The 2012 NFL with John Ryan

[PlatinumBerg]

This is because the books already knew this. I see sports investing to be very similar to stock / options investing.

In stocks, there is something called insider trading, which means people make trades based on privileged information that the public does not know. However, because equities are regulated by the SEC this is illegal, but I'm pretty sure it still happens. Anyways, before I get too far off track, the point is that the books have access to said privileged information.

They announce Forte is starting and the line doesnt ove at all anywhere. Strange.

[PlatinumBerg]

Since I feel especially generous with giving out free information today, I will also tell you that the lines are ESPECIALLY sharp on MNF and TNF games because there is only one game. Remember that the goal of the books is to create equal action on both sides so they can make money on the juice. Having said that, teasers are especially profitable on MNF and TNF games.

[John Ryan]

This is because the books already knew this. I see sports investing to be very similar to stock / options investing.

In stocks, there is something called insider trading, which means people make trades based on privileged information that the public does not know. However, because equities are regulated by the SEC this is illegal, but I'm pretty sure it still happens. Anyways, before I get too far off track, the point is that the books have access to said privileged information.

I don't agree at all. Sharp lines have nothing to do with inside information up rather an equilibrium of public sentiment and opinion. It is exactly why the line does not move when Forte is announced. The books are square and do want to risk a push simply by moving the line. Instead they'll adjust the juice. I worked on Wall Street and there is a trading methodology I still use today. Buy the rumor sell the fact. Check the recent price action of apple before and after the official announcement ofvthe iPhone 5.

[5mike5]

thanks for the *20 star pick john...

using as last-leg of a big 3slot parlay!!!

[PlatinumBerg]

John,

I agree with your statement about lines having to do with public sentiment and opinions, as matter of fact the markets today move on public sentiment more than anything. However, since you worked on Wall Street, then you should know that insider information and trading does exist, and people with access to that privileged information have the potential to make A LOT of money.

The price of AAPL was the result of movement on news. News that AAPL insiders would of known before announcing it to the public. Had someone known the information before it was announced, they would of made A LOT of money.

I don't agree at all. Sharp lines have nothing to do with inside information up rather an equilibrium of public sentiment and opinion. It is exactly why the line does not move when Forte is announced. The books are square and do want to risk a push simply by moving the line. Instead they'll adjust the juice. I worked on Wall Street and there is a trading methodology I still use today. Buy the rumor sell the fact. Check the recent price action of apple before and after the official announcement ofvthe iPhone 5.

[PlatinumBerg]

John,

Since you said you worked on work street, may I ask what methodology you use to trade today? If you do not want to post this information publicly, please feel free to send me a PM. Are you a intra-day trader? Do you use technical analysis? If yes, what indicators do you use and rely on the most? RSI? MACD?

[shaunT]

Hi John, I just started to read your articles and follow your picks. I was hoping you can help me understand something though.

I noticed that you will write things like this is 7* play or 10* titan play or 15* monster or 20* play.

What does that mean? What is a titan play? What is a monster? Can you explain what you mean by that?

Thanks.

[Realist888]

Hey john im mitch you are very shrewd with your picks; therefore, you must have good knowledge on the current economic crisis since u invest whats ur view on precious metals?

[John Ryan]

Hey john im mitch you are very shrewd with your picks; therefore, you must have good knowledge on the current economic crisis since u invest whats ur view on precious metals?

I trade currencies and futures. I have stayed away from gold and silver only because of the hype I see in false advertising commercials for gold coins etc. I believe we are making a major cyclical top, but not enough evidence to sort it yet. I play AAPL almost daily with the weekly expiration cycle of options. I love volatility and AAPL and GOOG provide that more than enough.

[John Ryan]

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I trade currencies and futures. I have stayed away from gold and silver only because of the hype I see in false advertising commercials for gold coins etc. I believe we are making a major cyclical top, but not enough evidence to sort it yet. I play AAPL almost daily with the weekly expiration cycle of options. I love volatility and AAPL and GOOG provide that more than enough. <br>

[John Ryan]

I apologize for the horrendous 20* and 10* plays last night. I appreciate the messages sent saying that you can't predict the unreal turnovers and misplays by the Cowboys. It still does not explain how they had at least 6 blown defensive coverages and how they simply could not catch the ball and when wide open Romo was throwing in panic for no reason. I blew the call on Dallas..


still we are 3-1 ATS with 20* plays and went 1-2 ATS with 10* plays. A loss for Week 4, but up for the season. I normally have a huge week after losses like this so stick around.

Let me know too what you all are seeing, thinking, reading, out there. It only makes us better as information is the most powerful of commodities.

[John Ryan]

After a loss like that one, I always go back to my favorite Abraham Lincoln quote. When asked to cut down an oak tree in 6 hours he said he would spend the first four hours sharpening the axe.

