching back to sequestration cuts. “If these cuts go through, our Navy will be the smallest it has been since before World War I,” he said. “This invites weakness.”
Biden defended the puny cuts in defense that may be imposed in the coming months, saying the military agrees budgets should be slimmed. “Look, the military says we need a smaller, leaner Army,” Biden said. “We don’t need more M1 tanks, what we need is more UAVs,” he added, referring to drones which illegally bomb people in secret, undeclared wars in territories that are not war zones.
In truth, the two candidates were debating within a very small spectrum. Both agree that the US should be spending more than a half a trillion dollars a year on defense – more than the rest of the world combined – and that our military should be big enough to span the entire globe in bases, wars, and US-armed client states.Comment -
Neverstopper do you think the government is lean and there is very little fraud or over spending? We need to cut the wasteful spending first. Right now all raising taxes will do is get thrown in the pile and mis spent like all the other tax dollars.
I've been a businessman most of my adult life you keep throwing regulation and taxes on me it keeps me from succeeding and it keeps me from hiring more people. I may be one of those evil rich guys to Obama but in reality I'm a small business that makes sure other peopel can pay their bills.Comment -
Drink , since when is a question 'evidence'
Of course the GOP ad is an attempt to slam VP Biden. If it gets any air time the people who are hurting aint going to like itComment -
I am so disappointed this never happened.
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you think the MSM would use "out of touch" - I doComment -
how about i name 5 issues and u pay me 200 pts for each one??
do u accept or decline??????????????????
ifu don't send the pts u leave sbr after i post the reasons ???
deal
if i am wrong, i leave sbr forever?
deal???Comment -
Mitt Romney Central
Never before in modern history have we seen such disrespectful, irresponsible, and immature behavior in a Vice Presidential Debate.
Watch Joe Biden laugh at serious issues here:http://bit.ly/BidenLaughing
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Biden's LOL & giggling all through the debate will be the 'attack' the GOP will spin
does it have legs ? Will take one of the Big 3 , NBC , CBS or ABC , to jump on boardComment -
TT - you realize that you're exactly the type Romney considers to be worthless?Comment -
TT is at the head of the 47% list
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That shit funny yo.
Eddie Munster was one funny motherfukker.
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CNBC VP DEBATE POLL UPDATE: Biden 53% Eddie Munster 44%
LMAO! Even Obama bashing CNBC site said Biden won !
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49327648
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Watching Biden laugh like a fukkin prikk.......over and over and over and over and over.........with that shitty fukkin grin had me wishing I could punch him straight in the mouth. Guy came off like a real dbag.Mitt Romney Central
Never before in modern history have we seen such disrespectful, irresponsible, and immature behavior in a Vice Presidential Debate.
Watch Joe Biden laugh at serious issues here:http://bit.ly/BidenLaughing
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I don't betray people as evil, or people as welfare queens.
of course there is waste in the government, i said there was.
but we also wasted billions on unneeded wars, and we are still wasting billions on defense spending.
also, taxes on small businessmen right now are some of the lowest they have been in our history.
and, come on dj. Triggle down economics is bullshit. Giving MORE tax breaks to the rich, on top of the bush tax cuts is not going to solve anything. There has not been one economic study proving triggle down economics, there actually has been more studies down disproving its efficiency.
and yes regulations take time and money that you could other wise use else where, but they are a necessary part.
banks ran away with america, started 20 years ago, but really spiked when bush deregulated everything. Banks/finicial insitutions/ were making billions off the american citizens on really unethical, and in some cases illegal things. But at the same time, had so much control of the american economy in their hands they knew they would get govt. aide in a crises.
So as much as I hate, that we had to do a bank bail out we had to do it, unless we would still be in a depression right now. Now of course the banks wasted a-lot of that money, gave them selves raises, ect.ect. through huge parties. But it was a necessary evil.
We never had a true jobs bill in america, that would in effect be 'shovel ready' remember that term? Most of the stimuilus money that was sent over to the states, were used on keeping jobs, not hiring new jobs. they were keeping ones should teachers, governemnt officals, ect. wouldn't be fired.
There was never a jobs bill, passed because the republicans would never go for it. Republicans didn't have control of both houses, you need 60 votes in the senate and with brown re-elected that would never of gone through.
But then they bitch about an XL pipeline, that obama denied because they rush it through. Some local government had not even passed it yet and some didn't want it.
They also rejected the whole idea of high speed rail. Wisconsin gov. walker denied it. It would of gone from chicago to milwaukee.
I know for a fact, it would of been used a ton at least in my city of wisconsin. the majority of people work in IL, a quarter work in chicago. There is a train that goes down there now, but obviously this would be faster, would have better times, and different stops. I just couldn't understand why a gov. of a state would deny something like that, that would add so much to a states public transportation. Not to mention creating thousands of jobs in wisconsin, for a short period of time at least.
I don't like to demionize people, and I am not as far left as I may come off. I have voted for republicans in the past, i did for Walker. I do like what he did within the state of curving the powers of unions,m and making them pay for some of their pension and healthcare. (they still get GREAT benefits)
But as far as national politics issues such as DOMA, DADT, health care reform, Medicaid, S.C are way more important to me, and I can never see myself voting for a republican ever again really. They have moved so far to the right its unbelievable to me. Not to mention having a candiate like Romney, who has no convictions. The guy will change his opinion, on what other people want. He is a puppet. Plain and simple, and i don't want a corporate puppet in the white house.Comment -
Biden ....tax the rich. Yawn. Ya that will solve it all. Ryan is right when he says the only way out of it is jobs not food stamps. Furthermore, he was only right at pointing out that Romney worked with the 87% if the democrats when he was in Massachusetts. Obama cannot even put in a budget. Forward? LOL.Comment -
can we please, stop doing this dumbass split screen. it really is annoying to me. just do a wide shot. simple.
also snl always does good work during the political season. Probably will have Biden laughing, and spanking Ryan over his knee while Ryan drinks a gallon of water while sweating like a pig going to slaughterComment -
Low level SBR earners riding Bidens rooster. Interesting.Comment