[DonQ]

Tough break on the under... even thru loss it made for interesting football

[shaunT]

Hi John,

I'm Shaun and I'm new to this forum. I tried posting a question to you before but not sure if you saw it earlier. I just started to read your articles and follow your picks. I was hoping you can help me understand something though.

I noticed that you will write things like this is 7* play or 10* titan play or 15* monster or 20* play.

What does that mean? What is a titan play? What is a monster? Can you explain what you mean by that?

Thanks.

[DonQ]

I got u Shaun. Here's my interpretation.

5* is standard play (one unit)
10* is a stronger play (two units)
20* is a very strong play (four units)

[shaunT]

Thanks Don, I appreciate the help.

I'm a total newbie to sports betting and I just started following this forum. It's nice to get some type of response to a question that is a legitimate question and that I posted 2-3 times yet John ignored it each time and instead answers every question after me about trading stocks and commodities etc. I guess a question that is a fundamental question which directly pertains to this forum and to John isn't worth answering for him. To ignore a basic question like that is very unprofessional and bad business. Period.

I got u Shaun. Here's my interpretation.

5* is standard play (one unit)
10* is a stronger play (two units)
20* is a very strong play (four units)

[heatbig3]

OK. I am upgrading the Dallas side selection to a 20* graded play. -3 -110

The running game is vastly better than what has been on display in recent games. Romo then has play action to some serious offensive weapons.

10* UNDER 41 1/2 -110

Great one John Ryan!!! lol You got all the CS good, did you mean to bets the opposite??? lol horrible how can anyone take Cowgirls last night???? The bears have better defense and offensive line. and the under bet was another sucker... #Justsaying hahahahahah

[heatbig3]

OK. I am upgrading the Dallas side selection to a 20* graded play. -3 -110

The running game is vastly better than what has been on display in recent games. Romo then has play action to some serious offensive weapons.

10* UNDER 41 1/2 -110


Great donkey call JR on cowgirls and under lol how the heck can you take cowgirls when the bears are hot and got great D??? now apologize to the donkey follower u have.. hahaha

[heatbig3]

I kid JR man cant believe all those TOs man whats going on with Romo and Dallas, game was way under if not for all those turns over.. JR i apologize for acting irrational i actually lost big on last night game... we need ya help tho to get back some!!!

[John Ryan]

I kid JR man cant believe all those TOs man whats going on with Romo and Dallas, game was way under if not for all those turns over.. JR i apologize for acting irrational i actually lost big on last night game... we need ya help tho to get back some!!!

hey, no worries, it was an ugly loss, but counts only as one loss thank goodness.

Bet the same amount each play per * unit I release. Don't bet over that anmd never beyond your means. ok?

[John Ryan]

10* Boston - if they play.. weather pattern is moving NE and should be out of the NYC area by 7:00..

[Realist888]

Hey john i have been watching the rams cardinals spread and is for now at a pick em you have any early feelings i think the rams may be a strong play

[heatbig3]

Good call on Bos JR, too bad i was late on it.

[DonQ]

Thanks Don, I appreciate the help.

I'm a total newbie to sports betting and I just started following this forum. It's nice to get some type of response to a question that is a legitimate question and that I posted 2-3 times yet John ignored it each time and instead answers every question after me about trading stocks and commodities etc. I guess a question that is a fundamental question which directly pertains to this forum and to John isn't worth answering for him. To ignore a basic question like that is very unprofessional and bad business. Period.

No doubt bro. John isn't ignoring you, he's hoping one of us answers. Follow this thread, John is the more professional and disciplined handicappers. GL!!!

[DonQ]

And it's Don Q... like the rum... from Puerto Rico!

[Realist888]

Hey John I work early today and need to place my pick I read your sbr article but in that article you did release what the strength of the play was 5* 10* 20* can u release it thanks John?

[John Ryan]

I have a 10* on Arizona per the article released and posted on the SBR site.

10* Arizona - 2 1/2 -110

[PlatinumBerg]

Going to have to fade here John, I like the Rams at home.

[suicidekings]

I have a 10* on Arizona per the article released and posted on the SBR site.

10* Arizona - 2 1/2 -110

The line is -1 or -1.5 virtually everywhere. Why are you playing -2.5?

[dolphins]

He was logged on at 3:28

[suicidekings]

He was logged on at 3:28

What's your point? -2.5 is playing the worst possible line available for this game, regardless of the time the wager was placed/reported.

[rainman416]

I gotta feel the fade on this, if JR is right, it will be the first time in about 6 picks... Due I'd say.. so I think I may just stay away from this one... gonna be a tight match-up..

[heatbig3]

good fade
PlatinumBerg man i had stl but followed JR on ari.. FMLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[Realist888]

Hey John would you consider te bears plus 6 as a 20* or 30*?

[Realist888]

Hey John would you consider te bears plus 6 as a 20* or 30*? Jags plus 6 I mean